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    bandit1010
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2013 - 1:57 PM ET #1

    The recent rapid increase in human population over the past three centuries has raised concerns that the planet may not be able to sustain present or larger numbers of inhabitants. The InterAcademy Panel Statement on Population Growth has stated that many environmental problems, such as rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, global warming, and pollution, are aggravated by the population expansion.[11] Other problems associated with overpopulation include the increased demand for resources such as fresh water and food, starvation and malnutrition, consumption of natural resources faster than the rate of regeneration (such as fossil fuels), and a deterioration in living conditions. However, some believe that waste and over-consumption, especially by wealthy nations, is putting more strain on the environment than overpopulation.[12]

    Limiting birth rates through legal regulations, educating people about family planning, increasing access to birth control and contraception, and extraterrestrial settlement have been suggested as ways to mitigate overpopulation in the future. China and other nations already have regulations limiting the birth rate, with China using a "one child per family" policy. Contraception is a response to the fact that nearly 40% of pregnancies are unintended and that in the poorest regions mothers often lack information and the means to control the size of their families.

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    The recent rapid increase in human population over the past three centuries has raised concerns that the planet may not be able to sustain present or larger numbers of inhabitants. The InterAcademy Panel Statement on Population Growth has stated that many environmental problems, such as rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, global warming, and pollution, are aggravated by the population expansion.[11] Other problems associated with overpopulation include the increased demand for resources such as fresh water and food, starvation and malnutrition, consumption of natural resources faster than the rate of regeneration (such as fossil fuels), and a deterioration in living conditions. However, some believe that waste and over-consumption, especially by wealthy nations, is putting more strain on the environment than overpopulation.[12]

    Limiting birth rates through legal regulations, educating people about family planning, increasing access to birth control and contraception, and extraterrestrial settlement have been suggested as ways to mitigate overpopulation in the future. China and other nations already have regulations limiting the birth rate, with China using a "one child per family" policy. Contraception is a response to the fact that nearly 40% of pregnancies are unintended and that in the poorest regions mothers often lack information and the means to control the size of their families.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2013 - 3:30 PM ET #2

    We will have to cull ourselves.

     

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    We will have to cull ourselves.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2013 - 3:46 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    We will have to cull ourselves.

     

    We used to. But now we have citizens living into their 90's instead of dying off in their 70's. We keep human vegetables on life support systems for 20 years instead of letting them go. We imprison the most evil of society instead of killing them. We encourage the single mother to make more babies to continue the financial assistance. We laugh at the father of 10 illegitimate children instead of being angry. We nurture the weak instead of the strong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    We will have to cull ourselves.

     

    We used to. But now we have citizens living into their 90's instead of dying off in their 70's. We keep human vegetables on life support systems for 20 years instead of letting them go. We imprison the most evil of society instead of killing them. We encourage the single mother to make more babies to continue the financial assistance. We laugh at the father of 10 illegitimate children instead of being angry. We nurture the weak instead of the strong.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2013 - 4:40 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    The U.S. should base children per family off of income with a cap. And for the lower class, one child per baby mamma.

    Good point. Right now, and for years it seems to be the exact opposite as the poorer families and single moms have the strategy to pump out as many kids as possible as more children equals more money from the government 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    The U.S. should base children per family off of income with a cap. And for the lower class, one child per baby mamma.

    Good point. Right now, and for years it seems to be the exact opposite as the poorer families and single moms have the strategy to pump out as many kids as possible as more children equals more money from the government 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2013 - 4:41 PM ET #5

    Just saw Getty's post. Please disregard above post as he made my point for me 
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    Just saw Getty's post. Please disregard above post as he made my point for me 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2013 - 5:48 PM ET #6

    Overpopulation is likely an issue. How about mandatory birth control for mamas on government assistance? Until you get off the gov payroll for at least a year, no more kids that we have to pay for would be a start.

    The third world needs a big change in creating kids that no one can feed, house or educate. It's an endless cycle in too many areas.

    As far as over consumption and resources go, the working class or privileged will always be able to obtain the necessities. The poor and desolate will always struggle (these are absolutes in the world we live in).


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    Overpopulation is likely an issue. How about mandatory birth control for mamas on government assistance? Until you get off the gov payroll for at least a year, no more kids that we have to pay for would be a start.

    The third world needs a big change in creating kids that no one can feed, house or educate. It's an endless cycle in too many areas.

    As far as over consumption and resources go, the working class or privileged will always be able to obtain the necessities. The poor and desolate will always struggle (these are absolutes in the world we live in).


     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2013 - 5:50 PM ET #7

    I figured this thread was about how Nicky Minaj walked off the set on the Voice this week.
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    I figured this thread was about how Nicky Minaj walked off the set on the Voice this week.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2013 - 6:21 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by timbaland99:


    Good point. Right now, and for years it seems to be the exact opposite as the poorer families and single moms have the strategy to pump out as many kids as possible as more children equals more money from the government 
    As the bible says, the meek shall inherit the earth. But it did not say wether it would be good or bad. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by timbaland99:


    Good point. Right now, and for years it seems to be the exact opposite as the poorer families and single moms have the strategy to pump out as many kids as possible as more children equals more money from the government 
    As the bible says, the meek shall inherit the earth. But it did not say wether it would be good or bad. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2013 - 7:44 PM ET #9

    Don't worry, the world governments are working on this problem. Soon it will be resolved
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    Don't worry, the world governments are working on this problem. Soon it will be resolved
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2013 - 8:21 PM ET #10

    Obviously a world traveler. (nice cut an paste)

    Find a passport and go and see the matter overseas where the real situation is taking place.and feel it.. United States there are lil kids going to bed hungry.

    Square it away right here and proceed.

     

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    Obviously a world traveler. (nice cut an paste)

    Find a passport and go and see the matter overseas where the real situation is taking place.and feel it.. United States there are lil kids going to bed hungry.

    Square it away right here and proceed.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2013 - 8:24 PM ET #11

    You list the countries you've been to and made an effort to witness the problem first hand - then we have a discussion.
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    You list the countries you've been to and made an effort to witness the problem first hand - then we have a discussion.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2013 - 10:40 PM ET #12

    If you want to make the argument the earth is over-populated with too many ignorant people, I would agree with you.  But the earth as a whole can support more people than your biased claim can support.  Perhaps too many resources are controlled or are in the hands of too few people/corporations (apparently they are people too by our laws), but do the math.  Take the amount of sustainable land on earth, divide that by the population (this is the number of people alive), and you might be surprised at the tens of thousands & thousands of square feet of livable self-sustaining land that would be available to each person individually.

    As far as people living longer today, if you take the average life expectancy of people in 1900, excluding those that died before the age five (many deaths occurred during birth or to diseases the immune system did not support within the first five years of life), you might be surprised that in that time without rapid cancer and heart-disease, people lived longer at that time then they do today. 


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    If you want to make the argument the earth is over-populated with too many ignorant people, I would agree with you.  But the earth as a whole can support more people than your biased claim can support.  Perhaps too many resources are controlled or are in the hands of too few people/corporations (apparently they are people too by our laws), but do the math.  Take the amount of sustainable land on earth, divide that by the population (this is the number of people alive), and you might be surprised at the tens of thousands & thousands of square feet of livable self-sustaining land that would be available to each person individually.

    As far as people living longer today, if you take the average life expectancy of people in 1900, excluding those that died before the age five (many deaths occurred during birth or to diseases the immune system did not support within the first five years of life), you might be surprised that in that time without rapid cancer and heart-disease, people lived longer at that time then they do today. 


     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2013 - 11:47 PM ET #13

    stfu goobag. Go get some more type an paste on douche.

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    stfu goobag. Go get some more type an paste on douche.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2013 - 2:38 AM ET #14

    not in our lifetime. future generations are probably going to have to come up with a solution
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    not in our lifetime. future generations are probably going to have to come up with a solution
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2013 - 5:08 AM ET #15

    Yet you all fawn over "economic growth" as the only thing politicians should be working on.

    Economic growth is part and parcel to population growth.  They go hand in hand.  The rich need an ever increasing slave pool to make all this garbage continue "growing."  Almost everyone buys into it.

    Don't forget over-fishing and the amount of plastic in the oceans choking out plankton.  We are royally screwed.
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    Yet you all fawn over "economic growth" as the only thing politicians should be working on.

    Economic growth is part and parcel to population growth.  They go hand in hand.  The rich need an ever increasing slave pool to make all this garbage continue "growing."  Almost everyone buys into it.

    Don't forget over-fishing and the amount of plastic in the oceans choking out plankton.  We are royally screwed.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2013 - 7:04 AM ET #16

    King Barry will save us.
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    King Barry will save us.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2013 - 10:41 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    stfu goobag. Go get some more type an paste on douche.



    searchwarrant,

    While I know its easy to think everything you disagree with is just cut and pasted articles, unfortunately its not a valid argument nor true.  I wish I could be more like you and lack the ability to critically think. You must be a very happy person, as ignorance is bliss.  Go back to your television and keep believing everything you're told.  Or better yet, help substantiate your belief that the world is over-populated and just kill yourself.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    stfu goobag. Go get some more type an paste on douche.



    searchwarrant,

    While I know its easy to think everything you disagree with is just cut and pasted articles, unfortunately its not a valid argument nor true.  I wish I could be more like you and lack the ability to critically think. You must be a very happy person, as ignorance is bliss.  Go back to your television and keep believing everything you're told.  Or better yet, help substantiate your belief that the world is over-populated and just kill yourself.

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2013 - 10:49 AM ET #18

    This initial post is the exact type of intellectual thinking that lays the groundwork for mass genocide.
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    This initial post is the exact type of intellectual thinking that lays the groundwork for mass genocide.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2013 - 10:57 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by slikstiks99:

    I figured this thread was about how Nicky Minaj walked off the set on the Voice this week.

    I believe the stuck up trollop you are referring to is on American Idol

    The skank that would be walking off The Voice is Christina Aguilera 

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    Quote Originally Posted by slikstiks99:

    I figured this thread was about how Nicky Minaj walked off the set on the Voice this week.

    I believe the stuck up trollop you are referring to is on American Idol

    The skank that would be walking off The Voice is Christina Aguilera 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    This initial post is the exact type of intellectual thinking that lays the groundwork for mass genocide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    This initial post is the exact type of intellectual thinking that lays the groundwork for mass genocide.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2013 - 3:31 PM ET #21

    Happlily this is something we need not worry about because unlike goverments,nature always solves these kinds of problems.If something can not go on forever,it DOESN'T..If the earth cannot support a population it doesn't. Is the human species a viable longterm inhabitant of this planet?
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    Happlily this is something we need not worry about because unlike goverments,nature always solves these kinds of problems.If something can not go on forever,it DOESN'T..If the earth cannot support a population it doesn't. Is the human species a viable longterm inhabitant of this planet?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2013 - 7:29 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by The8ofCups:

    Yet you all fawn over "economic growth" as the only thing politicians should be working on.

    Economic growth is part and parcel to population growth.  They go hand in hand.  The rich need an ever increasing slave pool to make all this garbage continue "growing."  Almost everyone buys into it.

    Don't forget over-fishing and the amount of plastic in the oceans choking out plankton.  We are royally screwed.

    "The rich need an ever increasing slave pool".  Exactly.  In a Rotary meeting a couple of years ago we had a couple from The US doing missionary work in Mexico for the last 20 plus years.  They said, the government and the super rich want to keep the women "barefoot and pregnant" with many kids for a large labor pool for cheap labor.  Same thing is happenning here.  There may be revolution in our country sooner than we want to believe.  Like it or not, we are becoming slaves to the elite. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by The8ofCups:

    Yet you all fawn over "economic growth" as the only thing politicians should be working on.

    Economic growth is part and parcel to population growth.  They go hand in hand.  The rich need an ever increasing slave pool to make all this garbage continue "growing."  Almost everyone buys into it.

    Don't forget over-fishing and the amount of plastic in the oceans choking out plankton.  We are royally screwed.

    "The rich need an ever increasing slave pool".  Exactly.  In a Rotary meeting a couple of years ago we had a couple from The US doing missionary work in Mexico for the last 20 plus years.  They said, the government and the super rich want to keep the women "barefoot and pregnant" with many kids for a large labor pool for cheap labor.  Same thing is happenning here.  There may be revolution in our country sooner than we want to believe.  Like it or not, we are becoming slaves to the elite. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2013 - 9:59 PM ET #23

    Almost time for them to drop the bomb then....
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    Almost time for them to drop the bomb then....
     
    mr_bollox
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2013 - 10:05 PM ET #24

    Newsflash to the OP

    this is going on in the "developing world" right now
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    Newsflash to the OP

    this is going on in the "developing world" right now
     
     
    metalbill
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2013 - 11:31 AM ET #25

    doom, gloom, death and destruction.

    we are all fucked
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    doom, gloom, death and destruction.

    we are all fucked
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