Bought a car this weekend and dealer wants it back.

I spent several hours this weekend at a Nissan car dealership buying a used 2012 Toyota Camry with less than 5,000 miles on it.

Saturday I saw the car and they said they could not release it till Sunday after the person turning it in finished his transaction to upgrade to a new Nissan 370z. The car also needed to go through inspection. I went back Sunday and made a deal, signed the papers and gave half my down payment. I wanted to do a debit for rest of the down payment however, I had a $300.00 limit. They said no problem come back tomorrow with a check. The deal got done signed the contract and I drove off in my new car.

Today I went to get an oil change done and pay the balance of the  down payment. The salesman and finance guys I delt with were not in the office. I gave the balance of down payment on a credit card to another finance guy and asked him to get the oil change done. He came back and said the car still needed to go through a full inspection and he would call me back to make an appointment.

10 minutes after I left today the finance called me and said I need to bring the car back the deal with the other guy fell through. I said I already bought it and had it insured. I willl need to call you back.

What should I do? I want to keep the car. By law is the car mine?

If you signed the contract I think you're solid.

BOL

Same thing happened to my brother  a few years back.....he bought a truck, paid the down payment and went home.

Next day the dealership called him and  told him to bring the truck back; they said his sale price was not approved by the boss.  He told them to get fucked....the papers were signed and he had held up his end of the bargain.

Turned out the dealer was trying to sell the truck to a few different people and were playing the offers against each other.  Unbelieveable shit.

In any case, you have a signed contract and the got the title in your name.  Fuck em, you win.

Did you sign the PNS? Is the Camry registered in your name? 

Thanks for the replies guys.

Detox, what is a PNS? I did pay DMV fees in the contract.

Dealers are low-ballers and submit to the best offers at anytime they can.  Screw them, keep the car.

Why is it that you can't get a refund on the car after you signed the contract & goes off their lot?  Yet, they can call you to bring the car back at their leisure?

unless in your contract there is some fine print stating that the dealership has the right to be complete dumbf*cks and you are at it's mercy no matter what, then u all good homey.

dealer is in f*cked scenario here.

i somehow see this guy suddenly approved of his new car...

unreal.

This sounds like a story of selling a car that they may not have had the title in their possession. Still not sure what I am going to do and will need time to think about this.

If there are any car salesmen or someone who works for a car dealership that has an opinion I would love to hear it.

they are playing you for a dumbass.     tell them to eat shit

Did you get paperwork for DMV or just a buyers order?

Haha this is funny(well I'm sure not you as it's probably aggravating as shit), but I had a similiar problem back in the day.

So I ended up buying my first car when I was 19 and just got horribly screwed over. My negotiating skills were completely lacking and I ended up signing for a used 01 Altima at a rediculous interest rate of 14 percent and $2500 down. My parents gave me a beat up thunderbird to trade in so the dealership said they would give me $1500 for it and only needed to come up with $1000 cash. So I signed papers on Friday, gave them $500 and said I would be in Monday with the other $500 no big deal. Well, the call me Saturday afternoon telling me they couldn't give me the full $1500 for the trade-in and would only give me $500 for it so I would have to come in to sign new papers saying I was only receiving $500 for the trade in and the bank was raising the interest rate to 17 percent or come up with the difference in cash. I told them whatever I will be down there later.

So I was telling my buddy this story and he had me go talk to his friend at another dealership. He told me to go down there originally, but I kind of wanted to do the shit on my own and not get anyones help. So I'm talking to this guy and he's laughing the whole time saying it happens alot and they couldn't do that because the papers are signed and it's a done deal. So we continue talking and he asks me what they sold it to me and interest rate and all that which once again he starts laughing at me saying he could get me such a better deal. So I'm like great if they let me out of this contract I will come back down and we could get something done. Well the guy takes it one step further and drives the Altima I just bought down there with me following him in a new Tiburon. So we go talk to the salesman I bought it from and he's telling me I'm forced to sign the new contract. The other guy that went with me was telling him it's complete bullshit and that I don't have to sign anything. So he pulls out the shit telling me to be a man and honor my commitment blah blah blah. So I finally said what the fuck I'm not signing any new papers get it through your fucking head. He has the manager come over to try and "explain" to me that there's no way in hell they are eating the $1000 from the trade in so I told him great give me the keys and here are your keys. He ended up giving me my keys for the trade in, but refused to take the keys to the Altima. So I just set them down on the desk told them to go fuck themselves and went on my way. It was fantastic so the other guy drove my parents beat up thunderbird back to the lot with him and I ended up buying a new 2004 Tiburon for about $3500 cheaper and an interest rate of 8 percent. The down payment consisted of the rebates I got on it so no cash out of pocket it was great.

Sorry about the lengthy write-up, but the moral of the story is I could have kept the Altima and they would have had to eat the $1000 difference for my trade-in, but it worked out better for me to walk away from it. The car is yours in theory, but I'm not sure of the laws from state to state. So worse case scenario go get a consultation at a lawyers office and go from there. If it was me now I would just go in give them the money you owe them and be done with it if you love the car. Or you can use it as leverage and get a better deal on a better car.

I believe Apache owns a dealership.  He might be able to give some help.

Call up your local newspapers and tell them your story . 

Call the dealers back and ask them "do you like apples ?".

Fucking car dealers.

I just went through this shit when buying an Infiniti SUV for Wifey.  Signed all the papers and less than a week later was told I had to bring the car back because "the financing did not go through."  These guys wanted to rewrite the deal though a different bank for a higher interest rate.

I told them returning the vehicle was not an option.  Called my bank and set up up the deal for a better rate than I originally had made with the dealer.

Us  Them

Most people talk about contracts...but they are most often overrated things. Contracts are broken all of the time in a wide variety of ways.

This might be an instance where the dealership didn't own the vehicle yet and the original owner changed their mind. If this is the case they cannot sell to you and the vehicle will have to be returned. The only way the deal can honor the sale is if he owns the vehicle...you cannot just sell other peoples things without permission.

You will be able to contact the state and turn them in for fraud. But honestly I would use that as a bargaining chip in getting an amazing deal on another car.

Wait to see if you get the title though.... if the title comes in your name or you can prove the dealership owns the car you can legally keep the car. If not I suspect you will get contacted by the original owner and told to return the car.

Thanks for the info everyone big help when I am not sure what to do.

I will most likely go in tomorrow and try to bargain a deal to just walk away from this or get a large discount on something else.It's my turn to

Look at your paperwork and see if you signed a Spot Delivery Agreement?

You can find a sample form online and it will probably say you have to return the car within 24 hours once verbal notice is given that the deal cannot be completed.Different for different states though I feel sure.

Mention the word "Lawyer" they'll hang up!!

Also many Lawyers do free consultation over the phone call one for shits and giggles.......

yeah , i would get a local lawyer friend for some advice. Best bet for the money really. This bullshit prob happens all the time. I would pressure them with a lawyer if they try to rip you off.

They're a business with an obligation and expectations of due diligence to help the customer regardless so with a contract and a lawyer , i'd check out what happened  in similar circumstances to other people. Might even be able to get more than you thought. 

There is obviously a title problem and you can rest assured the dealership is covered by the fine print in the contract. If they don't have or can't get the title you're S.O.L. The dealership wants to sell vehicles and should make you a similar or better deal.

. GL Kemosabe

I only know the business in Ontario Canada.

Why did this guy drop off his 'trade' and not have a new car?   What was he doing, driving a rental?  A friend's car?

You can trade in your car but you still drive it until you pick up the new car. 

Sometimes you sign the ownership over right then and there and still drive it.  Not sure how title works, although it is different.

Sounds fishy.  They didn't get more money for it that's for sure, it just sounds like they sold a car that wasn't theirs yet . . . which is amateur.

If it's in your name, it's their loss. Especially on a cash deal.

If you want to give it back, get them to make you an offer on another vehicle.  And make sure they sweeten before you drop off the Camry.

Tell them to go buy a 2013 Accord for you and get that.  Killer mid-size these days.

Contract = win

I cannot get in contact with anyone I made the original transaction with. I will be going in tomrrow to see the general manager.  

Tell them you know Tony Soprano and he will bust out that dealership anytime.