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HutchEmAll

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 3:44 PM ET #101

You are such a fool. What witnesses? And do you think it's possible that a jetliner with 6,000+ gallons of fuel crashing into a building (with debris and fuel falling down through the building) might cause some misc. explosions?

4) Bombs Going Off At Ground Zero. Literally hundreds of eyewitness heard and saw numerous explosions going off at Ground Zero, including an explosion in Tower 1 seconds before the

first plane hit. There were reports of explosions at the base of the towers before they fell. Many of these eyewitnesses were seen live on TV as events unfolded.

HutchEmAll

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 3:45 PM ET #102

Here is one witness on record. You are so funny.

Here’s how Rodriguez initially described the first sounds:

"We heard a loud rumble, then all of a sudden we heard another rumble like someone moving a whole lot of furniture," Rodriguez said. "and then the elevator opened and a man came into our office and all of his skin was off."

He doesn’t say anything about an explosion. If the sound in the basement level was a bomb, what was it for? It certainly had no effect on the columns.

Larry_Legend

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 3:55 PM ET #103

So you have one witness of many, who states hearing multiple rumbles, and your argument is that he said 'rumble' rather than 'explosion'???

Do you want me to find a witness that mentions explosion?

That can easily be done but nevermind that... lets pretend you won #4 listed ... how about the other 21?

HutchEmAll

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 4:01 PM ET #104

there is absolutely no way you can get a turbine

engine that runs hot at 1800 Degrees Fahrenheit to incinerate., specifically when there wasn’t much of a fire.

wasn't much of a fire

All eyewitnesses....and their stories all sound VERY similar. So they are all in on it too? Even the church leaders?

https://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blflight77w.htm

Larry_Legend

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 4:10 PM ET #105

So the only four planes in history to completely incinerate, showing no black boxes, or remnants of plane, or bodies, all occurred within hours of each other?

And I'm being called the wacko...

HutchEmAll

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 4:10 PM ET #106

All these people describe the same thing. Idiot.

No fire

"There's no landing strip on that side of the subway tracks."'

'My first thought was he's not going to make it across the river to [Reagan] National Airport. But whoever was flying the plane made no attempt to change direction,' Sucherman said.

"My first thought was just 'No, no, no, no,' because it was obvious the plane was not heading to nearby Reagan National Airport. It was going to crash."

"There was an explosion and a loud noise and I felt the impact. I remember seeing a fireball come out of two windows (of the Pentagon). I saw an explosion of fire billowing through those two windows.'"

"Huge explosion, great ball of fire, smoke started billowing out"

"I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire."

"I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball. Then black smoke. Then white smoke."

"I'd just heard them saying on the radio that National Airport was closing, and I thought, "That's not going to make it to National Airport." And then I realized where I was, and that it was going to hit the Pentagon. There was a burst of orange flame that shot out that I could see through the highway overpass. Then it was just black. Just black, thick smoke.'"

HutchEmAll

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 4:12 PM ET #107

Quote Originally Posted by Larry_Legend:

So the only four planes in history to completely incinerate, showing no black boxes, or remnants of plane, or bodies, all occurred within hours of each other?

And I'm being called the wacko...

All bodies were identified you nitwit.

HutchEmAll

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 4:21 PM ET #108

Do you want me to find a witness that mentions explosion?

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This is what you don't get. One person's "rumble" is another person's "explosion." And explosion isn't evidence of a bomb. Most explosions in this world are NOT from a bomb. Fact.

Some specific quotes along with some very good follow up questions:

" I got, uh, an eyewitness who said there was an explosion on floors 7 and 8, 7,8. "

Yes. Is that evidence of a bomb?

" Battalion 3 to Dispatch, we've just had another explosion. " Yes. Is that evidence of a bomb?

" ...Warren Street, because of the secondary explosion. " Yes. Is that evidence of a bomb?

" We've got numerous people covered with dust from the secondary explosion. "

Yes. Is that evidence of a bomb?

" We got another explosion on the Tower, 10-13, 10-13. " Yes. Is that evidence of a bomb?

HutchEmAll

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 4:31 PM ET #109

Quote Originally Posted by Larry_Legend:

So you have one witness of many, who states hearing multiple rumbles, and your argument is that he said 'rumble' rather than 'explosion'???

Do you want me to find a witness that mentions explosion?

That can easily be done but nevermind that... lets pretend you won #4 listed ... how about the other 21?

And the buildings didn't collapse due to an "explosion" on the lower floors. WTF is your point anyway?

HutchEmAll

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 4:38 PM ET #110

"USAToday.com Editor Joel Sucherman saw it all: an American Airlines jetliner fly left to right across his field of vision as he commuted to work Tuesday morning. It was highly unusual. The large plane was 20 feet off the ground and a mere 50 to 75 yards from his windshield. Two seconds later and before he could see if the landing gear was down or any of the horror-struck faces inside, the plane slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon 100 yards away.

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USA Today editor!!.....don't you think he would love to break the story of the year? Missile flies into the pentagon!

That is what I love about conspiracy theorists. If this guy would have said he saw a missile slam into the Pentagon, he'd be their key witness. But since he doesn't support their conclusions, he's summarily dismissed.

Larry_Legend

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 6:34 PM ET #111

Wait, how did the buildings collapse then Hutch?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUzrHHDu96U&feature=related

Even the mayor of shanksville said there was no airplane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8waY7QHS60

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It5JC45KMGo&feature=related

Your only argument is the speculation that someone who works for the military industrial complex owned media is not lieing to you. You are a joke.

topcornermax

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 7:40 PM ET #112

Things like this are so frustrating and a waste of time.

TRAIN69

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 7:41 PM ET #113

All of the bodies from all 4 planes were identified? That seems a little convient dont you think? If the 6,000 gallons of jet fuel can melt steel and cause a skyscraper to fall, imagine what if would do to flesh and bones.....There is ZERO chance they identified all the people on the twin tower crashes from remains. If you believe that, intellect has escaped you.

HutchEmAll

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 7:58 PM ET #114

Wow....just wow.

Train....burning jet fuel can't melt steel. You are summarily dismissed as ignorant.

HutchEmAll

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 8:01 PM ET #115

And you see how Larry_Moron doesn't even address the fire issue? He moves on because he has no argument.

LMAO. Could you idiots be more transparent?

HutchEmAll

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 8:03 PM ET #116

And notice how he moves on from "explosions" at the WTC and now starts talking about Shanksville.

HutchEmAll

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 8:06 PM ET #117

Even the mayor of shanksville said there was no airplane.

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And he witnessed what? Is he an investigator? Where is his evidence?

You are a complete moron.

TRAIN69

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 8:26 PM ET #118

Then why did the buildings collapse? What exactly did the jet fuel do?

Regardless, you didnt answer my question about them identifying all passengers. Typical.

bill702

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 8:49 PM ET #119

Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

Then why did the buildings collapse? What exactly did the jet fuel do?

Regardless, you didnt answer my question about them identifying all passengers. Typical.

Steel melts at above 2000 F. I highly doubt the temp got that high, but it loses its structural properties well below that temp. Slovak was talking about the bodies in the Pa crash not the wtc.

TRAIN69

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 9:01 PM ET #120

When I say "melt", I mean weaken severely, not "melt" like and ice cream cone in Phoenix.....

Why is everybody on this site so fucked in the head?

bill702

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Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 9:07 PM ET #121

Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

When I say "melt", I mean weaken severely, not "melt" like and ice cream cone in Phoenix.....

Why is everybody on this site so fucked in the head?

Oops haha took it literal as there are a bunch of people that have said it melted as in liquified. My fault. As the bodies part I would call bullshit if they identified any of the passengers in the wtc. However, in Pa easily could have.