Your thoughts on CAIRO PRINCE

I watched the race again today. The horse seemed troubled, maybe because he didn't grab the lead or come close to it.

He seemed to not know what to do when he got behind the leaders looking to me frustrated. Maybe he just wasn't interested, which happens on occasion.

His work pattern coming into the race was sound, so what's the excuse?

I know Kiaran said he'd be happy with finishing in the top 3 and, for all practical purposes, he did. Translated means to me that "the horse needed the race."

IF the horse is sound and wasn't bothered in the FLA Derby by any physical issues, I accept that he needed the race. If that is the case, then Cairo Prince should get high consideration to win the Kentucky Derby.

 

Mikey, I have seen many times where horse looks "disinterested" or maybe jockey was just tuning him up on trainers or owners orders, you never really know.  If he is sound and came out o FL Derby ok, he should still be considered major player at Churchill Downs.  But I wouldn't take too short a price on him.  Derbies these days seem to be won more by improving horses who are peaking in early May, not those trying to regain lost form.

HOWZ---I think you're right.

However, you know as well as I do that the $2 Derby Day bettors don't know what those of us who follow know, so they'll play chalk galore . That, coupled with, say, California Chrome coming in off a win in the SA Derby, or the new 'flavor of the day, Constitution getting Pletcher related hype,and I think we'll get 5-1 or better on CP.

What do you think about my theory?

https://tmedia.trakus.com/dsi/dsivideo/20/wmv/2014/20140329_race14.wmv?WMCache=1

CP will be lucky to see the starting gate May 3rd, not that ge deserves to!! Kiaran treated him like a superstar after he won the holy bull, what a joke! 5-1? Why would you even consider this horse in the derby??? He ran 4th in a field of 4 good horses and he now has another 35 day lay-off following a 60 day lay off. Forget CP his derby hopes are long gone....... and u can thank his connections for that

Your aware the 2 horses to win the Derby off a 4th place prep in recent history were both 50-1!?!? And your willing to take 5-1?

Hey Guys,

 

Yeah, but no way CP is 50-1 or even close to it. He's been the golden boy. As Vet states, he might have to race one more time to get in.

Real disappointed with the way Cairo Prince ran. My thoughts are on the Derby. Prince has 24 points,( 16th place) and there are 4 major preps to be run over the next 2 weeks. I don't see him making the field. Kiaran set a plan for CP to run in the Florida derby, then the kentucky derby. Does he now find another race for him? If so how will he be set up for derby? If he does not run, I don't see him making the field. It's seems to me that 3 year olds are running a lot less leading up to the Derby-less margin for error. Again I am thinking Kentucky Derby, and this will be the last time I will spend thinking about Prince until late summer.

AGREE!

Let's assume he wants to get into the Derby....then you are looking at two potentially grueling races on a two week layoff:  the Blue Grass and Ark. Derby.

 Of course, who knows if Kiaran has been setting him up for the Preakness all along?

Baltimore in May anyone?

HEY BULL! Hope all is well. Been a long time pal.

Hey guys

Let's see if California Chrome can beat Chitu and a few of the other decent west coasters.

I was thinking after the Rebel that the KY. Derby winner just might come out of the Arkansas Derby.

 

The Arkansas Derby is gonna be loaded! Tapiture, Ride on Curlin, Bayern, Strong Mandate, Commissioner all comfirmed. Tapiture will get Rosario and Commissioner will get Mike Smith

AB--Yessir!.....might be the best of all the prep races...even better than the Wood, which, I suspect,  will likely have Uncle Sigh and Samraat and Harpoon.

I wonder if Baffert would have the stones to bring one of his to the Wood like he did with Bob and John and a few others?

I forgot about conquest titan in the Ark derby with Calvin up! Social Inclusion is going to the Wood also

nothing but good stuff ahead. I'm guessing that even the Blue Grass will have a better than normal field.

I read earlier today they already have 13 confirmed for the blue grass

I watched the race again today. The horse seemed troubled, maybe because he didn't grab the lead or come close to it.

HAHAHA...Kursh. Yes. The old Zen=Rachel talk

 

Good thoughts on CP, but who knows with Kiaran

 

BARBER...didn't know there were 13 entered. Wonder how many will hit the post

Mike I watched the race again. The horse ran fine and did not lose by that much, but I agree the horse did not respond to the whip. This horse IMO has a great future when he feels like running. I would love to be that fly on the wall when he is stabled. Would like to see his attitude. Is he mean, have a goat, horny.....we all know some horses are temperamental and maybe a jockey switch could help. I think the horse can go the distance and would be hard to leave off the tri's, IF he gets in.  

Kursh/Mikey,

BULL:

Looks like this Derby might be a handicappers dream.....or nightmare. However, lots of racing left. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.