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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2007 - 4:14 PM ET #76

    Oh I get a laugh out of it as well. Politics is the best clown show going...I would call it the best free clown show going, but it can be damn expensive in reality.

     I really recommend that article in the Atlantic, not because I am for Obama (I can't say I am) but because of its astute  analysis of the generational divide that got us to such a miserable, toxic point in politics.Very good insights in that article....
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    Oh I get a laugh out of it as well. Politics is the best clown show going...I would call it the best free clown show going, but it can be damn expensive in reality.

     I really recommend that article in the Atlantic, not because I am for Obama (I can't say I am) but because of its astute  analysis of the generational divide that got us to such a miserable, toxic point in politics.Very good insights in that article....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2007 - 4:20 PM ET #77

    CSCO beats earnings estimates by a penny and goes down after hours
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    CSCO beats earnings estimates by a penny and goes down after hours
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2007 - 4:30 PM ET #78

    Yeah CSCO deserves to get hit after that report.

    I also imagine they will play it tight to the chest on the CC and the stock will go into the high 20s, which will be a good purchase price.

    High 20s meaning down the road, not tomorrow.
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    Yeah CSCO deserves to get hit after that report.

    I also imagine they will play it tight to the chest on the CC and the stock will go into the high 20s, which will be a good purchase price.

    High 20s meaning down the road, not tomorrow.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2007 - 4:44 PM ET #79

    high 20's for csco is very cheap
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    high 20's for csco is very cheap
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2007 - 4:46 PM ET #80

    SKF at precisely $100 at the moment
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    SKF at precisely $100 at the moment
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2007 - 5:42 PM ET #81

    Wall,
    I have around 400 shares of DRYS.  I got in at 90 and should have sold at 130, but decided to ride the wave and now it is below 110!  people are telling me to get out now, but some others say if you are in for long haul I should be fine. 
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    Wall,
    I have around 400 shares of DRYS.  I got in at 90 and should have sold at 130, but decided to ride the wave and now it is below 110!  people are telling me to get out now, but some others say if you are in for long haul I should be fine. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2007 - 5:48 PM ET #82

    FSLR
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    FSLR
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2007 - 7:05 PM ET #83

    WSC,
     
    WCG down to $31.75.  Haven't read anything on them since 5th when Reuters reported the probe may not be as bad as first thought.  Have you seen anything new about them?  Thinking about stepping in, if the overall market action tomorrow is positive.
     
     
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    WSC,
     
    WCG down to $31.75.  Haven't read anything on them since 5th when Reuters reported the probe may not be as bad as first thought.  Have you seen anything new about them?  Thinking about stepping in, if the overall market action tomorrow is positive.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2007 - 7:56 PM ET #84

    Grid,

    I read the same thing..I guess there is still some risk about Medicare pulling them or some penalty to managment from the state..

    I think it is worth a risk if it gets back into the 20s..a tightly controlled risk.


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    Grid,

    I read the same thing..I guess there is still some risk about Medicare pulling them or some penalty to managment from the state..

    I think it is worth a risk if it gets back into the 20s..a tightly controlled risk.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2007 - 8:15 PM ET #85

    Quote Originally Posted by tblinco32:

    Wall,
    I have around 400 shares of DRYS.  I got in at 90 and should have sold at 130, but decided to ride the wave and now it is below 110!  people are telling me to get out now, but some others say if you are in for long haul I should be fine. 


    I think longer term the stock is in great shape..at least until summer of 2008. Isnt that when the Olympics are?

    It is really too late for a stop, you let it slide 20 pts..you could still make 10%, but if it were ME I would gamble since you let it go this far...but for SURE you must set a stop at 92 or so..I wouldnt let it turn into a loser..I have done that too many times..a winning stock goes negative on me and I sit with the paper in my hands....
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    Quote Originally Posted by tblinco32:

    Wall,
    I have around 400 shares of DRYS.  I got in at 90 and should have sold at 130, but decided to ride the wave and now it is below 110!  people are telling me to get out now, but some others say if you are in for long haul I should be fine. 


    I think longer term the stock is in great shape..at least until summer of 2008. Isnt that when the Olympics are?

    It is really too late for a stop, you let it slide 20 pts..you could still make 10%, but if it were ME I would gamble since you let it go this far...but for SURE you must set a stop at 92 or so..I wouldnt let it turn into a loser..I have done that too many times..a winning stock goes negative on me and I sit with the paper in my hands....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2007 - 3:58 AM ET #86

    Good stuff, guys.  Well done.
     
    Greens-
     
    Let's face it, we need to replace our need for foreign oil.  Mock the greenies all you want, but renewable energy is our only way out.
     
    Koaj-
     
    Yep, public all over Cincy again.  Am buying CSCO long-haul here on the cheap after the sell-off the next 2 days.  Let's face it, broad market is going to get slaughtered today and Friday.  Friday's close could be a good entry point to get in before a BAILOUT PACKAGE announcement.
     
    WSC-
     
    FSLR made me want to throw up when I saw it at 204 AHs.  Really am sick about it.  Selling it at 148 2 weeks ago..........now 204.  This is the sheet that makes you want to dig a hole, get in it and die.  I don't have the balls to short it right here cause I am terrified of the manipulators and the kind of power they have.  I can just watch "FSLR" as a "fan" and pray it gets taken down the next couple of days.
     
    Everyone-
     
    Use the next 2 days' cataclysmic sell-off to get long these 2 names for the long-haul:
     
    GTLS
    CSCO
     
    Enjoy the sell-off the next 2 days......this is going to get ugly, ugly, ugly. But when peeps start jumping out of windows, buy, buy, buy.
     
    Cheers
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    Good stuff, guys.  Well done.
     
    Greens-
     
    Let's face it, we need to replace our need for foreign oil.  Mock the greenies all you want, but renewable energy is our only way out.
     
    Koaj-
     
    Yep, public all over Cincy again.  Am buying CSCO long-haul here on the cheap after the sell-off the next 2 days.  Let's face it, broad market is going to get slaughtered today and Friday.  Friday's close could be a good entry point to get in before a BAILOUT PACKAGE announcement.
     
    WSC-
     
    FSLR made me want to throw up when I saw it at 204 AHs.  Really am sick about it.  Selling it at 148 2 weeks ago..........now 204.  This is the sheet that makes you want to dig a hole, get in it and die.  I don't have the balls to short it right here cause I am terrified of the manipulators and the kind of power they have.  I can just watch "FSLR" as a "fan" and pray it gets taken down the next couple of days.
     
    Everyone-
     
    Use the next 2 days' cataclysmic sell-off to get long these 2 names for the long-haul:
     
    GTLS
    CSCO
     
    Enjoy the sell-off the next 2 days......this is going to get ugly, ugly, ugly. But when peeps start jumping out of windows, buy, buy, buy.
     
    Cheers
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2007 - 4:26 AM ET #87

    One more......how could I forget.
     
    MSFT.....use the sell-off to get on this one for the long-haul.
     
    These sell-offs are exactly why you always have to have cash ready to be deployed.  Otherwise, you see these names come in, and you do the "shoud've, would've, could've" thing.  I did that in the past way too much.....thank God that was the past.
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    One more......how could I forget.
     
    MSFT.....use the sell-off to get on this one for the long-haul.
     
    These sell-offs are exactly why you always have to have cash ready to be deployed.  Otherwise, you see these names come in, and you do the "shoud've, would've, could've" thing.  I did that in the past way too much.....thank God that was the past.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2007 - 8:46 AM ET #88


     First, realizing a we need to wean off imported oil in 2007 is only 30 years too late.

     Second, renewable energy sources cannot now, nor will they in many, manyyears replace petroleum. We do not have many many years to replace petroleum, as the perfect strom of rapidly rising demand and declining output is taking place right now.

     However, we happen to possess massive coal reserves:just do not try to get permission to burn them. (even cleaner coal power plants are opposed).

     Lastly, not all of this is energy related as we know.The fact is that the FED finds itself in a real bind, where the old tool of lowering interest rates really ends up hurting the US economy, not helping it.The continual debasement of the USD (as WSC has pointed out) due to decades of flawed fiscal policy has gotten us here.
     
     

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     First, realizing a we need to wean off imported oil in 2007 is only 30 years too late.

     Second, renewable energy sources cannot now, nor will they in many, manyyears replace petroleum. We do not have many many years to replace petroleum, as the perfect strom of rapidly rising demand and declining output is taking place right now.

     However, we happen to possess massive coal reserves:just do not try to get permission to burn them. (even cleaner coal power plants are opposed).

     Lastly, not all of this is energy related as we know.The fact is that the FED finds itself in a real bind, where the old tool of lowering interest rates really ends up hurting the US economy, not helping it.The continual debasement of the USD (as WSC has pointed out) due to decades of flawed fiscal policy has gotten us here.
     
     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2007 - 8:48 AM ET #89


     PS KOAJ, thanks for that blog link, I think I will stop having so much fun...sheesh...what a way to start my day LOL., a real upper!!!

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     PS KOAJ, thanks for that blog link, I think I will stop having so much fun...sheesh...what a way to start my day LOL., a real upper!!!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2007 - 9:13 AM ET #90

    np vermeer - i guess when MS reported they have 3b in writedowns and the mkt buys the news i kind of chuckle and wait for Bear, Lehman, and goldman to confess their skeletons and wonder why merrill, citi, and morgan were first to report
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    np vermeer - i guess when MS reported they have 3b in writedowns and the mkt buys the news i kind of chuckle and wait for Bear, Lehman, and goldman to confess their skeletons and wonder why merrill, citi, and morgan were first to report
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2007 - 9:43 AM ET #91

    so which one of you now billionaires bought the FSLR 200 calls yesterday for 1.75?  13 bagger this morning.  sweet!  1 contract makes you 2,145 bucks!
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    so which one of you now billionaires bought the FSLR 200 calls yesterday for 1.75?  13 bagger this morning.  sweet!  1 contract makes you 2,145 bucks!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2007 - 10:04 AM ET #92

    bernanke speaking now

    WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) - The U.S. economy not only faces the risks of a sharp slowdown from the housing market contraction, but also of a surge of inflation from sharply higher crude oil prices and the weaker dollar, Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke said Thursday. Overall in prepared testimony to the Joint Economic Committee of Congress, Bernanke painted a picture of an economy in a perilous position, even though it has shown remarkable resilience so far this year, with third quarter gross domestic product rising at a solid 3.9% annual pace. Bernanke said that he and his colleagues at the FOMC expect the economy to slow "noticeably" from the Q3 growth rate and remain sluggish in the first half of 2008. And there were "downside" risks to this subdued forecast, Bernanke said But Bernanke also suggested that the hawkish members of the Fed might have a point. While the FOMC believes that overall and core inflation to be "in a range consistent with price stability" in 2008, there are "important upside risks" to the forecast.
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    bernanke speaking now

    WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) - The U.S. economy not only faces the risks of a sharp slowdown from the housing market contraction, but also of a surge of inflation from sharply higher crude oil prices and the weaker dollar, Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke said Thursday. Overall in prepared testimony to the Joint Economic Committee of Congress, Bernanke painted a picture of an economy in a perilous position, even though it has shown remarkable resilience so far this year, with third quarter gross domestic product rising at a solid 3.9% annual pace. Bernanke said that he and his colleagues at the FOMC expect the economy to slow "noticeably" from the Q3 growth rate and remain sluggish in the first half of 2008. And there were "downside" risks to this subdued forecast, Bernanke said But Bernanke also suggested that the hawkish members of the Fed might have a point. While the FOMC believes that overall and core inflation to be "in a range consistent with price stability" in 2008, there are "important upside risks" to the forecast.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2007 - 11:00 AM ET #93

    Gunners,

    Not me..

    I did cash in on some SPWR calls..but nothing like my sob story on th FSLR 150s I had.

    So here it goes..

    Buy 6 contracts at 12.70,

    Sell stop 6 contracts at 9

    Contracts now trading at 76 per contract..and I kid you not.

    Those 6 contracts are worth 68k today.



    Add that my SPWR options are much higher than where I sold today..

    Not giving a position time to breathe can really cost you...or me.


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    Gunners,

    Not me..

    I did cash in on some SPWR calls..but nothing like my sob story on th FSLR 150s I had.

    So here it goes..

    Buy 6 contracts at 12.70,

    Sell stop 6 contracts at 9

    Contracts now trading at 76 per contract..and I kid you not.

    Those 6 contracts are worth 68k today.



    Add that my SPWR options are much higher than where I sold today..

    Not giving a position time to breathe can really cost you...or me.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2007 - 11:19 AM ET #94

    yeah... those FSLR 200s are almost an 18 bagger now.  unbelievable run! 
     
    you get very close a lot WSC.  you're going to hit one soon
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    yeah... those FSLR 200s are almost an 18 bagger now.  unbelievable run! 
     
    you get very close a lot WSC.  you're going to hit one soon
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2007 - 11:21 AM ET #95

    Strange to see the Dow down, Nasdaq down 1% but S&P up a little.  The market is definitely dealing with some challenges.
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    Strange to see the Dow down, Nasdaq down 1% but S&P up a little.  The market is definitely dealing with some challenges.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2007 - 11:25 AM ET #96


     Ack  jeez Wall...rough break on that trade...lesson learned

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     Ack  jeez Wall...rough break on that trade...lesson learned

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2007 - 11:27 AM ET #97

    Depeche,

    That is true..it is definately a day of have and have-nots.

    Gunners, it happens too often..it is the trader in me where I dont ever let a trade run like it should, and my stops are too tight.

    That FSLR trade was from my acct..I did own those..stopped at 9 and they are worth 78 per now.

    The 210s are a 30 bagger today btw....
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    Depeche,

    That is true..it is definately a day of have and have-nots.

    Gunners, it happens too often..it is the trader in me where I dont ever let a trade run like it should, and my stops are too tight.

    That FSLR trade was from my acct..I did own those..stopped at 9 and they are worth 78 per now.

    The 210s are a 30 bagger today btw....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2007 - 11:31 AM ET #98

    I don't know if anyone follows it at all, but Ballard Power sold off its automotive fuel cell unit to Daimler and Ford.  Actually it's a new company to be formed where Daimler controls 50.1%, Ford 30% and Ballard retains around 20%.  Ballard will retire about 30% of its own shares that were held by Daimler and Ford.  Looks to be a really good move by Ballard as this was going to be a cash drain for many more years.  Reduces outstanding shares, eliminate the R&D burn, move up FC timeline with a more focused auto effort, retain future IP benefits for other apps, a share in the new company.  Very smart move.  The drain on this stock is going to be removed and they could do really well going forward IMO.
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    I don't know if anyone follows it at all, but Ballard Power sold off its automotive fuel cell unit to Daimler and Ford.  Actually it's a new company to be formed where Daimler controls 50.1%, Ford 30% and Ballard retains around 20%.  Ballard will retire about 30% of its own shares that were held by Daimler and Ford.  Looks to be a really good move by Ballard as this was going to be a cash drain for many more years.  Reduces outstanding shares, eliminate the R&D burn, move up FC timeline with a more focused auto effort, retain future IP benefits for other apps, a share in the new company.  Very smart move.  The drain on this stock is going to be removed and they could do really well going forward IMO.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2007 - 11:53 AM ET #99

    Depeche,

    Isnt that the GUTS of the business?

    What is left if the auto fuel cell biz is gone? I ask because when I think of Ballard I think fuel cell...
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    Depeche,

    Isnt that the GUTS of the business?

    What is left if the auto fuel cell biz is gone? I ask because when I think of Ballard I think fuel cell...
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2007 - 12:01 PM ET #100

    What are the odds we see a 1,000 point drop day before Thanksgiving?
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    What are the odds we see a 1,000 point drop day before Thanksgiving?
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