It's just show business. Strictly entertainment.

This is news?  First off, these leagues are not Sports.  Never have been - any more than a legal firm is the Law or Apple is Computers or my daughter's ballet group was ballet.  Sports is what these leagues "do" as a vehicle for the business model they have chosen.  The word "Sport" is used to merely identify the genre of entertainment they sell, just as SONY differentiates it's "Movies" from it's "Computers"

Of course it's entertainment.  But it's hard to compare Apple to the little computer maker down the street - despite the fact that they are in the same business. 

Your attempt to pre-condition your argument via such a ridiculous comparison shoots holes in your (unknown to you because of your very literal and simplistic interpretation of the law) attempt to show how very fixed the pro sports leagues are.

[Quote: . Cowen's main conclusion was this: "At best, he [Carl Mayer, the plaintive] possessed nothing more than a contractual ri Mayer actually was allowed to enter the stadium and witnessed the ‘specified NFL game[s]’ between the Jets and Patriots. He thereby suffered no cognizable injury to a legally protected right or interest."Cowen concluded, "We do not condone the conduct on the part of the Patriots and the team’s head coach, and we likewise refrain from assessing whether the NFL’s sanctions (and its alleged destruction of the videotapes themselves) were otherwise appropriate. We further recognize that professional football, like other professional sports, is a multi-billion dollar business. In turn, ticket-holders and other fans may have legitimate issues with the manner in which they are treated….Significantly, our ruling also does not leave Mayer and other ticket-holders without any recourse. Instead, fans could speak out against the Patriots, their coach, and the NFL itself. In fact, they could even go so far as to refuse to purchase tickets or NFL-related merchandise….However, the one thing they cannot do is bring a legal action in a court of law. [emphasis in original].”If that is the best protection a ticket provides a fan, do you honestly believe watching a game on television grants one more legal protection?[/Quote]

I can only presume you don't have a legal background.  The law is not static.  As much as the public believes it is a stationary vehicle a la the 10 Commandments...it is like any other business.  It evolves and changes - as does any other business.  It's why we have appeals processes.  Unlike most other businesses however, much of that evolution is wide open for all to see....and use for their own purposes - as you have no doubt unwittingly done here.  

Instead of going through innumerable actual cases that would contradict your assumptions in your desire to come to your  "Major Pro Sports May Be Fixed" stand, let's just put it this way.  The reason the judge was laughing at that Jets fan for suing wasn't because the LAW prevented him from doing it.  It was because the fan wasn't injured in any significant manner that would matter to any reasonable , sane standard.  I cannot tell you how often - even in jury trials - where a judge calls the attorneys into his or her chambers, and essentially threatens to disbar one or both of them if they don't stop trying to go down legal rabbit holes in an attempt to use prior rulings, writing, etc to merely prove a point - even if it is an absurd one.

Re-read your 1st post in this thread.  Look at all that money.  Do you know what a guaranteed, FIXED TV Network contract is?  Gary Bettman sure does - and THAT is the kind of "FIXING" that he learned very well from the NFL et al.  

IF you really believe the VGK phenomenon is "fixing" (as you are not so subtly implying based on this and your previous threads) then trust me, theses series' would have been more than 5 games.  Is there 100% integrity in anything?  Of course not.  But where you are going with this is far too simplistic and not close to the real world of law.  There is FAR more $$$$ to be made from these games being played out as they are.  Don't let your own disappointment in the way the games proceed get in the way of a deeper dive than merely looking at case histories.

Enjoy the rest of the playoffs.

What's interesting in this whole "fixing" argument is not how often "Vegas gets it close" on over/unders and sides....but how often it's WAAAAY off.  We just seem to NOTICE the close ones - especially when we have $$$ on them!

Do you think the any "fixers" want the light shining on national games?  Hell no.  If anything, they want to be busy in the WNBA, obscure college games, etc.  It makes Al Michaels (who may know the inner workings of sports betting better than most) feel free to make his not so subtle comments !

Ummm....sorry my friend, the above post by me that you quoted was not in response to anything you wrote - I was responding to docpj and Lippsman - the 2 posts immediately before mine.

Reading problem?

Yeah most of the outcomes are staged 

So tim donaghy was a lone wolf 

Nahhhh.  He was just the tip of the iceberg ....

Its so obvious in the Nfl , especially if you have access to all 22 

NDA's aren't done in pro sports leagues.  (We've all seen players get traded to other teams and then share what they know about the former employer) 

FYI, they are rarely used except in cases of highly confidential or proprietary information that could cause material, permanent harm to an entity and/or employee.  Think Silicon Valley.  Sports doesn't fall into this.  

Even if it did, the fact that the disclosed information was in regard to an illegal or illicit act (in the case of "favoring" certain teams or even fixing, etc.) would exempt it from an NDA.

And yes, the previous post applies to non-athlete employees as well.