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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2020 - 1:07 PM ET #1026

    The top pretty much coincided with the lowest unemployment in American history. 

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    The top pretty much coincided with the lowest unemployment in American history. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2020 - 5:39 PM ET #1027

    Wall Street Journal: 

    Breaking: A new bull market has begun. The Dow has rallied more than 20% since hitting a low 3 days ago, ending the shortest bear market ever. 

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    Wall Street Journal: 

    Breaking: A new bull market has begun. The Dow has rallied more than 20% since hitting a low 3 days ago, ending the shortest bear market ever. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2020 - 5:45 PM ET #1028

    Imagine writing that headline as unemployment breaks records, the Fed prints trillions, nobody is leaving their houses, and global trade is at a standstill 

    Thats borderline criminal 

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    Imagine writing that headline as unemployment breaks records, the Fed prints trillions, nobody is leaving their houses, and global trade is at a standstill 

    Thats borderline criminal 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2020 - 5:58 PM ET #1029

    .….and so it will be the shortest bull market in the history of time. 

    That said, Detox, the Fed and our government will always backstop this market. Someday, there will be a price to pay but when the entire global economy is in the same boat, the price will not be paid today. 

    What is clear is that come the end of spring or the beginning of summer, another 2 trillion will be thrown into the air and the pork will be served to keep the markets afloat.

    Like I said over a month ago in this thread, I see no reason why Bitcoin and the S&P 500 can't both be winners on the other side of this crisis two years down the road. The monopoly money will continue to flow, which should have the side effect of making BTC more attractive. 

    Your extreme predictions (HD at $80?) will simply never be realized no matter how pessimistic you become.

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    .….and so it will be the shortest bull market in the history of time. 

    That said, Detox, the Fed and our government will always backstop this market. Someday, there will be a price to pay but when the entire global economy is in the same boat, the price will not be paid today. 

    What is clear is that come the end of spring or the beginning of summer, another 2 trillion will be thrown into the air and the pork will be served to keep the markets afloat.

    Like I said over a month ago in this thread, I see no reason why Bitcoin and the S&P 500 can't both be winners on the other side of this crisis two years down the road. The monopoly money will continue to flow, which should have the side effect of making BTC more attractive. 

    Your extreme predictions (HD at $80?) will simply never be realized no matter how pessimistic you become.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2020 - 10:09 PM ET #1030

    The market will tank. Run of the mill bull trap. 

    Cant believe they shut down the world for what will end up being a severe flu

    What a scam! 

    Plebs will think wew good thing we quarantined 

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    The market will tank. Run of the mill bull trap. 

    Cant believe they shut down the world for what will end up being a severe flu

    What a scam! 

    Plebs will think wew good thing we quarantined 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2020 - 10:18 PM ET #1031

    Corona: 24,000 deaths worldwide 

    Diarrhea: 2.2 million deaths annually 

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    Corona: 24,000 deaths worldwide 

    Diarrhea: 2.2 million deaths annually 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2020 - 7:32 AM ET #1032

    Id say massive profit taking on longs by the end of the day. Nobody will want to hold this through the weekend. This was an exit pump. 

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    Id say massive profit taking on longs by the end of the day. Nobody will want to hold this through the weekend. This was an exit pump. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2020 - 9:33 AM ET #1033

    Portnoy down $250k on LULU 

    Yelling at brokers contacting him, says they’re losers 

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    Portnoy down $250k on LULU 

    Yelling at brokers contacting him, says they’re losers 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2020 - 10:53 AM ET #1034

    Has Buffet deployed his $125 Billion yet? 

    No. 

    Why?

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    Has Buffet deployed his $125 Billion yet? 

    No. 

    Why?

     
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    Why?

    Because the opportunity to either increase his monopolies or really take advantage of someone didnt come up. I am sure he was binge eating all the sweets he loves waiting for an airline or an oil to come crawling before him asking for some cash and then he would lay the pipe to their head and take advantage. Most all of his acquisitions are where he uses his wealth to take advantage and its usually during times of need. I also think he is smarting for the losses his monopoly has taken so he might be laying low.

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    Why?

    Because the opportunity to either increase his monopolies or really take advantage of someone didnt come up. I am sure he was binge eating all the sweets he loves waiting for an airline or an oil to come crawling before him asking for some cash and then he would lay the pipe to their head and take advantage. Most all of his acquisitions are where he uses his wealth to take advantage and its usually during times of need. I also think he is smarting for the losses his monopoly has taken so he might be laying low.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2020 - 6:29 PM ET #1036

    Oh yeah. I was suggesting that Buffet isn’t buying because we’re going much lower. 

    Futures open in the red. 

    I’m looking for TSLA below $200, HD around $80 and a bunch of real estate developments to go bankrupt. We still have another year+ to go. 

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    Oh yeah. I was suggesting that Buffet isn’t buying because we’re going much lower. 

    Futures open in the red. 

    I’m looking for TSLA below $200, HD around $80 and a bunch of real estate developments to go bankrupt. We still have another year+ to go. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2020 - 6:40 PM ET #1037

    Oil is getting smoked again. 

    Wall, what’s the bottom here? Can it go to $15? $10? 

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    Oil is getting smoked again. 

    Wall, what’s the bottom here? Can it go to $15? $10? 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2020 - 6:59 PM ET #1038

    Yeah I saw oil opened almost under 20, it was 19 I think friday? It can go lower because demand is down of course and supply is super high. Without the coordinated effort to cap supply I dont know how it can go higher...but I think Russia knows this and wants to break our nasty fracking and Canada, and also maybe teach the Saudi's some humility.

    If it keeps going lower I might toss some risk capital at big safe oil for a trade not a long term position. I have quite a position in all those names I mentioned and am not going to move them for a long time...but as usual I am early on the trade even though I waited a LONG time.

    BTC trading isnt impressive..just crawling down and the only volume seems to be on spikes lower the last while. Maybe I will get another shot under my last purchase.

    I agree with your price points on those stocks. I see no reason why HD should be this high..of course it is this high and that is the current price but Ive been in them once or twice during this and their traffic is WAY down...I dont see how they wont get hit hard. I think people are thinking this is a quick reverse and everything is ok again...well even if things do improve it isnt like we are going to be back to high speed leverage spending. People are going to be cautious and want to have some safety, well they SHOULD be thinking that anyway. If someone who has no history of ever being in need of savings does not see this as a blaring red stop sign I dont know what else could make the point. I'd say a high majority of lower to upper middle class are not prepared for more than two months of pain before their CC's get maxed or they start panicking.

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    Yeah I saw oil opened almost under 20, it was 19 I think friday? It can go lower because demand is down of course and supply is super high. Without the coordinated effort to cap supply I dont know how it can go higher...but I think Russia knows this and wants to break our nasty fracking and Canada, and also maybe teach the Saudi's some humility.

    If it keeps going lower I might toss some risk capital at big safe oil for a trade not a long term position. I have quite a position in all those names I mentioned and am not going to move them for a long time...but as usual I am early on the trade even though I waited a LONG time.

    BTC trading isnt impressive..just crawling down and the only volume seems to be on spikes lower the last while. Maybe I will get another shot under my last purchase.

    I agree with your price points on those stocks. I see no reason why HD should be this high..of course it is this high and that is the current price but Ive been in them once or twice during this and their traffic is WAY down...I dont see how they wont get hit hard. I think people are thinking this is a quick reverse and everything is ok again...well even if things do improve it isnt like we are going to be back to high speed leverage spending. People are going to be cautious and want to have some safety, well they SHOULD be thinking that anyway. If someone who has no history of ever being in need of savings does not see this as a blaring red stop sign I dont know what else could make the point. I'd say a high majority of lower to upper middle class are not prepared for more than two months of pain before their CC's get maxed or they start panicking.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2020 - 8:49 PM ET #1039

    Yeah, I’ve gotten smoked on bitcoin. Gold is up a little. In hindsight I should have went into more of a cash position and transitioned into bitcoin slowly. I still think Bitcoin is a great play for the next 18-24 months but I could have gotten more bang for my buck. 

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    Yeah, I’ve gotten smoked on bitcoin. Gold is up a little. In hindsight I should have went into more of a cash position and transitioned into bitcoin slowly. I still think Bitcoin is a great play for the next 18-24 months but I could have gotten more bang for my buck. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2020 - 11:30 PM ET #1040

    Detox... just curious.   How do you arrive arrive at an $80 target for HD.   Seems unrealistic a further 50 %  fall from hear.  Let's just say if you get your opportunity,  this country will have much bigger problems to contend with... like a depression 

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    Detox... just curious.   How do you arrive arrive at an $80 target for HD.   Seems unrealistic a further 50 %  fall from hear.  Let's just say if you get your opportunity,  this country will have much bigger problems to contend with... like a depression 

     
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    *Here

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    *Here

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 7:28 AM ET #1042

    $80 seems like a fair price when looking at the chart. It was trading around there for a long time in 2014. 

    Everyone always underestimates what a recession is. We’re barely 2 months into the recession. I’ve listened to many of the big dogs and they all seem to have a very simple macro picture —> roughly 8 years up, roughly 18 months down. 

    Assuming the geniuses are right and we’re 2 months in to an 18 month recession. Where do you think HD will bottom? 

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    $80 seems like a fair price when looking at the chart. It was trading around there for a long time in 2014. 

    Everyone always underestimates what a recession is. We’re barely 2 months into the recession. I’ve listened to many of the big dogs and they all seem to have a very simple macro picture —> roughly 8 years up, roughly 18 months down. 

    Assuming the geniuses are right and we’re 2 months in to an 18 month recession. Where do you think HD will bottom? 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 7:30 AM ET #1043

    Saudi plans to increase crude oil exports starting in May by about 600,000 bpd. Total exports to 10.6 million bpd. 

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    Saudi plans to increase crude oil exports starting in May by about 600,000 bpd. Total exports to 10.6 million bpd. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 8:00 AM ET #1044

    HD was trading at $20 at the bottom of the last recession. 

    If you buy the bottom of a recession, your position should 5x - 10x during the next 8 year bull market. 

    MGM $3.50 - $32 

    HD $20 - $230 

    JPM $23 - $135 

    Google $155 - $1,400 

    ETC 

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    HD was trading at $20 at the bottom of the last recession. 

    If you buy the bottom of a recession, your position should 5x - 10x during the next 8 year bull market. 

    MGM $3.50 - $32 

    HD $20 - $230 

    JPM $23 - $135 

    Google $155 - $1,400 

    ETC 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 9:40 AM ET #1045

    Exxon is boosting production 

    What is going on 

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    Exxon is boosting production 

    What is going on 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Would short here  PENN 14.03  TSLA 509  MGM 12.44  Havent seen two consecutive green days in a while

    Closing shorts. 

    PENN 10.01 

    MGM 11.05 

    Wallstreet, can you send my winnings in bitcoin? Thanks! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Would short here  PENN 14.03  TSLA 509  MGM 12.44  Havent seen two consecutive green days in a while

    Closing shorts. 

    PENN 10.01 

    MGM 11.05 

    Wallstreet, can you send my winnings in bitcoin? Thanks! 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    HD was trading at $20 at the bottom of the last recession.  If you buy the bottom of a recession, your position should 5x - 10x during the next 8 year bull market.  MGM $3.50 - $32  HD $20 - $230  JPM $23 - $135  Google $155 - $1,400  ETC

    It's rather the simplistic to place a generic valuation on a basket of stocks. You can do better than this, regardless of how big of a pessimistic bear you happen to be. We all understand what you are rooting for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    HD was trading at $20 at the bottom of the last recession.  If you buy the bottom of a recession, your position should 5x - 10x during the next 8 year bull market.  MGM $3.50 - $32  HD $20 - $230  JPM $23 - $135  Google $155 - $1,400  ETC

    It's rather the simplistic to place a generic valuation on a basket of stocks. You can do better than this, regardless of how big of a pessimistic bear you happen to be. We all understand what you are rooting for.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 12:01 PM ET #1048

    I’m rooting for housing and stocks to burn to the ground and bitcoin and gold to pump to the moon. Then I can buy the housing and stock bottom with my gains, play golf everyday and take naps. 

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    I’m rooting for housing and stocks to burn to the ground and bitcoin and gold to pump to the moon. Then I can buy the housing and stock bottom with my gains, play golf everyday and take naps. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 12:18 PM ET #1049

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Would short here  PENN 14.03  TSLA 509  MGM 12.44  Havent seen two consecutive green days in a while Closing shorts.  PENN 10.01  MGM 11.05  Wallstreet, can you send my winnings in bitcoin? Thanks!

    Id been set up to go in but it hadnt got to my price point. If I had listened to you I'd have zero in my account from owning ADA at 3 bucks or whatever it was..

    quiet

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Would short here  PENN 14.03  TSLA 509  MGM 12.44  Havent seen two consecutive green days in a while Closing shorts.  PENN 10.01  MGM 11.05  Wallstreet, can you send my winnings in bitcoin? Thanks!

    Id been set up to go in but it hadnt got to my price point. If I had listened to you I'd have zero in my account from owning ADA at 3 bucks or whatever it was..

    quiet

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    $80 seems like a fair price when looking at the chart. It was trading around there for a long time in 2014.  Everyone always underestimates what a recession is. We’re barely 2 months into the recession. I’ve listened to many of the big dogs and they all seem to have a very simple macro picture —> roughly 8 years up, roughly 18 months down.  Assuming the geniuses are right and we’re 2 months in to an 18 month recession. Where do you think HD will bottom?

    I gotcha.. I'm not a big chart guy, but believe it can be used to complement analysis on a company's fundamentals .. I mentioned in the other thread that stocks are trading in a vacuum right now.  They are not tethered to anything,  because no one has any idea what earnings will be for the foreseeable future.   Also, can I opine and say that catching a bottom is a fool's game.  You may be more of a trader than I am, but as a long term investor,  I ask myself if stocks will be worth more 3 years from now.    I'm not backing up the truck,  but have been selective on the way Down... and yes, they could get much cheaper 

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    $80 seems like a fair price when looking at the chart. It was trading around there for a long time in 2014.  Everyone always underestimates what a recession is. We’re barely 2 months into the recession. I’ve listened to many of the big dogs and they all seem to have a very simple macro picture —> roughly 8 years up, roughly 18 months down.  Assuming the geniuses are right and we’re 2 months in to an 18 month recession. Where do you think HD will bottom?

    I gotcha.. I'm not a big chart guy, but believe it can be used to complement analysis on a company's fundamentals .. I mentioned in the other thread that stocks are trading in a vacuum right now.  They are not tethered to anything,  because no one has any idea what earnings will be for the foreseeable future.   Also, can I opine and say that catching a bottom is a fool's game.  You may be more of a trader than I am, but as a long term investor,  I ask myself if stocks will be worth more 3 years from now.    I'm not backing up the truck,  but have been selective on the way Down... and yes, they could get much cheaper 

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