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    What are some edges you've identified in your gambling career?

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    dl36
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2016 - 1:43 AM ET #26

    I don't know about free money but since the 90s I have found nfl Wong teasers to be my most profitable and consistent betting scheme. I applied the basics of the Wong teaser logic to 3 team 10 point and 4 team 13 point teasers also.
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    I don't know about free money but since the 90s I have found nfl Wong teasers to be my most profitable and consistent betting scheme. I applied the basics of the Wong teaser logic to 3 team 10 point and 4 team 13 point teasers also.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2016 - 10:38 AM ET #27

    One big one is on Bet365 tennis, if you are watching the stream and on a break point you place a bet immediately after the point is finished (have it ready in the betslip), as long as the odds don't cross over into arbitrage immediately, they will give you that bet. 
    ie. The odds are -250 for server and +175 for returner, if the returner breaks and the odds for the server only go to -175 (which is actually true odds), then they put the bet through. This essentially allows you to make an extra .50 on the dollar for all break points. Definitely good for later in the match with cash outs and arbitrage.

    The way I made most of my money betting on tennis is focusing on Futures (lowest level) tournaments. When any favourite that is -500 to -1000 loses the first set, they are usually between +150 and -200 depending on the score of the set. As long as there are no injuries, reasons for them not to try (ie. better tourney next week) or other extenuating circumstances, I have found these bets to hit at about 80%. One summer I only looked for these bets and was up a solid 30k in three months, betting between $100-$500 each bet.
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    One big one is on Bet365 tennis, if you are watching the stream and on a break point you place a bet immediately after the point is finished (have it ready in the betslip), as long as the odds don't cross over into arbitrage immediately, they will give you that bet. 
    ie. The odds are -250 for server and +175 for returner, if the returner breaks and the odds for the server only go to -175 (which is actually true odds), then they put the bet through. This essentially allows you to make an extra .50 on the dollar for all break points. Definitely good for later in the match with cash outs and arbitrage.

    The way I made most of my money betting on tennis is focusing on Futures (lowest level) tournaments. When any favourite that is -500 to -1000 loses the first set, they are usually between +150 and -200 depending on the score of the set. As long as there are no injuries, reasons for them not to try (ie. better tourney next week) or other extenuating circumstances, I have found these bets to hit at about 80%. One summer I only looked for these bets and was up a solid 30k in three months, betting between $100-$500 each bet.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2016 - 4:20 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I love this topic...

    Back in the day - between 1998 and 2005 - there were edges EVERYWHERE.  It wasn't low hanging fruit that needed to be picked, the fruit was on the ground everywhere.

    This was when Neteller was king and you could move 10k from book to book in a minute or less.  Monitor the screens at over 30 books for arbitrage and hit it quickly.

    These days it is more uncommon.  But there is one interesting one - told to me by a buddy of mine who has much more patience than me....   In South Florida they dont allow craps (yet), but they do allow these bubble machines that look like that old board game Trouble.  It is basically craps where the machine rolls two giant dice in a bubble.

    He figured out that you could bet pass and dont pass at the same time, and earn comps on both - but the key was that the comps were WAY out of whack.  This was when they first introduced these machines.  No casino gives you comps on odds wagers at craps (because it is even money) but this place did.

    The comps way outweighed the risk of losing on a 12 on the come out roll.  So he did this for like a month, lost like 1k on the bubble, but got like 8k in comps.

    Outside of gambling I have done these edges in airline / CC points.  Google "manufactured spending".  If you have good credit, you can rack up millions of miles in points for tens of thousands of dollars in travel.  And patience.  I got about a million points (miles) last year for really doing not much extra.

     

    Loved that bubble craps. Bubble baccarat ain't too shabby either. You could take free plays they gave you in MD. have one person bet player and the other banker and guarantee yourself money. You'd prefer player obviously to avoid the 5% vig, but not bad and guaranteed money. Tie hand everyone happy too.

     The all time best is the bubble horse racing I played in Argentina. Bunch of degenerates watching plastic horses going around one of those old school usa vs. ussr hockey tables. Mendoza Argentina if you ever get the chance. Worth it to watch these people yelling over 25 cent bets at a two inch horse on a lollipop stick literally inching around the track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I love this topic...

    Back in the day - between 1998 and 2005 - there were edges EVERYWHERE.  It wasn't low hanging fruit that needed to be picked, the fruit was on the ground everywhere.

    This was when Neteller was king and you could move 10k from book to book in a minute or less.  Monitor the screens at over 30 books for arbitrage and hit it quickly.

    These days it is more uncommon.  But there is one interesting one - told to me by a buddy of mine who has much more patience than me....   In South Florida they dont allow craps (yet), but they do allow these bubble machines that look like that old board game Trouble.  It is basically craps where the machine rolls two giant dice in a bubble.

    He figured out that you could bet pass and dont pass at the same time, and earn comps on both - but the key was that the comps were WAY out of whack.  This was when they first introduced these machines.  No casino gives you comps on odds wagers at craps (because it is even money) but this place did.

    The comps way outweighed the risk of losing on a 12 on the come out roll.  So he did this for like a month, lost like 1k on the bubble, but got like 8k in comps.

    Outside of gambling I have done these edges in airline / CC points.  Google "manufactured spending".  If you have good credit, you can rack up millions of miles in points for tens of thousands of dollars in travel.  And patience.  I got about a million points (miles) last year for really doing not much extra.

     

    Loved that bubble craps. Bubble baccarat ain't too shabby either. You could take free plays they gave you in MD. have one person bet player and the other banker and guarantee yourself money. You'd prefer player obviously to avoid the 5% vig, but not bad and guaranteed money. Tie hand everyone happy too.

     The all time best is the bubble horse racing I played in Argentina. Bunch of degenerates watching plastic horses going around one of those old school usa vs. ussr hockey tables. Mendoza Argentina if you ever get the chance. Worth it to watch these people yelling over 25 cent bets at a two inch horse on a lollipop stick literally inching around the track.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2016 - 9:26 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

     

    Loved that bubble craps. Bubble baccarat ain't too shabby either. You could take free plays they gave you in MD. have one person bet player and the other banker and guarantee yourself money. You'd prefer player obviously to avoid the 5% vig, but not bad and guaranteed money. Tie hand everyone happy too.

     The all time best is the bubble horse racing I played in Argentina. Bunch of degenerates watching plastic horses going around one of those old school usa vs. ussr hockey tables. Mendoza Argentina if you ever get the chance. Worth it to watch these people yelling over 25 cent bets at a two inch horse on a lollipop stick literally inching around the track.

    Sigma Derby is the name of the game.Still one in operation upstairs at the D in Vegas but things change daily..Only edge to find at that machine is to milk free drinks at .25 bets.and once in awhile the longshot exacta hits..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

     

    Loved that bubble craps. Bubble baccarat ain't too shabby either. You could take free plays they gave you in MD. have one person bet player and the other banker and guarantee yourself money. You'd prefer player obviously to avoid the 5% vig, but not bad and guaranteed money. Tie hand everyone happy too.

     The all time best is the bubble horse racing I played in Argentina. Bunch of degenerates watching plastic horses going around one of those old school usa vs. ussr hockey tables. Mendoza Argentina if you ever get the chance. Worth it to watch these people yelling over 25 cent bets at a two inch horse on a lollipop stick literally inching around the track.

    Sigma Derby is the name of the game.Still one in operation upstairs at the D in Vegas but things change daily..Only edge to find at that machine is to milk free drinks at .25 bets.and once in awhile the longshot exacta hits..

     
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2016 - 9:42 PM ET #30

    Cool story about the Sigma Derby

    https://www.bandergrove.com/2008/02/sigma-derby-vintage-horse-racing-ambrosia/

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    Cool story about the Sigma Derby

    https://www.bandergrove.com/2008/02/sigma-derby-vintage-horse-racing-ambrosia/

     
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2016 - 9:43 PM ET #31

    Edge I am recently learning is money line. If money is being wagered heavy on a team the line should move to make betters choose the other team if then it doesn't or actually moves in the an adverse direction to reality then the weaker side will win with a high probability.
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    Edge I am recently learning is money line. If money is being wagered heavy on a team the line should move to make betters choose the other team if then it doesn't or actually moves in the an adverse direction to reality then the weaker side will win with a high probability.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2016 - 9:43 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    I don't know about free money but since the 90s I have found nfl Wong teasers to be my most profitable and consistent betting scheme. I applied the basics of the Wong teaser logic to 3 team 10 point and 4 team 13 point teasers also.

    Teasers - biggest sucker bet in the world - I'm not surprised you'd be on them. I got your Wong right here Debbie...

    The Obama System is 75%, best system in Handicapping. I'm hoping he opens a service shortly after transforming America into a Banana Republic... No library necessary...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    I don't know about free money but since the 90s I have found nfl Wong teasers to be my most profitable and consistent betting scheme. I applied the basics of the Wong teaser logic to 3 team 10 point and 4 team 13 point teasers also.

    Teasers - biggest sucker bet in the world - I'm not surprised you'd be on them. I got your Wong right here Debbie...

    The Obama System is 75%, best system in Handicapping. I'm hoping he opens a service shortly after transforming America into a Banana Republic... No library necessary...
     
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    This reminds me of when the woop alias was challenged to a bracket contest and got destroyed by Obama.  Funny you should bring that up. 

    Let me try to help you.  Research what I was talking about.  "Wong teasers". 

    Maybe you might learn something 

    Also rather than spending time blabbering on about partisan lemming nonsense...

    Maybe you might learn something
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    This reminds me of when the woop alias was challenged to a bracket contest and got destroyed by Obama.  Funny you should bring that up. 

    Let me try to help you.  Research what I was talking about.  "Wong teasers". 

    Maybe you might learn something 

    Also rather than spending time blabbering on about partisan lemming nonsense...

    Maybe you might learn something
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2016 - 1:05 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by Pendo:



    Ok, thus fade Kenya (birthplace), and fade Indonesia (youth & school),
    and fade Saudi Arabia and Iran. 
    If they're not in the same Group, then a parlay can be a play.



    Add Cuba to the list...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendo:



    Ok, thus fade Kenya (birthplace), and fade Indonesia (youth & school),
    and fade Saudi Arabia and Iran. 
    If they're not in the same Group, then a parlay can be a play.



    Add Cuba to the list...
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Popo21:

    One big one is on Bet365 tennis, if you are watching the stream and on a break point you place a bet immediately after the point is finished (have it ready in the betslip), as long as the odds don't cross over into arbitrage immediately, they will give you that bet. 
    ie. The odds are -250 for server and +175 for returner, if the returner breaks and the odds for the server only go to -175 (which is actually true odds), then they put the bet through. This essentially allows you to make an extra .50 on the dollar for all break points. Definitely good for later in the match with cash outs and arbitrage.

    The way I made most of my money betting on tennis is focusing on Futures (lowest level) tournaments. When any favourite that is -500 to -1000 loses the first set, they are usually between +150 and -200 depending on the score of the set. As long as there are no injuries, reasons for them not to try (ie. better tourney next week) or other extenuating circumstances, I have found these bets to hit at about 80%. One summer I only looked for these bets and was up a solid 30k in three months, betting between $100-$500 each bet.


    If I understand you correctly the first paragraph is past posting.  Not that I care you did it but just wanted to clarify.

    The second paragraph is pretty interesting.  The thing that worries me about it is the "reason not to try" part.  Seems like that opens things up too much to opinion and emotion but it worked for you, just not sure others could duplicate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Popo21:

    One big one is on Bet365 tennis, if you are watching the stream and on a break point you place a bet immediately after the point is finished (have it ready in the betslip), as long as the odds don't cross over into arbitrage immediately, they will give you that bet. 
    ie. The odds are -250 for server and +175 for returner, if the returner breaks and the odds for the server only go to -175 (which is actually true odds), then they put the bet through. This essentially allows you to make an extra .50 on the dollar for all break points. Definitely good for later in the match with cash outs and arbitrage.

    The way I made most of my money betting on tennis is focusing on Futures (lowest level) tournaments. When any favourite that is -500 to -1000 loses the first set, they are usually between +150 and -200 depending on the score of the set. As long as there are no injuries, reasons for them not to try (ie. better tourney next week) or other extenuating circumstances, I have found these bets to hit at about 80%. One summer I only looked for these bets and was up a solid 30k in three months, betting between $100-$500 each bet.


    If I understand you correctly the first paragraph is past posting.  Not that I care you did it but just wanted to clarify.

    The second paragraph is pretty interesting.  The thing that worries me about it is the "reason not to try" part.  Seems like that opens things up too much to opinion and emotion but it worked for you, just not sure others could duplicate it.
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