My American friends, Now that the Muslim ban is in effect, What do we think?

I'm not American so my opinion on this is redundant, The mic belongs to you fellas in this thread....

ban the Muslims, build a wall on the Mexican/U.S. border, and torture the terrorist that are captured alive.....The tip of the iceberg, the best has yet to come; stay tuned SS1234 next up? 'voter fraud'.......

It's in the very early stages so I feel optimistic that there will be proper vetting in place eventually.  I do think something needs to be done.  I live in one of the most diverse regions of the country and there are Muslims everywhere (Newark, Paterson and Jersey City are all in the Top 10 of most ethnically diverse cities in the US).

If he can ban idiots from using the internet I'll be on board

Muslim ban would do very little to stop terrorism according to Vox.  According to FBI, most crimes and terrorist attacks are committed by American citizens in the US.  99% of all offenses would still happen even if all muslims are arrested.

well, it obviously does nothing to deter terrorism, nor is it designed to.  it should make people who have no idea how our immigration system works but are scared of muslims happy.

the main thing is it appeases his base but it doesn't do anything to anger the muslim countries (such as the one where almost all of the 9/11 attackers came from) where trump does business. 


https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-trump-immigration-ban-conflict-of-interest/

Well, Trump said he would do this, and is doing it. Cannot be surprised.

Americans are afraid of terrorists. Who isn't?


any american with greater than a 3rd grade understanding of probability and statistics, which honestly, should include everyone on this website who gambles.  in other words, if you live in america or most other countries not in the middle east and you're afraid of terrorists, stop gambling now.  it isn't for you. 


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/refugee-terrorist-chances-of-killed-one-in-3-billion-donald-trump-immigration-ban-syria-yemen-libya-a7548151.html

I think America is starting to look like 1938 Germany- 

It's not like "Muslim" is a skin tone or eye shape. Simply take the towel off your head, shave the crazy homeless looking beard and hair, cut back on the "Death To Infidels" talk, and change your name to Al Jazeeropoulous - BOOM! You're Telly Savalas! Trump won't know the difference. Who loves ya, Baby!!!!

Embarrassing. The Tea Party has moved into power and it's going to be a dark time in American history. Not that the years prior were much better. I for one will be standing with my Muslim brothers and sisters. Unfortunately, I don't feel the same vibe on this forum.

i get that.  it's only natural.  but the numbers on on your side.  i'd keep an eye out for all those idiots driving and texting though. 

be hard to get in out of jfk. tonight what a inconvenience. oh well laugardia isn't so bad in a pinch like this.

As a group the GD forum here has what appears to be some of the most open, accepting, kind hearted people. Hope many of you keep that viewpoint as you age. Wish i could. Quite different from the degenerate gamblers I seen over the decades in pool halls, tracks, sports books, casinos and all the gambling venues I've spent way too much time in. Honestly would like to why someone would want refugees allowed in the country? What is the benefit you see in them being here? The left would be well served to get that answer out there to help their cause. Alot of selfish people like myself don't know the answer and really aren't concerned about being called racists bigots or whatever insult you throw out there cause we don't care about being liked welcoming or accepting. Were just apathetic if we don't see a benefit to us. 

I will be real for you Mark. (not my usual sarcastic obnoxious self)

Human beings are the same for the most part. They want a better

future for their children they want nice communities , clean houses ,

and nice things in them. They want to be secured from losing this when they finally get them. These refugees in Syria had this at one time. Those places in Syria that are in ruins were once great places to live.

for the most part it is not their fault Outside entities decided to destroy what they had. and instead of joining the fight they fled.

The peace accord brokered by turkey and Russia will allow them to return yes but to what? ruins. Most of these refugees assimilated into their new country as best they could but without a reconstruction act from the world super nations they will begin to develop the failed state mentality like Afghanistan or northern Iraq and will look to any that can secure what they wanted in the first place.

when they realize that they will never have what they once had

will never be again what they were

they will become lost souls and developed a jihad mentality

 (we are already dead ) .

Then they will become the as evil as a human can become and lets get them in their fancy cities to the west will begin to manifest.

we will label them terrorists as they will be terrorists. but they were not born a terrorist they became one.

regardless of party affiliation, this manuever has to be a shot over the bow to terrorists from Trump. Sadly there are good people being held up and detained coming in from very dangerous places.