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    Steph Curry is the Lionel Messi of Basketball, Forget Jordan, Kobe and Lebron

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    SwishSwish1234
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2016 - 4:11 AM ET #1


    He's just a pure inspiration, I mean you could be a car salesman and get inspired, Just watching him go about his business would make you want to sell cars the way he knocks down three's, Another superb performance last night against the Miami Heat.

    He is the Lionel Messi of basketball and i know he probably has to win another NBA championship to challenge Jordan in terms of legacy but i was watching highlights of Jordan last night and meh, Compared to Steph i don't see that much of an upgrade if not a slight downgrade.

    Just as Jordan will be thrown at Steph Curry, Messi gets Maradona thrown at him, For me both Messi and Steph Curry are better than the two before them. I might be willing to listen to Jordan lovers but Steph has easily solidified his place ahead of both Kobe and Lebron.
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    He's just a pure inspiration, I mean you could be a car salesman and get inspired, Just watching him go about his business would make you want to sell cars the way he knocks down three's, Another superb performance last night against the Miami Heat.

    He is the Lionel Messi of basketball and i know he probably has to win another NBA championship to challenge Jordan in terms of legacy but i was watching highlights of Jordan last night and meh, Compared to Steph i don't see that much of an upgrade if not a slight downgrade.

    Just as Jordan will be thrown at Steph Curry, Messi gets Maradona thrown at him, For me both Messi and Steph Curry are better than the two before them. I might be willing to listen to Jordan lovers but Steph has easily solidified his place ahead of both Kobe and Lebron.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2016 - 4:50 AM ET #2

    You mean Steph and his team would have win another 5.

    Don't get me wrong, Curry is a special talent s Messi is in his respected sport, but it's way too early to compare.  
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    You mean Steph and his team would have win another 5.

    Don't get me wrong, Curry is a special talent s Messi is in his respected sport, but it's way too early to compare.  
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2016 - 6:06 AM ET #3

    "but it's wayyyyy to early to compare"

    when Curry sports 6 rings, 6 scoring titles, 8 MVP's (playoffs, and regular season combined) and numerous NBA credits to his resume; then you can debate his stance on Michael Jordan, by whom the media has dubbed 'the greatest NBA player of all time'. by which I agree wholeheartedly...I am a Steph Curry fan, he's having a phenomenal year, Jordan had 8 of them, Curry has yet to reach the consistency of a Kobe, or Jordan. However, his play has overshadowed Lebron James, who's fading as the NBA's 'top dog' enter Steph Curry MVP 2016; take it from their

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    "but it's wayyyyy to early to compare"

    when Curry sports 6 rings, 6 scoring titles, 8 MVP's (playoffs, and regular season combined) and numerous NBA credits to his resume; then you can debate his stance on Michael Jordan, by whom the media has dubbed 'the greatest NBA player of all time'. by which I agree wholeheartedly...I am a Steph Curry fan, he's having a phenomenal year, Jordan had 8 of them, Curry has yet to reach the consistency of a Kobe, or Jordan. However, his play has overshadowed Lebron James, who's fading as the NBA's 'top dog' enter Steph Curry MVP 2016; take it from their

     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2016 - 8:36 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    "but it's wayyyyy to early to compare"

    when Curry sports 6 rings, 6 scoring titles, 8 MVP's (playoffs, and regular season combined) and numerous NBA credits to his resume; then you can debate his stance on Michael Jordan, by whom the media has dubbed 'the greatest NBA player of all time'. by which I agree wholeheartedly...I am a Steph Curry fan, he's having a phenomenal year, Jordan had 8 of them, Curry has yet to reach the consistency of a Kobe, or Jordan. However, his play has overshadowed Lebron James, who's fading as the NBA's 'top dog' enter Steph Curry MVP 2016; take it from their


    Well put
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    "but it's wayyyyy to early to compare"

    when Curry sports 6 rings, 6 scoring titles, 8 MVP's (playoffs, and regular season combined) and numerous NBA credits to his resume; then you can debate his stance on Michael Jordan, by whom the media has dubbed 'the greatest NBA player of all time'. by which I agree wholeheartedly...I am a Steph Curry fan, he's having a phenomenal year, Jordan had 8 of them, Curry has yet to reach the consistency of a Kobe, or Jordan. However, his play has overshadowed Lebron James, who's fading as the NBA's 'top dog' enter Steph Curry MVP 2016; take it from their


    Well put
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2016 - 2:15 PM ET #5

    I like the comparison
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    I like the comparison
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2016 - 8:01 PM ET #6

    When Jordan played the other team could actually play defense and touch you.....if not darn near tackle you....

    The Pistons would have destroyed Steph Curry. 
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    When Jordan played the other team could actually play defense and touch you.....if not darn near tackle you....

    The Pistons would have destroyed Steph Curry. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2016 - 8:10 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    When Jordan played the other team could actually play defense and touch you.....if not darn near tackle you....

    The Pistons would have destroyed Steph Curry. 

    This where you lose me too. I don't watch enough soccer to know if the game has changed a bunch from the time Maradonna played to now but basketball? It was a rough game back in 90s. We'll never know for sure obviously but from my observations over the years Curry would have gotten broken back then. I think he would have been a great shooter back then but would not have been able to dominate just because he's so slight and guys were allowed to touch one another. He is very fun to watch nowadays but I don't think it's possible to compare eras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    When Jordan played the other team could actually play defense and touch you.....if not darn near tackle you....

    The Pistons would have destroyed Steph Curry. 

    This where you lose me too. I don't watch enough soccer to know if the game has changed a bunch from the time Maradonna played to now but basketball? It was a rough game back in 90s. We'll never know for sure obviously but from my observations over the years Curry would have gotten broken back then. I think he would have been a great shooter back then but would not have been able to dominate just because he's so slight and guys were allowed to touch one another. He is very fun to watch nowadays but I don't think it's possible to compare eras.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2016 - 9:46 PM ET #8

    Not sure about all time legacies. But Curry is easily the best shooter ever. Not even close.
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    Not sure about all time legacies. But Curry is easily the best shooter ever. Not even close.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2016 - 6:59 AM ET #9

    You cant compare era's...The rules are different.


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    You cant compare era's...The rules are different.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2016 - 2:42 PM ET #10

    Funny how you try to make up the rules of discussion 
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    Funny how you try to make up the rules of discussion 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    When Jordan played the other team could actually play defense and touch you.....if not darn near tackle you....

    The Pistons would have destroyed Steph Curry. 

    It's not that curry would be shut down but the Pistons would have had the players and the rules to be able shut down the offense they run.

    Also Isaiah would have put pressure on curry to defend which is how I think you break him.  You can't stop him on offense individually but I think you can wear him down by making him play defense.

    This is why I think in the playoffs GS is in trouble against OKL.  Curry having to guard Westbrook over a 7 game series is huge issues.  

    Last year's championship curry avoided having to match up with both Westbrook and Paul and instead was playing against people like dellavadova and Jason Terry 

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    When Jordan played the other team could actually play defense and touch you.....if not darn near tackle you....

    The Pistons would have destroyed Steph Curry. 

    It's not that curry would be shut down but the Pistons would have had the players and the rules to be able shut down the offense they run.

    Also Isaiah would have put pressure on curry to defend which is how I think you break him.  You can't stop him on offense individually but I think you can wear him down by making him play defense.

    This is why I think in the playoffs GS is in trouble against OKL.  Curry having to guard Westbrook over a 7 game series is huge issues.  

    Last year's championship curry avoided having to match up with both Westbrook and Paul and instead was playing against people like dellavadova and Jason Terry 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2016 - 7:12 AM ET #12

    Just lost for words, Last night, Wow.
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    Just lost for words, Last night, Wow.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2016 - 10:17 AM ET #13

    curry may be the best shooter ever, but as a total basketball player, he is no jordan.
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    curry may be the best shooter ever, but as a total basketball player, he is no jordan.
     
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    Another day, another 12 3-pointers

    What seems to get lost in all this "back in the day" crap is how many people fall back on "well, MJ would have hand checked him" and "Isaiah would have fronted him" and blahblahblah.....

    Guys that have NEVER played a guy like Curry somehow seem to know how to defend him. Why not bring the conversation FORWARD, and try and figure out if Gary Payton can "Glove" somebody without hand-checking? Or flagrant fouls?

    We've tried thuggery before, and the NBA decided they didn't like it. Coming off the bench rules, replay reviews, etc., are here, and the game is opening up. And nobody opens it up like Curry.

    Big O says guard the 3-pointer? Curry just takes a step back. 

    Foul him? 90% free throw shooter. Oops.

    You can't compare LeBron to MJ (the previous "Greatest" discussion). Different eras, hell even different positions, which nobody seems to care about. 

    Just appreciate what is going on now, and that we get to watch it. Memories are great, and so is LeBron, Michael, and the Big O. These guys could have played in ANY era. Go back and check out Big O stats. Before people started calling Magic Johnson the "greatest" because he had some triple-doubles, Mr. Robertson AVERAGED A TRIPLE DOUBLE. Several seasons, he was just a few tenths off.....................amazing.

    Rant over, gotta go!
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    Another day, another 12 3-pointers

    What seems to get lost in all this "back in the day" crap is how many people fall back on "well, MJ would have hand checked him" and "Isaiah would have fronted him" and blahblahblah.....

    Guys that have NEVER played a guy like Curry somehow seem to know how to defend him. Why not bring the conversation FORWARD, and try and figure out if Gary Payton can "Glove" somebody without hand-checking? Or flagrant fouls?

    We've tried thuggery before, and the NBA decided they didn't like it. Coming off the bench rules, replay reviews, etc., are here, and the game is opening up. And nobody opens it up like Curry.

    Big O says guard the 3-pointer? Curry just takes a step back. 

    Foul him? 90% free throw shooter. Oops.

    You can't compare LeBron to MJ (the previous "Greatest" discussion). Different eras, hell even different positions, which nobody seems to care about. 

    Just appreciate what is going on now, and that we get to watch it. Memories are great, and so is LeBron, Michael, and the Big O. These guys could have played in ANY era. Go back and check out Big O stats. Before people started calling Magic Johnson the "greatest" because he had some triple-doubles, Mr. Robertson AVERAGED A TRIPLE DOUBLE. Several seasons, he was just a few tenths off.....................amazing.

    Rant over, gotta go!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:

    Another day, another 12 3-pointers

    What seems to get lost in all this "back in the day" crap is how many people fall back on "well, MJ would have hand checked him" and "Isaiah would have fronted him" and blahblahblah.....

    Guys that have NEVER played a guy like Curry somehow seem to know how to defend him. Why not bring the conversation FORWARD, and try and figure out if Gary Payton can "Glove" somebody without hand-checking? Or flagrant fouls?

    We've tried thuggery before, and the NBA decided they didn't like it. Coming off the bench rules, replay reviews, etc., are here, and the game is opening up. And nobody opens it up like Curry.

    Big O says guard the 3-pointer? Curry just takes a step back. 

    Foul him? 90% free throw shooter. Oops.

    You can't compare LeBron to MJ (the previous "Greatest" discussion). Different eras, hell even different positions, which nobody seems to care about. 

    Just appreciate what is going on now, and that we get to watch it. Memories are great, and so is LeBron, Michael, and the Big O. These guys could have played in ANY era. Go back and check out Big O stats. Before people started calling Magic Johnson the "greatest" because he had some triple-doubles, Mr. Robertson AVERAGED A TRIPLE DOUBLE. Several seasons, he was just a few tenths off.....................amazing.

    Rant over, gotta go!


    Lebron is an athlete who is great at basketball

    Jordan and Curry are great basketball players

    To me that is the difference.    Advantage Jordan/Curry
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:

    Another day, another 12 3-pointers

    What seems to get lost in all this "back in the day" crap is how many people fall back on "well, MJ would have hand checked him" and "Isaiah would have fronted him" and blahblahblah.....

    Guys that have NEVER played a guy like Curry somehow seem to know how to defend him. Why not bring the conversation FORWARD, and try and figure out if Gary Payton can "Glove" somebody without hand-checking? Or flagrant fouls?

    We've tried thuggery before, and the NBA decided they didn't like it. Coming off the bench rules, replay reviews, etc., are here, and the game is opening up. And nobody opens it up like Curry.

    Big O says guard the 3-pointer? Curry just takes a step back. 

    Foul him? 90% free throw shooter. Oops.

    You can't compare LeBron to MJ (the previous "Greatest" discussion). Different eras, hell even different positions, which nobody seems to care about. 

    Just appreciate what is going on now, and that we get to watch it. Memories are great, and so is LeBron, Michael, and the Big O. These guys could have played in ANY era. Go back and check out Big O stats. Before people started calling Magic Johnson the "greatest" because he had some triple-doubles, Mr. Robertson AVERAGED A TRIPLE DOUBLE. Several seasons, he was just a few tenths off.....................amazing.

    Rant over, gotta go!


    Lebron is an athlete who is great at basketball

    Jordan and Curry are great basketball players

    To me that is the difference.    Advantage Jordan/Curry
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2016 - 1:25 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    When Jordan played the other team could actually play defense and touch you.....if not darn near tackle you....

    The Pistons would have destroyed Steph Curry. 

    As much as I like Curry I agree

    So many whistles these days
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    When Jordan played the other team could actually play defense and touch you.....if not darn near tackle you....

    The Pistons would have destroyed Steph Curry. 

    As much as I like Curry I agree

    So many whistles these days
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    When Jordan played the other team could actually play defense and touch you.....if not darn near tackle you....

    The Pistons would have destroyed Steph Curry. 

    It's true.

    Bill Laimbere would clothesline you if need be. 

    Steph would leave on a stretcher if he played against Bill in the 80's90's.

    Not to take credit from what Steph is doing but Train is right. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    When Jordan played the other team could actually play defense and touch you.....if not darn near tackle you....

    The Pistons would have destroyed Steph Curry. 

    It's true.

    Bill Laimbere would clothesline you if need be. 

    Steph would leave on a stretcher if he played against Bill in the 80's90's.

    Not to take credit from what Steph is doing but Train is right. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2016 - 2:37 PM ET #18

    Agree, best basketball player I've ever seen. It's not even fair to the rest of the league. 
    The Flea and Curry are not from this galaxy.
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    Agree, best basketball player I've ever seen. It's not even fair to the rest of the league. 
    The Flea and Curry are not from this galaxy.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2016 - 2:41 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    Just lost for words, Last night, Wow.

    They should have just canceled the remainder of the NBA season and  handed Steph the trophy last night. Simply outrageous. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    Just lost for words, Last night, Wow.

    They should have just canceled the remainder of the NBA season and  handed Steph the trophy last night. Simply outrageous. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2016 - 3:20 PM ET #20

    Curry is amazing but not to the point that I would want to sell cars. I don't undertsand what you were getting at there.
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    Curry is amazing but not to the point that I would want to sell cars. I don't undertsand what you were getting at there.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2016 - 4:54 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    It's true.

    Bill Laimbere would clothesline you if need be. 

    Steph would leave on a stretcher if he played against Bill in the 80's90's.

    Not to take credit from what Steph is doing but Train is right. 

    The Pisstons would have tried to destroy Steph. Now, Mr. Laimbeer would be called for a Flagrant, and ejected. Likewise, another great player that did nothing, Rick Mahorn. End result, Thugs minus two, rest of the viewing audience: Gets to watch Steph.

    You never saw a bigger CryBaby than Bill Laimbeer. Who, in his mind only, never fouled. He makes LeBron look like a handless puppet.

    Oh, and that goes for Pat Riley's Knicks, that won all those titles back in the day.......................
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    It's true.

    Bill Laimbere would clothesline you if need be. 

    Steph would leave on a stretcher if he played against Bill in the 80's90's.

    Not to take credit from what Steph is doing but Train is right. 

    The Pisstons would have tried to destroy Steph. Now, Mr. Laimbeer would be called for a Flagrant, and ejected. Likewise, another great player that did nothing, Rick Mahorn. End result, Thugs minus two, rest of the viewing audience: Gets to watch Steph.

    You never saw a bigger CryBaby than Bill Laimbeer. Who, in his mind only, never fouled. He makes LeBron look like a handless puppet.

    Oh, and that goes for Pat Riley's Knicks, that won all those titles back in the day.......................
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2016 - 6:42 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:


    The Pisstons would have tried to destroy Steph. Now, Mr. Laimbeer would be called for a Flagrant, and ejected. Likewise, another great player that did nothing, Rick Mahorn. End result, Thugs minus two, rest of the viewing audience: Gets to watch Steph.

    You never saw a bigger CryBaby than Bill Laimbeer. Who, in his mind only, never fouled. He makes LeBron look like a handless puppet.

    Oh, and that goes for Pat Riley's Knicks, that won all those titles back in the day.......................
    Pat Rileys Knicks never won a title. Pat Rileys Lakers won titles and the Knicks won titles in the 70s . And for the rest of your post I, and maybe others , have no idea what you are talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:


    The Pisstons would have tried to destroy Steph. Now, Mr. Laimbeer would be called for a Flagrant, and ejected. Likewise, another great player that did nothing, Rick Mahorn. End result, Thugs minus two, rest of the viewing audience: Gets to watch Steph.

    You never saw a bigger CryBaby than Bill Laimbeer. Who, in his mind only, never fouled. He makes LeBron look like a handless puppet.

    Oh, and that goes for Pat Riley's Knicks, that won all those titles back in the day.......................
    Pat Rileys Knicks never won a title. Pat Rileys Lakers won titles and the Knicks won titles in the 70s . And for the rest of your post I, and maybe others , have no idea what you are talking about.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2016 - 7:10 PM ET #23

    That is the point, genius

    Despite the Knicks trying to be Bad Boys II, it didn't work.

    It's called sarcasm.

    If you have any other questions, perhaps about Bill Laimbeer, or today's rules vs. older rules, please don't hesitate to ask. I wish you all the luck the next time you use your toaster..............
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    That is the point, genius

    Despite the Knicks trying to be Bad Boys II, it didn't work.

    It's called sarcasm.

    If you have any other questions, perhaps about Bill Laimbeer, or today's rules vs. older rules, please don't hesitate to ask. I wish you all the luck the next time you use your toaster..............
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2016 - 8:49 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:

    Another day, another 12 3-pointers

    What seems to get lost in all this "back in the day" crap is how many people fall back on "well, MJ would have hand checked him" and "Isaiah would have fronted him" and blahblahblah.....

    Guys that have NEVER played a guy like Curry somehow seem to know how to defend him. Why not bring the conversation FORWARD, and try and figure out if Gary Payton can "Glove" somebody without hand-checking? Or flagrant fouls?

    We've tried thuggery before, and the NBA decided they didn't like it. Coming off the bench rules, replay reviews, etc., are here, and the game is opening up. And nobody opens it up like Curry.

    Big O says guard the 3-pointer? Curry just takes a step back. 

    Foul him? 90% free throw shooter. Oops.

    You can't compare LeBron to MJ (the previous "Greatest" discussion). Different eras, hell even different positions, which nobody seems to care about. 

    Just appreciate what is going on now, and that we get to watch it. Memories are great, and so is LeBron, Michael, and the Big O. These guys could have played in ANY era. Go back and check out Big O stats. Before people started calling Magic Johnson the "greatest" because he had some triple-doubles, Mr. Robertson AVERAGED A TRIPLE DOUBLE. Several seasons, he was just a few tenths off.....................amazing.

    Rant over, gotta go!

    Well said 
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:

    Another day, another 12 3-pointers

    What seems to get lost in all this "back in the day" crap is how many people fall back on "well, MJ would have hand checked him" and "Isaiah would have fronted him" and blahblahblah.....

    Guys that have NEVER played a guy like Curry somehow seem to know how to defend him. Why not bring the conversation FORWARD, and try and figure out if Gary Payton can "Glove" somebody without hand-checking? Or flagrant fouls?

    We've tried thuggery before, and the NBA decided they didn't like it. Coming off the bench rules, replay reviews, etc., are here, and the game is opening up. And nobody opens it up like Curry.

    Big O says guard the 3-pointer? Curry just takes a step back. 

    Foul him? 90% free throw shooter. Oops.

    You can't compare LeBron to MJ (the previous "Greatest" discussion). Different eras, hell even different positions, which nobody seems to care about. 

    Just appreciate what is going on now, and that we get to watch it. Memories are great, and so is LeBron, Michael, and the Big O. These guys could have played in ANY era. Go back and check out Big O stats. Before people started calling Magic Johnson the "greatest" because he had some triple-doubles, Mr. Robertson AVERAGED A TRIPLE DOUBLE. Several seasons, he was just a few tenths off.....................amazing.

    Rant over, gotta go!

    Well said 
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2016 - 2:16 PM ET #25

    I'm sick and tired of hearing all these dinosaurs saying c-rap like the 95 Bulls would sweep this Warriors team and Charles Barkley saying the Warriors would win one game etc The 95 Bulls wouldn't have the legs to compete with this quick paced Warriors team, Times have changed fellas, Warriors would beat them in 5 for me.
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    I'm sick and tired of hearing all these dinosaurs saying c-rap like the 95 Bulls would sweep this Warriors team and Charles Barkley saying the Warriors would win one game etc The 95 Bulls wouldn't have the legs to compete with this quick paced Warriors team, Times have changed fellas, Warriors would beat them in 5 for me.
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