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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2010 - 12:53 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by PALLADIUM:

    Eventually they'll run into the wrong guy like my buddy's friends did 15 yrs ago in Rome NY.  Some old bastard left his hose running into the street all day long so one night they walked on his property and cut it.  The old Veteran came out with a shotgun and blew them all away then shot the neighbor across the street. 



    Hooray!  Serves 'em right.  

    Reminds me of that time when Michael Peter Fay, then an 18-yr old American in Singapore with too much time on his hands, spray painted several cars in a parking lot and got caught.  Sonofabitch was fined about $2,300 and had his bare bottom whupped with 6 strokes of the cane.  The pain healed, Fay later said, but the embarrassment of being "spanked" this way made him grow up pretty quickly.  Ah, the sweet days of corporal punishment.... American kids are too spoiled nowadays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PALLADIUM:

    Eventually they'll run into the wrong guy like my buddy's friends did 15 yrs ago in Rome NY.  Some old bastard left his hose running into the street all day long so one night they walked on his property and cut it.  The old Veteran came out with a shotgun and blew them all away then shot the neighbor across the street. 



    Hooray!  Serves 'em right.  

    Reminds me of that time when Michael Peter Fay, then an 18-yr old American in Singapore with too much time on his hands, spray painted several cars in a parking lot and got caught.  Sonofabitch was fined about $2,300 and had his bare bottom whupped with 6 strokes of the cane.  The pain healed, Fay later said, but the embarrassment of being "spanked" this way made him grow up pretty quickly.  Ah, the sweet days of corporal punishment.... American kids are too spoiled nowadays.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2010 - 2:04 PM ET #52

    No way I'd befriend them.  Anyone who already reacted like that kid did when you confronted them isn't going to respond to the "friendly" approach IMO.

    Next time you "catch" them, it's straight to the parents.  Then I'd tell them, "this time it's your parents, next time it will be the cops and I will 100% ask them to press trespassing and/or vandalism charges."

     

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    No way I'd befriend them.  Anyone who already reacted like that kid did when you confronted them isn't going to respond to the "friendly" approach IMO.

    Next time you "catch" them, it's straight to the parents.  Then I'd tell them, "this time it's your parents, next time it will be the cops and I will 100% ask them to press trespassing and/or vandalism charges."

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2010 - 11:15 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by Borat38:



    Hooray!  Serves 'em right.  

    Reminds me of that time when Michael Peter Fay, then an 18-yr old American in Singapore with too much time on his hands, spray painted several cars in a parking lot and got caught.  Sonofabitch was fined about $2,300 and had his bare bottom whupped with 6 strokes of the cane.  The pain healed, Fay later said, but the embarrassment of being "spanked" this way made him grow up pretty quickly.  Ah, the sweet days of corporal punishment.... American kids are too spoiled nowadays.

    So you feel turning off someones hose that is flooding a neighborhood is a capital offense?  The guy blew the heads off three 13 yr old kids.  Any adult that fucks with a kid over vandalism or being a punk is a box.  If you want to dime em out or go to their parents and look like a bitch I guess that's ok but doing phsical harm to a child when you are an adult is a bitch move.  I'd go the other route and hire another kid to do the hit nice and clean and a fair way of handling things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borat38:



    Hooray!  Serves 'em right.  

    Reminds me of that time when Michael Peter Fay, then an 18-yr old American in Singapore with too much time on his hands, spray painted several cars in a parking lot and got caught.  Sonofabitch was fined about $2,300 and had his bare bottom whupped with 6 strokes of the cane.  The pain healed, Fay later said, but the embarrassment of being "spanked" this way made him grow up pretty quickly.  Ah, the sweet days of corporal punishment.... American kids are too spoiled nowadays.

    So you feel turning off someones hose that is flooding a neighborhood is a capital offense?  The guy blew the heads off three 13 yr old kids.  Any adult that fucks with a kid over vandalism or being a punk is a box.  If you want to dime em out or go to their parents and look like a bitch I guess that's ok but doing phsical harm to a child when you are an adult is a bitch move.  I'd go the other route and hire another kid to do the hit nice and clean and a fair way of handling things.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 6:43 AM ET #54

    Take them to thier parents house and talk to them...dont go over there yelling your fucking kids did this or that and im going to do this if it happens again..Treat them with respect i'm sure they will fix the problem...and remember we were those punk kids in our days...we used to steal xmas light just to hear them pop(kinda like a lighter does when you throw them down)....we had block long hide in go seek games...including backyards roofs in cars...anywhere we can get away....rollerbladed down the streets knocking anything down.....The point is the punkass kids parents did the same shit and they will understand and put a stop to it after you talked.....if that doesn't work you see where the problem comes from...it's thier parents...then fuck with the parents....take a bat to your tailights. call the cops and said you saw them do it...kids go to juvi for a day....then drop the charges and the parents will get the hint

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    Take them to thier parents house and talk to them...dont go over there yelling your fucking kids did this or that and im going to do this if it happens again..Treat them with respect i'm sure they will fix the problem...and remember we were those punk kids in our days...we used to steal xmas light just to hear them pop(kinda like a lighter does when you throw them down)....we had block long hide in go seek games...including backyards roofs in cars...anywhere we can get away....rollerbladed down the streets knocking anything down.....The point is the punkass kids parents did the same shit and they will understand and put a stop to it after you talked.....if that doesn't work you see where the problem comes from...it's thier parents...then fuck with the parents....take a bat to your tailights. call the cops and said you saw them do it...kids go to juvi for a day....then drop the charges and the parents will get the hint

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 6:50 AM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by PALLADIUM:

    So you feel turning off someones hose that is flooding a neighborhood is a capital offense?  The guy blew the heads off three 13 yr old kids.  Any adult that fucks with a kid over vandalism or being a punk is a box.  If you want to dime em out or go to their parents and look like a bitch I guess that's ok but doing phsical harm to a child when you are an adult is a bitch move.  I'd go the other route and hire another kid to do the hit nice and clean and a fair way of handling things.

    haha Hiring another kid to beat them up isn't a bitch move? either???

    What would the kids reaction to that be??not a good one for sure..you will take a simple problem with garbage cans and escalate it to egging your house constantly...letting all the air out of your tires and so on...just more headaches you will have to deal with.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PALLADIUM:

    So you feel turning off someones hose that is flooding a neighborhood is a capital offense?  The guy blew the heads off three 13 yr old kids.  Any adult that fucks with a kid over vandalism or being a punk is a box.  If you want to dime em out or go to their parents and look like a bitch I guess that's ok but doing phsical harm to a child when you are an adult is a bitch move.  I'd go the other route and hire another kid to do the hit nice and clean and a fair way of handling things.

    haha Hiring another kid to beat them up isn't a bitch move? either???

    What would the kids reaction to that be??not a good one for sure..you will take a simple problem with garbage cans and escalate it to egging your house constantly...letting all the air out of your tires and so on...just more headaches you will have to deal with.....

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 8:59 AM ET #56

    I think that getting the parents involved is my best course of action.  I'll try that next time.

    I thought about the befriending angle but agree that it could go either way.  They would probably view it as a sign of weakness, like I have no other option or that I am not really that pissed that it happened.

    I was a little shit at one time and know that some of this crap is karma coming back to laugh in my face.  It isn't so much as the knocking over the trash cans thing, the reaction that I got and the "what are you gonna do, beat me up" line he used is what really fired me up.  In a sense, I like to think that if I grabbed him by the shirt and put him on the ground, the parents would back me up (no way would I ever punch a kid).  But the same logic tells me that I would get charged with assault and sued.   

    I have half expected to see the cans knocked over again or eggs thrown at my car but nothing so far.  To be continued...

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    I think that getting the parents involved is my best course of action.  I'll try that next time.

    I thought about the befriending angle but agree that it could go either way.  They would probably view it as a sign of weakness, like I have no other option or that I am not really that pissed that it happened.

    I was a little shit at one time and know that some of this crap is karma coming back to laugh in my face.  It isn't so much as the knocking over the trash cans thing, the reaction that I got and the "what are you gonna do, beat me up" line he used is what really fired me up.  In a sense, I like to think that if I grabbed him by the shirt and put him on the ground, the parents would back me up (no way would I ever punch a kid).  But the same logic tells me that I would get charged with assault and sued.   

    I have half expected to see the cans knocked over again or eggs thrown at my car but nothing so far.  To be continued...

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 1:18 PM ET #57

    the parents will usually do nothing in these cases. maybe you should get a pitbull

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    the parents will usually do nothing in these cases. maybe you should get a pitbull

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 3:44 PM ET #58

    If you go to the parents be prepared to deal with a stupid or no response which will piss you off even more.

    You may even get the "who the fuck are you to tell me how to raise my kid"

    Here's a good story about parents today.  I own 2 dessert shops at an amusement park.

    One morning I had a kid try to scam me, I caught him and was going to tell the mom but instead just laughed about it with my employee at my other store. 

    Half an hour later the mom tried the scam at my other store as the kid was unsuccessfull.  My employee who has half a brain caught the scam quickly and called me saying the mom just tried the same shit on me.

    Thats the world we live in. BTW the kid was about 8 or 9 years old. 

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    If you go to the parents be prepared to deal with a stupid or no response which will piss you off even more.

    You may even get the "who the fuck are you to tell me how to raise my kid"

    Here's a good story about parents today.  I own 2 dessert shops at an amusement park.

    One morning I had a kid try to scam me, I caught him and was going to tell the mom but instead just laughed about it with my employee at my other store. 

    Half an hour later the mom tried the scam at my other store as the kid was unsuccessfull.  My employee who has half a brain caught the scam quickly and called me saying the mom just tried the same shit on me.

    Thats the world we live in. BTW the kid was about 8 or 9 years old. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2010 - 9:18 AM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by pezeveng:

    One morning I had a kid try to scam me, I caught him and was going to tell the mom but instead just laughed about it with my employee at my other store. 

    Half an hour later the mom tried the scam at my other store as the kid was unsuccessfull.  My employee who has half a brain caught the scam quickly and called me saying the mom just tried the same shit on me.

    Thats the world we live in. BTW the kid was about 8 or 9 years old. 



    This had me laughing out loud in my very quiet office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pezeveng:

    One morning I had a kid try to scam me, I caught him and was going to tell the mom but instead just laughed about it with my employee at my other store. 

    Half an hour later the mom tried the scam at my other store as the kid was unsuccessfull.  My employee who has half a brain caught the scam quickly and called me saying the mom just tried the same shit on me.

    Thats the world we live in. BTW the kid was about 8 or 9 years old. 



    This had me laughing out loud in my very quiet office.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2010 - 10:53 AM ET #60

    Find a young thug of your own.  Go to the local ghetto boxing gym for your hire.  About 16 to 17 (18 means charges)  will do.  Pay the little bastard to hang in your alley.

    When he sees the little fucks, he kicks their asses but good.

    Your territory will be avoided from now on.

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    Find a young thug of your own.  Go to the local ghetto boxing gym for your hire.  About 16 to 17 (18 means charges)  will do.  Pay the little bastard to hang in your alley.

    When he sees the little fucks, he kicks their asses but good.

    Your territory will be avoided from now on.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2010 - 1:24 PM ET #61

    go 2 the park find a bigger kid tell him u will give him $50 or 100 if he does some work 4 u...   tell him whos ass u want kicked a black eye would b worth an extra $50  and when he gets done tell him 2 tell the little bastard not 2 fuck with trash cans again!!!    he wont know who it is...  im sure u r not the only person in the neighborhood whos trash cans hes fucking with..  then the next time u c him politely thank him 4 leaving your trash can alone
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    go 2 the park find a bigger kid tell him u will give him $50 or 100 if he does some work 4 u...   tell him whos ass u want kicked a black eye would b worth an extra $50  and when he gets done tell him 2 tell the little bastard not 2 fuck with trash cans again!!!    he wont know who it is...  im sure u r not the only person in the neighborhood whos trash cans hes fucking with..  then the next time u c him politely thank him 4 leaving your trash can alone
     
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    Doing anything physical will just make them retaliate more.....ask around and see who knows the kid and them offer to pay them if they start a rumor that he's gay or something that will embarass him.  A black eye goes away, but having the entire town and school think something like that will stick with him for years.  A kid left my high school because another guy that didn't like him told everyone that he caught him jacking off in the shower after football practice....of course he's going to deny it.  Fuck with their minds, not their bodies.
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    Doing anything physical will just make them retaliate more.....ask around and see who knows the kid and them offer to pay them if they start a rumor that he's gay or something that will embarass him.  A black eye goes away, but having the entire town and school think something like that will stick with him for years.  A kid left my high school because another guy that didn't like him told everyone that he caught him jacking off in the shower after football practice....of course he's going to deny it.  Fuck with their minds, not their bodies.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    Th trap will just piss them off more and th cycle will continue.

    2 ways to go. 1)Play reverse psychology and tell the little pukes that when you were their age you did the same stuff, but any chance we could call it a truce? I'm a cool guy and I'd definitely appreciate it and I don't want to be a dickhead with you guys.

    Idea here is to befriend them. Hard to do but it works.

    2) Next time just hold one of 'em by the shirt collar, call the cops and they'll scare 'em good. A talk with mommy an daddy about juniors behavior also goes along way when the police are in the kid's living room..

    Parents don't give a damn anymore, that's why these kids, and many, many others are the way they are.  Go "talk" to the parents, scare the hell out of them, threaten the parents--be careful here tho what you say.  Terrorize them after that if they don't make their kids behave. 

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    Th trap will just piss them off more and th cycle will continue.

    2 ways to go. 1)Play reverse psychology and tell the little pukes that when you were their age you did the same stuff, but any chance we could call it a truce? I'm a cool guy and I'd definitely appreciate it and I don't want to be a dickhead with you guys.

    Idea here is to befriend them. Hard to do but it works.

    2) Next time just hold one of 'em by the shirt collar, call the cops and they'll scare 'em good. A talk with mommy an daddy about juniors behavior also goes along way when the police are in the kid's living room..

    Parents don't give a damn anymore, that's why these kids, and many, many others are the way they are.  Go "talk" to the parents, scare the hell out of them, threaten the parents--be careful here tho what you say.  Terrorize them after that if they don't make their kids behave. 

     
     
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    Most parents DO still give a shit.  Confront the parents if you haven't already.  If they don't care, it's nothing that a .177 salt pellet in the ass can't deter.

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    Most parents DO still give a shit.  Confront the parents if you haven't already.  If they don't care, it's nothing that a .177 salt pellet in the ass can't deter.

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