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    Covid Hoax Exposed?

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    Daddy_Freddie
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2020 - 4:02 AM ET #1

    The Nashville Mayor’s office colluded with Nashville Health Department to hide actual COVID-19 numbers from the city because the numbers were so low.
    They wanted to hide this from the citizens.<br>

    They hid the low numbers from their constituents.<br>

    On June 30th, contact tracing was giving a small view of coronavirus clusters. Construction and nursing homes causing problems more than a thousand cases traced to each category, but bars and restaurants reported just 22 cases. Leslie Waller from the health department asks “This isn’t going to be publicly released, right? Just info for Mayor’s Office?<br>

    “Correct, not for public consumption.” Writes senior advisor Benjamin Eagles<br>

    A month later the health department is asked point blank about the rumor there are only 80 cases traced to bars and restaurants. Tennessean reporter Nate Rau asks “the figure you gave of “more than 80” does lead to a natural question: If there have been over 20,000 positive cases of COVID-19 in Davidson and only 80 or so are traced to restaurants and bars, doesn’t that mean restaurants and bars aren’t a very big problem?<br>

    Health department official Brian Todd asks 5 health department officials: Please advise how you recommend I respond. BT The name at the top of the response was clipped off but you may find the answer unacceptable. “My two cents. We have certainly refused to give counts per bar because those numbers are low per site."<br>

    We could still release the total though, and then a response to the over 80 could be “because that number is increasing all the time and we don’t want to say a specific number. Neither the health department or the mayor’s office would confirm the authenticity of the emails but councilmember Steve Glover had a metro staff attorney inquire. Here’s the official answer:<br>

    “I was able to get verification from the Mayor’s Office and the Department of Health that these emails are real” answered the staff attorney.<br>

    The story is at The Gateway Pundit 

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    The Nashville Mayor’s office colluded with Nashville Health Department to hide actual COVID-19 numbers from the city because the numbers were so low.
    They wanted to hide this from the citizens.<br>

    They hid the low numbers from their constituents.<br>

    On June 30th, contact tracing was giving a small view of coronavirus clusters. Construction and nursing homes causing problems more than a thousand cases traced to each category, but bars and restaurants reported just 22 cases. Leslie Waller from the health department asks “This isn’t going to be publicly released, right? Just info for Mayor’s Office?<br>

    “Correct, not for public consumption.” Writes senior advisor Benjamin Eagles<br>

    A month later the health department is asked point blank about the rumor there are only 80 cases traced to bars and restaurants. Tennessean reporter Nate Rau asks “the figure you gave of “more than 80” does lead to a natural question: If there have been over 20,000 positive cases of COVID-19 in Davidson and only 80 or so are traced to restaurants and bars, doesn’t that mean restaurants and bars aren’t a very big problem?<br>

    Health department official Brian Todd asks 5 health department officials: Please advise how you recommend I respond. BT The name at the top of the response was clipped off but you may find the answer unacceptable. “My two cents. We have certainly refused to give counts per bar because those numbers are low per site."<br>

    We could still release the total though, and then a response to the over 80 could be “because that number is increasing all the time and we don’t want to say a specific number. Neither the health department or the mayor’s office would confirm the authenticity of the emails but councilmember Steve Glover had a metro staff attorney inquire. Here’s the official answer:<br>

    “I was able to get verification from the Mayor’s Office and the Department of Health that these emails are real” answered the staff attorney.<br>

    The story is at The Gateway Pundit 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2020 - 4:12 AM ET #2

    Sorry for the poor editing on the post...I'll take one for the team 

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    Sorry for the poor editing on the post...I'll take one for the team 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2020 - 4:16 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy_Freddie:

    The Nashville Mayor’s office colluded with Nashville Health Department to hide actual COVID-19 numbers from the city because the numbers were so low.They wanted to hide this from the citizens.
    They hid the low numbers from their constituents.
    On June 30th, contact tracing was giving a small view of coronavirus clusters. Construction and nursing homes causing problems more than a thousand cases traced to each category, but bars and restaurants reported just 22 cases. Leslie Waller from the health department asks “This isn’t going to be publicly released, right? Just info for Mayor’s Office?
    “Correct, not for public consumption.” Writes senior advisor Benjamin Eagles
    A month later the health department is asked point blank about the rumor there are only 80 cases traced to bars and restaurants. Tennessean reporter Nate Rau asks “the figure you gave of “more than 80” does lead to a natural question: If there have been over 20,000 positive cases of COVID-19 in Davidson and only 80 or so are traced to restaurants and bars, doesn’t that mean restaurants and bars aren’t a very big problem?
    Health department official Brian Todd asks 5 health department officials: Please advise how you recommend I respond. BT The name at the top of the response was clipped off but you may find the answer unacceptable. “My two cents. We have certainly refused to give counts per bar because those numbers are low per site."
    We could still release the total though, and then a response to the over 80 could be “because that number is increasing all the time and we don’t want to say a specific number. Neither the health department or the mayor’s office would confirm the authenticity of the emails but councilmember Steve Glover had a metro staff attorney inquire. Here’s the official answer:
    “I was able to get verification from the Mayor’s Office and the Department of Health that these emails are real” answered the staff attorney.
    The story is at The Gateway Pundit

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy_Freddie:

    The Nashville Mayor’s office colluded with Nashville Health Department to hide actual COVID-19 numbers from the city because the numbers were so low.They wanted to hide this from the citizens.
    They hid the low numbers from their constituents.
    On June 30th, contact tracing was giving a small view of coronavirus clusters. Construction and nursing homes causing problems more than a thousand cases traced to each category, but bars and restaurants reported just 22 cases. Leslie Waller from the health department asks “This isn’t going to be publicly released, right? Just info for Mayor’s Office?
    “Correct, not for public consumption.” Writes senior advisor Benjamin Eagles
    A month later the health department is asked point blank about the rumor there are only 80 cases traced to bars and restaurants. Tennessean reporter Nate Rau asks “the figure you gave of “more than 80” does lead to a natural question: If there have been over 20,000 positive cases of COVID-19 in Davidson and only 80 or so are traced to restaurants and bars, doesn’t that mean restaurants and bars aren’t a very big problem?
    Health department official Brian Todd asks 5 health department officials: Please advise how you recommend I respond. BT The name at the top of the response was clipped off but you may find the answer unacceptable. “My two cents. We have certainly refused to give counts per bar because those numbers are low per site."
    We could still release the total though, and then a response to the over 80 could be “because that number is increasing all the time and we don’t want to say a specific number. Neither the health department or the mayor’s office would confirm the authenticity of the emails but councilmember Steve Glover had a metro staff attorney inquire. Here’s the official answer:
    “I was able to get verification from the Mayor’s Office and the Department of Health that these emails are real” answered the staff attorney.
    The story is at The Gateway Pundit

     

    an_cheers

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2020 - 7:25 AM ET #4

    Thanks...

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    Thanks...

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2020 - 7:36 AM ET #5

    Mediabiasfactcheck rates gateway pundit as a questionable source known for promoting conspiracies and fake news.  Extreme bias, low factual reporting and failed IFCN fact checks.

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    Mediabiasfactcheck rates gateway pundit as a questionable source known for promoting conspiracies and fake news.  Extreme bias, low factual reporting and failed IFCN fact checks.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2020 - 7:45 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Mediabiasfactcheck rates gateway pundit as a questionable source known for promoting conspiracies and fake news.  Extreme bias, low factual reporting and failed IFCN fact checks.

    If you watched Tucker Carlson last night he opened with this story. Just Google the headline and you'll see. https://fox17.com/news/local/covid-19-emails-from-nashville-mayors-office-show-disturbing-revelation

    This is directly from Nashville...wow...what else do you need?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Mediabiasfactcheck rates gateway pundit as a questionable source known for promoting conspiracies and fake news.  Extreme bias, low factual reporting and failed IFCN fact checks.

    If you watched Tucker Carlson last night he opened with this story. Just Google the headline and you'll see. https://fox17.com/news/local/covid-19-emails-from-nashville-mayors-office-show-disturbing-revelation

    This is directly from Nashville...wow...what else do you need?

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2020 - 7:53 AM ET #7

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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2020 - 10:45 PM ET #8

    Tennessee Dept of Health

    As of 2pm on 9/18/2020

    180,497 current case count

    2,196 Deaths

    736 currently hospitalized

    163,181 sickness recoveries

    Currently Tennessee has a 6.78% infection rate.

    If Nashville hasn't been seriously hit, then it is only a matter of time. an_light

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    Tennessee Dept of Health

    As of 2pm on 9/18/2020

    180,497 current case count

    2,196 Deaths

    736 currently hospitalized

    163,181 sickness recoveries

    Currently Tennessee has a 6.78% infection rate.

    If Nashville hasn't been seriously hit, then it is only a matter of time. an_light

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2020 - 5:17 PM ET #9

    This story was retracted.  Typical of Fox/Republicans - sloppy reporting make a nonstory headline news for a week, then issue a 30 second retraction when no one is watching.

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    This story was retracted.  Typical of Fox/Republicans - sloppy reporting make a nonstory headline news for a week, then issue a 30 second retraction when no one is watching.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:

    Tennessee Dept of Health As of 2pm on 9/18/2020 180,497 current case count 2,196 Deaths 736 currently hospitalized 163,181 sickness recoveries Currently Tennessee has a 6.78% infection rate. If Nashville hasn't been seriously hit, then it is only a matter of time.

    The Tennessee Rate of Infection is 2.1%     Not 6.78%    That is closer to the positivity test rate  peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:

    Tennessee Dept of Health As of 2pm on 9/18/2020 180,497 current case count 2,196 Deaths 736 currently hospitalized 163,181 sickness recoveries Currently Tennessee has a 6.78% infection rate. If Nashville hasn't been seriously hit, then it is only a matter of time.

    The Tennessee Rate of Infection is 2.1%     Not 6.78%    That is closer to the positivity test rate  peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose: Tennessee Dept of Health As of 2pm on 9/18/2020 180,497 current case count 2,196 Deaths 736 currently hospitalized 163,181 sickness recoveries Currently Tennessee has a 6.78% infection rate. If Nashville hasn't been seriously hit, then it is only a matter of time. The Tennessee Rate of Infection is 2.1%     Not 6.78%    That is closer to the positivity test rate

    Yes, my previous post was incorrect.  Thanks for pointing out that error. peace_5

    As of 9/21/20 I'm seeing the rate of infection for Tennessee is 2.687%.

    Louisiana leads the USA with an infection rate of 3.468%

    Source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109004/coronavirus-covid19-cases-rate-us-americans-by-state/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose: Tennessee Dept of Health As of 2pm on 9/18/2020 180,497 current case count 2,196 Deaths 736 currently hospitalized 163,181 sickness recoveries Currently Tennessee has a 6.78% infection rate. If Nashville hasn't been seriously hit, then it is only a matter of time. The Tennessee Rate of Infection is 2.1%     Not 6.78%    That is closer to the positivity test rate

    Yes, my previous post was incorrect.  Thanks for pointing out that error. peace_5

    As of 9/21/20 I'm seeing the rate of infection for Tennessee is 2.687%.

    Louisiana leads the USA with an infection rate of 3.468%

    Source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109004/coronavirus-covid19-cases-rate-us-americans-by-state/

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2020 - 5:13 PM ET #12

    Like everybody else I want ACCURATE information...I seen this just now and really don't know what to believe. 

    There have now been 48,299 coronavirus cases reported at 37 universities in the United States.

    Of those cases there have been ONLY 2 hospitalizations.

    And there have been ZERO DEATHS!

    They couldn’t even sneak in a cancer victim into their counts because no one died!

    This report was filed by Dr. Andrew Bostom 

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/scam-48299-covid-19-cases-37-us-universities-2-hospitalizations-zero-deaths-likely-killed-dog/

    Have they really been scamming on the numbers? 

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    Like everybody else I want ACCURATE information...I seen this just now and really don't know what to believe. 

    There have now been 48,299 coronavirus cases reported at 37 universities in the United States.

    Of those cases there have been ONLY 2 hospitalizations.

    And there have been ZERO DEATHS!

    They couldn’t even sneak in a cancer victim into their counts because no one died!

    This report was filed by Dr. Andrew Bostom 

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/scam-48299-covid-19-cases-37-us-universities-2-hospitalizations-zero-deaths-likely-killed-dog/

    Have they really been scamming on the numbers? 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2020 - 8:48 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy_Freddie:

    The Nashville Mayor’s office colluded with Nashville Health Department to hide actual COVID-19 numbers from the city because the numbers were so low.They wanted to hide this from the citizens.
    They hid the low numbers from their constituents.
    On June 30th, contact tracing was giving a small view of coronavirus clusters. Construction and nursing homes causing problems more than a thousand cases traced to each category, but bars and restaurants reported just 22 cases. Leslie Waller from the health department asks “This isn’t going to be publicly released, right? Just info for Mayor’s Office?
    “Correct, not for public consumption.” Writes senior advisor Benjamin Eagles
    A month later the health department is asked point blank about the rumor there are only 80 cases traced to bars and restaurants. Tennessean reporter Nate Rau asks “the figure you gave of “more than 80” does lead to a natural question: If there have been over 20,000 positive cases of COVID-19 in Davidson and only 80 or so are traced to restaurants and bars, doesn’t that mean restaurants and bars aren’t a very big problem?
    Health department official Brian Todd asks 5 health department officials: Please advise how you recommend I respond. BT The name at the top of the response was clipped off but you may find the answer unacceptable. “My two cents. We have certainly refused to give counts per bar because those numbers are low per site."
    We could still release the total though, and then a response to the over 80 could be “because that number is increasing all the time and we don’t want to say a specific number. Neither the health department or the mayor’s office would confirm the authenticity of the emails but councilmember Steve Glover had a metro staff attorney inquire. Here’s the official answer:
    “I was able to get verification from the Mayor’s Office and the Department of Health that these emails are real” answered the staff attorney.
    The story is at The Gateway Pundit

    GATEWAY PUNDIT same as trump news (Fox) and Breitbart, PROPAGANDA

    GATEWAY PUNDIT same propaganda as Fox News Breitbart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy_Freddie:

    The Nashville Mayor’s office colluded with Nashville Health Department to hide actual COVID-19 numbers from the city because the numbers were so low.They wanted to hide this from the citizens.
    They hid the low numbers from their constituents.
    On June 30th, contact tracing was giving a small view of coronavirus clusters. Construction and nursing homes causing problems more than a thousand cases traced to each category, but bars and restaurants reported just 22 cases. Leslie Waller from the health department asks “This isn’t going to be publicly released, right? Just info for Mayor’s Office?
    “Correct, not for public consumption.” Writes senior advisor Benjamin Eagles
    A month later the health department is asked point blank about the rumor there are only 80 cases traced to bars and restaurants. Tennessean reporter Nate Rau asks “the figure you gave of “more than 80” does lead to a natural question: If there have been over 20,000 positive cases of COVID-19 in Davidson and only 80 or so are traced to restaurants and bars, doesn’t that mean restaurants and bars aren’t a very big problem?
    Health department official Brian Todd asks 5 health department officials: Please advise how you recommend I respond. BT The name at the top of the response was clipped off but you may find the answer unacceptable. “My two cents. We have certainly refused to give counts per bar because those numbers are low per site."
    We could still release the total though, and then a response to the over 80 could be “because that number is increasing all the time and we don’t want to say a specific number. Neither the health department or the mayor’s office would confirm the authenticity of the emails but councilmember Steve Glover had a metro staff attorney inquire. Here’s the official answer:
    “I was able to get verification from the Mayor’s Office and the Department of Health that these emails are real” answered the staff attorney.
    The story is at The Gateway Pundit

    GATEWAY PUNDIT same as trump news (Fox) and Breitbart, PROPAGANDA

    GATEWAY PUNDIT same propaganda as Fox News Breitbart.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy_Freddie:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Mediabiasfactcheck rates gateway pundit as a questionable source known for promoting conspiracies and fake news.  Extreme bias, low factual reporting and failed IFCN fact checks. If you watched Tucker Carlson last night he opened with this story. Just Google the headline and you'll see. https://fox17.com/news/local/covid-19-emails-from-nashville-mayors-office-show-disturbing-revelation This is directly from Nashville...wow...what else do you need?

     

    Tucker Carlson, NO BIAS THERE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy_Freddie:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Mediabiasfactcheck rates gateway pundit as a questionable source known for promoting conspiracies and fake news.  Extreme bias, low factual reporting and failed IFCN fact checks. If you watched Tucker Carlson last night he opened with this story. Just Google the headline and you'll see. https://fox17.com/news/local/covid-19-emails-from-nashville-mayors-office-show-disturbing-revelation This is directly from Nashville...wow...what else do you need?

     

    Tucker Carlson, NO BIAS THERE.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    This story was retracted.  Typical of Fox/Republicans - sloppy reporting make a nonstory headline news for a week, then issue a 30 second retraction when no one is watching.

    Difference being, when the mainstream Marxist media gets caught reporting a lie, they NEVER apologize, correct or retract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    This story was retracted.  Typical of Fox/Republicans - sloppy reporting make a nonstory headline news for a week, then issue a 30 second retraction when no one is watching.

    Difference being, when the mainstream Marxist media gets caught reporting a lie, they NEVER apologize, correct or retract.

     
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    The way the numbers are reported in the US are intentionally deceiving 

    China has done the most tests of any country in the world. China has allegedly performed 160,000,000 tests. There are 1.4 billion people in China. 

    The US has performed the 2nd most tests in the world. The US has performed 104,336,000 tests. There are 330 million people in the US. 

    The US counts corona deaths as anyone that has died WITH corona. No other cause of death is counted this way. To be counted as a flu death you need die FROM the flu, not WITH the flu. 

    Lets compare it to the Swine Flu. The Swine Flu hit from April 2009 to April 2010. The CDC estimates that there were 61 million cases in the US, 275,000 hospitalizations and only 12,000 deaths. 

    Since 3,000,000 people die every year. And 61 million people had the swine flu, the number of people that died WITH the Swine Flu would have been astronomically higher than 12,000. 

    The media is fake. Anyone that is still living in quarantine is a moron. And anyone with an IQ above room temperature should know that surgical masks and neck gaiters do nothing to stop the spread of viruses. 

    peace_5

     

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    The way the numbers are reported in the US are intentionally deceiving 

    China has done the most tests of any country in the world. China has allegedly performed 160,000,000 tests. There are 1.4 billion people in China. 

    The US has performed the 2nd most tests in the world. The US has performed 104,336,000 tests. There are 330 million people in the US. 

    The US counts corona deaths as anyone that has died WITH corona. No other cause of death is counted this way. To be counted as a flu death you need die FROM the flu, not WITH the flu. 

    Lets compare it to the Swine Flu. The Swine Flu hit from April 2009 to April 2010. The CDC estimates that there were 61 million cases in the US, 275,000 hospitalizations and only 12,000 deaths. 

    Since 3,000,000 people die every year. And 61 million people had the swine flu, the number of people that died WITH the Swine Flu would have been astronomically higher than 12,000. 

    The media is fake. Anyone that is still living in quarantine is a moron. And anyone with an IQ above room temperature should know that surgical masks and neck gaiters do nothing to stop the spread of viruses. 

    peace_5

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The way the numbers are reported in the US are intentionally deceiving  China has done the most tests of any country in the world. China has allegedly performed 160,000,000 tests. There are 1.4 billion people in China.  The US has performed the 2nd most tests in the world. The US has performed 104,336,000 tests. There are 330 million people in the US.  The US counts corona deaths as anyone that has died WITH corona. No other cause of death is counted this way. To be counted as a flu death you need die FROM the flu, not WITH the flu.  Lets compare it to the Swine Flu. The Swine Flu hit from April 2009 to April 2010. The CDC estimates that there were 61 million cases in the US, 275,000 hospitalizations and only 12,000 deaths.  Since 3,000,000 people die every year. And 61 million people had the swine flu, the number of people that died WITH the Swine Flu would have been astronomically higher than 12,000.  The media is fake. Anyone that is still living in quarantine is a moron. And anyone with an IQ above room temperature should know that surgical masks and neck gaiters do nothing to stop the spread of viruses.

     

    STOP THE DISINFORMATION: ARE YOU RUSSIAN? Nobody dies of Covid 19 just like nobody ever dies of Aids. People die because the virus causes immunity, allowing the body to die of other causes like respiratory failure, shock, diabetes and cardiac arrhythmia. Death certificates do not have a check box for Covid 19. The numbers are not intentionally deceiving and if anything, deaths are under estimated. The media is not FAKE unless you're watching Fox Propaganda or listening to Limbaugh Lies. It sounds like you've swallowed the Qanon Kool Aid.

    The main thing that is fake is the FAT ASS FILTH living in the White House. Covid would be in the rear view mirror by now if the Orange Filth had not encouraged idiots to go maskless. Yes maskless like dead asshole Herman Fking Cain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The way the numbers are reported in the US are intentionally deceiving  China has done the most tests of any country in the world. China has allegedly performed 160,000,000 tests. There are 1.4 billion people in China.  The US has performed the 2nd most tests in the world. The US has performed 104,336,000 tests. There are 330 million people in the US.  The US counts corona deaths as anyone that has died WITH corona. No other cause of death is counted this way. To be counted as a flu death you need die FROM the flu, not WITH the flu.  Lets compare it to the Swine Flu. The Swine Flu hit from April 2009 to April 2010. The CDC estimates that there were 61 million cases in the US, 275,000 hospitalizations and only 12,000 deaths.  Since 3,000,000 people die every year. And 61 million people had the swine flu, the number of people that died WITH the Swine Flu would have been astronomically higher than 12,000.  The media is fake. Anyone that is still living in quarantine is a moron. And anyone with an IQ above room temperature should know that surgical masks and neck gaiters do nothing to stop the spread of viruses.

     

    STOP THE DISINFORMATION: ARE YOU RUSSIAN? Nobody dies of Covid 19 just like nobody ever dies of Aids. People die because the virus causes immunity, allowing the body to die of other causes like respiratory failure, shock, diabetes and cardiac arrhythmia. Death certificates do not have a check box for Covid 19. The numbers are not intentionally deceiving and if anything, deaths are under estimated. The media is not FAKE unless you're watching Fox Propaganda or listening to Limbaugh Lies. It sounds like you've swallowed the Qanon Kool Aid.

    The main thing that is fake is the FAT ASS FILTH living in the White House. Covid would be in the rear view mirror by now if the Orange Filth had not encouraged idiots to go maskless. Yes maskless like dead asshole Herman Fking Cain.

     
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    I agree Detox needs Detox . TRUMP IS FAT FOOL. If he caught this & time & did something like getting masks & ventilators to hospitals in time. We save a lot lives. Biden 2020. 

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    I agree Detox needs Detox . TRUMP IS FAT FOOL. If he caught this & time & did something like getting masks & ventilators to hospitals in time. We save a lot lives. Biden 2020. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The way the numbers are reported in the US are intentionally deceiving  China has done the most tests of any country in the world. China has allegedly performed 160,000,000 tests. There are 1.4 billion people in China.  The US has performed the 2nd most tests in the world. The US has performed 104,336,000 tests. There are 330 million people in the US.  The US counts corona deaths as anyone that has died WITH corona. No other cause of death is counted this way. To be counted as a flu death you need die FROM the flu, not WITH the flu.  Lets compare it to the Swine Flu. The Swine Flu hit from April 2009 to April 2010. The CDC estimates that there were 61 million cases in the US, 275,000 hospitalizations and only 12,000 deaths.  Since 3,000,000 people die every year. And 61 million people had the swine flu, the number of people that died WITH the Swine Flu would have been astronomically higher than 12,000.  The media is fake. Anyone that is still living in quarantine is a moron. And anyone with an IQ above room temperature should know that surgical masks and neck gaiters do nothing to stop the spread of viruses.

    No. You don't die from the flu. You die with the flu - technically you die from e.g. a heart attack..

    Same with Covid-19. If you have the disease you can die from a clot - technically you die from a clot, not Covid-19. However you wouldn't have had a heart attack if it wasn't for Covid-19.

     

    If we use your insane definition then there's nothing you can die from - a knife through the heart, cause of death: Cardiac arrest (knife is irrelevant).. Cancer in both lungs - death cause: anoxia (Cancer irrelevant).

     

    If people die but they would be alive hadn't they been infected by Corona then they are dead by/from Corona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The way the numbers are reported in the US are intentionally deceiving  China has done the most tests of any country in the world. China has allegedly performed 160,000,000 tests. There are 1.4 billion people in China.  The US has performed the 2nd most tests in the world. The US has performed 104,336,000 tests. There are 330 million people in the US.  The US counts corona deaths as anyone that has died WITH corona. No other cause of death is counted this way. To be counted as a flu death you need die FROM the flu, not WITH the flu.  Lets compare it to the Swine Flu. The Swine Flu hit from April 2009 to April 2010. The CDC estimates that there were 61 million cases in the US, 275,000 hospitalizations and only 12,000 deaths.  Since 3,000,000 people die every year. And 61 million people had the swine flu, the number of people that died WITH the Swine Flu would have been astronomically higher than 12,000.  The media is fake. Anyone that is still living in quarantine is a moron. And anyone with an IQ above room temperature should know that surgical masks and neck gaiters do nothing to stop the spread of viruses.

    No. You don't die from the flu. You die with the flu - technically you die from e.g. a heart attack..

    Same with Covid-19. If you have the disease you can die from a clot - technically you die from a clot, not Covid-19. However you wouldn't have had a heart attack if it wasn't for Covid-19.

     

    If we use your insane definition then there's nothing you can die from - a knife through the heart, cause of death: Cardiac arrest (knife is irrelevant).. Cancer in both lungs - death cause: anoxia (Cancer irrelevant).

     

    If people die but they would be alive hadn't they been infected by Corona then they are dead by/from Corona.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2020 - 3:52 PM ET #20

    Hypothetically, if someone died in a motorcycle crash and tested positive for corona, that person would be counted as a corona death in some states. 

    A flu death would never be counted like that.

    There are numerous examples of people getting diagnosed with stage 4 cancer, given a few weeks to live, testing positive for corona, and getting labeled as a corona death.

    Why?   

     

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    Hypothetically, if someone died in a motorcycle crash and tested positive for corona, that person would be counted as a corona death in some states. 

    A flu death would never be counted like that.

    There are numerous examples of people getting diagnosed with stage 4 cancer, given a few weeks to live, testing positive for corona, and getting labeled as a corona death.

    Why?   

     

     
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    Source 

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kgw.com/amp/article/news/investigations/questions-over-the-accuracy-of-how-the-state-tracks-covid-deaths/283-0b1b7b6c-695e-4313-92cf-a4cfd7510721

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    Source 

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kgw.com/amp/article/news/investigations/questions-over-the-accuracy-of-how-the-state-tracks-covid-deaths/283-0b1b7b6c-695e-4313-92cf-a4cfd7510721

     
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    Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox]Hypothetically, if someone died in a motorcycle crash and tested positive for corona, that person would be counted as a corona death in some states.  A flu death would never be counted like that. There are numerous examples of people getting diagnosed with stage 4 cancer, given a few weeks to live, testing positive for corona, and getting labeled as a corona death. Why?[/Quote]

    lol this isn’t even remotely being close to being true. I interact with doctors all the time, including the heads of ICUs. They get angry calls from the coroners when they list Covid as a cause of death on the death certificate because it creates extra paperwork for the already flooded coroners’ offices (because Covid needs to be reported to state agencies). Instead of listing Covid, doctors are listing “non-Covid” stuff like CAD, CHF, respiratory failure, pneumonia, etc. Furthermore, these same heads of the ICUs tell you not to trust death certificates for this reason - that and the fact that there’s only one small line to list cause of death. 

    having read death certificates before, that’s been my personal experience too. Well before the pandemic the cause of death on a death certificate was frequently unreliable. 

    Political and bureaucratic pressure exists to underreport Covid. That’s why all of Trump’s experts (Fauci, Redfield, Birx) have all suggested that the number of deaths has been underreported. 

    TBH, I suspect the actual number is somewhere around 300,000 to 500,000 dead. 

    If you don’t believe it’s real, talk to doctors instead of reading and relying the most politically-biased crap you found online. The doctors will try to save your life. The Gateway Pundit doesn’t care if you die.

     

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    Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox]Hypothetically, if someone died in a motorcycle crash and tested positive for corona, that person would be counted as a corona death in some states.  A flu death would never be counted like that. There are numerous examples of people getting diagnosed with stage 4 cancer, given a few weeks to live, testing positive for corona, and getting labeled as a corona death. Why?[/Quote]

    lol this isn’t even remotely being close to being true. I interact with doctors all the time, including the heads of ICUs. They get angry calls from the coroners when they list Covid as a cause of death on the death certificate because it creates extra paperwork for the already flooded coroners’ offices (because Covid needs to be reported to state agencies). Instead of listing Covid, doctors are listing “non-Covid” stuff like CAD, CHF, respiratory failure, pneumonia, etc. Furthermore, these same heads of the ICUs tell you not to trust death certificates for this reason - that and the fact that there’s only one small line to list cause of death. 

    having read death certificates before, that’s been my personal experience too. Well before the pandemic the cause of death on a death certificate was frequently unreliable. 

    Political and bureaucratic pressure exists to underreport Covid. That’s why all of Trump’s experts (Fauci, Redfield, Birx) have all suggested that the number of deaths has been underreported. 

    TBH, I suspect the actual number is somewhere around 300,000 to 500,000 dead. 

    If you don’t believe it’s real, talk to doctors instead of reading and relying the most politically-biased crap you found online. The doctors will try to save your life. The Gateway Pundit doesn’t care if you die.

     

     
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    Hospitals are incentivized to list corona 

    Do you think they care about an additional 20% or Billy from the coroners office complaining about the paperwork 

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    Hospitals are incentivized to list corona 

    Do you think they care about an additional 20% or Billy from the coroners office complaining about the paperwork 

     
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    What is listed on the death certificate doesn’t impact their ability to bill for Covid. You’re making a giant assumption that the death certificate negates their billing, when it has absolutely no role in the billing analysis whatsoever. 

    This is the kind of stuff you’d know if you talked to doctors instead of believing everything you read on right wing conspiracy sites.

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    What is listed on the death certificate doesn’t impact their ability to bill for Covid. You’re making a giant assumption that the death certificate negates their billing, when it has absolutely no role in the billing analysis whatsoever. 

    This is the kind of stuff you’d know if you talked to doctors instead of believing everything you read on right wing conspiracy sites.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Source  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kgw.com/amp/article/news/investigations/questions-over-the-accuracy-of-how-the-state-tracks-covid-deaths/283-0b1b7b6c-695e-4313-92cf-a4cfd7510721

    How is this a right wing conspiracy site 

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Source  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kgw.com/amp/article/news/investigations/questions-over-the-accuracy-of-how-the-state-tracks-covid-deaths/283-0b1b7b6c-695e-4313-92cf-a4cfd7510721

    How is this a right wing conspiracy site 

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