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So, what should God exactly do when a young girl is about to get strangled or raped?
Why stop there? Why doesntGod do the same thing to men who are about to cheat on there wives? Or woman cheating on there Husbands?
You , like many on this forum are having real issues with the concept of FREE WILL......
People make choices every day. That still doesn't explain the following: God, if he does exist, can do anything from what I understand. So what would be so hard about preventing children from getting raped, stabbed to death, beaten to death... Not to mention the thousands of children every day that starve to death and die from preventable and treatable diseases. If I were God, I would have that person die in a car crash before he rapes that 6 month old child.
The fact is, Carlin was probably right when he said there is no God.
So, what should God exactly do when a young girl is about to get strangled or raped?
Why stop there? Why doesntGod do the same thing to men who are about to cheat on there wives? Or woman cheating on there Husbands?
You , like many on this forum are having real issues with the concept of FREE WILL......
People make choices every day. That still doesn't explain the following: God, if he does exist, can do anything from what I understand. So what would be so hard about preventing children from getting raped, stabbed to death, beaten to death... Not to mention the thousands of children every day that starve to death and die from preventable and treatable diseases. If I were God, I would have that person die in a car crash before he rapes that 6 month old child.
The fact is, Carlin was probably right when he said there is no God.
lets take one step back....
If prayer does not get answered or prayers not getting answered, does that prove to you that God does not exist or is another reason why God does not exist?
Wow! And you're insulting the intelligence of other people in this thread?
What the fuck are trying to say dude?
lets take one step back....
If prayer does not get answered or prayers not getting answered, does that prove to you that God does not exist or is another reason why God does not exist?
Wow! And you're insulting the intelligence of other people in this thread?
What the fuck are trying to say dude?
You are 100% correct. But wait a minute. I agreed with you, so you're wrong. Ha!
That is what it comes down to though... doing the right thing.
You are 100% correct. But wait a minute. I agreed with you, so you're wrong. Ha!
That is what it comes down to though... doing the right thing.
I was raised Catholic as well.
I was raised Catholic as well.
George Carlin...
"Religion has convinced people that there’s an invisible man…living in the sky, who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn’t want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you and he needs money."
George Carlin...
"Religion has convinced people that there’s an invisible man…living in the sky, who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn’t want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you and he needs money."
Why is it that you think that you are smarter than the "so called intelligent people"? Does it make you feel better about yourself to be so condescending?
No mate, rather the opposite, especially after reading through the various posts.....
Why is it that you think that you are smarter than the "so called intelligent people"? Does it make you feel better about yourself to be so condescending?
No mate, rather the opposite, especially after reading through the various posts.....
People make choices every day. That still doesn't explain the following: God, if he does exist, can do anything from what I understand. So what would be so hard about preventing children from getting raped, stabbed to death, beaten to death... Not to mention the thousands of children every day that starve to death and die from preventable and treatable diseases. If I were God, I would have that person die in a car crash before he rapes that 6 month old child.
The fact is, Carlin was probably right when he said there is no God.
We have free will. That is Gods ultimate gift to us.
God has laws. It is up to us to adhere to those laws OUT of free will. He doesnt bully us to adhere to these laws.
Raping little girls is BREAKING Gods laws as is having sex outisde marriage. They are both breaking laws.
Tell me, why should he get the child rapist involved in a car accident and not the person who wants to rip someone off in a business transaction?
Where does it start, where does it end?
If God stopped child rapsists before they committed, then what about the woman whose husband has just cheated on her? Wouldnt she have wanted God to stop her husband before he did it?
As i said, we all have free will, unfortunately a bi product of free will is evil, it is a consequence.
If we lived in a world where all moral choices we can make are good ones, then it defeats the pupose of us being on this earth.
People make choices every day. That still doesn't explain the following: God, if he does exist, can do anything from what I understand. So what would be so hard about preventing children from getting raped, stabbed to death, beaten to death... Not to mention the thousands of children every day that starve to death and die from preventable and treatable diseases. If I were God, I would have that person die in a car crash before he rapes that 6 month old child.
The fact is, Carlin was probably right when he said there is no God.
We have free will. That is Gods ultimate gift to us.
God has laws. It is up to us to adhere to those laws OUT of free will. He doesnt bully us to adhere to these laws.
Raping little girls is BREAKING Gods laws as is having sex outisde marriage. They are both breaking laws.
Tell me, why should he get the child rapist involved in a car accident and not the person who wants to rip someone off in a business transaction?
Where does it start, where does it end?
If God stopped child rapsists before they committed, then what about the woman whose husband has just cheated on her? Wouldnt she have wanted God to stop her husband before he did it?
As i said, we all have free will, unfortunately a bi product of free will is evil, it is a consequence.
If we lived in a world where all moral choices we can make are good ones, then it defeats the pupose of us being on this earth.
You are 100% correct. But wait a minute. I agreed with you, so you're wrong. Ha!
That is what it comes down to though... doing the right thing.
people here are trying to say that prayers not answered as a sign that God doesnt exist...
You are 100% correct. But wait a minute. I agreed with you, so you're wrong. Ha!
That is what it comes down to though... doing the right thing.
people here are trying to say that prayers not answered as a sign that God doesnt exist...
George Carlin...
"Religion has convinced people that there’s an invisible man…living in the sky, who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn’t want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you and he needs money."
Does the church demand money from me when i enter it? Do i have to pay a tax when i go to church? do i even have to go to church to pray to God?
So Carlin has failed immediately.
Furthermore, current cosmology and astrophysics has really made Carlin eat his own words regarding the "invisible man"
George Carlin...
"Religion has convinced people that there’s an invisible man…living in the sky, who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn’t want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you and he needs money."
Does the church demand money from me when i enter it? Do i have to pay a tax when i go to church? do i even have to go to church to pray to God?
So Carlin has failed immediately.
Furthermore, current cosmology and astrophysics has really made Carlin eat his own words regarding the "invisible man"
We have free will. That is Gods ultimate gift to us.
God has laws. It is up to us to adhere to those laws OUT of free will. He doesnt bully us to adhere to these laws.
Raping little girls is BREAKING Gods laws as is having sex outisde marriage. They are both breaking laws.
Tell me, why should he get the child rapist involved in a car accident and not the person who wants to rip someone off in a business transaction?
Where does it start, where does it end?
If God stopped child rapsists before they committed, then what about the woman whose husband has just cheated on her? Wouldnt she have wanted God to stop her husband before he did it?
As i said, we all have free will, unfortunately a bi product of free will is evil, it is a consequence.
If we lived in a world where all moral choices we can make are good ones, then it defeats the pupose of us being on this earth.
I'll admit that you do pose a very good question. Where does it start, and where does it end?
BTW... do you like living in Australia? I've always thought it would be a pretty cool place to live.
We have free will. That is Gods ultimate gift to us.
God has laws. It is up to us to adhere to those laws OUT of free will. He doesnt bully us to adhere to these laws.
Raping little girls is BREAKING Gods laws as is having sex outisde marriage. They are both breaking laws.
Tell me, why should he get the child rapist involved in a car accident and not the person who wants to rip someone off in a business transaction?
Where does it start, where does it end?
If God stopped child rapsists before they committed, then what about the woman whose husband has just cheated on her? Wouldnt she have wanted God to stop her husband before he did it?
As i said, we all have free will, unfortunately a bi product of free will is evil, it is a consequence.
If we lived in a world where all moral choices we can make are good ones, then it defeats the pupose of us being on this earth.
I'll admit that you do pose a very good question. Where does it start, and where does it end?
BTW... do you like living in Australia? I've always thought it would be a pretty cool place to live.
people here are trying to say that prayers not answered as a sign that God doesnt exist...
people here are trying to say that prayers not answered as a sign that God doesnt exist...
I'll admit that you do pose a very good question. Where does it start, and where does it end?
BTW... do you like living in Australia? I've always thought it would be a pretty cool place to live.
Yeah bud, love it.....have lved here all my life...
Althought i do also like the states, mainly due to the sports.....
I live on the northern beaches in Sydney, i commonly refer to this area as Gods country......
I'll admit that you do pose a very good question. Where does it start, and where does it end?
BTW... do you like living in Australia? I've always thought it would be a pretty cool place to live.
Yeah bud, love it.....have lved here all my life...
Althought i do also like the states, mainly due to the sports.....
I live on the northern beaches in Sydney, i commonly refer to this area as Gods country......
I believe that God has a path for all of us....A path that will make us the most happy.
I also believe that we have free will. More often the path that we choose, deviates from God's path which doesnt lead us to the ultimate happiness
I believe that if you truely seek God and ask him to guide you, i believe that he will close the gap between the path you have chosen for yourself and the one he has chosen for you.
Again, we have free will, what we do with it is our choice.
To understand, Lets take a hypothetical scenario. The recent superbowl.
Suppose Manning prayed with everything he has to God so he wins the bowl, and lets also assume Brady did the same thing.
Obviously Manning won and Brady lost. One could either assume that God listened to Manning and not Brady OR, it wouldnt have mattered because if no one prayed, there would still be a winner and a loser..
But what if God listened to both of them? You might say, well that is impossible because he answered one but not the other. true, however, what if God thought in the ultimate path of things, Manning will learn more if he wins the bowl than if he lost and Brady will ultimately learn more things if he lost than if he won?
This is just a suggestion. Maybe what we ask for and dont get sometimes happens because what we think is right for us and will benefit us, in fact could be the oppisite, but we just cant see it yet.
Just a suggestion.
I believe that God has a path for all of us....A path that will make us the most happy.
I also believe that we have free will. More often the path that we choose, deviates from God's path which doesnt lead us to the ultimate happiness
I believe that if you truely seek God and ask him to guide you, i believe that he will close the gap between the path you have chosen for yourself and the one he has chosen for you.
Again, we have free will, what we do with it is our choice.
To understand, Lets take a hypothetical scenario. The recent superbowl.
Suppose Manning prayed with everything he has to God so he wins the bowl, and lets also assume Brady did the same thing.
Obviously Manning won and Brady lost. One could either assume that God listened to Manning and not Brady OR, it wouldnt have mattered because if no one prayed, there would still be a winner and a loser..
But what if God listened to both of them? You might say, well that is impossible because he answered one but not the other. true, however, what if God thought in the ultimate path of things, Manning will learn more if he wins the bowl than if he lost and Brady will ultimately learn more things if he lost than if he won?
This is just a suggestion. Maybe what we ask for and dont get sometimes happens because what we think is right for us and will benefit us, in fact could be the oppisite, but we just cant see it yet.
Just a suggestion.
people need to worry about their relationship with God, we see a moron on TV that says God made a guy drop a ball, we can look at that and think bad about those that worship God, but the chances are the person that says that kind of stuff doesn't know God, at all. Everyone wants to categorize those who worship as if we were one person, that doesn't work with anyone else but every time a Christian gets a DUI we have a thread about it. but when a non-Christian does the same act, no one cares. I was in LA and i had horrible Mexican food, does that mean that every restaurant in LA has bad food? no. so what are we doing here? God can't be real because people do bad things? really? why not just create us on strings, lol. Atheists talk about God but that doesn't mean they believe in one or have a relationship with Him- the guy was joking about God, 1st sign he's not a believer
people need to worry about their relationship with God, we see a moron on TV that says God made a guy drop a ball, we can look at that and think bad about those that worship God, but the chances are the person that says that kind of stuff doesn't know God, at all. Everyone wants to categorize those who worship as if we were one person, that doesn't work with anyone else but every time a Christian gets a DUI we have a thread about it. but when a non-Christian does the same act, no one cares. I was in LA and i had horrible Mexican food, does that mean that every restaurant in LA has bad food? no. so what are we doing here? God can't be real because people do bad things? really? why not just create us on strings, lol. Atheists talk about God but that doesn't mean they believe in one or have a relationship with Him- the guy was joking about God, 1st sign he's not a believer
I believe that God has a path for all of us....A path that will make us the most happy.
I also believe that we have free will. More often the path that we choose, deviates from God's path which doesnt lead us to the ultimate happiness
I believe that if you truely seek God and ask him to guide you, i believe that he will close the gap between the path you have chosen for yourself and the one he has chosen for you.
Again, we have free will, what we do with it is our choice.
To understand, Lets take a hypothetical scenario. The recent superbowl.
Suppose Manning prayed with everything he has to God so he wins the bowl, and lets also assume Brady did the same thing.
Obviously Manning won and Brady lost. One could either assume that God listened to Manning and not Brady OR, it wouldnt have mattered because if no one prayed, there would still be a winner and a loser..
But what if God listened to both of them? You might say, well that is impossible because he answered one but not the other. true, however, what if God thought in the ultimate path of things, Manning will learn more if he wins the bowl than if he lost and Brady will ultimately learn more things if he lost than if he won?
This is just a suggestion. Maybe what we ask for and dont get sometimes happens because what we think is right for us and will benefit us, in fact could be the oppisite, but we just cant see it yet.
Just a suggestion.
that was deep. i thank you for sharing ur knowledge with us
I believe that God has a path for all of us....A path that will make us the most happy.
I also believe that we have free will. More often the path that we choose, deviates from God's path which doesnt lead us to the ultimate happiness
I believe that if you truely seek God and ask him to guide you, i believe that he will close the gap between the path you have chosen for yourself and the one he has chosen for you.
Again, we have free will, what we do with it is our choice.
To understand, Lets take a hypothetical scenario. The recent superbowl.
Suppose Manning prayed with everything he has to God so he wins the bowl, and lets also assume Brady did the same thing.
Obviously Manning won and Brady lost. One could either assume that God listened to Manning and not Brady OR, it wouldnt have mattered because if no one prayed, there would still be a winner and a loser..
But what if God listened to both of them? You might say, well that is impossible because he answered one but not the other. true, however, what if God thought in the ultimate path of things, Manning will learn more if he wins the bowl than if he lost and Brady will ultimately learn more things if he lost than if he won?
This is just a suggestion. Maybe what we ask for and dont get sometimes happens because what we think is right for us and will benefit us, in fact could be the oppisite, but we just cant see it yet.
Just a suggestion.
that was deep. i thank you for sharing ur knowledge with us
Just an FYI... I'm not a slave to anyone's hobby, and I don't put a lot of time into thinking about how terrible everything is. I'm actually a very happy person. I don't have a lot of stress in my life. I am self employed. I have been lucky to find a great woman that I look forward to spending the rest of my life with. I have so many awesome friends that I have known for years that I can count on NO MATTER WHAT. I actually think I'm one of the luckiest people on earth.
Just an FYI... I'm not a slave to anyone's hobby, and I don't put a lot of time into thinking about how terrible everything is. I'm actually a very happy person. I don't have a lot of stress in my life. I am self employed. I have been lucky to find a great woman that I look forward to spending the rest of my life with. I have so many awesome friends that I have known for years that I can count on NO MATTER WHAT. I actually think I'm one of the luckiest people on earth.
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