Donald Trump / Bernie Sanders
He's not even a democrat, but yet they still follow this loony.
Just tell people they will get free stuff and they will blindly follow like the sheep they are.
He's not even a democrat, but yet they still follow this loony.
Just tell people they will get free stuff and they will blindly follow like the sheep they are.
it would be lovely to incorporate a scandinavian model for goverment but usa is needed to extroverted military while these nations are allowed to just take care of their own needs knowing us can face off against russia and china simultaneously.
Ole Sweden's successful model is circling the drain now that they are burdened by so many immigrants and illegals. Sure socialism works great in a small responsible, homogenous population with the same ethics and ideals but inevitably crumbles with a larger more diverse population.
it would be lovely to incorporate a scandinavian model for goverment but usa is needed to extroverted military while these nations are allowed to just take care of their own needs knowing us can face off against russia and china simultaneously.
Ole Sweden's successful model is circling the drain now that they are burdened by so many immigrants and illegals. Sure socialism works great in a small responsible, homogenous population with the same ethics and ideals but inevitably crumbles with a larger more diverse population.
He isn't promising free stuff...
You can say he's trying to make education and health care affordable, however his message to the young is "free". How do you think Obama took off...everyone expected "free" health care, not affordable. How is that mandatory tax "affordable", how about in a handful of years when the tax explodes and people will need a second mortgage to be able to afford "affordable' aka mandatory tax!?
The schools are raising the cost of an education becasue they can. Just like the housing market, there is a demand for money and the banks will take advantage. If people stopped taking out loans for school and instead set out a financial plan of working and going to school maybe students wouldn't need the banks to afford school and then maybe the schools wouldn't raise their prices so drastically. There is a problem with students taking out loans and not thinking of how they have to pay them back. Just becasue you goto college and graduate doesn't mean you're guarantee a job, so why take out massive debt? Now students are upset about paying their debt back and Sanders is taking advantage of them by suggesting school will be "free". Go ask Bernie supporters and majority will say they believe school will be "free".
Please stop saying other countries are better off with their subsidized health care and education. What is their population compared to the US? Are they really better off paying over 55% in taxes? You can't compare other countries to ours becasue they are not as populated as ours.
I agree the corporations are a major problem, if they raised their prices and paid for US employees I don't think the US population would have any issues with paying a bit more for their goods and services. Fact is all politicians are bought from corporations and big banks, Bernie is in that group as well.
Things aren't affordable anymore becasue people need the newest Iphone, their Jordan shoes, and a brand new car. What ever happened to setting out a plan and leaving frugal, like your parents probably did?
He isn't promising free stuff...
You can say he's trying to make education and health care affordable, however his message to the young is "free". How do you think Obama took off...everyone expected "free" health care, not affordable. How is that mandatory tax "affordable", how about in a handful of years when the tax explodes and people will need a second mortgage to be able to afford "affordable' aka mandatory tax!?
The schools are raising the cost of an education becasue they can. Just like the housing market, there is a demand for money and the banks will take advantage. If people stopped taking out loans for school and instead set out a financial plan of working and going to school maybe students wouldn't need the banks to afford school and then maybe the schools wouldn't raise their prices so drastically. There is a problem with students taking out loans and not thinking of how they have to pay them back. Just becasue you goto college and graduate doesn't mean you're guarantee a job, so why take out massive debt? Now students are upset about paying their debt back and Sanders is taking advantage of them by suggesting school will be "free". Go ask Bernie supporters and majority will say they believe school will be "free".
Please stop saying other countries are better off with their subsidized health care and education. What is their population compared to the US? Are they really better off paying over 55% in taxes? You can't compare other countries to ours becasue they are not as populated as ours.
I agree the corporations are a major problem, if they raised their prices and paid for US employees I don't think the US population would have any issues with paying a bit more for their goods and services. Fact is all politicians are bought from corporations and big banks, Bernie is in that group as well.
Things aren't affordable anymore becasue people need the newest Iphone, their Jordan shoes, and a brand new car. What ever happened to setting out a plan and leaving frugal, like your parents probably did?
If all Trump did his whole Presidency was get a wall built on the Southern border the effects of that would be far more beneficial than the sum total of anything the current presidency has done in the last two terms
If all Trump did his whole Presidency was get a wall built on the Southern border the effects of that would be far more beneficial than the sum total of anything the current presidency has done in the last two terms
Estimates are 10-20 billion, with an extra 1-2 billion per year to maintain and monitor. There are many direct and indirect ways to fund it. I think a significant aspect aside from funding methods is the old saying "A penny saved is a penny earned." Getting rid of, or even modestly reducing the indirect costs of illegals and drug smuggling to our country is worth much more than the cost of a secure border. The insurance and lost productivity costs alone of the current undeniable heroin epidemic is mind boggling.
This is an excerpt from Trump's website:
Make Mexico Pay For The Wall
For many years, Mexico’s leaders have been taking advantage of the United States by using illegal immigration to export the crime and poverty in their own country (as well as in other Latin American countries). They have even published pamphlets on how to illegally immigrate to the United States. The costs for the United States have been extraordinary: U.S. taxpayers have been asked to pick up hundreds of billions in healthcare costs, housing costs, education costs, welfare costs, etc. Indeed, the annual cost of free tax credits alone paid to illegal immigrants quadrupled to $4.2 billion in 2011. The effects on jobseekers have also been disastrous, and black Americans have been particularly harmed.
The impact in terms of crime has been tragic. In recent weeks, the headlines have been covered with cases of criminals who crossed our border illegally only to go on to commit horrific crimes against Americans. Most recently, an illegal immigrant from Mexico, with a long arrest record, is charged with breaking into a 64 year-old woman’s home, crushing her skull and eye sockets with a hammer, raping her, and murdering her. The Police Chief in Santa Maria says the “blood trail” leads straight to Washington.
In 2011, the Government Accountability Office found that there were a shocking 3 million arrests attached to the incarcerated alien population, including tens of thousands of violent beatings, rapes and murders.
Meanwhile, Mexico continues to make billions on not only our bad trade deals but also relies heavily on the billions of dollars in remittances sent from illegal immigrants in the United States back to Mexico ($22 billion in 2013 alone).
In short, the Mexican government has taken the United States to the cleaners. They are responsible for this problem, and they must help pay to clean it up.
The cost of building a permanent border wall pales mightily in comparison to what American taxpayers spend every single year on dealing with the fallout of illegal immigration on their communities, schools and unemployment offices.
Mexico must pay for the wall and, until they do, the United States will, among other things: impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages; increase fees on all temporary visas issued to Mexican CEOs and diplomats (and if necessary cancel them); increase fees on all border crossing cards – of which we issue about 1 million to Mexican nationals each year (a major source of visa overstays); increase fees on all NAFTA worker visas from Mexico (another major source of overstays); and increase fees at ports of entry to the United States from Mexico [Tariffs and foreign aid cuts are also options]. We will not be taken advantage of anymore.
Defend The Laws And Constitution Of The United States
America will only be great as long as America remains a nation of laws
that lives according to the Constitution. No one is above the law. The
following steps will return to the American people the safety of their
laws, which politicians have stolen from them:
It is debatable whether to believe him or not. Unlike other politicians though, given his track record as an aggressive businessman he is simply much less likely to compromise or turn his back on this issue. His ego is too big to accept failing on this.
Estimates are 10-20 billion, with an extra 1-2 billion per year to maintain and monitor. There are many direct and indirect ways to fund it. I think a significant aspect aside from funding methods is the old saying "A penny saved is a penny earned." Getting rid of, or even modestly reducing the indirect costs of illegals and drug smuggling to our country is worth much more than the cost of a secure border. The insurance and lost productivity costs alone of the current undeniable heroin epidemic is mind boggling.
This is an excerpt from Trump's website:
Make Mexico Pay For The Wall
For many years, Mexico’s leaders have been taking advantage of the United States by using illegal immigration to export the crime and poverty in their own country (as well as in other Latin American countries). They have even published pamphlets on how to illegally immigrate to the United States. The costs for the United States have been extraordinary: U.S. taxpayers have been asked to pick up hundreds of billions in healthcare costs, housing costs, education costs, welfare costs, etc. Indeed, the annual cost of free tax credits alone paid to illegal immigrants quadrupled to $4.2 billion in 2011. The effects on jobseekers have also been disastrous, and black Americans have been particularly harmed.
The impact in terms of crime has been tragic. In recent weeks, the headlines have been covered with cases of criminals who crossed our border illegally only to go on to commit horrific crimes against Americans. Most recently, an illegal immigrant from Mexico, with a long arrest record, is charged with breaking into a 64 year-old woman’s home, crushing her skull and eye sockets with a hammer, raping her, and murdering her. The Police Chief in Santa Maria says the “blood trail” leads straight to Washington.
In 2011, the Government Accountability Office found that there were a shocking 3 million arrests attached to the incarcerated alien population, including tens of thousands of violent beatings, rapes and murders.
Meanwhile, Mexico continues to make billions on not only our bad trade deals but also relies heavily on the billions of dollars in remittances sent from illegal immigrants in the United States back to Mexico ($22 billion in 2013 alone).
In short, the Mexican government has taken the United States to the cleaners. They are responsible for this problem, and they must help pay to clean it up.
The cost of building a permanent border wall pales mightily in comparison to what American taxpayers spend every single year on dealing with the fallout of illegal immigration on their communities, schools and unemployment offices.
Mexico must pay for the wall and, until they do, the United States will, among other things: impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages; increase fees on all temporary visas issued to Mexican CEOs and diplomats (and if necessary cancel them); increase fees on all border crossing cards – of which we issue about 1 million to Mexican nationals each year (a major source of visa overstays); increase fees on all NAFTA worker visas from Mexico (another major source of overstays); and increase fees at ports of entry to the United States from Mexico [Tariffs and foreign aid cuts are also options]. We will not be taken advantage of anymore.
Defend The Laws And Constitution Of The United States
America will only be great as long as America remains a nation of laws
that lives according to the Constitution. No one is above the law. The
following steps will return to the American people the safety of their
laws, which politicians have stolen from them:
It is debatable whether to believe him or not. Unlike other politicians though, given his track record as an aggressive businessman he is simply much less likely to compromise or turn his back on this issue. His ego is too big to accept failing on this.
Make Mexico pay for the border????
It wasn't what Trump said it was from an independent source
Make Mexico pay for the border????
It wasn't what Trump said it was from an independent source
I really don't get the disdain people seem to have for anyone supporting Trump. Intelligent people realize nothing will change voting for a politician, we have seen it all before. That's the main reason people criticizing Trump supporters voted for Obama, he just didn't work out (miserably). You may not like him or his personality, but to say Trump is a dope or stupid is just dishonest, come on.
I really don't get the disdain people seem to have for anyone supporting Trump. Intelligent people realize nothing will change voting for a politician, we have seen it all before. That's the main reason people criticizing Trump supporters voted for Obama, he just didn't work out (miserably). You may not like him or his personality, but to say Trump is a dope or stupid is just dishonest, come on.
I really don't get the disdain people seem to have for anyone supporting Trump. Intelligent people realize nothing will change voting for a politician, we have seen it all before. That's the main reason people criticizing Trump supporters voted for Obama, he just didn't work out (miserably). You may not like him or his personality, but to say Trump is a dope or stupid is just dishonest, come on.
I really don't get the disdain people seem to have for anyone supporting Trump. Intelligent people realize nothing will change voting for a politician, we have seen it all before. That's the main reason people criticizing Trump supporters voted for Obama, he just didn't work out (miserably). You may not like him or his personality, but to say Trump is a dope or stupid is just dishonest, come on.
Yeah but he is the best option. No one is saying he is near perfect, at least that I've seen on here. Yet his lack of experience (the exact same thing that made people vote for Obama, the same people who are criticizing Trump and his supporters now) is the reason he is appealing. What good are details and specifics from politicians whom we know won't do what they say anyway?
I truly think his behavior is strategic, as I think we have hit a point where many people find being politically correct more offensive than being offensive.
Yeah but he is the best option. No one is saying he is near perfect, at least that I've seen on here. Yet his lack of experience (the exact same thing that made people vote for Obama, the same people who are criticizing Trump and his supporters now) is the reason he is appealing. What good are details and specifics from politicians whom we know won't do what they say anyway?
I truly think his behavior is strategic, as I think we have hit a point where many people find being politically correct more offensive than being offensive.
What about the Democarts getting Bernie on board, he's not even a democrat. What does that tell you about their party? Look at Hillary, she was shoved in your face. Why is it only Bernie and Hillary? Why is there no other options? Hillary is a puppet, Bernie is a fraud who promises everything and will deliver nothing.
What about the Democarts getting Bernie on board, he's not even a democrat. What does that tell you about their party? Look at Hillary, she was shoved in your face. Why is it only Bernie and Hillary? Why is there no other options? Hillary is a puppet, Bernie is a fraud who promises everything and will deliver nothing.
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