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    Connectin 9/11, Aurora, and the 2012 Olympics.... time to wake up...

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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2012 - 6:51 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by Larry_Legend:

    Wrong. 

    The total payout is 4.55 billion.. which covers all costs.

    https://911blogger.com/news/2011-04-18/did-wtc-owner-larry-silverstein-just-make-another-12-billion-911


    This is true.  Do you know why the payment was for that even though he had it insured for less?   
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry_Legend:

    Wrong. 

    The total payout is 4.55 billion.. which covers all costs.

    https://911blogger.com/news/2011-04-18/did-wtc-owner-larry-silverstein-just-make-another-12-billion-911


    This is true.  Do you know why the payment was for that even though he had it insured for less?   
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2012 - 6:57 PM ET #27

    From Loose Change.  This is from the 2nd edition so it had already been edited once.  

    Before its destruction, the plane flew a total of 16 hours and 22 minutes, including 10 takeoffs, 69 approaches, and 13 landings.

    10 takoffs
    13 landings

    Name me a plane this is capable of this  
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    From Loose Change.  This is from the 2nd edition so it had already been edited once.  

    Before its destruction, the plane flew a total of 16 hours and 22 minutes, including 10 takeoffs, 69 approaches, and 13 landings.

    10 takoffs
    13 landings

    Name me a plane this is capable of this  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2012 - 7:04 PM ET #28

    And here is what I said:  Why would he leave himself short on insurance (which he DID as it was insured for $3.5 billion; not enough to re-build) if he knew the buildings were coming down?

    I never said anything about the payout $.  I just said he was insured for less and could have easily lost a bundle.  But he ended up getting lucky.  Do you know why that is?

    This is the way conspiracy freaks work.  They come up with their solution and then go back and try and make the information support it by leaving out certain facts or details.

    So the CT says:  See, he took out insurance prior to the attacks and got paid $4.55 million dollars from the insurance company.  

    But they fail to leave out the specific information which makes it all perfectly logical.  Because it doesn't support their conclusions.  


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    And here is what I said:  Why would he leave himself short on insurance (which he DID as it was insured for $3.5 billion; not enough to re-build) if he knew the buildings were coming down?

    I never said anything about the payout $.  I just said he was insured for less and could have easily lost a bundle.  But he ended up getting lucky.  Do you know why that is?

    This is the way conspiracy freaks work.  They come up with their solution and then go back and try and make the information support it by leaving out certain facts or details.

    So the CT says:  See, he took out insurance prior to the attacks and got paid $4.55 million dollars from the insurance company.  

    But they fail to leave out the specific information which makes it all perfectly logical.  Because it doesn't support their conclusions.  


     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2012 - 7:08 PM ET #29

    Hutch, I'm not sure what sources you have that stated he ORIGINALLY had an insurance policy for under 4.55 million.

    I have sources that state he had originally over 7 billion in insurance.  https://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=larry_silverstein

    I didn't catch the error regarding the flights Hutch... but is that really all you have?  If I completely agreed with your argument there will still be dozens of holes in the official story.  Do you have any proof the official is correct aside from the media telling you it is?

     

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    Hutch, I'm not sure what sources you have that stated he ORIGINALLY had an insurance policy for under 4.55 million.

    I have sources that state he had originally over 7 billion in insurance.  https://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=larry_silverstein

    I didn't catch the error regarding the flights Hutch... but is that really all you have?  If I completely agreed with your argument there will still be dozens of holes in the official story.  Do you have any proof the official is correct aside from the media telling you it is?

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2012 - 7:16 PM ET #30

    Larry, what part of this don't you understand?  It's from the link you provided.   

    They were going to prove, Silverstein told one of the callers, that the way his insurance policies were written the two planes crashing into the two towers had been two different ‘occurrences,’ not part of the same event. That would give him more than $7 billion to rebuild, instead of the $3.55 billion that his insurance policy said was the maximum for one ‘occurrence.’ And rebuild was just what he was going to do, he vowed.” 


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    Larry, what part of this don't you understand?  It's from the link you provided.   

    They were going to prove, Silverstein told one of the callers, that the way his insurance policies were written the two planes crashing into the two towers had been two different ‘occurrences,’ not part of the same event. That would give him more than $7 billion to rebuild, instead of the $3.55 billion that his insurance policy said was the maximum for one ‘occurrence.’ And rebuild was just what he was going to do, he vowed.” 


     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2012 - 7:20 PM ET #31

    I have sources that state he had originally over 7 billion in insurance.
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    Get some new sources.   It was $3.55 million which is exactly what is sent in the link you sent me.  

    Or actually read the stuff before you post it.  That might help. 
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    I have sources that state he had originally over 7 billion in insurance.
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    Get some new sources.   It was $3.55 million which is exactly what is sent in the link you sent me.  

    Or actually read the stuff before you post it.  That might help. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2012 - 7:21 PM ET #32

    I'm following you.  You want to know why he got more than the 3.55 he should have gotten if it was considered one event.  Your guess is as good as mine... maybe he has a good lawyer.
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    I'm following you.  You want to know why he got more than the 3.55 he should have gotten if it was considered one event.  Your guess is as good as mine... maybe he has a good lawyer.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2012 - 7:23 PM ET #33

    He was operating under the idea it was 7 billion.  He thought he was getting 7 billion when he signed up for this policy.  You think he got lucky becuase they considered it one event, but I'm sure he feels screwed.

     

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    He was operating under the idea it was 7 billion.  He thought he was getting 7 billion when he signed up for this policy.  You think he got lucky becuase they considered it one event, but I'm sure he feels screwed.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2012 - 7:26 PM ET #34

    For someone who came on to this forum giving an incorrect amount of the actual pay-out, you are probably a little out of line. 

    I have come up with multiple sources to support my theory.  If you can back up your theory I would love to hear it.

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    For someone who came on to this forum giving an incorrect amount of the actual pay-out, you are probably a little out of line. 

    I have come up with multiple sources to support my theory.  If you can back up your theory I would love to hear it.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2012 - 7:29 PM ET #35

    interesting    
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    interesting    
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2012 - 10:18 AM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by Larry_Legend:

    He was operating under the idea it was 7 billion.  He thought he was getting 7 billion when he signed up for this policy.  You think he got lucky becuase they considered it one event, but I'm sure he feels screwed.

    How many times can you be wrong in one thread?  The policy was for $3.55 billion (not $7 billion).  He never thought it was for $7 billion.  It was recommended that he have a policy in the $5 billion range and decided against it.  Why would he think he had a policy for $7 billion?????????

    And it wasn't considered one event, it was considered TWO events. 

    Out of line?  Why?  Because you can't even wrap your mind around the facts re. this?  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry_Legend:

    He was operating under the idea it was 7 billion.  He thought he was getting 7 billion when he signed up for this policy.  You think he got lucky becuase they considered it one event, but I'm sure he feels screwed.

    How many times can you be wrong in one thread?  The policy was for $3.55 billion (not $7 billion).  He never thought it was for $7 billion.  It was recommended that he have a policy in the $5 billion range and decided against it.  Why would he think he had a policy for $7 billion?????????

    And it wasn't considered one event, it was considered TWO events. 

    Out of line?  Why?  Because you can't even wrap your mind around the facts re. this?  

     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2012 - 10:42 AM ET #37

    You are missing the point... still.  Okay... so the insurance policy was for 3.55... But he argued that it was two attacks... meaning when he signed that policy he wanted to get money for two separate attacks.  3.55 x 2 = 7.1 billion. 

    The Port Authority had carried only $1.5 billion in insurance coverage on all its buildings, including the WTC, but Silverstein’s lenders insist on more, eventually demanding $3.55 billion in cover. [American Lawyer, 9/3/2002] After 9/11, Larry Silverstein will claim the attacks on the World Trade Center constituted two separate events, thereby entitling him to a double payout totaling over $7 billion. [Daily Telegraph, 10/9/2001; Guardian, 8/18/2002] Eventually, after several years of legal wrangling, a total of $4.55 billion of insurance money will be paid out for the destruction of the WTC (see May 23, 2007). Most of this appears to go to Silverstein Properties. How much goes to Westfield America Inc. is unclear.

    WTC leaseholder Larry Silverstein is supposed to be working today in the temporary offices of his company, Silverstein Properties, on the 88th floor of the North Tower. However, at his Park Avenue apartment, Silverstein’s wife reportedly “laid down the law: The developer could not cancel an appointment with his dermatologist, even to meet with tenants at his most important property.” [New York Observer, 3/17/2003; New York Magazine, 4/18/2005] He is therefore not at the WTC when it is hit, and first hears of the attacks when an associate calls him from the lobby of one of the WTC buildings. [Real Deal, 1/2004] Two of Silverstein’s children—his son, Roger, and daughter, Lisa—work for his company and have been regularly attending meetings with WTC tenants at Windows on the World (the restaurant at the top of the North Tower). Yet this morning they are running late. According to the New York Observer, “If the attack had happened just a little later, Mr. Silverstein’s children would likely have been trapped at Windows.” [New York Observer, 3/17/2003] Fifty-four of Silverstein Properties’ 160 staff are in the North Tower when it is hit, and four of them die. [Globe and Mail, 9/7/2002] Silverstein signed the lease on the WTC less than two months previously, and later will attempt to get $7 billion in insurance for the destruction of the towers (see July 24, 2001).

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    You are missing the point... still.  Okay... so the insurance policy was for 3.55... But he argued that it was two attacks... meaning when he signed that policy he wanted to get money for two separate attacks.  3.55 x 2 = 7.1 billion. 

    The Port Authority had carried only $1.5 billion in insurance coverage on all its buildings, including the WTC, but Silverstein’s lenders insist on more, eventually demanding $3.55 billion in cover. [American Lawyer, 9/3/2002] After 9/11, Larry Silverstein will claim the attacks on the World Trade Center constituted two separate events, thereby entitling him to a double payout totaling over $7 billion. [Daily Telegraph, 10/9/2001; Guardian, 8/18/2002] Eventually, after several years of legal wrangling, a total of $4.55 billion of insurance money will be paid out for the destruction of the WTC (see May 23, 2007). Most of this appears to go to Silverstein Properties. How much goes to Westfield America Inc. is unclear.

    WTC leaseholder Larry Silverstein is supposed to be working today in the temporary offices of his company, Silverstein Properties, on the 88th floor of the North Tower. However, at his Park Avenue apartment, Silverstein’s wife reportedly “laid down the law: The developer could not cancel an appointment with his dermatologist, even to meet with tenants at his most important property.” [New York Observer, 3/17/2003; New York Magazine, 4/18/2005] He is therefore not at the WTC when it is hit, and first hears of the attacks when an associate calls him from the lobby of one of the WTC buildings. [Real Deal, 1/2004] Two of Silverstein’s children—his son, Roger, and daughter, Lisa—work for his company and have been regularly attending meetings with WTC tenants at Windows on the World (the restaurant at the top of the North Tower). Yet this morning they are running late. According to the New York Observer, “If the attack had happened just a little later, Mr. Silverstein’s children would likely have been trapped at Windows.” [New York Observer, 3/17/2003] Fifty-four of Silverstein Properties’ 160 staff are in the North Tower when it is hit, and four of them die. [Globe and Mail, 9/7/2002] Silverstein signed the lease on the WTC less than two months previously, and later will attempt to get $7 billion in insurance for the destruction of the towers (see July 24, 2001).

     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2012 - 10:45 AM ET #38

    Hutch, you are still stuck on the numbers.  Do you have anything else?  Kind of interesting how Silverstein wasn't in his office in the north tower on 9/11 huh?

    I've continued to back up my theory with sources..  You have nothing to support anything the media has claimed.

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    Hutch, you are still stuck on the numbers.  Do you have anything else?  Kind of interesting how Silverstein wasn't in his office in the north tower on 9/11 huh?

    I've continued to back up my theory with sources..  You have nothing to support anything the media has claimed.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2012 - 10:52 AM ET #39

    Whats really scary to me is how quickly people defend these peices of shit.  
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    Whats really scary to me is how quickly people defend these peices of shit.  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2012 - 11:00 AM ET #40

    meaning when he signed that policy he wanted to get money for two separate attacks. 
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    Do you know anything about insurance?  

    I have hundreds....probably thousands of posts re. 9/11.  This is just the same conspiracy theory crap.  

    Silverstein signed the lease on the WTC less than two months 

    Correct.  But do you know the details of how he came to sign the lease? What the time frame was?  The negotiations?

    It's another example of telling part of the story, but not all of it in....because you already have come to your conclusions.

    You know what, sometimes weird crap happens.  Luck.  Crazy decisions.....fate.  Who knows.  I've blazed through this territory 5 times on this forum.  I honestly don't think you've done any serious research on this at all.  

    https://www.mrtop10.com/10_famous_people_who_avoided_death_on_9_11-3706


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    meaning when he signed that policy he wanted to get money for two separate attacks. 
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    Do you know anything about insurance?  

    I have hundreds....probably thousands of posts re. 9/11.  This is just the same conspiracy theory crap.  

    Silverstein signed the lease on the WTC less than two months 

    Correct.  But do you know the details of how he came to sign the lease? What the time frame was?  The negotiations?

    It's another example of telling part of the story, but not all of it in....because you already have come to your conclusions.

    You know what, sometimes weird crap happens.  Luck.  Crazy decisions.....fate.  Who knows.  I've blazed through this territory 5 times on this forum.  I honestly don't think you've done any serious research on this at all.  

    https://www.mrtop10.com/10_famous_people_who_avoided_death_on_9_11-3706


     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2012 - 11:03 AM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by Larry_Legend:

    Whats really scary to me is how quickly people defend these peices of shit.  

    What's scary to me is how quick people are to ignore the evidence.  

    And the information I've presented wasn't from the media.  You'd know that if you were informed.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry_Legend:

    Whats really scary to me is how quickly people defend these peices of shit.  

    What's scary to me is how quick people are to ignore the evidence.  

    And the information I've presented wasn't from the media.  You'd know that if you were informed.  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2012 - 11:03 AM ET #42

    Like I said -- an insight into the mind of paranoid delusions.
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    Like I said -- an insight into the mind of paranoid delusions.
     
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    I don't think those people avoiding the attacks on 9/11 is a coincidence at all.  I've already related government, media, and entertainment industry in my first post.  The only source you have provided only argues my point further.

    So you just admitted he took out an insurance policy two months prior specifically for an event that actually happened... and he's not in his office the morning of 9/11? 

    Yes, random crazy shit does happen sometimes.  The problem with all of these "coincidences" is they actually make sense logically.  It's not easy waking up, the truth is a hard thing to deal with, and I sympathise with you.

    This isn't just about 9/11 anymore Hutch.  I've connect 9/11, Aurora, and unfortunately... what could be coming in the olympics.  You come on to this thread and still have nothing to counter what my theory has shown.

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    I don't think those people avoiding the attacks on 9/11 is a coincidence at all.  I've already related government, media, and entertainment industry in my first post.  The only source you have provided only argues my point further.

    So you just admitted he took out an insurance policy two months prior specifically for an event that actually happened... and he's not in his office the morning of 9/11? 

    Yes, random crazy shit does happen sometimes.  The problem with all of these "coincidences" is they actually make sense logically.  It's not easy waking up, the truth is a hard thing to deal with, and I sympathise with you.

    This isn't just about 9/11 anymore Hutch.  I've connect 9/11, Aurora, and unfortunately... what could be coming in the olympics.  You come on to this thread and still have nothing to counter what my theory has shown.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2012 - 1:13 PM ET #44

    You're right, Larry.  You win.  Uncle. 
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2012 - 1:31 PM ET #45

    I bet the wackos will come up with an explanation if nothing happens in London.
    These morons never prevent any bad things from happening - they can only link the stuff after it has happened.

    Until now... London 2012...uh uh...
    Something could happen as there's always a risk at such big events. I'd say I am 99.99999999999999999999999999% sure nothing bad will happen.

    So if you're planning to go to London - have a nice trip.
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    I bet the wackos will come up with an explanation if nothing happens in London.
    These morons never prevent any bad things from happening - they can only link the stuff after it has happened.

    Until now... London 2012...uh uh...
    Something could happen as there's always a risk at such big events. I'd say I am 99.99999999999999999999999999% sure nothing bad will happen.

    So if you're planning to go to London - have a nice trip.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2012 - 1:36 PM ET #46

    Guess they're the Jehovas Witnesses of the internet.
    They have predicted the end of the world through the years - guess they stopped as it didn't happen.
    Now these morons have taken over their role.
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    Guess they're the Jehovas Witnesses of the internet.
    They have predicted the end of the world through the years - guess they stopped as it didn't happen.
    Now these morons have taken over their role.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2012 - 1:45 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    This is like peering inside the mind of someone with mental illness. Fascinating.

    What mental illness? How did you come to this conclusions? He connected the dots different to you.. aka "Mental Illness"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    This is like peering inside the mind of someone with mental illness. Fascinating.

    What mental illness? How did you come to this conclusions? He connected the dots different to you.. aka "Mental Illness"?
     
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    What no one has done is make the connection on WHEN exactly it will happen.   The "Dark Knight Rises" movie is significant because they planned an attack around it.  During a scene in that movie, the questions is asked... "How long do we have until the nuke B goes off?"  The response is "23 days".   The movie opened on 7/20 (day of that aurora bs).  23 days from 7/20 is August 12, 2012... which happens to be the same day as the olympic closing ceremonies.

    What no one has done is make the connection on WHEN exactly it will happen.   The "Dark Knight Rises" movie is significant because they planned an attack around it.  During a scene in that movie, the questions is asked... "How long do we have until the nuke B goes off?"  The response is "23 days".   The movie opened on 7/20 (day of that aurora bs).  23 days from 7/20 is August 12, 2012... which happens to be the same day as the olympic closing ceremonies.

     

     so was christopher nolan in on it?  or did these illuminati guys get a super advanced screening and said, "oh shit, it says 23 days, we have to make them release it exactly on this day so it lines up with the closing ceremonies and for good measure we will throw in some mass shooting so it symbolizes the start of the 23 days".

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    What no one has done is make the connection on WHEN exactly it will happen.   The "Dark Knight Rises" movie is significant because they planned an attack around it.  During a scene in that movie, the questions is asked... "How long do we have until the nuke B goes off?"  The response is "23 days".   The movie opened on 7/20 (day of that aurora bs).  23 days from 7/20 is August 12, 2012... which happens to be the same day as the olympic closing ceremonies.

    What no one has done is make the connection on WHEN exactly it will happen.   The "Dark Knight Rises" movie is significant because they planned an attack around it.  During a scene in that movie, the questions is asked... "How long do we have until the nuke B goes off?"  The response is "23 days".   The movie opened on 7/20 (day of that aurora bs).  23 days from 7/20 is August 12, 2012... which happens to be the same day as the olympic closing ceremonies.

     

     so was christopher nolan in on it?  or did these illuminati guys get a super advanced screening and said, "oh shit, it says 23 days, we have to make them release it exactly on this day so it lines up with the closing ceremonies and for good measure we will throw in some mass shooting so it symbolizes the start of the 23 days".

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by GSP10:


    What mental illness? How did you come to this conclusions? He connected the dots different to you.. aka "Mental Illness"?


    On my way to work I meet this homeless woman who says the secret police have implanted chips into our brains.
    Guess she's just connected the dots differently... She could be right, you know.
    Oh and why not say that the mentally ill are the ones who have the truth about everything?
    Don't use your common sense, logic or anything. They COULD be right!!!
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    What mental illness? How did you come to this conclusions? He connected the dots different to you.. aka "Mental Illness"?


    On my way to work I meet this homeless woman who says the secret police have implanted chips into our brains.
    Guess she's just connected the dots differently... She could be right, you know.
    Oh and why not say that the mentally ill are the ones who have the truth about everything?
    Don't use your common sense, logic or anything. They COULD be right!!!
     
     
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    Movies are produced at least 6 months prior to screening. I have a friend that is a manager at Village Roadshow and he gets movies 6 months before they show on the big screens.

    Btw I'm not sure that it is or isn't linked to the shooting,as I don't have any information  about this topic to make this connection.
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    Movies are produced at least 6 months prior to screening. I have a friend that is a manager at Village Roadshow and he gets movies 6 months before they show on the big screens.

    Btw I'm not sure that it is or isn't linked to the shooting,as I don't have any information  about this topic to make this connection.
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