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    Refinancing vs loan modification

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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2012 - 4:32 PM ET #1

    I called the bank today to talk about refinancing my mortgage. Currently have a 30 year loan at 5.25%. I wanted to refinance to a 10 or 15 year loan so i could pay it off quicker. The loan officer said i would be better off doing a loan modification to 15 years/ 3.375%. The loan modification would cost half the price of a refinance. Just wanted to hear some thoughts on this. To be honest i didnt even think a loan modification would be an option. I searched the internet on loan modifications and it looks as if the main purpose of a modification is if a borrower is struggling to pay bills. In my case i am just looking to pay this house off asap. My monthly bill would only be $27 more than what i pay now if i did a modification. Any info on this topic would be appreciated.

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    I called the bank today to talk about refinancing my mortgage. Currently have a 30 year loan at 5.25%. I wanted to refinance to a 10 or 15 year loan so i could pay it off quicker. The loan officer said i would be better off doing a loan modification to 15 years/ 3.375%. The loan modification would cost half the price of a refinance. Just wanted to hear some thoughts on this. To be honest i didnt even think a loan modification would be an option. I searched the internet on loan modifications and it looks as if the main purpose of a modification is if a borrower is struggling to pay bills. In my case i am just looking to pay this house off asap. My monthly bill would only be $27 more than what i pay now if i did a modification. Any info on this topic would be appreciated.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2012 - 6:15 PM ET #2

    Get their literature and make sure you know what the loan mod is and how it could effect your credit.


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    Get their literature and make sure you know what the loan mod is and how it could effect your credit.


     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2012 - 6:23 PM ET #3

    Thanks wallstreet. They are going to mail me the literature so i will be sure to read it over thoroughly.
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    Thanks wallstreet. They are going to mail me the literature so i will be sure to read it over thoroughly.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2012 - 7:41 PM ET #4

    You might also call a loan BROKER and poke around about the subject..notice I said broker. Not a lender..someone who can deal with any product on the market and is only motivated to get you a loan, not that they work for a bank or lender directly.
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    You might also call a loan BROKER and poke around about the subject..notice I said broker. Not a lender..someone who can deal with any product on the market and is only motivated to get you a loan, not that they work for a bank or lender directly.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2012 - 1:09 PM ET #5

    I'm a broker in CA and I would definitely ask more questions. Do you have at least 20% equity in your home? Does Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac own the loan?

    google fannie or freddie mac look up tool and that will answer your question. Also, the Harp2 is out and this for homeowner's underwater in their homes but are still current with their payments. The key is if Fannie or Freddie own your laon and if has to be purchased by them by June 2009.

    I hope this helps

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    I'm a broker in CA and I would definitely ask more questions. Do you have at least 20% equity in your home? Does Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac own the loan?

    google fannie or freddie mac look up tool and that will answer your question. Also, the Harp2 is out and this for homeowner's underwater in their homes but are still current with their payments. The key is if Fannie or Freddie own your laon and if has to be purchased by them by June 2009.

    I hope this helps

     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2012 - 1:50 PM ET #6

    In the case of it being owned by Fannie or Freddie only, is the servicing firm the same?

    Meaning can Fannie own it and Citi service it?
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    In the case of it being owned by Fannie or Freddie only, is the servicing firm the same?

    Meaning can Fannie own it and Citi service it?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2012 - 4:59 PM ET #7

    correct wells, citi anyone can service but as long as fannie or freddie own it before June 2009 you are in good shape. For instance Wells has a program if it's Wells to Wells and you meet the criteria no appraisal required. It's the new HARP 2.0. The first Harp program didn't help enough people.

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    correct wells, citi anyone can service but as long as fannie or freddie own it before June 2009 you are in good shape. For instance Wells has a program if it's Wells to Wells and you meet the criteria no appraisal required. It's the new HARP 2.0. The first Harp program didn't help enough people.

    Does Fannie Mae Own Your Mortgage? Loan Lookup Tool

     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2012 - 5:32 PM ET #8

    I've got some friends who got screwed during the peak and have paid their loan without missing but are underwater by a large ammt.

    I'll have to forward that link to them and see if they can get help.
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    I've got some friends who got screwed during the peak and have paid their loan without missing but are underwater by a large ammt.

    I'll have to forward that link to them and see if they can get help.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2012 - 10:08 PM ET #9

    Loan Look-up - Freddie Mac

    here is the freddie look up in case fannie doesn't own it.

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    Loan Look-up - Freddie Mac

    here is the freddie look up in case fannie doesn't own it.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2012 - 10:09 PM ET #10

    freddie is priced slightly higher than the fannie but it's still a great deal
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    freddie is priced slightly higher than the fannie but it's still a great deal
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2012 - 12:19 AM ET #11

    I was poking around since I know my friends arent as astute to such things and it looks like if you are not observing you could really get hosed with this HARP refi..rates are bad, fees are high especially if you go through the bank in question who is servicing the loan.

    Leave it to these slimy banks to stiff you yet again when the opportunity arises.


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    I was poking around since I know my friends arent as astute to such things and it looks like if you are not observing you could really get hosed with this HARP refi..rates are bad, fees are high especially if you go through the bank in question who is servicing the loan.

    Leave it to these slimy banks to stiff you yet again when the opportunity arises.


     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2012 - 5:19 PM ET #12

    Rates have tanked the last 7-10 days but give me a scenario and I can give you a general idea of the rate.

    loan amount

    est value

    credit score

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    Rates have tanked the last 7-10 days but give me a scenario and I can give you a general idea of the rate.

    loan amount

    est value

    credit score

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2012 - 6:53 PM ET #13

    I am guessing because I could be wrong..

    Loan= 300k
    Est value= 150k
    Credit= 700+

    Guessing on the loan value though..
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    I am guessing because I could be wrong..

    Loan= 300k
    Est value= 150k
    Credit= 700+

    Guessing on the loan value though..
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2012 - 6:55 PM ET #14

    If I have a mortgage through Bank of America, I'm I still eligible for the Harp? Also, would BOA do a "loan modification" in order to keep my business instead of seeing me reffinance with another company?

     

    Thanks in advance for any info (obviously I havent done any research yet)

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    If I have a mortgage through Bank of America, I'm I still eligible for the Harp? Also, would BOA do a "loan modification" in order to keep my business instead of seeing me reffinance with another company?

     

    Thanks in advance for any info (obviously I havent done any research yet)

     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2012 - 8:47 PM ET #15

    Train, you are definitely still eligible the key is to check the fannie and freddie sites. If you get a yes than the next step is that you would've had to have your current mortgage before June 2009. Let me know if you have any other questi

    Wallstreet, rates have been rising but under that scenario you should be a rate around 4.5 - 4.75%. The closer you are to what you owe the better the rate. I hope that answers your questions

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    Train, you are definitely still eligible the key is to check the fannie and freddie sites. If you get a yes than the next step is that you would've had to have your current mortgage before June 2009. Let me know if you have any other questi

    Wallstreet, rates have been rising but under that scenario you should be a rate around 4.5 - 4.75%. The closer you are to what you owe the better the rate. I hope that answers your questions

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastmushstandin:

    Train, you are definitely still eligible the key is to check the fannie and freddie sites. If you get a yes than the next step is that you would've had to have your current mortgage before June 2009. Let me know if you have any other questi

    Wallstreet, rates have been rising but under that scenario you should be a rate around 4.5 - 4.75%. The closer you are to what you owe the better the rate. I hope that answers your questions

     

    My loan was finalized in March 2009 thru BOA. I am currently paying 5% interest. Do you need any other specifics?

    What exactly does the HARP program do? Would that be better than seeing if BOA would modify my mortgage?

    Thanks for the response

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastmushstandin:

    Train, you are definitely still eligible the key is to check the fannie and freddie sites. If you get a yes than the next step is that you would've had to have your current mortgage before June 2009. Let me know if you have any other questi

    Wallstreet, rates have been rising but under that scenario you should be a rate around 4.5 - 4.75%. The closer you are to what you owe the better the rate. I hope that answers your questions

     

    My loan was finalized in March 2009 thru BOA. I am currently paying 5% interest. Do you need any other specifics?

    What exactly does the HARP program do? Would that be better than seeing if BOA would modify my mortgage?

    Thanks for the response

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2012 - 1:21 AM ET #17

    Lastmush,

    Thanks for the answers, for sure it is not me in this position luckily but the people who are havent missed payments, didnt go the SS route or quit, rather they are going to work through their deficit over time and are handling things the right way (at least in my opinion).
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    Thanks for the answers, for sure it is not me in this position luckily but the people who are havent missed payments, didnt go the SS route or quit, rather they are going to work through their deficit over time and are handling things the right way (at least in my opinion).
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2012 - 10:58 AM ET #18

    Train, Harp didn't help enough home owner's trying to do the right thing so Congress can up with HARP 2.0. Harp 2.0 let's people refinance that are upside down in their home. That being said you have to be current and haven't missed any payments in the past 12 months and has to be owned by fannie mae or freddie mac. In your situation BofA services the loan but you need to find out if BofA sold it to fannie or freddie. I have attached some look up to tools above. Check it out and see if they indeed own your loan it will take less than 5 minutes.

    The market has been on the rise and your rate is decent but depending on your loan amount, est value and credit score will determine if it's worth the effort. I have a lot of clients that are 6.5% and 100k underwater and i'm lowering their to 4.5%.

    I hope this helps

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    Train, Harp didn't help enough home owner's trying to do the right thing so Congress can up with HARP 2.0. Harp 2.0 let's people refinance that are upside down in their home. That being said you have to be current and haven't missed any payments in the past 12 months and has to be owned by fannie mae or freddie mac. In your situation BofA services the loan but you need to find out if BofA sold it to fannie or freddie. I have attached some look up to tools above. Check it out and see if they indeed own your loan it will take less than 5 minutes.

    The market has been on the rise and your rate is decent but depending on your loan amount, est value and credit score will determine if it's worth the effort. I have a lot of clients that are 6.5% and 100k underwater and i'm lowering their to 4.5%.

    I hope this helps

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2012 - 11:52 AM ET #19

    I have a condo loan originated 5 years ago and is an ARM . Interest is low now but could be rising soon. Balance is 200k but comps are running 120k. American Home Servicing (AHMSI) is servicing the loan since they are not a mortgage company anymore. What should I do ?
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    I have a condo loan originated 5 years ago and is an ARM . Interest is low now but could be rising soon. Balance is 200k but comps are running 120k. American Home Servicing (AHMSI) is servicing the loan since they are not a mortgage company anymore. What should I do ?
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 5:07 PM ET #20

    use the lookup tools if they come back as No then your only other option would be to try and negotiate with the current servicer of the loan. Fannie and Freddie didn't buy that many ARM products

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    use the lookup tools if they come back as No then your only other option would be to try and negotiate with the current servicer of the loan. Fannie and Freddie didn't buy that many ARM products

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