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    Why are so many people "afraid" of Trump?

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    bigvern1013
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2016 - 9:11 AM ET #1

    It seems everyday I hear talking heads, celebrities, or politicians state that Trump is "dangerous for America." Savage attacks are the norm nearly all hours of the day.....

    The three most common attacks on Trump:

    1) He's a racist

    2) His temperament is not presidential

    3) He is a liar

    I have no idea what kind of president Trump will be...no idea at all. But, he is not a politician. And, on a grand scale, pretty much everyone in the US hates politicians.

    So, where is the disconnect? Why all the hate? Why not just ignore the guy and "whip" him in the general election?

    Answer: Because it doesn't look to be that easy.....and politics as usual is in big trouble in the US.

    That fact troubles a lot of people that love government the way it is and make their living sucking off of public coffers. It is important to realize that media producers, reporters, and talking heads all eat dinner at the same restaurants as Congress...it really is one big club where your rank is determined by how much money and power you have. A guy like Trump owns the restaurant....and most of the beltway hates him for it.

    That is why the attacks on Trump are so telling of the attacker....Washington types have always wanted to be able to say what they want and do what they want, but have had to chew down shitttsandwichh after shittttsandwichh in order to keep their jobs. Must be exhausting.

    So, that is where the attacks are coming from, and why they are so savage. Both the republicans and democrats are complicit and function as one with mainstream media outlets. It is the establishment trying to keep their jobs. Simple as that.

    The truth is, Hillary is far more dangerous than Trump. She really does see herself in the mold of Mao, and has no qualms about leading the US on fools errand after fools errand to establish a legacy. She is no good......not for America, not for anyone but Hillary. If you doubt this claim, do some research and take a good look into her past affiliations.

    Trump will likely delegate authority and go on vacation....Hillary will likely lead a crusade. Few people are more dangerous than a crusader whom is part of the global elite.......just sayin'.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    It seems everyday I hear talking heads, celebrities, or politicians state that Trump is "dangerous for America." Savage attacks are the norm nearly all hours of the day.....

    The three most common attacks on Trump:

    1) He's a racist

    2) His temperament is not presidential

    3) He is a liar

    I have no idea what kind of president Trump will be...no idea at all. But, he is not a politician. And, on a grand scale, pretty much everyone in the US hates politicians.

    So, where is the disconnect? Why all the hate? Why not just ignore the guy and "whip" him in the general election?

    Answer: Because it doesn't look to be that easy.....and politics as usual is in big trouble in the US.

    That fact troubles a lot of people that love government the way it is and make their living sucking off of public coffers. It is important to realize that media producers, reporters, and talking heads all eat dinner at the same restaurants as Congress...it really is one big club where your rank is determined by how much money and power you have. A guy like Trump owns the restaurant....and most of the beltway hates him for it.

    That is why the attacks on Trump are so telling of the attacker....Washington types have always wanted to be able to say what they want and do what they want, but have had to chew down shitttsandwichh after shittttsandwichh in order to keep their jobs. Must be exhausting.

    So, that is where the attacks are coming from, and why they are so savage. Both the republicans and democrats are complicit and function as one with mainstream media outlets. It is the establishment trying to keep their jobs. Simple as that.

    The truth is, Hillary is far more dangerous than Trump. She really does see herself in the mold of Mao, and has no qualms about leading the US on fools errand after fools errand to establish a legacy. She is no good......not for America, not for anyone but Hillary. If you doubt this claim, do some research and take a good look into her past affiliations.

    Trump will likely delegate authority and go on vacation....Hillary will likely lead a crusade. Few people are more dangerous than a crusader whom is part of the global elite.......just sayin'.

     
    GimmeMoneyNow
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2016 - 10:27 AM ET #2

    See, Trump is never not gonna be Trump - and ultimately that's going to be his downfall. He had the charisma and the likeability factor, and he could've rallied around that "I'm not a politician" theme, but ultimately "The Donald" just can't tone it down, even just a little. And with every new "We're building a wall" statement, or going on Twitter to bash someone like a 12 year old girl would, or calling women/hispanics/muslims names, he loses that much more credibility as someone who could run the country, and becomes that much closer to a Kardashian or a 'D' list reality T.V. star.....

    Now with Hillary, whether you agree with her or not, you're getting a well oiled political "machine". They've turned the name 'Clinton' into a political brand, almost like 'Kennedy'. I think everyone looks at her and thinks, "O.K., that's a politician. I feel a little safer with America her hands." 
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    See, Trump is never not gonna be Trump - and ultimately that's going to be his downfall. He had the charisma and the likeability factor, and he could've rallied around that "I'm not a politician" theme, but ultimately "The Donald" just can't tone it down, even just a little. And with every new "We're building a wall" statement, or going on Twitter to bash someone like a 12 year old girl would, or calling women/hispanics/muslims names, he loses that much more credibility as someone who could run the country, and becomes that much closer to a Kardashian or a 'D' list reality T.V. star.....

    Now with Hillary, whether you agree with her or not, you're getting a well oiled political "machine". They've turned the name 'Clinton' into a political brand, almost like 'Kennedy'. I think everyone looks at her and thinks, "O.K., that's a politician. I feel a little safer with America her hands." 
     
    bigvern1013
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2016 - 10:59 AM ET #3

    gimme-

    I agree with your thoughts on Clinton being a product of brand recognition. Good point.

    As for Trump, I think that him "going over the top" all of the time is part of the plan. He has shown to be a master of keeping his name on everyone's tongue....and it is working.

    He is not interested in spending a fortune on political ads and measured communication....he is from the "no press is the only bad press" school of thought...get the headline first, and then go to work on getting elected. It has worked so far....

    If I had to guess the Trump camp does not care at all about the early stages of this GE campaign. They want to lay the big wood during the debates. After all, those are free and will go a long way toward deciding the election.

    Personally, I have a hunch that there may be no presidential debates. It is a big risk for Clinton...she is no good off of the cuff, and has everything to lose...Trump has nothing to lose in that situation. I will be surprised if her people let her take that chance.

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    gimme-

    I agree with your thoughts on Clinton being a product of brand recognition. Good point.

    As for Trump, I think that him "going over the top" all of the time is part of the plan. He has shown to be a master of keeping his name on everyone's tongue....and it is working.

    He is not interested in spending a fortune on political ads and measured communication....he is from the "no press is the only bad press" school of thought...get the headline first, and then go to work on getting elected. It has worked so far....

    If I had to guess the Trump camp does not care at all about the early stages of this GE campaign. They want to lay the big wood during the debates. After all, those are free and will go a long way toward deciding the election.

    Personally, I have a hunch that there may be no presidential debates. It is a big risk for Clinton...she is no good off of the cuff, and has everything to lose...Trump has nothing to lose in that situation. I will be surprised if her people let her take that chance.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2016 - 1:31 PM ET #4

    I made this remark before, and BWS said it was "the stupidest post of year."  

    During the debate, I think he will make her cry; at least on the inside.  She is going to get destroyed, and it will demonstrate to the entire country how weak she is.  
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    I made this remark before, and BWS said it was "the stupidest post of year."  

    During the debate, I think he will make her cry; at least on the inside.  She is going to get destroyed, and it will demonstrate to the entire country how weak she is.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:

    I made this remark before, and BWS said it was "the stupidest post of year."  

    During the debate, I think he will make her cry; at least on the inside.  She is going to get destroyed, and it will demonstrate to the entire country how weak she is.  

    If he plays hardball and goes after her on the basis of record, reputation, and history.

    The debates are a layup for Trump IF he is aggressive and gets after it like the speech yesterday attacking her character.

    He clinches the presidency if he looks her straight in the eye and makes the following statement: "If I am elected president, I will pursue a conviction of treason against you, Hillary Clinton."

    Landslide vote.....that is why I will be surprised if Hillary gets on that stage...huge stakes.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:

    I made this remark before, and BWS said it was "the stupidest post of year."  

    During the debate, I think he will make her cry; at least on the inside.  She is going to get destroyed, and it will demonstrate to the entire country how weak she is.  

    If he plays hardball and goes after her on the basis of record, reputation, and history.

    The debates are a layup for Trump IF he is aggressive and gets after it like the speech yesterday attacking her character.

    He clinches the presidency if he looks her straight in the eye and makes the following statement: "If I am elected president, I will pursue a conviction of treason against you, Hillary Clinton."

    Landslide vote.....that is why I will be surprised if Hillary gets on that stage...huge stakes.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2016 - 2:23 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:

    I made this remark before, and BWS said it was "the stupidest post of year."  

    During the debate, I think he will make her cry; at least on the inside.  She is going to get destroyed, and it will demonstrate to the entire country how weak she is.  

    Actually I believe the remark you are referring to is 'anyone who votes vote Clinton should have their man card revoked'.     



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    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:

    I made this remark before, and BWS said it was "the stupidest post of year."  

    During the debate, I think he will make her cry; at least on the inside.  She is going to get destroyed, and it will demonstrate to the entire country how weak she is.  

    Actually I believe the remark you are referring to is 'anyone who votes vote Clinton should have their man card revoked'.     



     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2016 - 2:25 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by GimmeMoneyNow:

    See, Trump is never not gonna be Trump - and ultimately that's going to be his downfall. He had the charisma and the likeability factor, and he could've rallied around that "I'm not a politician" theme, but ultimately "The Donald" just can't tone it down, even just a little. And with every new "We're building a wall" statement, or going on Twitter to bash someone like a 12 year old girl would, or calling women/hispanics/muslims names, he loses that much more credibility as someone who could run the country, and becomes that much closer to a Kardashian or a 'D' list reality T.V. star.....

    Now with Hillary, whether you agree with her or not, you're getting a well oiled political "machine". They've turned the name 'Clinton' into a political brand, almost like 'Kennedy'. I think everyone looks at her and thinks, "O.K., that's a politician. I feel a little safer with America her hands." 


    This.


    Like it or not...  the office of the President is a job for a politician.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by GimmeMoneyNow:

    See, Trump is never not gonna be Trump - and ultimately that's going to be his downfall. He had the charisma and the likeability factor, and he could've rallied around that "I'm not a politician" theme, but ultimately "The Donald" just can't tone it down, even just a little. And with every new "We're building a wall" statement, or going on Twitter to bash someone like a 12 year old girl would, or calling women/hispanics/muslims names, he loses that much more credibility as someone who could run the country, and becomes that much closer to a Kardashian or a 'D' list reality T.V. star.....

    Now with Hillary, whether you agree with her or not, you're getting a well oiled political "machine". They've turned the name 'Clinton' into a political brand, almost like 'Kennedy'. I think everyone looks at her and thinks, "O.K., that's a politician. I feel a little safer with America her hands." 


    This.


    Like it or not...  the office of the President is a job for a politician.  
     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2016 - 2:36 PM ET #8

    I'm not pro Trump nor anti Trump but the picture Trump is selling to people of how America will be during his reign seems borderline too good to be true. Of course Americans want a President who doesn't sit on the fence like Obama on big issues but who's to say the real string pullers in the White House don't neutralize Trump if he gets elected? Then in 3/4 years time you lot are complaining about Trump the same way you have complained about Obama, There is no perfect President or Politician, They're all as bad as each other in my book.
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    I'm not pro Trump nor anti Trump but the picture Trump is selling to people of how America will be during his reign seems borderline too good to be true. Of course Americans want a President who doesn't sit on the fence like Obama on big issues but who's to say the real string pullers in the White House don't neutralize Trump if he gets elected? Then in 3/4 years time you lot are complaining about Trump the same way you have complained about Obama, There is no perfect President or Politician, They're all as bad as each other in my book.
     
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    He has small hands and could possibly be a person.
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    He has small hands and could possibly be a person.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2016 - 3:40 PM ET #10

    Lol
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    Lol
     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2016 - 3:59 PM ET #11

    It's less about people being afraid and more about the opportunity for some people to throw their joker race card around and feel all warm inside about themselves
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    It's less about people being afraid and more about the opportunity for some people to throw their joker race card around and feel all warm inside about themselves
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    Actually I believe the remark you are referring to is 'anyone who votes vote Clinton should have their man card revoked'.     




    Oh snap, I made both comments in the same post.  

    Man card revoked indeed 

    It's not that because she's a woman, I put Obama voters in the same category.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    Actually I believe the remark you are referring to is 'anyone who votes vote Clinton should have their man card revoked'.     




    Oh snap, I made both comments in the same post.  

    Man card revoked indeed 

    It's not that because she's a woman, I put Obama voters in the same category.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

    If he plays hardball and goes after her on the basis of record, reputation, and history.

    The debates are a layup for Trump IF he is aggressive and gets after it like the speech yesterday attacking her character.

    He clinches the presidency if he looks her straight in the eye and makes the following statement: "If I am elected president, I will pursue a conviction of treason against you, Hillary Clinton."

    Landslide vote.....that is why I will be surprised if Hillary gets on that stage...huge stakes.

     

      Gawd I'd love to see that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

    If he plays hardball and goes after her on the basis of record, reputation, and history.

    The debates are a layup for Trump IF he is aggressive and gets after it like the speech yesterday attacking her character.

    He clinches the presidency if he looks her straight in the eye and makes the following statement: "If I am elected president, I will pursue a conviction of treason against you, Hillary Clinton."

    Landslide vote.....that is why I will be surprised if Hillary gets on that stage...huge stakes.

     

      Gawd I'd love to see that.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:


    Oh snap, I made both comments in the same post.  

    Man card revoked indeed 

    It's not that because she's a woman, I put Obama voters in the same category.  


    This isn't you is it?   Seems like Jersey dude....


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ups4FeSuHvY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:


    Oh snap, I made both comments in the same post.  

    Man card revoked indeed 

    It's not that because she's a woman, I put Obama voters in the same category.  


    This isn't you is it?   Seems like Jersey dude....


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ups4FeSuHvY
     
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    Donald Trump spent his formidable years in military school. He was raised by some of the most hardcore WW2 vets that fought in both Europe anfdand the Pacific.  His a ss was kicked not only by his father but also by GI's and high rank officers.
    The man was brought up to be loyal, honest, compassionate, disciplined and driven to never fail. His father, by his own admission, was the most intense figure in his life by an inch.
    Very interesting read if you have the time. Trump was intensly disciplined to nothing but win and achieve greatness from very hardcore military influence / instructors in his young life. 

    Many people have no idea about his upbringing. 

    He'll win. Bank it.
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    Donald Trump spent his formidable years in military school. He was raised by some of the most hardcore WW2 vets that fought in both Europe anfdand the Pacific.  His a ss was kicked not only by his father but also by GI's and high rank officers.
    The man was brought up to be loyal, honest, compassionate, disciplined and driven to never fail. His father, by his own admission, was the most intense figure in his life by an inch.
    Very interesting read if you have the time. Trump was intensly disciplined to nothing but win and achieve greatness from very hardcore military influence / instructors in his young life. 

    Many people have no idea about his upbringing. 

    He'll win. Bank it.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2016 - 8:33 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:



    This isn't you is it?   Seems like Jersey dude....


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ups4FeSuHvY

    Yeah that's me, now make my phucking burrito!  

    Hahaha, that's terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:



    This isn't you is it?   Seems like Jersey dude....


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ups4FeSuHvY

    Yeah that's me, now make my phucking burrito!  

    Hahaha, that's terrible.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2016 - 9:24 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

    If he plays hardball and goes after her on the basis of record, reputation, and history.

    The debates are a layup for Trump IF he is aggressive and gets after it like the speech yesterday attacking her character.

    He clinches the presidency if he looks her straight in the eye and makes the following statement: "If I am elected president, I will pursue a conviction of treason against you, Hillary Clinton."

    Landslide vote.....that is why I will be surprised if Hillary gets on that stage...huge stakes.

     

    He should actually do just the opposite and say "If I'm elected President I will pardon you...because if I'm not elected President and you do win that bulldog Trey Gowdy is going to convict you and force your impeachment."

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

    If he plays hardball and goes after her on the basis of record, reputation, and history.

    The debates are a layup for Trump IF he is aggressive and gets after it like the speech yesterday attacking her character.

    He clinches the presidency if he looks her straight in the eye and makes the following statement: "If I am elected president, I will pursue a conviction of treason against you, Hillary Clinton."

    Landslide vote.....that is why I will be surprised if Hillary gets on that stage...huge stakes.

     

    He should actually do just the opposite and say "If I'm elected President I will pardon you...because if I'm not elected President and you do win that bulldog Trey Gowdy is going to convict you and force your impeachment."

     
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    Trump is all talk and hot air. No need to be afraid of him.


    I think his supporters are who we should be afraid of lol
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    Trump is all talk and hot air. No need to be afraid of him.


    I think his supporters are who we should be afraid of lol
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

    It seems everyday I hear talking heads, celebrities, or politicians state that Trump is "dangerous for America." Savage attacks are the norm nearly all hours of the day.....

    The three most common attacks on Trump:

    1) He's a racist

    2) His temperament is not presidential

    3) He is a liar

    I have no idea what kind of president Trump will be...no idea at all. But, he is not a politician. And, on a grand scale, pretty much everyone in the US hates politicians.

    So, where is the disconnect? Why all the hate? Why not just ignore the guy and "whip" him in the general election?

    Answer: Because it doesn't look to be that easy.....and politics as usual is in big trouble in the US.

    That fact troubles a lot of people that love government the way it is and make their living sucking off of public coffers. It is important to realize that media producers, reporters, and talking heads all eat dinner at the same restaurants as Congress...it really is one big club where your rank is determined by how much money and power you have. A guy like Trump owns the restaurant....and most of the beltway hates him for it.

    That is why the attacks on Trump are so telling of the attacker....Washington types have always wanted to be able to say what they want and do what they want, but have had to chew down shitttsandwichh after shittttsandwichh in order to keep their jobs. Must be exhausting.

    So, that is where the attacks are coming from, and why they are so savage. Both the republicans and democrats are complicit and function as one with mainstream media outlets. It is the establishment trying to keep their jobs. Simple as that.

    The truth is, Hillary is far more dangerous than Trump. She really does see herself in the mold of Mao, and has no qualms about leading the US on fools errand after fools errand to establish a legacy. She is no good......not for America, not for anyone but Hillary. If you doubt this claim, do some research and take a good look into her past affiliations.

    Trump will likely delegate authority and go on vacation....Hillary will likely lead a crusade. Few people are more dangerous than a crusader whom is part of the global elite.......just sayin'.


    Because from his public speeches, he is utterly clueless on the following concepts, despite claiming to know what they are:
    • How nuclear weapons are deployed
    • The constitutional protections of religious freedom, despite 240 years of law from the US Supreme Court
    • How to run a casino in a profitable manner (all of his have failed)
    • Basic trade deals and tariffs
    • Why Vladimir Putin's endorsement is not a good thing, and how when Putin is given an inch he takes a mile
    • How a motion for summary judgment works, despite having been involved in numerous lawsuits
    • He has no understanding of why it's bad to list a person's race as a reason for them doing something that you didn't like

    At the end of the day, the executive branch is essentially the federal enforce of the laws. Trump has no understanding of the law. So there's that. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

    It seems everyday I hear talking heads, celebrities, or politicians state that Trump is "dangerous for America." Savage attacks are the norm nearly all hours of the day.....

    The three most common attacks on Trump:

    1) He's a racist

    2) His temperament is not presidential

    3) He is a liar

    I have no idea what kind of president Trump will be...no idea at all. But, he is not a politician. And, on a grand scale, pretty much everyone in the US hates politicians.

    So, where is the disconnect? Why all the hate? Why not just ignore the guy and "whip" him in the general election?

    Answer: Because it doesn't look to be that easy.....and politics as usual is in big trouble in the US.

    That fact troubles a lot of people that love government the way it is and make their living sucking off of public coffers. It is important to realize that media producers, reporters, and talking heads all eat dinner at the same restaurants as Congress...it really is one big club where your rank is determined by how much money and power you have. A guy like Trump owns the restaurant....and most of the beltway hates him for it.

    That is why the attacks on Trump are so telling of the attacker....Washington types have always wanted to be able to say what they want and do what they want, but have had to chew down shitttsandwichh after shittttsandwichh in order to keep their jobs. Must be exhausting.

    So, that is where the attacks are coming from, and why they are so savage. Both the republicans and democrats are complicit and function as one with mainstream media outlets. It is the establishment trying to keep their jobs. Simple as that.

    The truth is, Hillary is far more dangerous than Trump. She really does see herself in the mold of Mao, and has no qualms about leading the US on fools errand after fools errand to establish a legacy. She is no good......not for America, not for anyone but Hillary. If you doubt this claim, do some research and take a good look into her past affiliations.

    Trump will likely delegate authority and go on vacation....Hillary will likely lead a crusade. Few people are more dangerous than a crusader whom is part of the global elite.......just sayin'.


    Because from his public speeches, he is utterly clueless on the following concepts, despite claiming to know what they are:
    • How nuclear weapons are deployed
    • The constitutional protections of religious freedom, despite 240 years of law from the US Supreme Court
    • How to run a casino in a profitable manner (all of his have failed)
    • Basic trade deals and tariffs
    • Why Vladimir Putin's endorsement is not a good thing, and how when Putin is given an inch he takes a mile
    • How a motion for summary judgment works, despite having been involved in numerous lawsuits
    • He has no understanding of why it's bad to list a person's race as a reason for them doing something that you didn't like

    At the end of the day, the executive branch is essentially the federal enforce of the laws. Trump has no understanding of the law. So there's that. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 24, 2016 - 12:05 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Trump is all talk and hot air. No need to be afraid of him.


    I think his supporters are who we should be afraid of lol

    Yeah, people that want American put first instead of behind every third world sh*thole on earth... His supporters work for a living, they're not looking for government handouts. Those are the people I'm afraid of, people that only are concerned with voting themselves a raise. You should read the b.s. you type once in a while, look in a mirror and ask yourself "Am I really this stupid"? If his supporters stopped working & paying taxes the country would cease to exist in weeks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Trump is all talk and hot air. No need to be afraid of him.


    I think his supporters are who we should be afraid of lol

    Yeah, people that want American put first instead of behind every third world sh*thole on earth... His supporters work for a living, they're not looking for government handouts. Those are the people I'm afraid of, people that only are concerned with voting themselves a raise. You should read the b.s. you type once in a while, look in a mirror and ask yourself "Am I really this stupid"? If his supporters stopped working & paying taxes the country would cease to exist in weeks...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Trump is all talk and hot air. No need to be afraid of him.


    I think his supporters are who we should be afraid of lol


    better study the history of Germany in the 1930's. back then another guy that was "all talk and hot air" was elected President March 5th 1933. democracy in that country ended soon after with the passing of The Enabling Act on March 23rd, 1933
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Trump is all talk and hot air. No need to be afraid of him.


    I think his supporters are who we should be afraid of lol


    better study the history of Germany in the 1930's. back then another guy that was "all talk and hot air" was elected President March 5th 1933. democracy in that country ended soon after with the passing of The Enabling Act on March 23rd, 1933
     
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    I'm sure Trump is going to take us back to the 1930s???? Hot air huh Rat? America is on life support, HRC will pull the plug, Trump has the right ideas to save it...

    Are you happy with terrorist attacks every month or 2 due to the insanity of who has been allowed to immigrate?
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    I'm sure Trump is going to take us back to the 1930s???? Hot air huh Rat? America is on life support, HRC will pull the plug, Trump has the right ideas to save it...

    Are you happy with terrorist attacks every month or 2 due to the insanity of who has been allowed to immigrate?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:


    Because from his public speeches, he is utterly clueless on the following concepts, despite claiming to know what they are:
    • How nuclear weapons are deployed
    • The constitutional protections of religious freedom, despite 240 years of law from the US Supreme Court
    • How to run a casino in a profitable manner (all of his have failed)
    • Basic trade deals and tariffs
    • Why Vladimir Putin's endorsement is not a good thing, and how when Putin is given an inch he takes a mile
    • How a motion for summary judgment works, despite having been involved in numerous lawsuits
    • He has no understanding of why it's bad to list a person's race as a reason for them doing something that you didn't like

    At the end of the day, the executive branch is essentially the federal enforce of the laws. Trump has no understanding of the law. So there's that. 

    Basic point/counterpoint. Counters are in red.

  • How nuclear weapons are deployed   This is the responsibility of military expertise. In addition, the method of deployment changes frequently in terms of logistics.
  • The constitutional protections of religious freedom, despite 240 years of law from the US Supreme Court. I would say that Hillary knows less about religious freedom. See IRS practices towards conservative Christian groups and also the manner in which her husband, Bill Clinton, executed an entire religious sect in Waco, TX.
  • How to run a casino in a profitable manner (all of his have failed) I would argue that going into these projects bankruptcy was a big part of the business strategy. To deem these projects "failures" is to assume that the plan was to benefit employees, and that they did not put money into corporate coffers.
  • Basic trade deals and tariffs This is rubbish. Is the US getting the best of these deals and agreements? Why should he accept business as usual when the country is going under? I assert that the US government needs to aggressively "restructure" our economic dealings with several counties, if for no other reason than to SURVIVE.
  • Why Vladimir Putin's endorsement is not a good thing, and how when Putin is given an inch he takes a mile Agreed Putin is making his play to make Russia a superpower again. But, I would argue that Putin has made huge strides toward this goal under Obama. Trump has a better chance of working with the Russians than against them, in that money will be the goal not legacy.
  • How a motion for summary judgment works, despite having been involved in numerous lawsuits This is semantics. I assure you, Trump will have experts in the field handling this sort of thing. Who really cares if he has a fluid understanding of legalese?
  • He has no understanding of why it's bad to list a person's race as a reason for them doing something that you didn't like Not even sure what this one means. However, if it means what I think it means, ask yourself why middle aged white males are the butt of every joke on television, the boogeyman of the man vs woman divide that the democrats are fostering, and deemed inherently racist.  It seems that being "white" has been deemed the reason behind every ill under the sun here in America....
  •  

    At the end of the day your reasons against Trump are weak. The truth is, you just don't like him. And that is ok.......but don't think that those reasons hold any water at all.....

    Never Make A Winner A Loser. Never.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:


    Because from his public speeches, he is utterly clueless on the following concepts, despite claiming to know what they are:
    • How nuclear weapons are deployed
    • The constitutional protections of religious freedom, despite 240 years of law from the US Supreme Court
    • How to run a casino in a profitable manner (all of his have failed)
    • Basic trade deals and tariffs
    • Why Vladimir Putin's endorsement is not a good thing, and how when Putin is given an inch he takes a mile
    • How a motion for summary judgment works, despite having been involved in numerous lawsuits
    • He has no understanding of why it's bad to list a person's race as a reason for them doing something that you didn't like

    At the end of the day, the executive branch is essentially the federal enforce of the laws. Trump has no understanding of the law. So there's that. 

    Basic point/counterpoint. Counters are in red.

  • How nuclear weapons are deployed   This is the responsibility of military expertise. In addition, the method of deployment changes frequently in terms of logistics.
  • The constitutional protections of religious freedom, despite 240 years of law from the US Supreme Court. I would say that Hillary knows less about religious freedom. See IRS practices towards conservative Christian groups and also the manner in which her husband, Bill Clinton, executed an entire religious sect in Waco, TX.
  • How to run a casino in a profitable manner (all of his have failed) I would argue that going into these projects bankruptcy was a big part of the business strategy. To deem these projects "failures" is to assume that the plan was to benefit employees, and that they did not put money into corporate coffers.
  • Basic trade deals and tariffs This is rubbish. Is the US getting the best of these deals and agreements? Why should he accept business as usual when the country is going under? I assert that the US government needs to aggressively "restructure" our economic dealings with several counties, if for no other reason than to SURVIVE.
  • Why Vladimir Putin's endorsement is not a good thing, and how when Putin is given an inch he takes a mile Agreed Putin is making his play to make Russia a superpower again. But, I would argue that Putin has made huge strides toward this goal under Obama. Trump has a better chance of working with the Russians than against them, in that money will be the goal not legacy.
  • How a motion for summary judgment works, despite having been involved in numerous lawsuits This is semantics. I assure you, Trump will have experts in the field handling this sort of thing. Who really cares if he has a fluid understanding of legalese?
  • He has no understanding of why it's bad to list a person's race as a reason for them doing something that you didn't like Not even sure what this one means. However, if it means what I think it means, ask yourself why middle aged white males are the butt of every joke on television, the boogeyman of the man vs woman divide that the democrats are fostering, and deemed inherently racist.  It seems that being "white" has been deemed the reason behind every ill under the sun here in America....
  •  

    At the end of the day your reasons against Trump are weak. The truth is, you just don't like him. And that is ok.......but don't think that those reasons hold any water at all.....

     
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    Posted: Jun. 24, 2016 - 2:27 PM ET #24

    Oh yeah, I almost forgot.....Trump isn't a lawyer. If you haven't checked yet, Congress is full of lawyers and that thing is broken beyond repair.

    So then there's that.....

    Never Make A Winner A Loser. Never.
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    Oh yeah, I almost forgot.....Trump isn't a lawyer. If you haven't checked yet, Congress is full of lawyers and that thing is broken beyond repair.

    So then there's that.....

     
     
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    Trump is clueless when it comes to anything outside of the US

    https://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/donald-trump-was-the-victim-of-some-vicious-british-insults-which-are-incredible-and-my-new-favorite-thing/
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    Trump is clueless when it comes to anything outside of the US

    https://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/donald-trump-was-the-victim-of-some-vicious-british-insults-which-are-incredible-and-my-new-favorite-thing/
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