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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2021 - 1:52 AM ET #1

    Is it Norman Mailer, Papa Hemingway, Bukowski, Doris Lessing, Walker Percy, Herman Melville, Phillip Roth, Kurt Vonnegut, Virginia Wolfe, F Scott Fitzgerald, Truman Capote

    Nelson Algren, Sinclair Lewis Ford Maddox Ford,James T Farrell, William J Kennedy ? or some other...or maybe one can never quantify "greatest" when it comes to such subjective matters...also, Kilgore Trout must be giver special consideration.

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    Is it Norman Mailer, Papa Hemingway, Bukowski, Doris Lessing, Walker Percy, Herman Melville, Phillip Roth, Kurt Vonnegut, Virginia Wolfe, F Scott Fitzgerald, Truman Capote

    Nelson Algren, Sinclair Lewis Ford Maddox Ford,James T Farrell, William J Kennedy ? or some other...or maybe one can never quantify "greatest" when it comes to such subjective matters...also, Kilgore Trout must be giver special consideration.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2021 - 10:04 AM ET #2

    First clarification would be to define "writer".

    My top 3:

    Ralph Waldo Emerson

    Mark Twain

    Henry David Thoreau

    "Great writer" is similar to "most beautiful", as it is incredibly subjective and all in the eye of the beholder peace_5

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    First clarification would be to define "writer".

    My top 3:

    Ralph Waldo Emerson

    Mark Twain

    Henry David Thoreau

    "Great writer" is similar to "most beautiful", as it is incredibly subjective and all in the eye of the beholder peace_5

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2021 - 12:47 PM ET #3

    Graham Hancock

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    Graham Hancock

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2021 - 5:01 PM ET #4

    Jon Krakauer, William Falkner, Mark Twain, Harper Lee

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    Jon Krakauer, William Falkner, Mark Twain, Harper Lee

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2021 - 5:03 PM ET #5

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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2021 - 5:55 PM ET #6

    1.  Walt Whitman
    2.  Ernest Hemmingway
    3.  Kurt Vonnegut

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    1.  Walt Whitman
    2.  Ernest Hemmingway
    3.  Kurt Vonnegut

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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2021 - 9:17 PM ET #7

    F Scott Fitzgerald

    Ernest Hemmingway

    Mark Twain

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    F Scott Fitzgerald

    Ernest Hemmingway

    Mark Twain

     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2021 - 11:06 AM ET #8

    Hemingway 

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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2021 - 12:51 PM ET #9

    Interpretation is everything 

     

     

    Mailer 

    Hemingway

    Kerouac 

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    Interpretation is everything 

     

     

    Mailer 

    Hemingway

    Kerouac 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2021 - 4:00 AM ET #10

    I forgot Kerouac so great, thanks

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    I forgot Kerouac so great, thanks

     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2021 - 4:01 AM ET #11

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     Subjective indeed, very much so a great point

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     Subjective indeed, very much so a great point

     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2021 - 4:06 AM ET #12

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     I forgot Harper Lee too also Carson MCCullers and Flanneryly O'Conner--thanks to all of you for indulging in my exercise, I appreciate it a ton

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    @bluecompass

     I forgot Harper Lee too also Carson MCCullers and Flanneryly O'Conner--thanks to all of you for indulging in my exercise, I appreciate it a ton

     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2021 - 8:14 AM ET #13

    Robert B Parker
    George RR Martin

     

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    Robert B Parker
    George RR Martin

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2021 - 11:02 AM ET #14

    For me, there is 1 person above the rest

     

    Edgar Allen Poe - not as highly regarded here as in Europe - gothic, humor, science fiction, poetry, detective fiction - did it all.  Had a huge influence on French writing in the late 1800s.  Not many American writers are revered overseas.

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    For me, there is 1 person above the rest

     

    Edgar Allen Poe - not as highly regarded here as in Europe - gothic, humor, science fiction, poetry, detective fiction - did it all.  Had a huge influence on French writing in the late 1800s.  Not many American writers are revered overseas.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2021 - 8:14 PM ET #15

    What no love for Steinbeck or Stephen King ?

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    What no love for Steinbeck or Stephen King ?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2021 - 6:27 PM ET #16

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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2021 - 11:51 AM ET #17

    Edgar Allen Poe, 

    Mark Twain and  Jack London.

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    Edgar Allen Poe, 

    Mark Twain and  Jack London.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2021 - 12:05 PM ET #18

    Kurt Vonnegut for his language and storytelling.

    Bret Easton Ellis for his descriptions and take on modern society.

    Stephen King for his sheer proficiency.

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    Kurt Vonnegut for his language and storytelling.

    Bret Easton Ellis for his descriptions and take on modern society.

    Stephen King for his sheer proficiency.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2021 - 6:58 PM ET #19

    One hit wonder but so was Salinger:

    John Kennedy Toole

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    One hit wonder but so was Salinger:

    John Kennedy Toole

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2022 - 2:36 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by rustie:

    One hit wonder but so was Salinger: John Kennedy Toole

     

    A Confederacy of Dunces was one of those books you read more slowly as you come closer to finishing, to prolong the pleasure.   I can easily imagine that Toole had as much fun writing it, as I had reading it.

    ”greatest” American writer is subjective, but I’d vote Hemingway.

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    One hit wonder but so was Salinger: John Kennedy Toole

     

    A Confederacy of Dunces was one of those books you read more slowly as you come closer to finishing, to prolong the pleasure.   I can easily imagine that Toole had as much fun writing it, as I had reading it.

    ”greatest” American writer is subjective, but I’d vote Hemingway.

     
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    He may have had fun writing it but he certainly didn't have any fun getting it published. He wound up taking his own life after being rejected by publishers so many times, they said it was pointless. Then his mother found the manuscript and basically forced her way into a professors office and sat there until he read it.  The professor was hoping it would be bad so he could read a few pages and kick her out...the book won the Pulitzer the next year.

    There are so many geniuses who are either ahead of their time or just too strange, that don't get the time of day.  A lot of inventors fall into this category. Look up Goodyear.

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    He may have had fun writing it but he certainly didn't have any fun getting it published. He wound up taking his own life after being rejected by publishers so many times, they said it was pointless. Then his mother found the manuscript and basically forced her way into a professors office and sat there until he read it.  The professor was hoping it would be bad so he could read a few pages and kick her out...the book won the Pulitzer the next year.

    There are so many geniuses who are either ahead of their time or just too strange, that don't get the time of day.  A lot of inventors fall into this category. Look up Goodyear.

     
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    Yeah I’m familiar with that story of how he finally got published, and of his last days…..how he went on a final road trip, visited the plantation in Georgia where his favorite writer Flannery OConnor had died young from lupus, years before, surrounded by her toucans and peacocks.  It was a sad ending for both.   It seems the 1960’s as a whole were tragic, yet compelling, with premature deaths……Hemingway, Sylvia Plath, OConnor, Toole, Jack Kerouac.   I would add Mary Pinchot Meyer to the list.    I’m fascinated by her story.   She wasn’t a writer, but her murder and connections to JFK and Timothy Leary seems to epitomize the melancholy and weirdness of the times.

    I just read about Goodyear, interesting story about another guy who made his mark, but never got the recognition or compensation he deserved.   Gotta respect him for his genius, and his tenacity.

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    Yeah I’m familiar with that story of how he finally got published, and of his last days…..how he went on a final road trip, visited the plantation in Georgia where his favorite writer Flannery OConnor had died young from lupus, years before, surrounded by her toucans and peacocks.  It was a sad ending for both.   It seems the 1960’s as a whole were tragic, yet compelling, with premature deaths……Hemingway, Sylvia Plath, OConnor, Toole, Jack Kerouac.   I would add Mary Pinchot Meyer to the list.    I’m fascinated by her story.   She wasn’t a writer, but her murder and connections to JFK and Timothy Leary seems to epitomize the melancholy and weirdness of the times.

    I just read about Goodyear, interesting story about another guy who made his mark, but never got the recognition or compensation he deserved.   Gotta respect him for his genius, and his tenacity.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2022 - 8:43 AM ET #23

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    Have you read Nathanael West?  He also died age 37 in 1940 after running a stop sign.  Only wrote 4 novels, Day of the Locust and Miss Lonelyhearts are probably the two best.   A little similar to Toole in their sense of humor.

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    Have you read Nathanael West?  He also died age 37 in 1940 after running a stop sign.  Only wrote 4 novels, Day of the Locust and Miss Lonelyhearts are probably the two best.   A little similar to Toole in their sense of humor.

     
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     I looked up West, saw that his work is in a similar picaresque style as Confederacy of Dunces.   I enjoy that type of novel, to me it’s the literary equivalent of the Three Stooges, or maybe even Dumb and Dumber, or Idiocracy.   Lower society knuckleheads who manage to get through life using their wits etc.

     

    I ordered Locust + Lonelyhearts.    Thanks for the tip.  peace_5

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     I looked up West, saw that his work is in a similar picaresque style as Confederacy of Dunces.   I enjoy that type of novel, to me it’s the literary equivalent of the Three Stooges, or maybe even Dumb and Dumber, or Idiocracy.   Lower society knuckleheads who manage to get through life using their wits etc.

     

    I ordered Locust + Lonelyhearts.    Thanks for the tip.  peace_5

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2022 - 5:18 PM ET #25

    Biscuit , would you please give a little review of the Ward books after reading? would be appreciated thankyou.

    While I'm here I would also like to make a case for John Irving his creativeness with characters is second to none.

    The World According To Garp, Cider House Rules, A Prayer For Owen Meany and Hotel New Hampshire stand out among others.

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    Biscuit , would you please give a little review of the Ward books after reading? would be appreciated thankyou.

    While I'm here I would also like to make a case for John Irving his creativeness with characters is second to none.

    The World According To Garp, Cider House Rules, A Prayer For Owen Meany and Hotel New Hampshire stand out among others.

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