I do not watch UFC, but when the biggest star in pro wrestling crosses over, I pay attention.
Anyone who has opinions on this fight and if this line is legitimate, please speak.
One of the primary reasons Brock is fighting at UFC#200 is for the WWE to get good mainstream publicity and have Brock cross back over to the ring as even more of a legitimate wrestler.
A loss is bad publicity and weakens his character.
Why wouldn't he be set up with a weaker opponent, or at least one that is weak enough to open as a coin flip?
To remove first post, remove entire topic.
I do not watch UFC, but when the biggest star in pro wrestling crosses over, I pay attention.
Anyone who has opinions on this fight and if this line is legitimate, please speak.
One of the primary reasons Brock is fighting at UFC#200 is for the WWE to get good mainstream publicity and have Brock cross back over to the ring as even more of a legitimate wrestler.
A loss is bad publicity and weakens his character.
Why wouldn't he be set up with a weaker opponent, or at least one that is weak enough to open as a coin flip?
I do not watch UFC, but when the biggest star in pro wrestling crosses over, I pay attention.
I stopped watching pro wrestling when I was about 12. Realize from now on whenever you attack me I will throw this gem of a quote out there so people understand the lunacy of the attacker
That being said, why should the UFC capitulate to what the WWE wants?
Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:
I do not watch UFC, but when the biggest star in pro wrestling crosses over, I pay attention.
I stopped watching pro wrestling when I was about 12. Realize from now on whenever you attack me I will throw this gem of a quote out there so people understand the lunacy of the attacker
That being said, why should the UFC capitulate to what the WWE wants?
Well, he lost his last 2 fights in the first round which were in 2010 and 2011 so he has some rust for sure.... Hunt is 3-3-1 last 7 fights over the last 3 years and all 3 losses were to really good competition. He also just fought in March KO'ing Frank Mir.
Lesnar was somewhat timid in his return from his bout with diverticulitis in those fights. It'll be interesting to see what happens... personally I don't he will be in good enough shape to go past 1 round, so he needs to end it quickly otherwise he's gonna wear out and lose
Well, he lost his last 2 fights in the first round which were in 2010 and 2011 so he has some rust for sure.... Hunt is 3-3-1 last 7 fights over the last 3 years and all 3 losses were to really good competition. He also just fought in March KO'ing Frank Mir.
Lesnar was somewhat timid in his return from his bout with diverticulitis in those fights. It'll be interesting to see what happens... personally I don't he will be in good enough shape to go past 1 round, so he needs to end it quickly otherwise he's gonna wear out and lose
I could see Lesnar getting the fight to the ground and pounding Hunt out like he did to Mir.
A lot of people think Lesnar can't take a punch but the Carwin fight showed different.
I don't think he would take the fight unless he was 100% sure he was ready and over what derailed his MMA career in the past.
Also for all Hunt is billed to be, he's 42. Mir is complete garbage now. He came in the Octogon incredibly out of shape for that fight and it showed. Bigfoot Silva is also complete garbage now, not sure his chin could withstand a shot from my 5 year old at this point.
So besides a KO to Roy Nelson, Hunt hasn't done anything since that run he had from 2011-2013.
Don't get me wrong, Hunt's punching power is extremely legit and he could catch Lesnar, but Lesnar's skills were and presumably still are legit as well. I think this fight should be close to a pick'em, there's value with the dog imo. I got Lesnar at +155 the day it went up, it's already down to +140.
I could see Lesnar getting the fight to the ground and pounding Hunt out like he did to Mir.
A lot of people think Lesnar can't take a punch but the Carwin fight showed different.
I don't think he would take the fight unless he was 100% sure he was ready and over what derailed his MMA career in the past.
Also for all Hunt is billed to be, he's 42. Mir is complete garbage now. He came in the Octogon incredibly out of shape for that fight and it showed. Bigfoot Silva is also complete garbage now, not sure his chin could withstand a shot from my 5 year old at this point.
So besides a KO to Roy Nelson, Hunt hasn't done anything since that run he had from 2011-2013.
Don't get me wrong, Hunt's punching power is extremely legit and he could catch Lesnar, but Lesnar's skills were and presumably still are legit as well. I think this fight should be close to a pick'em, there's value with the dog imo. I got Lesnar at +155 the day it went up, it's already down to +140.
Mark Hunt is a legitimate title contender, he is not some scrub joureyman. He is the cream of the crop at Heavyweight. He has tremendous IQ in regards to game planning, he has great takedown defense and is able keep the fight standing which is his specialty, and most importantly he has arguably the most powerful punches in all of MMA.
When he let's his hands go and opens up with those first several combinations, Brock will turtle up and the fight will be stopped. Mark Hunt is a world class striker who is extremely hard to take down to the mats.
This fight will not last more than a minute or two in my opinion. I've been following MMA since I'm 13, I'm 29 now.
Scal,
Mark Hunt is a legitimate title contender, he is not some scrub joureyman. He is the cream of the crop at Heavyweight. He has tremendous IQ in regards to game planning, he has great takedown defense and is able keep the fight standing which is his specialty, and most importantly he has arguably the most powerful punches in all of MMA.
When he let's his hands go and opens up with those first several combinations, Brock will turtle up and the fight will be stopped. Mark Hunt is a world class striker who is extremely hard to take down to the mats.
This fight will not last more than a minute or two in my opinion. I've been following MMA since I'm 13, I'm 29 now.
I do not watch UFC, but when the biggest star in pro wrestling crosses over, I pay attention.
Anyone who has opinions on this fight and if this line is legitimate, please speak.
One of the primary reasons Brock is fighting at UFC#200 is for the WWE to get good mainstream publicity and have Brock cross back over to the ring as even more of a legitimate wrestler.
A loss is bad publicity and weakens his character.
Why wouldn't he be set up with a weaker opponent, or at least one that is weak enough to open as a coin flip?
So he's the best actor among them!
I don't watch the UFC, but I'm pretty sure it's not choreographed.
Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:
I do not watch UFC, but when the biggest star in pro wrestling crosses over, I pay attention.
Anyone who has opinions on this fight and if this line is legitimate, please speak.
One of the primary reasons Brock is fighting at UFC#200 is for the WWE to get good mainstream publicity and have Brock cross back over to the ring as even more of a legitimate wrestler.
A loss is bad publicity and weakens his character.
Why wouldn't he be set up with a weaker opponent, or at least one that is weak enough to open as a coin flip?
So he's the best actor among them!
I don't watch the UFC, but I'm pretty sure it's not choreographed.
I stopped watching pro wrestling when I was about 12. Realize from now on whenever you attack me I will throw this gem of a quote out there so people understand the lunacy of the attacker
That being said, why should the UFC capitulate to what the WWE wants?
Quote Originally Posted by thecentaur:
I stopped watching pro wrestling when I was about 12. Realize from now on whenever you attack me I will throw this gem of a quote out there so people understand the lunacy of the attacker
That being said, why should the UFC capitulate to what the WWE wants?
Not sure why the stigma with pro wrestling still goes on in GD. It's only funny to same group of frat boys pushing each other into the bushes and laughing every time.
There is money to be made in pro wrestling. End of story.
Anyhow, love the input BWS and Jason.
But I'm sold on kjr's write-up simply because the line makes perfect sense based on what he wrote.
And I even forgot Brock lost his last two fights, as BwS noted and he was hampered by a sickness or otherwise.
Jason your argument about age and Lesnar's ability to catch him and ground and pound does scare me but I'm gonna have to take Hunt and the chalk for now.
Not sure why the stigma with pro wrestling still goes on in GD. It's only funny to same group of frat boys pushing each other into the bushes and laughing every time.
There is money to be made in pro wrestling. End of story.
Anyhow, love the input BWS and Jason.
But I'm sold on kjr's write-up simply because the line makes perfect sense based on what he wrote.
And I even forgot Brock lost his last two fights, as BwS noted and he was hampered by a sickness or otherwise.
Jason your argument about age and Lesnar's ability to catch him and ground and pound does scare me but I'm gonna have to take Hunt and the chalk for now.
I do not watch UFC, but when the biggest star in pro wrestling crosses over, I pay attention.
Anyone who has opinions on this fight and if this line is legitimate, please speak.
Scal, BUBBY, how many times do I have to tell you?
The WWE is "Choreographed extreme male hugging" and much like stuttering, having a high pitched voice, no pubes, or thinking girls are "icky", usually by the time you turn 12 you grow up and this goes away.....
Now.....
The UFC is real, real athletes fighting for real, throwing real punches and taking real hits. There's no "storylines" or "characters". No one's hitting anybody with a folding chair, or a 2X4, or placing a python on their "unconscious" body after they "win"....
So, in your mind, and using your logic, you think Cain Velasquez and King Kong Bundy should be on the same level playing field otherwise the line looks "fishy"?
Just stick to the WWE - leave the real sports to the adults.....
Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:
I do not watch UFC, but when the biggest star in pro wrestling crosses over, I pay attention.
Anyone who has opinions on this fight and if this line is legitimate, please speak.
Scal, BUBBY, how many times do I have to tell you?
The WWE is "Choreographed extreme male hugging" and much like stuttering, having a high pitched voice, no pubes, or thinking girls are "icky", usually by the time you turn 12 you grow up and this goes away.....
Now.....
The UFC is real, real athletes fighting for real, throwing real punches and taking real hits. There's no "storylines" or "characters". No one's hitting anybody with a folding chair, or a 2X4, or placing a python on their "unconscious" body after they "win"....
So, in your mind, and using your logic, you think Cain Velasquez and King Kong Bundy should be on the same level playing field otherwise the line looks "fishy"?
Just stick to the WWE - leave the real sports to the adults.....
Scal, BUBBY, how many times do I have to tell you?
The WWE is "Choreographed extreme male hugging" and much like stuttering, having a high pitched voice, no pubes, or thinking girls are "icky", usually by the time you turn 12 you grow up and this goes away.....
Now.....
The UFC is real, real athletes fighting for real, throwing real punches and taking real hits. There's no "storylines" or "characters". No one's hitting anybody with a folding chair, or a 2X4, or placing a python on their "unconscious" body after they "win"....
So, in your mind, and using your logic, you think Cain Velasquez and King Kong Bundy should be on the same level playing field otherwise the line looks "fishy"?
Just stick to the WWE - leave the real sports to the adults.....
You do realize Brock became UFC Heavyweight Champion coming from WWE, right?
Anyone that clowns WWE is a clown. Those guys are some of the most athletic men and women in the world.
Making fun of WWE is so boring and repetitive. Nobody that likes wrestling cares about your opinions, so no reason to give them.
And you are really ignorant and stupid if you don't think there are storylines and characters in UFC. Conor McGregor, Ronda Rousey, Jon Jones, Anderson Silva...Those guys aren't characters? Of course they are. Each PPV is bought based on the fights obviously, but because rivalries and storylines are a part of the sport. If you don't see that then wake up. Stop being ignorant.
Quote Originally Posted by GimmeMoneyNow:
Scal, BUBBY, how many times do I have to tell you?
The WWE is "Choreographed extreme male hugging" and much like stuttering, having a high pitched voice, no pubes, or thinking girls are "icky", usually by the time you turn 12 you grow up and this goes away.....
Now.....
The UFC is real, real athletes fighting for real, throwing real punches and taking real hits. There's no "storylines" or "characters". No one's hitting anybody with a folding chair, or a 2X4, or placing a python on their "unconscious" body after they "win"....
So, in your mind, and using your logic, you think Cain Velasquez and King Kong Bundy should be on the same level playing field otherwise the line looks "fishy"?
Just stick to the WWE - leave the real sports to the adults.....
You do realize Brock became UFC Heavyweight Champion coming from WWE, right?
Anyone that clowns WWE is a clown. Those guys are some of the most athletic men and women in the world.
Making fun of WWE is so boring and repetitive. Nobody that likes wrestling cares about your opinions, so no reason to give them.
And you are really ignorant and stupid if you don't think there are storylines and characters in UFC. Conor McGregor, Ronda Rousey, Jon Jones, Anderson Silva...Those guys aren't characters? Of course they are. Each PPV is bought based on the fights obviously, but because rivalries and storylines are a part of the sport. If you don't see that then wake up. Stop being ignorant.
You do realize Brock became UFC Heavyweight Champion coming from WWE, right?
Anyone that clowns WWE is a clown. Those guys are some of the most athletic men and women in the world.
Making fun of WWE is so boring and repetitive. Nobody that likes wrestling cares about your opinions, so no reason to give them.
And you are really ignorant and stupid if you don't think there are storylines and characters in UFC. Conor McGregor, Ronda Rousey, Jon Jones, Anderson Silva...Those guys aren't characters? Of course they are. Each PPV is bought based on the fights obviously, but because rivalries and storylines are a part of the sport. If you don't see that then wake up. Stop being ignorant.
We understand there are people who enjoy pro wrestling. That's fine. To post you only pay attn to a legit competition like the UFC when a WWE fighter gets involved is laughable though, especially considering the alternate reality in which the OP likes to have discussions with and criticize other posters.
Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:
You do realize Brock became UFC Heavyweight Champion coming from WWE, right?
Anyone that clowns WWE is a clown. Those guys are some of the most athletic men and women in the world.
Making fun of WWE is so boring and repetitive. Nobody that likes wrestling cares about your opinions, so no reason to give them.
And you are really ignorant and stupid if you don't think there are storylines and characters in UFC. Conor McGregor, Ronda Rousey, Jon Jones, Anderson Silva...Those guys aren't characters? Of course they are. Each PPV is bought based on the fights obviously, but because rivalries and storylines are a part of the sport. If you don't see that then wake up. Stop being ignorant.
We understand there are people who enjoy pro wrestling. That's fine. To post you only pay attn to a legit competition like the UFC when a WWE fighter gets involved is laughable though, especially considering the alternate reality in which the OP likes to have discussions with and criticize other posters.
You do realize Brock became UFC Heavyweight Champion coming from WWE, right? - Yeah, he was also cut by the Vikings. So what What's you're point? What can you say, the guy's a freak of nature. Kimbo Slice coming from the streets has a winning record too....
Anyone that clowns WWE is a clown. Those guys are some of the most athletic men and women in the world. - Nobody's saying they're not. You may want to re-read my original post.
Making fun of WWE is so boring and repetitive. - If it was real, nobody would be....
Nobody that likes wrestling cares about your opinions, so no reason to give them. - You're right. I guess the people that enjoy "The Kardashian" shows, or get off watching "2 Girls/1 Cup" could make the same argument
And you are really ignorant and stupid if you don't think there are storylines and characters in UFC. Conor McGregor, Ronda Rousey, Jon Jones, Anderson Silva...Those guys aren't characters? Of course they are. Each PPV is bought based on the fights obviously, but because rivalries and storylines are a part of the sport. If you don't see that then wake up. Stop being ignorant. - Much like any other sport's "Bad Boys", it's the real people talking trash, and trying to psych out their opponent - not made up characters and stories....Two words "Razor Ramon". The defense rests, your honor.....
Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:
You do realize Brock became UFC Heavyweight Champion coming from WWE, right? - Yeah, he was also cut by the Vikings. So what What's you're point? What can you say, the guy's a freak of nature. Kimbo Slice coming from the streets has a winning record too....
Anyone that clowns WWE is a clown. Those guys are some of the most athletic men and women in the world. - Nobody's saying they're not. You may want to re-read my original post.
Making fun of WWE is so boring and repetitive. - If it was real, nobody would be....
Nobody that likes wrestling cares about your opinions, so no reason to give them. - You're right. I guess the people that enjoy "The Kardashian" shows, or get off watching "2 Girls/1 Cup" could make the same argument
And you are really ignorant and stupid if you don't think there are storylines and characters in UFC. Conor McGregor, Ronda Rousey, Jon Jones, Anderson Silva...Those guys aren't characters? Of course they are. Each PPV is bought based on the fights obviously, but because rivalries and storylines are a part of the sport. If you don't see that then wake up. Stop being ignorant. - Much like any other sport's "Bad Boys", it's the real people talking trash, and trying to psych out their opponent - not made up characters and stories....Two words "Razor Ramon". The defense rests, your honor.....
Not sure why the stigma with pro wrestling still goes on in GD. It's only funny to same group of frat boys pushing each other into the bushes and laughing every time.
There is money to be made in pro wrestling. End of story.
Anyhow, love the input BWS and Jason.
But I'm sold on kjr's write-up simply because the line makes perfect sense based on what he wrote.
And I even forgot Brock lost his last two fights, as BwS noted and he was hampered by a sickness or otherwise.
Jason your argument about age and Lesnar's ability to catch him and ground and pound does scare me but I'm gonna have to take Hunt and the chalk for now.
I know he lost a LOT of weight and mass because of the sickness then he put it back on. I'm sure that building that back up had to take a lot away from his normal training. Honestly I'm just not sure he can compete with those upper echelon fighters anymore... he's 38 now. I know Hunt is 42 but that's a long time off for a guy at his age.
Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:
Not sure why the stigma with pro wrestling still goes on in GD. It's only funny to same group of frat boys pushing each other into the bushes and laughing every time.
There is money to be made in pro wrestling. End of story.
Anyhow, love the input BWS and Jason.
But I'm sold on kjr's write-up simply because the line makes perfect sense based on what he wrote.
And I even forgot Brock lost his last two fights, as BwS noted and he was hampered by a sickness or otherwise.
Jason your argument about age and Lesnar's ability to catch him and ground and pound does scare me but I'm gonna have to take Hunt and the chalk for now.
I know he lost a LOT of weight and mass because of the sickness then he put it back on. I'm sure that building that back up had to take a lot away from his normal training. Honestly I'm just not sure he can compete with those upper echelon fighters anymore... he's 38 now. I know Hunt is 42 but that's a long time off for a guy at his age.
We understand there are people who enjoy pro wrestling. That's fine. To post you only pay attn to a legit competition like the UFC when a WWE fighter gets involved is laughable though, especially considering the alternate reality in which the OP likes to have discussions with and criticize other posters.
This post isn't about whether I enjoy pro wrestling.
Brock Lesnar is the biggest star in the federation because he crossed over from the WWE TO the UFC.
He also is a world class wrestler in real life.
All of this affects the line I posted. Yes, the line, so I could solicit opinions on it and make money.
Wrestling fans gamble on wrestling and other sports. And there are millions of dedicated fans, and tens of millions more who are casual fans.
When they see Lesnar fighting for REAL (as you frat boys like to put it) an inevitable amount of square money, and a lot of it at that, will flow in on Lesnar JUST because of his worldwide WWE exposure and because he is regarded as legitimate in a scripted match and a non-scripted one.
That is why, knowing nothing about Hunt other than that he's not a top UFC star, I was shocked to see Lesnar open at +150.
The true line is probably around +200/+220 just based on the books padding themselves against too much Lesnar exposure (and based on the posts above, it wouldn't be a shock if he won), but that is just conjecture.
That is what makes Hunt an attractive option after reading this thread.
It isn't about my fandom. It's about whether this is a good bet. Got it? No? Ok, not surprised.
Quote Originally Posted by thecentaur:
We understand there are people who enjoy pro wrestling. That's fine. To post you only pay attn to a legit competition like the UFC when a WWE fighter gets involved is laughable though, especially considering the alternate reality in which the OP likes to have discussions with and criticize other posters.
This post isn't about whether I enjoy pro wrestling.
Brock Lesnar is the biggest star in the federation because he crossed over from the WWE TO the UFC.
He also is a world class wrestler in real life.
All of this affects the line I posted. Yes, the line, so I could solicit opinions on it and make money.
Wrestling fans gamble on wrestling and other sports. And there are millions of dedicated fans, and tens of millions more who are casual fans.
When they see Lesnar fighting for REAL (as you frat boys like to put it) an inevitable amount of square money, and a lot of it at that, will flow in on Lesnar JUST because of his worldwide WWE exposure and because he is regarded as legitimate in a scripted match and a non-scripted one.
That is why, knowing nothing about Hunt other than that he's not a top UFC star, I was shocked to see Lesnar open at +150.
The true line is probably around +200/+220 just based on the books padding themselves against too much Lesnar exposure (and based on the posts above, it wouldn't be a shock if he won), but that is just conjecture.
That is what makes Hunt an attractive option after reading this thread.
It isn't about my fandom. It's about whether this is a good bet. Got it? No? Ok, not surprised.
I know he lost a LOT of weight and mass because of the sickness then he put it back on. I'm sure that building that back up had to take a lot away from his normal training. Honestly I'm just not sure he can compete with those upper echelon fighters anymore... he's 38 now. I know Hunt is 42 but that's a long time off for a guy at his age.
He looked pretty beefy to me in those fights. When he came back to the WWE, you should have seen how out of shape (for his standards) he was then.
38 year old vs. a 42 year old isn't all that bad!
I wonder if Tank Abbot could have beaten Brock.
Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:
I know he lost a LOT of weight and mass because of the sickness then he put it back on. I'm sure that building that back up had to take a lot away from his normal training. Honestly I'm just not sure he can compete with those upper echelon fighters anymore... he's 38 now. I know Hunt is 42 but that's a long time off for a guy at his age.
He looked pretty beefy to me in those fights. When he came back to the WWE, you should have seen how out of shape (for his standards) he was then.
This post isn't about whether I enjoy pro wrestling.
Brock Lesnar is the biggest star in the federation because he crossed over from the WWE TO the UFC.
He also is a world class wrestler in real life.
All of this affects the line I posted. Yes, the line, so I could solicit opinions on it and make money.
Wrestling fans gamble on wrestling and other sports. And there are millions of dedicated fans, and tens of millions more who are casual fans.
When they see Lesnar fighting for REAL (as you frat boys like to put it) an inevitable amount of square money, and a lot of it at that, will flow in on Lesnar JUST because of his worldwide WWE exposure and because he is regarded as legitimate in a scripted match and a non-scripted one.
That is why, knowing nothing about Hunt other than that he's not a top UFC star, I was shocked to see Lesnar open at +150.
The true line is probably around +200/+220 just based on the books padding themselves against too much Lesnar exposure (and based on the posts above, it wouldn't be a shock if he won), but that is just conjecture.
That is what makes Hunt an attractive option after reading this thread.
It isn't about my fandom. It's about whether this is a good bet. Got it? No? Ok, not surprised.
Several paragraphs of vomit explaining why you don't think 2+2=4
"I do not watch UFC, but when the biggest star in pro wrestling crosses over, I pay attention." -Scalabrine 6/10/2016
That's like saying you aren't interested in ladies, but when a hot guy dresses up as one you pay attention...ok bad example
Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:
This post isn't about whether I enjoy pro wrestling.
Brock Lesnar is the biggest star in the federation because he crossed over from the WWE TO the UFC.
He also is a world class wrestler in real life.
All of this affects the line I posted. Yes, the line, so I could solicit opinions on it and make money.
Wrestling fans gamble on wrestling and other sports. And there are millions of dedicated fans, and tens of millions more who are casual fans.
When they see Lesnar fighting for REAL (as you frat boys like to put it) an inevitable amount of square money, and a lot of it at that, will flow in on Lesnar JUST because of his worldwide WWE exposure and because he is regarded as legitimate in a scripted match and a non-scripted one.
That is why, knowing nothing about Hunt other than that he's not a top UFC star, I was shocked to see Lesnar open at +150.
The true line is probably around +200/+220 just based on the books padding themselves against too much Lesnar exposure (and based on the posts above, it wouldn't be a shock if he won), but that is just conjecture.
That is what makes Hunt an attractive option after reading this thread.
It isn't about my fandom. It's about whether this is a good bet. Got it? No? Ok, not surprised.
Several paragraphs of vomit explaining why you don't think 2+2=4
"I do not watch UFC, but when the biggest star in pro wrestling crosses over, I pay attention." -Scalabrine 6/10/2016
That's like saying you aren't interested in ladies, but when a hot guy dresses up as one you pay attention...ok bad example
Anyone's opinion differ on this fight since the time of posting?
Hunt is now -165.
I watched hunt fight after posting this. His ground game is nonexistent but his punching power is through the roof. I guess we hope, when Brock comes inside, he'll land a haymaker?
Question: Is there any chance Silva can win? When I say 'any' I mean it within reason. We know anything can happen but if it's less than a 5% chance, I'm fine eating chalk.
Cormier is going off at -485 but if Silva has zero chance, I'll just throw that in as a parlay. Just wanted confirmation from others.
Anyone's opinion differ on this fight since the time of posting?
Hunt is now -165.
I watched hunt fight after posting this. His ground game is nonexistent but his punching power is through the roof. I guess we hope, when Brock comes inside, he'll land a haymaker?
Question: Is there any chance Silva can win? When I say 'any' I mean it within reason. We know anything can happen but if it's less than a 5% chance, I'm fine eating chalk.
Cormier is going off at -485 but if Silva has zero chance, I'll just throw that in as a parlay. Just wanted confirmation from others.
Well, he lost his last 2 fights in the first round which were in 2010 and 2011 so he has some rust for sure.... Hunt is 3-3-1 last 7 fights over the last 3 years and all 3 losses were to really good competition. He also just fought in March KO'ing Frank Mir.
Lesnar was somewhat timid in his return from his bout with diverticulitis in those fights. It'll be interesting to see what happens... personally I don't think he will be in good enough shape to go past 1 round, so he needs to end it quickly otherwise he's gonna wear out and lose
Good post. Your right on in about everything you said. It isn't really that big of a fight lesnar is 5-3 and hunt is 12-10. They are average mma competitors at best. Lesnar is 38 Mark Hunt is 42. That being said I don't watch it either and I don't have any doubt like pro wrestling the outcome is predetermined. Lesnar hasn't taken much seriously in his pro career he went from pro wrestling, to trying to make an nfl team, to pro wrestling, to mma, to pro wrestler and part time mma fighter. Mark Hunt is accusing him of being on steroids to and they aren't testing him. Don't know who will win and it doesn't really matter to me.
Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:
Well, he lost his last 2 fights in the first round which were in 2010 and 2011 so he has some rust for sure.... Hunt is 3-3-1 last 7 fights over the last 3 years and all 3 losses were to really good competition. He also just fought in March KO'ing Frank Mir.
Lesnar was somewhat timid in his return from his bout with diverticulitis in those fights. It'll be interesting to see what happens... personally I don't think he will be in good enough shape to go past 1 round, so he needs to end it quickly otherwise he's gonna wear out and lose
Good post. Your right on in about everything you said. It isn't really that big of a fight lesnar is 5-3 and hunt is 12-10. They are average mma competitors at best. Lesnar is 38 Mark Hunt is 42. That being said I don't watch it either and I don't have any doubt like pro wrestling the outcome is predetermined. Lesnar hasn't taken much seriously in his pro career he went from pro wrestling, to trying to make an nfl team, to pro wrestling, to mma, to pro wrestler and part time mma fighter. Mark Hunt is accusing him of being on steroids to and they aren't testing him. Don't know who will win and it doesn't really matter to me.
I was afraid of Hunt's physique BWS but he appears to look more like than not in his other fights (and again, his other fights weren't all that impressive). Then the age issue took center stage as well. Then this got bumped to the Main Event.
Not sure how books opened this at +150 with all this crossover appeal and I'm not sure how wrestling fans (who idolize Brock as legitimate in ring and out) didn't drive this line down all month. Maybe they don't gamble!
Then Nunez won as a +180/+200 dog which had even more value.
Lots of money to be made last night by sharp dog bettors as is usually the case!
Lastly, if you refuse to believe it: Brock is definitely on performance enhancers. For the UFC not to test him is a crime and it is thoroughly hypocritical for Brock to defame Jones' failed drug test as irresponsible. All the markers of steroid use are in Brock's physique. Not saying that won him the fight though but there is a reason for taking them.
Good opinions throughout.
I was afraid of Hunt's physique BWS but he appears to look more like than not in his other fights (and again, his other fights weren't all that impressive). Then the age issue took center stage as well. Then this got bumped to the Main Event.
Not sure how books opened this at +150 with all this crossover appeal and I'm not sure how wrestling fans (who idolize Brock as legitimate in ring and out) didn't drive this line down all month. Maybe they don't gamble!
Then Nunez won as a +180/+200 dog which had even more value.
Lots of money to be made last night by sharp dog bettors as is usually the case!
Lastly, if you refuse to believe it: Brock is definitely on performance enhancers. For the UFC not to test him is a crime and it is thoroughly hypocritical for Brock to defame Jones' failed drug test as irresponsible. All the markers of steroid use are in Brock's physique. Not saying that won him the fight though but there is a reason for taking them.
I was afraid of Hunt's physique BWS but he appears to look more like than not in his other fights (and again, his other fights weren't all that impressive). Then the age issue took center stage as well. Then this got bumped to the Main Event.
Not sure how books opened this at +150 with all this crossover appeal and I'm not sure how wrestling fans (who idolize Brock as legitimate in ring and out) didn't drive this line down all month. Maybe they don't gamble!
Then Nunez won as a +180/+200 dog which had even more value.
Lots of money to be made last night by sharp dog bettors as is usually the case!
Lastly, if you refuse to believe it: Brock is definitely on performance enhancers. For the UFC not to test him is a crime and it is thoroughly hypocritical for Brock to defame Jones' failed drug test as irresponsible. All the markers of steroid use are in Brock's physique. Not saying that won him the fight though but there is a reason for taking them.
I would like to hear what Brocks game plan was .... I liked how he worked hard in the first, then almost used the 2nd round to rest up for a punishing 3rd. Great points made throughout by the announcers about how Brock felt robbed of his MMA career because of the illness and also after the fight talking about how he had changed with his very humble victory interview. It will be interesting to see how he fares with a step up in competition, but he proved that he can still be dominant on the ground
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Good opinions throughout.
I was afraid of Hunt's physique BWS but he appears to look more like than not in his other fights (and again, his other fights weren't all that impressive). Then the age issue took center stage as well. Then this got bumped to the Main Event.
Not sure how books opened this at +150 with all this crossover appeal and I'm not sure how wrestling fans (who idolize Brock as legitimate in ring and out) didn't drive this line down all month. Maybe they don't gamble!
Then Nunez won as a +180/+200 dog which had even more value.
Lots of money to be made last night by sharp dog bettors as is usually the case!
Lastly, if you refuse to believe it: Brock is definitely on performance enhancers. For the UFC not to test him is a crime and it is thoroughly hypocritical for Brock to defame Jones' failed drug test as irresponsible. All the markers of steroid use are in Brock's physique. Not saying that won him the fight though but there is a reason for taking them.
I would like to hear what Brocks game plan was .... I liked how he worked hard in the first, then almost used the 2nd round to rest up for a punishing 3rd. Great points made throughout by the announcers about how Brock felt robbed of his MMA career because of the illness and also after the fight talking about how he had changed with his very humble victory interview. It will be interesting to see how he fares with a step up in competition, but he proved that he can still be dominant on the ground
I often look for your posts on lines you feel are off in an attempt to make a little money on sports I'm not as familiar with. I loved your thread on the hot dog eating contest and made some good money as a result. Even though this one didn't hit, it seemed to me like the thought process was correct. Is it possible the money from wrestling fans was evened out by actual mma bettors on Hunt? Just trying to sort out what might have happened so we can be prepared if a similar situation arises in the future.
I guess my question is really - looking back, do you think Hunt was a smart bet and we just go unlucky (Brock being in great shape, Hunt not being as prepared as expected etc.)? Or do you think there was something missed in the line analysis assuming that wwe bettors would essentially be betting Brock blindly?
Hey Scal, thanks for posting this thread.
I often look for your posts on lines you feel are off in an attempt to make a little money on sports I'm not as familiar with. I loved your thread on the hot dog eating contest and made some good money as a result. Even though this one didn't hit, it seemed to me like the thought process was correct. Is it possible the money from wrestling fans was evened out by actual mma bettors on Hunt? Just trying to sort out what might have happened so we can be prepared if a similar situation arises in the future.
I guess my question is really - looking back, do you think Hunt was a smart bet and we just go unlucky (Brock being in great shape, Hunt not being as prepared as expected etc.)? Or do you think there was something missed in the line analysis assuming that wwe bettors would essentially be betting Brock blindly?
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