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    Chicago's murder rate soars 72% in 2016; shootings up more than 88%

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    GimmeMoneyNow
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2016 - 10:38 AM ET #1

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/04/01/murders-shootings-soar-chicago-through-first-three-months-2016/82507210/


    {The rise in violence comes as the police department reported a decrease in investigative stops by cops on the streets during the first two months of the year. The police department entered an agreement with the American Civil Liberties Union, which went into effect Jan. 1, to record contact cards for all street stops after the organization criticized the  city's police for disproportionately targeting minorities for questioning and searches.}

    Wow..... Who couldn't of predicted this outcome? It's starting to look like the opening scene of Robocop out there - except that was Detroit, not Chicago. #You'reOnYourOwn
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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/04/01/murders-shootings-soar-chicago-through-first-three-months-2016/82507210/


    {The rise in violence comes as the police department reported a decrease in investigative stops by cops on the streets during the first two months of the year. The police department entered an agreement with the American Civil Liberties Union, which went into effect Jan. 1, to record contact cards for all street stops after the organization criticized the  city's police for disproportionately targeting minorities for questioning and searches.}

    Wow..... Who couldn't of predicted this outcome? It's starting to look like the opening scene of Robocop out there - except that was Detroit, not Chicago. #You'reOnYourOwn
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2016 - 11:16 AM ET #2

    Black Lies Matter...

    Thank the ACLU for their hand in allowing the savages to knock each other off at a record pace. Afghanistan & Iraq are safer than some parts of Chicago based on simple math... 

    Dear America, this is what you ghet when liberals run your city and certain people have high numbers of population. If you need more evidence, see Baltimore...


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    Black Lies Matter...

    Thank the ACLU for their hand in allowing the savages to knock each other off at a record pace. Afghanistan & Iraq are safer than some parts of Chicago based on simple math... 

    Dear America, this is what you ghet when liberals run your city and certain people have high numbers of population. If you need more evidence, see Baltimore...


     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2016 - 1:09 PM ET #3

    Waiting for the Liberal point-of-view to rebut this claim.  

    Indeed, who would have thought this was coming?   
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    Waiting for the Liberal point-of-view to rebut this claim.  

    Indeed, who would have thought this was coming?   
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2016 - 5:59 PM ET #4

    Let's see what happens the rest of the year.  The weather was miserable the first three months of 2015 compared to 2016.  No one is out murdering people when it is a blizzard or 0 degrees.
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    Let's see what happens the rest of the year.  The weather was miserable the first three months of 2015 compared to 2016.  No one is out murdering people when it is a blizzard or 0 degrees.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2016 - 7:59 PM ET #5

     https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/chicago-man-facebook-video-captures-moment-shot-article-1.2584765


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     https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/chicago-man-facebook-video-captures-moment-shot-article-1.2584765


     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2016 - 8:06 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    Let's see what happens the rest of the year.  The weather was miserable the first three months of 2015 compared to 2016.  No one is out murdering people when it is a blizzard or 0 degrees.

    Yeah, nothing ruins a good murder plan faster than bad weather. Seems like everytime I have an itch to commit a random murder, we have a hurricane or something. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    Let's see what happens the rest of the year.  The weather was miserable the first three months of 2015 compared to 2016.  No one is out murdering people when it is a blizzard or 0 degrees.

    Yeah, nothing ruins a good murder plan faster than bad weather. Seems like everytime I have an itch to commit a random murder, we have a hurricane or something. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2016 - 8:54 AM ET #7

    My kind of town, Chicago is, my kind of town 
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    My kind of town, Chicago is, my kind of town 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2016 - 1:02 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:



    Clearly the cops are the problem in the black community.

    No doubt about it!  They try to prevent crime by doing their jobs.  Trying to make communities civilized and safe.  Damn the POLICE! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:



    Clearly the cops are the problem in the black community.

    No doubt about it!  They try to prevent crime by doing their jobs.  Trying to make communities civilized and safe.  Damn the POLICE! 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2016 - 2:54 PM ET #9

    Somewhere Al Capone is blushing....
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    Somewhere Al Capone is blushing....
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2016 - 10:35 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by vetdrm:

     https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/chicago-man-facebook-video-captures-moment-shot-article-1.2584765



    Did the tax payers a favor on that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetdrm:

     https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/chicago-man-facebook-video-captures-moment-shot-article-1.2584765



    Did the tax payers a favor on that one.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2016 - 2:18 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:



    The cops are the only ones doing anything in the black communities. Yet the blacks hate them.

    I know this is probably viewed as pandering but is there a high number of Black police men and women in Chicago or is it majority White/Hispanic? and would the Black people in that area respond differently to Black cops as opposed to non? I'm just playing devils advocate to see if we could end this culture of Blacks hating the police somehow,some way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:



    The cops are the only ones doing anything in the black communities. Yet the blacks hate them.

    I know this is probably viewed as pandering but is there a high number of Black police men and women in Chicago or is it majority White/Hispanic? and would the Black people in that area respond differently to Black cops as opposed to non? I'm just playing devils advocate to see if we could end this culture of Blacks hating the police somehow,some way.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2016 - 2:27 PM ET #12

    Too much history and personal experiences of cops being predjudice.

    Problem is that not all cops are that way.  The other problem is that some are. Just like some are great at their job and some aren't. 

    The reality is there is s human element that dominates perception.  My thinking is that I am not a cop there or a person that lives there so to make black and white statements (easy there race obsessed posters, it's just s metaphor) is a reductionist view that only further entrenches both sides.

    I appreciate your Devils advocate idea because it could bring change and growth. .  But it's easier for African Americans to blame the police and it's easier for outsiderswho don't love it  to comment on either as the problem than it would be to focus on improving and growing personally.  It's just he times we live in.  So much news, fake news, talking heads. Social media, we are bombarded by information and distractions away from taking responsibility for one's self and less absorbed in scapegoating and making excuses that cops or African Americans are the real problem in the lives of people today 
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    Too much history and personal experiences of cops being predjudice.

    Problem is that not all cops are that way.  The other problem is that some are. Just like some are great at their job and some aren't. 

    The reality is there is s human element that dominates perception.  My thinking is that I am not a cop there or a person that lives there so to make black and white statements (easy there race obsessed posters, it's just s metaphor) is a reductionist view that only further entrenches both sides.

    I appreciate your Devils advocate idea because it could bring change and growth. .  But it's easier for African Americans to blame the police and it's easier for outsiderswho don't love it  to comment on either as the problem than it would be to focus on improving and growing personally.  It's just he times we live in.  So much news, fake news, talking heads. Social media, we are bombarded by information and distractions away from taking responsibility for one's self and less absorbed in scapegoating and making excuses that cops or African Americans are the real problem in the lives of people today 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2016 - 2:50 PM ET #13

    Your such a riot DL.

    How about statistics? Do they no portray where the problem lies?
    Is the shooting gallery in the affluent white neighborhoods or in the ghettos? Fake news & talking heads? wtf is that supposed to mean?

    What's fake about the 762 shootings this year?



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    Your such a riot DL.

    How about statistics? Do they no portray where the problem lies?
    Is the shooting gallery in the affluent white neighborhoods or in the ghettos? Fake news & talking heads? wtf is that supposed to mean?

    What's fake about the 762 shootings this year?



     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2016 - 3:38 PM ET #14

    Way to prove my point.

    You are a walking example of the problem 

    Keep it up, I can't do with out your efforts 
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    Way to prove my point.

    You are a walking example of the problem 

    Keep it up, I can't do with out your efforts 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Too much history and personal experiences of cops being predjudice.

    Problem is that not all cops are that way.  The other problem is that some are. Just like some are great at their job and some aren't. 

    The reality is there is s human element that dominates perception.  My thinking is that I am not a cop there or a person that lives there so to make black and white statements (easy there race obsessed posters, it's just s metaphor) is a reductionist view that only further entrenches both sides.

    I appreciate your Devils advocate idea because it could bring change and growth. .  But it's easier for African Americans to blame the police and it's easier for outsiderswho don't love it  to comment on either as the problem than it would be to focus on improving and growing personally.  It's just he times we live in.  So much news, fake news, talking heads. Social media, we are bombarded by information and distractions away from taking responsibility for one's self and less absorbed in scapegoating and making excuses that cops or African Americans are the real problem in the lives of people today 

    Splendid!  In today's world every action is met with an over reaction and that snowball rolls into those who don't have the sense to stand aside and learn and think about it. Where did it come from? Why is it here? Is it really the snowballs fault? Or are we so self inflicted with selfishness that we only worry how it benefits me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Too much history and personal experiences of cops being predjudice.

    Problem is that not all cops are that way.  The other problem is that some are. Just like some are great at their job and some aren't. 

    The reality is there is s human element that dominates perception.  My thinking is that I am not a cop there or a person that lives there so to make black and white statements (easy there race obsessed posters, it's just s metaphor) is a reductionist view that only further entrenches both sides.

    I appreciate your Devils advocate idea because it could bring change and growth. .  But it's easier for African Americans to blame the police and it's easier for outsiderswho don't love it  to comment on either as the problem than it would be to focus on improving and growing personally.  It's just he times we live in.  So much news, fake news, talking heads. Social media, we are bombarded by information and distractions away from taking responsibility for one's self and less absorbed in scapegoating and making excuses that cops or African Americans are the real problem in the lives of people today 

    Splendid!  In today's world every action is met with an over reaction and that snowball rolls into those who don't have the sense to stand aside and learn and think about it. Where did it come from? Why is it here? Is it really the snowballs fault? Or are we so self inflicted with selfishness that we only worry how it benefits me?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2016 - 11:13 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:


    Yeah, nothing ruins a good murder plan faster than bad weather. Seems like everytime I have an itch to commit a random murder, we have a hurricane or something. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:


    Yeah, nothing ruins a good murder plan faster than bad weather. Seems like everytime I have an itch to commit a random murder, we have a hurricane or something. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2016 - 11:29 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Way to prove my point.

    You are a walking example of the problem 

    Keep it up, I can't do with out your efforts 

    Sure Debbie, I only shot 600 of those people.

    Since it's early in the month shouldn't you be out spending your government checks or are you tapped out already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Way to prove my point.

    You are a walking example of the problem 

    Keep it up, I can't do with out your efforts 

    Sure Debbie, I only shot 600 of those people.

    Since it's early in the month shouldn't you be out spending your government checks or are you tapped out already?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2016 - 1:15 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:



    I expect records to be broken 4th of July weekend.

    I just thought of something. Can you imagine if the Cubs win the World Series this year?!?!


    The Horror.....
    The Horror.....
    The Horror.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:



    I expect records to be broken 4th of July weekend.

    I just thought of something. Can you imagine if the Cubs win the World Series this year?!?!


    The Horror.....
    The Horror.....
    The Horror.....
     
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    Lolol looting with AK outside stadium. Damn it it was a windy city dream white Sox vs. Cubs.....
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    Lolol looting with AK outside stadium. Damn it it was a windy city dream white Sox vs. Cubs.....
     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2016 - 3:56 AM ET #20

    Seriously, if the black lives matter organization could focus for just a minute the number of PD shooting blacks vs the number of black gangs shooting other rival black gang members in our largest cities is comparing a bushwel of apples to an orchard.   Maybe some spin here with reality but young black people shooting other black people is a supremacist wet dream the deed is done and they never even had to buy a round.


    For what bigger area to destroy more souls with the poison they are peddling and making another whhite man rich.
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    Seriously, if the black lives matter organization could focus for just a minute the number of PD shooting blacks vs the number of black gangs shooting other rival black gang members in our largest cities is comparing a bushwel of apples to an orchard.   Maybe some spin here with reality but young black people shooting other black people is a supremacist wet dream the deed is done and they never even had to buy a round.


    For what bigger area to destroy more souls with the poison they are peddling and making another whhite man rich.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2016 - 2:34 PM ET #21

    With the 700+ murders last year in Chicago despite restrictive gun laws and despite the majority of these crimes are black on black in a city run by a progressive Dem strawman (Ron Emanual) straight from the Obama inner circle,it can be concluded that this is Poor on Poor crime-Poorly Educated on PoorlyEducated crime-Felon on Felon crime(78% of black males pass through the criminal justice system) and Democrat on Democrat crime(95% of blacks voted Obama).
    Conclusion: When guns are Outlawed ,Democrats will have guns.
    Guns don't kill people,Democrats kill people.
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    With the 700+ murders last year in Chicago despite restrictive gun laws and despite the majority of these crimes are black on black in a city run by a progressive Dem strawman (Ron Emanual) straight from the Obama inner circle,it can be concluded that this is Poor on Poor crime-Poorly Educated on PoorlyEducated crime-Felon on Felon crime(78% of black males pass through the criminal justice system) and Democrat on Democrat crime(95% of blacks voted Obama).
    Conclusion: When guns are Outlawed ,Democrats will have guns.
    Guns don't kill people,Democrats kill people.
     
    Dutch1976
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2016 - 3:07 PM ET #22

    Ghetto killing ghetto, and white trash killing white trash... Yawn.  


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    Ghetto killing ghetto, and white trash killing white trash... Yawn.  


     
    Slobbasaurus
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2016 - 3:13 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    With the 700+ murders last year in Chicago despite restrictive gun laws and despite the majority of these crimes are black on black in a city run by a progressive Dem strawman (Ron Emanual) straight from the Obama inner circle,it can be concluded that this is Poor on Poor crime-Poorly Educated on PoorlyEducated crime-Felon on Felon crime(78% of black males pass through the criminal justice system) and Democrat on Democrat crime(95% of blacks voted Obama).
    Conclusion: When guns are Outlawed ,Democrats will have guns.
    Guns don't kill people,Democrats kill people.

    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    With the 700+ murders last year in Chicago despite restrictive gun laws and despite the majority of these crimes are black on black in a city run by a progressive Dem strawman (Ron Emanual) straight from the Obama inner circle,it can be concluded that this is Poor on Poor crime-Poorly Educated on PoorlyEducated crime-Felon on Felon crime(78% of black males pass through the criminal justice system) and Democrat on Democrat crime(95% of blacks voted Obama).
    Conclusion: When guns are Outlawed ,Democrats will have guns.
    Guns don't kill people,Democrats kill people.

     
    thorpe
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2016 - 3:53 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    With the 700+ murders last year in Chicago despite restrictive gun laws and despite the majority of these crimes are black on black in a city run by a progressive Dem strawman (Ron Emanual) straight from the Obama inner circle,it can be concluded that this is Poor on Poor crime-Poorly Educated on PoorlyEducated crime-Felon on Felon crime(78% of black males pass through the criminal justice system) and Democrat on Democrat crime(95% of blacks voted Obama).
    Conclusion: When guns are Outlawed ,Democrats will have guns.
    Guns don't kill people,Democrats kill people.

    Felons can't vote.  
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    With the 700+ murders last year in Chicago despite restrictive gun laws and despite the majority of these crimes are black on black in a city run by a progressive Dem strawman (Ron Emanual) straight from the Obama inner circle,it can be concluded that this is Poor on Poor crime-Poorly Educated on PoorlyEducated crime-Felon on Felon crime(78% of black males pass through the criminal justice system) and Democrat on Democrat crime(95% of blacks voted Obama).
    Conclusion: When guns are Outlawed ,Democrats will have guns.
    Guns don't kill people,Democrats kill people.

    Felons can't vote.  
     
     
    SteelCash
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2016 - 5:44 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:


    Yeah, nothing ruins a good murder plan faster than bad weather. Seems like everytime I have an itch to commit a random murder, we have a hurricane or something. 

    Homicide rates increase in the summer.  Statistics prove this to be fact.  

    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:


    Yeah, nothing ruins a good murder plan faster than bad weather. Seems like everytime I have an itch to commit a random murder, we have a hurricane or something. 

    Homicide rates increase in the summer.  Statistics prove this to be fact.  

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