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    Could the Florida shooting sway Black/Hispanic Americans to vote for Trump now?

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    SwishSwish1234
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 8:02 AM ET #1

    I just went through reading all the victim's names and 90 % were Black and Hispanic, If they thought radical Muslim's were angry only with White Americans/person/Christians and corporate establishments, Then unfortunately they're wrong. 

    Surely this might throw a curve ball into the thinking of Blacks/Hispanics on who they vote for? 
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    I just went through reading all the victim's names and 90 % were Black and Hispanic, If they thought radical Muslim's were angry only with White Americans/person/Christians and corporate establishments, Then unfortunately they're wrong. 

    Surely this might throw a curve ball into the thinking of Blacks/Hispanics on who they vote for? 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 9:19 AM ET #2

    as mitt romney said,

    "donald trump is playing the american public for suckers"


    "Here's what I know. Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud. His promises are as worthless as a degree from Trump University."
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    as mitt romney said,

    "donald trump is playing the american public for suckers"


    "Here's what I know. Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud. His promises are as worthless as a degree from Trump University."
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 9:30 AM ET #3


    No. 

    First of all don't shot me, I'm just the messenger.

    There is ZERO chance of Trump being elected POTUS. 
    This guy is a loose cannon who more often speaks before thinking.  Rest assured there is no way Trump gets the Nuke codes.

    HRC and the Dems are masters of winning the State-by-State Electoral Votes.

    To actually win the Presidency, Trump would have to defeat HRC in EVERY  of the so called, "battleground" States.  Trump would have to sweep Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, Win them all, or else Hillary is your next POTUS.  I think the bar is far too high for Trump to make that jump.





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    No. 

    First of all don't shot me, I'm just the messenger.

    There is ZERO chance of Trump being elected POTUS. 
    This guy is a loose cannon who more often speaks before thinking.  Rest assured there is no way Trump gets the Nuke codes.

    HRC and the Dems are masters of winning the State-by-State Electoral Votes.

    To actually win the Presidency, Trump would have to defeat HRC in EVERY  of the so called, "battleground" States.  Trump would have to sweep Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, Win them all, or else Hillary is your next POTUS.  I think the bar is far too high for Trump to make that jump.





     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 9:33 AM ET #4

    When voting between a murderer and a rapist, you're still gonna end up with a criminal.
    Whoever becomes president will be bought out anyway. I don't understand why people still vote. 
    There needs to be a complete revolution. Stop letting these satanists run the country.
    The people are the ones who should be setting the paradigm not them.

    Though among the current candidates, Trump would be my winner because he annoys the establishment. Complete opposite of that pos robot barrack who reads from a card no matter where he is. Agenda pushing piece of dog excrement he is. 
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    When voting between a murderer and a rapist, you're still gonna end up with a criminal.
    Whoever becomes president will be bought out anyway. I don't understand why people still vote. 
    There needs to be a complete revolution. Stop letting these satanists run the country.
    The people are the ones who should be setting the paradigm not them.

    Though among the current candidates, Trump would be my winner because he annoys the establishment. Complete opposite of that pos robot barrack who reads from a card no matter where he is. Agenda pushing piece of dog excrement he is. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 9:34 AM ET #5

    Good post Goose, However one thing i have to ask, Does anyone actually like Hillary for being Hillary or is it more of a lesser of two evils for some people? I've seen pro Trump Americans on covers and few other forums etc, I've seen anti Trump Americans, I've seen pro Sanders and i've seen anti Sanders, I haven't yet come across one person who is wholeheartedly backing Hillary for President.
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    Good post Goose, However one thing i have to ask, Does anyone actually like Hillary for being Hillary or is it more of a lesser of two evils for some people? I've seen pro Trump Americans on covers and few other forums etc, I've seen anti Trump Americans, I've seen pro Sanders and i've seen anti Sanders, I haven't yet come across one person who is wholeheartedly backing Hillary for President.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 10:09 AM ET #6

    At this point in time it is the lesser of two Evils.  Many people will vote for the Devil they know rather the Devil they don't.

    I will caution, however, here are too many random variables yet to be introduced into this Campaign.  Selection of Running Mates, The VP Debates, The POTUS Debates.  These head-to-head Debates can and sometimes will, allow a candidate to break away.

    Should be an interesting next few months.  Keep your eyes on the "Battleground States". because that's where it will all be decided.

    One last important thing... There is a Minority Party, the Libertarians, a faction of the Republicans who believe in less taxes and favor an isolationist policy of Foreign Affairs.  They will siphon off between 1% to 3% of Trump's votes.  And that could cost him the election by denying him a Battleground State.

    It's happened before.  Green Party Candidate Ralph Nader siphoned off 2% of the vote in Florida in 2000 which took votes away from Al Gore and GW Bush won Florida with a razor thin victory and with it, The Presidency.
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    At this point in time it is the lesser of two Evils.  Many people will vote for the Devil they know rather the Devil they don't.

    I will caution, however, here are too many random variables yet to be introduced into this Campaign.  Selection of Running Mates, The VP Debates, The POTUS Debates.  These head-to-head Debates can and sometimes will, allow a candidate to break away.

    Should be an interesting next few months.  Keep your eyes on the "Battleground States". because that's where it will all be decided.

    One last important thing... There is a Minority Party, the Libertarians, a faction of the Republicans who believe in less taxes and favor an isolationist policy of Foreign Affairs.  They will siphon off between 1% to 3% of Trump's votes.  And that could cost him the election by denying him a Battleground State.

    It's happened before.  Green Party Candidate Ralph Nader siphoned off 2% of the vote in Florida in 2000 which took votes away from Al Gore and GW Bush won Florida with a razor thin victory and with it, The Presidency.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 11:00 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    I just went through reading all the victim's names and 90 % were Black and Hispanic, If they thought radical Muslim's were angry only with White Americans/person/Christians and corporate establishments, Then unfortunately they're wrong. 

    Surely this might throw a curve ball into the thinking of Blacks/Hispanics on who they vote for? 



    Just to correct one thing - it's all starting to come out now. He didn't do this because he's Muslim, he did it because he's g@y, and frustrated, and would have brought shame and ridicule upon his family if he came out. Being Muslim was just the cover to hide behind. 

    Is it still an "act of terror"? - Yes
    Do we still need stricter gun laws and background checks? - Sure
    But don't get the reasoning behind the motive confused, this is more Columbine than San Bernardino.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    I just went through reading all the victim's names and 90 % were Black and Hispanic, If they thought radical Muslim's were angry only with White Americans/person/Christians and corporate establishments, Then unfortunately they're wrong. 

    Surely this might throw a curve ball into the thinking of Blacks/Hispanics on who they vote for? 



    Just to correct one thing - it's all starting to come out now. He didn't do this because he's Muslim, he did it because he's g@y, and frustrated, and would have brought shame and ridicule upon his family if he came out. Being Muslim was just the cover to hide behind. 

    Is it still an "act of terror"? - Yes
    Do we still need stricter gun laws and background checks? - Sure
    But don't get the reasoning behind the motive confused, this is more Columbine than San Bernardino.....
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 11:06 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    No. 

    First of all don't shot me, I'm just the messenger.

    There is ZERO chance of Trump being elected POTUS. 
    This guy is a loose cannon who more often speaks before thinking.  Rest assured there is no way Trump gets the Nuke codes.

    HRC and the Dems are masters of winning the State-by-State Electoral Votes.

    To actually win the Presidency, Trump would have to defeat HRC in EVERY  of the so called, "battleground" States.  Trump would have to sweep Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, Win them all, or else Hillary is your next POTUS.  I think the bar is far too high for Trump to make that jump.





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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    No. 

    First of all don't shot me, I'm just the messenger.

    There is ZERO chance of Trump being elected POTUS. 
    This guy is a loose cannon who more often speaks before thinking.  Rest assured there is no way Trump gets the Nuke codes.

    HRC and the Dems are masters of winning the State-by-State Electoral Votes.

    To actually win the Presidency, Trump would have to defeat HRC in EVERY  of the so called, "battleground" States.  Trump would have to sweep Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, Win them all, or else Hillary is your next POTUS.  I think the bar is far too high for Trump to make that jump.





     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 1:26 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    Good post Goose, However one thing i have to ask, Does anyone actually like Hillary for being Hillary or is it more of a lesser of two evils for some people? I've seen pro Trump Americans on covers and few other forums etc, I've seen anti Trump Americans, I've seen pro Sanders and i've seen anti Sanders, I haven't yet come across one person who is wholeheartedly backing Hillary for President.


    once again it is "the lesser of two weasels" with Hillary. at least I know "the b!tch" will NOT steal my social security and medicare coverage I worked for my whole life. Trump just might and also would appoint Scalia and Alito style fascists to the Supreme Court
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    Good post Goose, However one thing i have to ask, Does anyone actually like Hillary for being Hillary or is it more of a lesser of two evils for some people? I've seen pro Trump Americans on covers and few other forums etc, I've seen anti Trump Americans, I've seen pro Sanders and i've seen anti Sanders, I haven't yet come across one person who is wholeheartedly backing Hillary for President.


    once again it is "the lesser of two weasels" with Hillary. at least I know "the b!tch" will NOT steal my social security and medicare coverage I worked for my whole life. Trump just might and also would appoint Scalia and Alito style fascists to the Supreme Court
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 2:41 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    Trump has no chance. Hillary's welfare breeders don't care about any of this.
    Could you be more insufferable? Think for yourself for once in your life and stop spewing this lemming talk you pick up from the media and/or your social circles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    Trump has no chance. Hillary's welfare breeders don't care about any of this.
    Could you be more insufferable? Think for yourself for once in your life and stop spewing this lemming talk you pick up from the media and/or your social circles.


     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 2:46 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by GimmeMoneyNow:




    Just to correct one thing - it's all starting to come out now. He didn't do this because he's Muslim, he did it because he's g@y, and frustrated, and would have brought shame and ridicule upon his family if he came out. Being Muslim was just the cover to hide behind. 

    Is it still an "act of terror"? - Yes
    Do we still need stricter gun laws and background checks? - Sure
    But don't get the reasoning behind the motive confused, this is more Columbine than San Bernardino.....
    Once again, many happy people live in the closet never hurting anyone but maybe themselves with suicide.  Islam is the deadly ingredient here.  

    Insane how people can still question motives and causes when the killer is on tape telling you what they are.  

    We have people claiming it's a false flag conspiracy, and others claiming gun laws and repressed homosexuality are to blame.  Meanwhile this fuker shouted blah blah Akhbar before shooting and called 911 to say what he is doing and why he is doing it.  Occam's razor ain't some foreign guy's shaving tool people!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GimmeMoneyNow:




    Just to correct one thing - it's all starting to come out now. He didn't do this because he's Muslim, he did it because he's g@y, and frustrated, and would have brought shame and ridicule upon his family if he came out. Being Muslim was just the cover to hide behind. 

    Is it still an "act of terror"? - Yes
    Do we still need stricter gun laws and background checks? - Sure
    But don't get the reasoning behind the motive confused, this is more Columbine than San Bernardino.....
    Once again, many happy people live in the closet never hurting anyone but maybe themselves with suicide.  Islam is the deadly ingredient here.  

    Insane how people can still question motives and causes when the killer is on tape telling you what they are.  

    We have people claiming it's a false flag conspiracy, and others claiming gun laws and repressed homosexuality are to blame.  Meanwhile this fuker shouted blah blah Akhbar before shooting and called 911 to say what he is doing and why he is doing it.  Occam's razor ain't some foreign guy's shaving tool people!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

     Think for yourself for once in your life and stop spewing this lemming talk you pick up from the media and/or your social circles.


    If you have any integrity how about make up your own word instead of plagiarizing "lemming", which I first used on here to describe you logically challenged white guilter PC zombies.   
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

     Think for yourself for once in your life and stop spewing this lemming talk you pick up from the media and/or your social circles.


    If you have any integrity how about make up your own word instead of plagiarizing "lemming", which I first used on here to describe you logically challenged white guilter PC zombies.   
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thecentaur:

    If you have any integrity how about make up your own word instead of plagiarizing "lemming", which I first used on here to describe you logically challenged white guilter PC zombies.   
    So now anyone who rejects the GOP establishment and their united lunacy is "plagiarizing" if they use the best word to describe the troglodytes therein. Ya can't make it up!


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    Quote Originally Posted by thecentaur:

    If you have any integrity how about make up your own word instead of plagiarizing "lemming", which I first used on here to describe you logically challenged white guilter PC zombies.   
    So now anyone who rejects the GOP establishment and their united lunacy is "plagiarizing" if they use the best word to describe the troglodytes therein. Ya can't make it up!


     
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    I think there's a lot more Hispanics that will vote for Trump than you think.  I have 3 Hispanic friends who will be voting for him. However most I know don't like him.    I have one black friend who will be voting for him as well.  No reason for blacks to hate him.  But here in Chicago, dems rule.  So most will be voting for Hillary.  
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    I think there's a lot more Hispanics that will vote for Trump than you think.  I have 3 Hispanic friends who will be voting for him. However most I know don't like him.    I have one black friend who will be voting for him as well.  No reason for blacks to hate him.  But here in Chicago, dems rule.  So most will be voting for Hillary.  
     
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    Yes absolutely.Trump will remind Hispanics and other people of color weekly that this country is not safe any longer for them and their 10 kids per household. 
    This event may very well put him into the white house. He has Hillary and the Obama administration very close to the ropes.
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    Yes absolutely.Trump will remind Hispanics and other people of color weekly that this country is not safe any longer for them and their 10 kids per household. 
    This event may very well put him into the white house. He has Hillary and the Obama administration very close to the ropes.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 10:45 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    I just went through reading all the victim's names and 90 % were Black and Hispanic, If they thought radical Muslim's were angry only with White Americans/person/Christians and corporate establishments, Then unfortunately they're wrong. 

    Surely this might throw a curve ball into the thinking of Blacks/Hispanics on who they vote for? 
    How did you know they were black and not white from reading names?  Really ethnic sounding names?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    I just went through reading all the victim's names and 90 % were Black and Hispanic, If they thought radical Muslim's were angry only with White Americans/person/Christians and corporate establishments, Then unfortunately they're wrong. 

    Surely this might throw a curve ball into the thinking of Blacks/Hispanics on who they vote for? 
    How did you know they were black and not white from reading names?  Really ethnic sounding names?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 11:28 PM ET #17

    trump calls american born latinos mexican and that doesnt bother latinos?


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    trump calls american born latinos mexican and that doesnt bother latinos?


     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2016 - 2:11 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    So now anyone who rejects the GOP establishment and their united lunacy is "plagiarizing" if they use the best word to describe the troglodytes therein. Ya can't make it up!



    You can use it just properly cite it 

    For example, "Those Trump supporters are lemmings(1)"

    (1)First used on Covers by thecentaur to describe leftopathic illogicals who unwaveringly and blindly follow the PC/liberal agenda
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    So now anyone who rejects the GOP establishment and their united lunacy is "plagiarizing" if they use the best word to describe the troglodytes therein. Ya can't make it up!



    You can use it just properly cite it 

    For example, "Those Trump supporters are lemmings(1)"

    (1)First used on Covers by thecentaur to describe leftopathic illogicals who unwaveringly and blindly follow the PC/liberal agenda
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2016 - 10:14 AM ET #19

    everyone is jumping off the trump band wagon

    hell, if the president makes it an executive order to keep mental people from purchasing guns. the Donald wont be able to purchase one.

    the donald is a baboon who speaks his mind. and apparently his mind is not all there.
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    everyone is jumping off the trump band wagon

    hell, if the president makes it an executive order to keep mental people from purchasing guns. the Donald wont be able to purchase one.

    the donald is a baboon who speaks his mind. and apparently his mind is not all there.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2016 - 12:27 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    No. 

    First of all don't shot me, I'm just the messenger.

    There is ZERO chance of Trump being elected POTUS. 
    This guy is a loose cannon who more often speaks before thinking.  Rest assured there is no way Trump gets the Nuke codes.

    HRC and the Dems are masters of winning the State-by-State Electoral Votes.

    To actually win the Presidency, Trump would have to defeat HRC in EVERY  of the so called, "battleground" States.  Trump would have to sweep Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, Win them all, or else Hillary is your next POTUS.  I think the bar is far too high for Trump to make that jump.






    I find this funny considering there's been 44 male presidents and 0 women. I sort of like Trump's chances bases off this historical fact alone...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    No. 

    First of all don't shot me, I'm just the messenger.

    There is ZERO chance of Trump being elected POTUS. 
    This guy is a loose cannon who more often speaks before thinking.  Rest assured there is no way Trump gets the Nuke codes.

    HRC and the Dems are masters of winning the State-by-State Electoral Votes.

    To actually win the Presidency, Trump would have to defeat HRC in EVERY  of the so called, "battleground" States.  Trump would have to sweep Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, Win them all, or else Hillary is your next POTUS.  I think the bar is far too high for Trump to make that jump.






    I find this funny considering there's been 44 male presidents and 0 women. I sort of like Trump's chances bases off this historical fact alone...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2016 - 1:28 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by kjrpat1:


    I find this funny considering there's been 44 male presidents and 0 women. I sort of like Trump's chances bases off this historical fact alone...

    We also never had a mulatto president who was Muslim turned Christian before.  

    Is their any kind of documentation that supports that he's an actual Christian?  

    I don't know about other Christian religions, but being Roman Catholic, I received documents from each church where I received my Baptism, Communion and Confirmation.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by kjrpat1:


    I find this funny considering there's been 44 male presidents and 0 women. I sort of like Trump's chances bases off this historical fact alone...

    We also never had a mulatto president who was Muslim turned Christian before.  

    Is their any kind of documentation that supports that he's an actual Christian?  

    I don't know about other Christian religions, but being Roman Catholic, I received documents from each church where I received my Baptism, Communion and Confirmation.  
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2016 - 7:26 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    No. 

    First of all don't shot me, I'm just the messenger.

    There is ZERO chance of Trump being elected POTUS. 
    This guy is a loose cannon who more often speaks before thinking.  Rest assured there is no way Trump gets the Nuke codes.

    HRC and the Dems are masters of winning the State-by-State Electoral Votes.

    To actually win the Presidency, Trump would have to defeat HRC in EVERY  of the so called, "battleground" States.  Trump would have to sweep Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, Win them all, or else Hillary is your next POTUS.  I think the bar is far too high for Trump to make that jump.






    If you actually believe this, you will put every penny of your net worth (included borrowing money) on "field"

    But you are not doing that are you?  So basically you like the hyperbole

    What will your odds for Trump be after the FBI releases the HRC report?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    No. 

    First of all don't shot me, I'm just the messenger.

    There is ZERO chance of Trump being elected POTUS. 
    This guy is a loose cannon who more often speaks before thinking.  Rest assured there is no way Trump gets the Nuke codes.

    HRC and the Dems are masters of winning the State-by-State Electoral Votes.

    To actually win the Presidency, Trump would have to defeat HRC in EVERY  of the so called, "battleground" States.  Trump would have to sweep Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, Win them all, or else Hillary is your next POTUS.  I think the bar is far too high for Trump to make that jump.






    If you actually believe this, you will put every penny of your net worth (included borrowing money) on "field"

    But you are not doing that are you?  So basically you like the hyperbole

    What will your odds for Trump be after the FBI releases the HRC report?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2018 - 5:39 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by kjrpat1: I find this funny considering there's been 44 male presidents and 0 women. I sort of like Trump's chances bases off this historical fact alone... We also never had a mulatto president who was Muslim turned Christian before.  Is their any kind of documentation that supports that he's an actual Christian?  I don't know about other Christian religions, but being Roman Catholic, I received documents from each church where I received my Baptism, Communion and Confirmation.

     

    seems like I was correct. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by kjrpat1: I find this funny considering there's been 44 male presidents and 0 women. I sort of like Trump's chances bases off this historical fact alone... We also never had a mulatto president who was Muslim turned Christian before.  Is their any kind of documentation that supports that he's an actual Christian?  I don't know about other Christian religions, but being Roman Catholic, I received documents from each church where I received my Baptism, Communion and Confirmation.

     

    seems like I was correct. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2018 - 6:49 PM ET #24

    “There is ZERO chance of Trump being elected POTUS” 

    Good call TheGoldenGoose 

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    “There is ZERO chance of Trump being elected POTUS” 

    Good call TheGoldenGoose 

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2018 - 6:52 PM ET #25

    You dug this old thread up to say you were correct 18 months after the fact? Must’ve been a slow day at Walmart
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    You dug this old thread up to say you were correct 18 months after the fact? Must’ve been a slow day at Walmart
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