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    I_Need_A_Detox
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2018 - 12:01 PM ET #226

    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt. 

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    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2018 - 5:37 PM ET #227

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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2018 - 7:16 PM ET #228

    I will never understand how people actively root for others to lose money, and then take joy from hearing about it.

    This is a byproduct of the internet.  There is no way - even to someone you didnt like - that this would ever happen in person.

    Call me a hippie or whatever you want, but it just isn't my cup of tea.

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    I will never understand how people actively root for others to lose money, and then take joy from hearing about it.

    This is a byproduct of the internet.  There is no way - even to someone you didnt like - that this would ever happen in person.

    Call me a hippie or whatever you want, but it just isn't my cup of tea.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2018 - 7:32 PM ET #229

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I will never understand how people actively root for others to lose money, and then take joy from hearing about it. This is a byproduct of the internet.  There is no way - even to someone you didnt like - that this would ever happen in person. Call me a hippie or whatever you want, but it just isn't my cup of tea.

    I agree but this isnt really about the investment. This is about two members who have crossed each other in the past and have a history which is carrying over into this subject.

    With that in mind if the two in question are unable to keep the fighting out of the mains, well it will likely lead to a suspension.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I will never understand how people actively root for others to lose money, and then take joy from hearing about it. This is a byproduct of the internet.  There is no way - even to someone you didnt like - that this would ever happen in person. Call me a hippie or whatever you want, but it just isn't my cup of tea.

    I agree but this isnt really about the investment. This is about two members who have crossed each other in the past and have a history which is carrying over into this subject.

    With that in mind if the two in question are unable to keep the fighting out of the mains, well it will likely lead to a suspension.

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2018 - 7:34 PM ET #230

    “OTC market demand for bitcoin right now is unlike anything I’ve ever witnessed. Several bids for multi-billion dollar blocks...”

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    “OTC market demand for bitcoin right now is unlike anything I’ve ever witnessed. Several bids for multi-billion dollar blocks...”

     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2018 - 7:36 PM ET #231

    Wall, you have to admit that “Tether has been flat at $1 for at least a month now” is a pretty good one. 


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    Wall, you have to admit that “Tether has been flat at $1 for at least a month now” is a pretty good one. 


     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2018 - 7:47 PM ET #232

    Goose, Lol - you set yourself up on that one

    I still enjoy your posts and find you quite humorous.
    But you know nothing about Crypto
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    Goose, Lol - you set yourself up on that one

    I still enjoy your posts and find you quite humorous.
    But you know nothing about Crypto
     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2018 - 8:23 PM ET #233

    Crypto currency lost another 10 percent across the board. Google has banned advertising for the media currency. Not sure how long the black market will continue to use this form of payment.
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    Crypto currency lost another 10 percent across the board. Google has banned advertising for the media currency. Not sure how long the black market will continue to use this form of payment.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2018 - 8:37 PM ET #234

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Wall, you have to admit that “Tether has been flat at $1 for at least a month now” is a pretty good one.

    Well I dont want to get in the middle of that with you both but yeah I saw it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Wall, you have to admit that “Tether has been flat at $1 for at least a month now” is a pretty good one.

    Well I dont want to get in the middle of that with you both but yeah I saw it.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2018 - 8:49 PM ET #235

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    “OTC market demand for bitcoin right now is unlike anything I’ve ever witnessed. Several bids for multi-billion dollar blocks...”

     

    Sorry but those are likely fake...the same way the fake machines paper bid stocks on up or flat days, its a way to push prices higher even though they are not wanting to get hit on the bid. 

    A better idea of bid/ask are on down days...the bid thins out and the true buyers are there, not when the market is dead like today..

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    “OTC market demand for bitcoin right now is unlike anything I’ve ever witnessed. Several bids for multi-billion dollar blocks...”

     

    Sorry but those are likely fake...the same way the fake machines paper bid stocks on up or flat days, its a way to push prices higher even though they are not wanting to get hit on the bid. 

    A better idea of bid/ask are on down days...the bid thins out and the true buyers are there, not when the market is dead like today..

     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2018 - 10:06 PM ET #236

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaufee:

    Goose, Lol - you set yourself up on that one

    I still enjoy your posts and find you quite humorous.
    But you know nothing about Crypto


    Kaufee

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    And WE are NOT the one who ADMITS he lost $21K.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaufee:

    Goose, Lol - you set yourself up on that one

    I still enjoy your posts and find you quite humorous.
    But you know nothing about Crypto


    Kaufee

    Don't want ANYTHING to do with ANY of this Snake Oil either.

    And WE are NOT the one who ADMITS he lost $21K.


    But I can do light bulbs too...






     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2018 - 10:13 PM ET #237

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I agree but this isnt really about the investment. This is about two members who have crossed each other in the past and have a history which is carrying over into this subject.

    With that in mind if the two in question are unable to keep the fighting out of the mains, well it will likely lead to a suspension.

    Then move this thread to the PB where it belongs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I agree but this isnt really about the investment. This is about two members who have crossed each other in the past and have a history which is carrying over into this subject.

    With that in mind if the two in question are unable to keep the fighting out of the mains, well it will likely lead to a suspension.

    Then move this thread to the PB where it belongs!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2018 - 9:48 AM ET #238

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Goose - might want to study up on what Tether is.

    https://cryptocurrencyfacts.com/what-is-tether/

    peace_5



    Van:  I see what tether is but two people can look at the same thing yet see different things.  In tether I see something that is not regulated, never been audited, market cap that has EXPLODED with zero evidence of sufficient backing... what I see is a scam.  And I take no joy in seeing other people lose money.  If you know anything about me you know I detest the Corporate Fukks™ and root for the small and local business people.  As evidence do you realize, for instance, how many "Mom & Pop" little stores have been completely obliterated by Wal-Mart?  But I digress.

    Getting back to tether, it's a parking lot for money that is FLAT.  For Kriest Sakes I park my money in a bank CD and get 2.5% so at least that's SOMETHING.  I suppose tether is just a vehicle for moving one Crypto to another and short term, it probably works.  But what happens when it gets hacked like last year and your one dollar turns into 80 cents?  Don't say it'll never happen again because it CAN.

    Finally, if you think worldwide governments are going to stand by idle and watch this Crypto Movie continue, well, that's NOT going to happen either.  It's just a matter of time.  And again, it's not my hope that investors get decimated in the meantime.

     


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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Goose - might want to study up on what Tether is.

    https://cryptocurrencyfacts.com/what-is-tether/

    peace_5



    Van:  I see what tether is but two people can look at the same thing yet see different things.  In tether I see something that is not regulated, never been audited, market cap that has EXPLODED with zero evidence of sufficient backing... what I see is a scam.  And I take no joy in seeing other people lose money.  If you know anything about me you know I detest the Corporate Fukks™ and root for the small and local business people.  As evidence do you realize, for instance, how many "Mom & Pop" little stores have been completely obliterated by Wal-Mart?  But I digress.

    Getting back to tether, it's a parking lot for money that is FLAT.  For Kriest Sakes I park my money in a bank CD and get 2.5% so at least that's SOMETHING.  I suppose tether is just a vehicle for moving one Crypto to another and short term, it probably works.  But what happens when it gets hacked like last year and your one dollar turns into 80 cents?  Don't say it'll never happen again because it CAN.

    Finally, if you think worldwide governments are going to stand by idle and watch this Crypto Movie continue, well, that's NOT going to happen either.  It's just a matter of time.  And again, it's not my hope that investors get decimated in the meantime.

     


     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2018 - 10:46 AM ET #239

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by vanzack: Goose - might want to study up on what Tether is. https://cryptocurrencyfacts.com/what-is-tether/ Van:  I see what tether is but two people can look at the same thing yet see different things.  In tether I see something that is not regulated, never been audited, market cap that has EXPLODED with zero evidence of sufficient backing... what I see is a scam.  And I take no joy in seeing other people lose money.  If you know anything about me you know I detest the Corporate Fukks™ and root for the small and local business people.  As evidence do you realize, for instance, how many "Mom & Pop" little stores have been completely obliterated by Wal-Mart?  But I digress.Getting back to tether, it's a parking lot for money that is FLAT.  For Kriest Sakes I park my money in a bank CD and get 2.5% so at least that's SOMETHING.  I suppose tether is just a vehicle for moving one Crypto to another and short term, it probably works.  But what happens when it gets hacked like last year and your one dollar turns into 80 cents?  Don't say it'll never happen again because it CAN.Finally, if you think worldwide governments are going to stand by idle and watch this Crypto Movie continue, well, that's NOT going to happen either.  It's just a matter of time.  And again, it's not my hope that investors get decimated in the meantime.

    All very good points, and all part of the risk profile.  This is definitely a high risk high reward (or loss) arena.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by vanzack: Goose - might want to study up on what Tether is. https://cryptocurrencyfacts.com/what-is-tether/ Van:  I see what tether is but two people can look at the same thing yet see different things.  In tether I see something that is not regulated, never been audited, market cap that has EXPLODED with zero evidence of sufficient backing... what I see is a scam.  And I take no joy in seeing other people lose money.  If you know anything about me you know I detest the Corporate Fukks™ and root for the small and local business people.  As evidence do you realize, for instance, how many "Mom & Pop" little stores have been completely obliterated by Wal-Mart?  But I digress.Getting back to tether, it's a parking lot for money that is FLAT.  For Kriest Sakes I park my money in a bank CD and get 2.5% so at least that's SOMETHING.  I suppose tether is just a vehicle for moving one Crypto to another and short term, it probably works.  But what happens when it gets hacked like last year and your one dollar turns into 80 cents?  Don't say it'll never happen again because it CAN.Finally, if you think worldwide governments are going to stand by idle and watch this Crypto Movie continue, well, that's NOT going to happen either.  It's just a matter of time.  And again, it's not my hope that investors get decimated in the meantime.

    All very good points, and all part of the risk profile.  This is definitely a high risk high reward (or loss) arena.

    peace_5peace

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2018 - 11:30 AM ET #240

    He read the link 

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    He read the link 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2018 - 2:28 PM ET #241

    Litecoin is up 13% today (and climbing, maybe?). While 13% is a huge day in the stock market, it's just another day in Crypto. The swings in both directions are something that Crytpo investors must get used to. We have become so accustomed to the way stocks trade that it doesn't feel right when the market moves 20% on little to no news.

    But that is how this market operates... at least for now. I do think at some point it will settle down with regulation. But for the foreseeable future, get used to it or get out of it.
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    Litecoin is up 13% today (and climbing, maybe?). While 13% is a huge day in the stock market, it's just another day in Crypto. The swings in both directions are something that Crytpo investors must get used to. We have become so accustomed to the way stocks trade that it doesn't feel right when the market moves 20% on little to no news.

    But that is how this market operates... at least for now. I do think at some point it will settle down with regulation. But for the foreseeable future, get used to it or get out of it.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2018 - 11:21 PM ET #242

    "" .... but that is how the market operates."" 


    On what fundamentals ? I know others here have chastised cryptos, but .... they are right, and this  is getting ridiculous.  Let's not forget this is a currency people.  It's not an investment, it's a trade !!!  



    Many of you guys here have no idea what you are doing, and dont's understand what the difference is between an investment and a trade.  Currencies are volatile and are not to be viewed as long term investments folks.

    This thread shall live on for a number of reasons..... 



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    "" .... but that is how the market operates."" 


    On what fundamentals ? I know others here have chastised cryptos, but .... they are right, and this  is getting ridiculous.  Let's not forget this is a currency people.  It's not an investment, it's a trade !!!  



    Many of you guys here have no idea what you are doing, and dont's understand what the difference is between an investment and a trade.  Currencies are volatile and are not to be viewed as long term investments folks.

    This thread shall live on for a number of reasons..... 



     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2018 - 12:14 AM ET #243

    Rush51, we’ve already been through this. BTC has transitioned into a store of of value as well as a digital currency. It is an investment! 
    Ethereum is a utility and it allows “smart contracts”. Investing in it now is like investing in a young tech company. It is an investment! Both currencies carry significant value at this point. 

    Since you probably have no idea what I’m talking about - Smart contracts allow programmers to bind two parties (dealing with financial transactions, such as bitcoin) without an intermediary needed. It cuts out the middleman. 

    Digital currencies decentralize the financial system and take leverage/power away from the banks. That’s why they do not like it... because they know it is the beginning of the end for them. Crypto investors are betting against the banks and on technological advances in the system. 

    I admit that many digital currencies will likely fail. But those that do not will become the future of the financial system. Some of us see this better than others...  and we’re putting our money where our mouths are.

    I personally feel that BTC and ETH are the nucleous of the market and will lead the way. That’s where my money is. If you think it’s ridiculous, then short the market. There are ways to do that. 

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    love this thread! Doesn’t it make you want to double down
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    Rush51, we’ve already been through this. BTC has transitioned into a store of of value as well as a digital currency. It is an investment! 
    Ethereum is a utility and it allows “smart contracts”. Investing in it now is like investing in a young tech company. It is an investment! Both currencies carry significant value at this point. 

    Since you probably have no idea what I’m talking about - Smart contracts allow programmers to bind two parties (dealing with financial transactions, such as bitcoin) without an intermediary needed. It cuts out the middleman. 

    Digital currencies decentralize the financial system and take leverage/power away from the banks. That’s why they do not like it... because they know it is the beginning of the end for them. Crypto investors are betting against the banks and on technological advances in the system. 

    I admit that many digital currencies will likely fail. But those that do not will become the future of the financial system. Some of us see this better than others...  and we’re putting our money where our mouths are.

    I personally feel that BTC and ETH are the nucleous of the market and will lead the way. That’s where my money is. If you think it’s ridiculous, then short the market. There are ways to do that. 

    If you’re a contrarian investor, you have to
    love this thread! Doesn’t it make you want to double down
     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2018 - 12:26 PM ET #244

    Crypto was like that last year if you follow the trend.

    i see bitcoin going over 20k by the end of 2018 Blockchain is here to stay.

    and for those who "HODL" will be rewarded.

    "Stay Winning"
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    Crypto was like that last year if you follow the trend.

    i see bitcoin going over 20k by the end of 2018 Blockchain is here to stay.

    and for those who "HODL" will be rewarded.

    "Stay Winning"
     
    666LES
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2018 - 4:13 PM ET #245

    "Follow the trend".........

    Heres a trend.....Robert Shiller,Yale economist and winner of Nobel Prize for Bubble Theory, has determined that with last Fridays drop in price by Bitcoin makes it the greatest bubble $% drop in History supplanting the Tulip Craze of 1634-1637.His theory of Irrational Exuberence in the creation of Bubbles requires a 'new' means of communicating or sharing info to ignite the Trend.It is no small matter that the invention of the Guggeheim Printing Press in the early 1600's lead to the wildfire speculation.
    Irrational Exuberence fits nicely with the Internet and the isolation/disregard for Facts that it encourages. 
    Another 'Trend'- first 3 months of 2018 greatest drop in Bitcoin history.Bitcoin is breaking 'new ground' everyday.
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    "Follow the trend".........

    Heres a trend.....Robert Shiller,Yale economist and winner of Nobel Prize for Bubble Theory, has determined that with last Fridays drop in price by Bitcoin makes it the greatest bubble $% drop in History supplanting the Tulip Craze of 1634-1637.His theory of Irrational Exuberence in the creation of Bubbles requires a 'new' means of communicating or sharing info to ignite the Trend.It is no small matter that the invention of the Guggeheim Printing Press in the early 1600's lead to the wildfire speculation.
    Irrational Exuberence fits nicely with the Internet and the isolation/disregard for Facts that it encourages. 
    Another 'Trend'- first 3 months of 2018 greatest drop in Bitcoin history.Bitcoin is breaking 'new ground' everyday.
     
    I_Need_A_Detox
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2018 - 6:29 PM ET #246

    On 4/9/17 BTC was $1175 and ETH was $44. Today, BTC is $6600 and ETH is $370. 

    Not bad for just experiencing the “biggest bubble drop in history”. 


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    On 4/9/17 BTC was $1175 and ETH was $44. Today, BTC is $6600 and ETH is $370. 

    Not bad for just experiencing the “biggest bubble drop in history”. 


     
    vanzack
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2018 - 7:22 PM ET #247

    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    Posted: about 3 hours ago "Quote" "Follow the trend".........Heres a trend.....Robert Shiller,Yale economist and winner of Nobel Prize for Bubble Theory, has determined that with last Fridays drop in price by Bitcoin makes it the greatest bubble $% drop in History supplanting the Tulip Craze of 1634-1637.His theory of Irrational Exuberence in the creation of Bubbles requires a 'new' means of communicating or sharing info to ignite the Trend.It is no small matter that the invention of the Guggeheim Printing Press in the early 1600's lead to the wildfire speculation.Irrational Exuberence fits nicely with the Internet and the isolation/disregard for Facts that it encourages. Another 'Trend'- first 3 months of 2018 greatest drop in Bitcoin history.Bitcoin is breaking 'new ground' everyday.

     

    BTC is up 600% in the last year.

    There is a real trend for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    Posted: about 3 hours ago "Quote" "Follow the trend".........Heres a trend.....Robert Shiller,Yale economist and winner of Nobel Prize for Bubble Theory, has determined that with last Fridays drop in price by Bitcoin makes it the greatest bubble $% drop in History supplanting the Tulip Craze of 1634-1637.His theory of Irrational Exuberence in the creation of Bubbles requires a 'new' means of communicating or sharing info to ignite the Trend.It is no small matter that the invention of the Guggeheim Printing Press in the early 1600's lead to the wildfire speculation.Irrational Exuberence fits nicely with the Internet and the isolation/disregard for Facts that it encourages. Another 'Trend'- first 3 months of 2018 greatest drop in Bitcoin history.Bitcoin is breaking 'new ground' everyday.

     

    BTC is up 600% in the last year.

    There is a real trend for you.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2018 - 1:09 AM ET #248

    Crypto is short for cryptography. Cryptography is computer technology that’s used for securing and hiding information. Add currency to cryptography and you have crypto currency. 

    I believe what people misunderstand is that crypto investors aren’t simply investing in a currency blindly hoping it appreciates. 

    We’re investing in the technology behind the currency. If the technology behind the currency solves real world problems, the currency will then appreciate. That’s what we’re betting on.

    666les, can you can wrap your little brain around that?

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    Crypto is short for cryptography. Cryptography is computer technology that’s used for securing and hiding information. Add currency to cryptography and you have crypto currency. 

    I believe what people misunderstand is that crypto investors aren’t simply investing in a currency blindly hoping it appreciates. 

    We’re investing in the technology behind the currency. If the technology behind the currency solves real world problems, the currency will then appreciate. That’s what we’re betting on.

    666les, can you can wrap your little brain around that?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2018 - 8:14 AM ET #249

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Posted: Feb. 2, 2018 - 4:04 PM ET "Quote" Anyone have any idea what nature1970 is talking about?
    between feb 2 and today bitcoin has lost 25% of its value. It lost 60% of its value since January. When it hit 15 g if we understand mathematics and we can see this as a negative exponential graft by August bit coin will be slightly under 5000 losing 20percent of its value by Chris mas well under 4000 losing another 18percent.... can you sell these chips shorts... cause it seems to be going downhill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Posted: Feb. 2, 2018 - 4:04 PM ET "Quote" Anyone have any idea what nature1970 is talking about?
    between feb 2 and today bitcoin has lost 25% of its value. It lost 60% of its value since January. When it hit 15 g if we understand mathematics and we can see this as a negative exponential graft by August bit coin will be slightly under 5000 losing 20percent of its value by Chris mas well under 4000 losing another 18percent.... can you sell these chips shorts... cause it seems to be going downhill.

     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2018 - 8:40 AM ET #250

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Posted: 25 minutes ago "Quote" Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Posted: Feb. 2, 2018 - 4:04 PM ET "Quote" Anyone have any idea what nature1970 is talking about? between feb 2 and today bitcoin has lost 25% of its value. It lost 60% of its value since January. When it hit 15 g if we understand mathematics and we can see this as a negative exponential graft by August bit coin will be slightly under 5000 losing 20percent of its value by Chris mas well under 4000 losing another 18percent.... can you sell these chips shorts... cause it seems to be going downhill.

    an_roll_laugh

    Funny that you think you can apply a linear math model to future asset prices.  Even funnier with Cryptocurrency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Posted: 25 minutes ago "Quote" Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Posted: Feb. 2, 2018 - 4:04 PM ET "Quote" Anyone have any idea what nature1970 is talking about? between feb 2 and today bitcoin has lost 25% of its value. It lost 60% of its value since January. When it hit 15 g if we understand mathematics and we can see this as a negative exponential graft by August bit coin will be slightly under 5000 losing 20percent of its value by Chris mas well under 4000 losing another 18percent.... can you sell these chips shorts... cause it seems to be going downhill.

    an_roll_laugh

    Funny that you think you can apply a linear math model to future asset prices.  Even funnier with Cryptocurrency.

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