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    anyone made the move from usa to europe?

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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 9:44 PM ET #1

    been always thinking about it. im only 23.. just wanted to see if its possible. heard it can be very hard to gain residency. and how the experience?
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    been always thinking about it. im only 23.. just wanted to see if its possible. heard it can be very hard to gain residency. and how the experience?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2015 - 12:39 AM ET #2

    Join the French Foreign Legion ...after 5 years service you can be a french citizen or dual ...Up to you...After 15 years of service gets you a pension.You get awesome military training  and get to kill all over the world..
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    Join the French Foreign Legion ...after 5 years service you can be a french citizen or dual ...Up to you...After 15 years of service gets you a pension.You get awesome military training  and get to kill all over the world..
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2015 - 12:00 AM ET #3

    always like these posts.

    ask yourself some questions

    1) why do u want to move

    2) where are u going and will u be there in 5 years

    3) the biggest thing for americans not going to england or ireland, how quickly can you learn a foreign language, you won't get by in continental europe speaking english 

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    always like these posts.

    ask yourself some questions

    1) why do u want to move

    2) where are u going and will u be there in 5 years

    3) the biggest thing for americans not going to england or ireland, how quickly can you learn a foreign language, you won't get by in continental europe speaking english 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2015 - 7:30 AM ET #4

    Europe is a cesspool based on socialism concept, with the highest tax structures on the planet, opportunities for Americans are limited, and non-existent in some countries, If you are not fluent in the country of choice, forget about it; I think you should do a little research other than asking information on a gambling site, if your whim turns into a reality, you'll regret the day you got on a plane, and landed in what many Americans now consider a 'hostile environment' you see, it's the Europeans that come to the USA to virtually 'escape' what you intend on walking into..
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    Europe is a cesspool based on socialism concept, with the highest tax structures on the planet, opportunities for Americans are limited, and non-existent in some countries, If you are not fluent in the country of choice, forget about it; I think you should do a little research other than asking information on a gambling site, if your whim turns into a reality, you'll regret the day you got on a plane, and landed in what many Americans now consider a 'hostile environment' you see, it's the Europeans that come to the USA to virtually 'escape' what you intend on walking into..
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2015 - 7:41 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by mr_bollox:

    always like these posts.

    ask yourself some questions

    1) why do u want to move

    2) where are u going and will u be there in 5 years

    3) the biggest thing for americans not going to england or ireland, how quickly can you learn a foreign language, "you won't get by in continental europe speaking english" 

    England takes 38% out of your paycheck in taxation, 40% in Ireland, un-employement is double that in comparison to the U.S. there are more doctors in America from Europe, than their are doctors in europe, if that makes any sense to you
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_bollox:

    always like these posts.

    ask yourself some questions

    1) why do u want to move

    2) where are u going and will u be there in 5 years

    3) the biggest thing for americans not going to england or ireland, how quickly can you learn a foreign language, "you won't get by in continental europe speaking english" 

    England takes 38% out of your paycheck in taxation, 40% in Ireland, un-employement is double that in comparison to the U.S. there are more doctors in America from Europe, than their are doctors in europe, if that makes any sense to you
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2015 - 7:58 AM ET #6

    It's the best country in the world and everyone wants to move here for a reason. BECAUSE IT'S THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!

    Whatever you decide to do, best of luck.  
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    It's the best country in the world and everyone wants to move here for a reason. BECAUSE IT'S THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!

    Whatever you decide to do, best of luck.  
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2015 - 10:43 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    England takes 38% out of your paycheck in taxation, 40% in Ireland, un-employement is double that in comparison to the U.S. there are more doctors in America from Europe, than their are doctors in europe, if that makes any sense to you

    those figures are incorrect and why are u mentioning doctors?


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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    England takes 38% out of your paycheck in taxation, 40% in Ireland, un-employement is double that in comparison to the U.S. there are more doctors in America from Europe, than their are doctors in europe, if that makes any sense to you

    those figures are incorrect and why are u mentioning doctors?


     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2015 - 4:57 AM ET #8

    as an insight to documented migration of the European medical profession's flight to the usa on behalf of financial opportunity, that is not possible under their current countries taxation standards. my figures are correct, and updated, as is my commentary, I suggest before you simply refer to a statement as 'incorrect' you get off your lazy azz, and do some research to prove them to be not accurate..or if this is too complex for you, simply google taxation in Ireland, taxation in England, 2014 AMA report on medical migration from europe to america, get it? that's what I did, so now consider yourself educate, and your curiosity supplemented.......
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    as an insight to documented migration of the European medical profession's flight to the usa on behalf of financial opportunity, that is not possible under their current countries taxation standards. my figures are correct, and updated, as is my commentary, I suggest before you simply refer to a statement as 'incorrect' you get off your lazy azz, and do some research to prove them to be not accurate..or if this is too complex for you, simply google taxation in Ireland, taxation in England, 2014 AMA report on medical migration from europe to america, get it? that's what I did, so now consider yourself educate, and your curiosity supplemented.......
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2015 - 6:03 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    as an insight to documented migration of the European medical profession's flight to the usa on behalf of financial opportunity, that is not possible under their current countries taxation standards. my figures are correct, and updated, as is my commentary, I suggest before you simply refer to a statement as 'incorrect' you get off your lazy azz, and do some research to prove them to be not accurate..or if this is too complex for you, simply google taxation in Ireland, taxation in England, 2014 AMA report on medical migration from europe to america, get it? that's what I did, so now consider yourself educate, and your curiosity supplemented.......

    Great point Network.  Well put.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    as an insight to documented migration of the European medical profession's flight to the usa on behalf of financial opportunity, that is not possible under their current countries taxation standards. my figures are correct, and updated, as is my commentary, I suggest before you simply refer to a statement as 'incorrect' you get off your lazy azz, and do some research to prove them to be not accurate..or if this is too complex for you, simply google taxation in Ireland, taxation in England, 2014 AMA report on medical migration from europe to america, get it? that's what I did, so now consider yourself educate, and your curiosity supplemented.......

    Great point Network.  Well put.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2015 - 6:51 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    as an insight to documented migration of the European medical profession's flight to the usa on behalf of financial opportunity, that is not possible under their current countries taxation standards. my figures are correct, and updated, as is my commentary, I suggest before you simply refer to a statement as 'incorrect' you get off your lazy azz, and do some research to prove them to be not accurate..or if this is too complex for you, simply google taxation in Ireland, taxation in England, 2014 AMA report on medical migration from europe to america, get it? that's what I did, so now consider yourself educate, and your curiosity supplemented.......

    well, when I lived there, I was in well paid employment and never paid that rate of tax.

    you're clearly one of those clowns who mention terms like socialism without knowing what it really means and beat your chest saying this is the greatest country in the world but have never stepped foot on foreign soil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    as an insight to documented migration of the European medical profession's flight to the usa on behalf of financial opportunity, that is not possible under their current countries taxation standards. my figures are correct, and updated, as is my commentary, I suggest before you simply refer to a statement as 'incorrect' you get off your lazy azz, and do some research to prove them to be not accurate..or if this is too complex for you, simply google taxation in Ireland, taxation in England, 2014 AMA report on medical migration from europe to america, get it? that's what I did, so now consider yourself educate, and your curiosity supplemented.......

    well, when I lived there, I was in well paid employment and never paid that rate of tax.

    you're clearly one of those clowns who mention terms like socialism without knowing what it really means and beat your chest saying this is the greatest country in the world but have never stepped foot on foreign soil.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_bollox:


    well, when I lived there, I was in well paid employment and never paid that rate of tax.

    you're clearly one of those clowns who mention terms like socialism without knowing what it really means and beat your chest saying this is the greatest country in the world but have never stepped foot on foreign soil.


    Agree.  There is plenty of socialism in America too.  Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, Welfare, Medicare, etc.  

    There is more socialism in Europe obviously, but I don't think there is a country in the world without some socialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_bollox:


    well, when I lived there, I was in well paid employment and never paid that rate of tax.

    you're clearly one of those clowns who mention terms like socialism without knowing what it really means and beat your chest saying this is the greatest country in the world but have never stepped foot on foreign soil.


    Agree.  There is plenty of socialism in America too.  Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, Welfare, Medicare, etc.  

    There is more socialism in Europe obviously, but I don't think there is a country in the world without some socialism.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_bollox:


    well, when I lived there, I was in well paid employment and never paid that rate of tax.

    you're clearly one of those clowns who mention terms like socialism without knowing what it really means and beat your chest saying this is the greatest country in the world but have never stepped foot on foreign soil.

    you are one extremely un-educated azzhole, you make remarks, with no justification to debate, rather argue over your own opinion, never say never in regards to your american soil BS, and yes, I truly believe the USA is the greatest, most powerful financial, and military force on the planet, do you know of one better? it's clear you no doubtfully are European, your commentary gives you away, sorry if the truth hurts your feelings, have a nice holiday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_bollox:


    well, when I lived there, I was in well paid employment and never paid that rate of tax.

    you're clearly one of those clowns who mention terms like socialism without knowing what it really means and beat your chest saying this is the greatest country in the world but have never stepped foot on foreign soil.

    you are one extremely un-educated azzhole, you make remarks, with no justification to debate, rather argue over your own opinion, never say never in regards to your american soil BS, and yes, I truly believe the USA is the greatest, most powerful financial, and military force on the planet, do you know of one better? it's clear you no doubtfully are European, your commentary gives you away, sorry if the truth hurts your feelings, have a nice holiday.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:



    Agree.  There is plenty of socialism in America too.  Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, Welfare, Medicare, etc.  

    There is more socialism in Europe obviously, but I don't think there is a country in the world without some socialism.
    you definitely need to go back to school and take a refreshing course in political science, there is absolutely no socialism attached to the American government, or it's constitution, SS, UEI, welfare, Medicare, are assistance programs, of a Capitalized society, to aid the poor, and support the elderly, I don't even know why you would even mention SS ( do you even know what your talking about? or do you just simply have diarrhea of the mouth..comeback  when you get your facts in order, until then talk to your european counterpart, have a prosperous day
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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:



    Agree.  There is plenty of socialism in America too.  Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, Welfare, Medicare, etc.  

    There is more socialism in Europe obviously, but I don't think there is a country in the world without some socialism.
    you definitely need to go back to school and take a refreshing course in political science, there is absolutely no socialism attached to the American government, or it's constitution, SS, UEI, welfare, Medicare, are assistance programs, of a Capitalized society, to aid the poor, and support the elderly, I don't even know why you would even mention SS ( do you even know what your talking about? or do you just simply have diarrhea of the mouth..comeback  when you get your facts in order, until then talk to your european counterpart, have a prosperous day
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    you are one extremely un-educated azzhole, you make remarks, with no justification to debate, rather argue over your own opinion, never say never in regards to your american soil BS, and yes, I truly believe the USA is the greatest, most powerful financial, and military force on the planet, do you know of one better? it's clear you no doubtfully are European, your commentary gives you away, sorry if the truth hurts your feelings, have a nice holiday.


    well done for working out I'm european, very astute, I'm dual nationality but thats probably a concept you'll find difficult to grasp.
    Its funny you're trying to debate stuff you're googling whereas I've lived and worked in both places. 
    I'm not in any way hurt or anything, you should read what thorpe says, there is socialism in many programs here already and while europe is more down the road, there aren't people clamoring to come here like you intimate, even mexicans are staying put these days.

    Here's some free advice for you. Before you attack people because they have a different opinion to your warped views, do some actual research and speak to people in the real world.
    Its funny how you mentioned to me and thorpe about lack of education, I'd bet a dime to a dollar you barely have a high school diploma, you ignorant waste of space.




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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    you are one extremely un-educated azzhole, you make remarks, with no justification to debate, rather argue over your own opinion, never say never in regards to your american soil BS, and yes, I truly believe the USA is the greatest, most powerful financial, and military force on the planet, do you know of one better? it's clear you no doubtfully are European, your commentary gives you away, sorry if the truth hurts your feelings, have a nice holiday.


    well done for working out I'm european, very astute, I'm dual nationality but thats probably a concept you'll find difficult to grasp.
    Its funny you're trying to debate stuff you're googling whereas I've lived and worked in both places. 
    I'm not in any way hurt or anything, you should read what thorpe says, there is socialism in many programs here already and while europe is more down the road, there aren't people clamoring to come here like you intimate, even mexicans are staying put these days.

    Here's some free advice for you. Before you attack people because they have a different opinion to your warped views, do some actual research and speak to people in the real world.
    Its funny how you mentioned to me and thorpe about lack of education, I'd bet a dime to a dollar you barely have a high school diploma, you ignorant waste of space.




     
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    New Zealand, Austria, Spain, UK, Germany, Canada, Luxembourg, Taiwan, Finland, Sweden, Iceland, Norway, UAE, Hong Kong, Switzerland, Australia, Denmark, Qatar and Singapore. 

    There's a list of countries that are better to live in than the United States. 
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    New Zealand, Austria, Spain, UK, Germany, Canada, Luxembourg, Taiwan, Finland, Sweden, Iceland, Norway, UAE, Hong Kong, Switzerland, Australia, Denmark, Qatar and Singapore. 

    There's a list of countries that are better to live in than the United States. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2015 - 10:45 AM ET #16

    Iam a screen name the same as yourself, you state your opinion, I state the facts, a big difference, if by a miracle my education is limited to  high school diplomathen that must make you one super dumb imbecile, continue your charade, I am finished here, btw you still have not put any justified commentary into effect, and please child, take your so called free advice and shove it deep up in your azz; where it belongs, now go outside and play with the rest of the over the pond losers, your're actually starting to become a joke, sorry I have no response to your self inflicted comedy act... 

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    Iam a screen name the same as yourself, you state your opinion, I state the facts, a big difference, if by a miracle my education is limited to  high school diplomathen that must make you one super dumb imbecile, continue your charade, I am finished here, btw you still have not put any justified commentary into effect, and please child, take your so called free advice and shove it deep up in your azz; where it belongs, now go outside and play with the rest of the over the pond losers, your're actually starting to become a joke, sorry I have no response to your self inflicted comedy act... 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2015 - 10:57 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    Iam a screen name the same as yourself, you state your opinion, I state the facts, a big difference, if by a miracle my education is limited to  high school diplomathen that must make you one super dumb imbecile, continue your charade, I am finished here, btw you still have not put any justified commentary into effect, and please child, take your so called free advice and shove it deep up in your azz; where it belongs, now go outside and play with the rest of the over the pond losers, your're actually starting to become a joke, sorry I have no response to your self inflicted comedy act... 


    cool, great debate, I got you pegged for sure, go play with traffic
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    Iam a screen name the same as yourself, you state your opinion, I state the facts, a big difference, if by a miracle my education is limited to  high school diplomathen that must make you one super dumb imbecile, continue your charade, I am finished here, btw you still have not put any justified commentary into effect, and please child, take your so called free advice and shove it deep up in your azz; where it belongs, now go outside and play with the rest of the over the pond losers, your're actually starting to become a joke, sorry I have no response to your self inflicted comedy act... 


    cool, great debate, I got you pegged for sure, go play with traffic
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    New Zealand, Austria, Spain, UK, Germany, Canada, Luxembourg, Taiwan, Finland, Sweden, Iceland, Norway, UAE, Hong Kong, Switzerland, Australia, Denmark, Qatar and Singapore. 

    There's a list of countries that are better to live in than the United States. 
    everyone is entitled to their own opinion, this is an open forum the last time i checked, either you're an attention freak, or simply one extremely mis-informed human being, to mention the above countries, projects limited if any knowledge whatsoever in regards..btw everyone of them is deep into American pockets. you even go as far as to mention Taiwan? Qatar?  wowser, hell you may be retarded, sorry little fellow, didn't mean to jump all over you? have a good day, make sure you don't miss the short yellow bus in the morning
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    New Zealand, Austria, Spain, UK, Germany, Canada, Luxembourg, Taiwan, Finland, Sweden, Iceland, Norway, UAE, Hong Kong, Switzerland, Australia, Denmark, Qatar and Singapore. 

    There's a list of countries that are better to live in than the United States. 
    everyone is entitled to their own opinion, this is an open forum the last time i checked, either you're an attention freak, or simply one extremely mis-informed human being, to mention the above countries, projects limited if any knowledge whatsoever in regards..btw everyone of them is deep into American pockets. you even go as far as to mention Taiwan? Qatar?  wowser, hell you may be retarded, sorry little fellow, didn't mean to jump all over you? have a good day, make sure you don't miss the short yellow bus in the morning
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2015 - 11:07 AM ET #19

    I am using the safety index, life expectancy, per capita income, education index, % of employed people, corruption index, human development index, natural disaster index, environmental performance index and climate index. 

    Per Capita income in Qatar (1st) is $146,000 vs $53,000 in the United States (10th). 

    Life expectancy in Singapore (1st) is 84.5 vs 79.5 in the US (not in top 10). 

    Percent of employed people (15-64) in Qatar (4th) is 87% vs 63% in the US (not rated). 

    The safety index in Singapore (2nd) is 17.59 vs 49.99 in the US (not rated). 

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    I am using the safety index, life expectancy, per capita income, education index, % of employed people, corruption index, human development index, natural disaster index, environmental performance index and climate index. 

    Per Capita income in Qatar (1st) is $146,000 vs $53,000 in the United States (10th). 

    Life expectancy in Singapore (1st) is 84.5 vs 79.5 in the US (not in top 10). 

    Percent of employed people (15-64) in Qatar (4th) is 87% vs 63% in the US (not rated). 

    The safety index in Singapore (2nd) is 17.59 vs 49.99 in the US (not rated). 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2015 - 11:27 AM ET #20

    please, using the per capita index in relation to Qatar (a country the size of Virginia) has no justification in relation to actually residing there on a permanent basis. and the services it offers their citizens, it's an oil rich kingdom with a limited population where as 'outsiders' come as tourist, period; the rest have no debate.. Singapore? come on now...safety index? life expectancy? go live their for a year, you'll come home and thank me...
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    please, using the per capita index in relation to Qatar (a country the size of Virginia) has no justification in relation to actually residing there on a permanent basis. and the services it offers their citizens, it's an oil rich kingdom with a limited population where as 'outsiders' come as tourist, period; the rest have no debate.. Singapore? come on now...safety index? life expectancy? go live their for a year, you'll come home and thank me...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2015 - 11:31 AM ET #21

    i have four friends who have moved to europe and one to asia.  all of them are ecstatic they moved.  i wish i did.  it'd be great to live in another country and see something different.  but i was too much of a box and now it's too late. 
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    i have four friends who have moved to europe and one to asia.  all of them are ecstatic they moved.  i wish i did.  it'd be great to live in another country and see something different.  but i was too much of a box and now it's too late. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2015 - 11:45 AM ET #22

    amen....it's never to late Club
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    amen....it's never to late Club
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2015 - 11:52 AM ET #23

    you're right. 
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    you're right. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    i have four friends who have moved to europe and one to asia.  all of them are ecstatic they moved.  i wish i did.  it'd be great to live in another country and see something different.  but i was too much of a box and now it's too late. 

    +1k
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    i have four friends who have moved to europe and one to asia.  all of them are ecstatic they moved.  i wish i did.  it'd be great to live in another country and see something different.  but i was too much of a box and now it's too late. 

    +1k
     
     
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    My Dad moved to France for a few years. Got sick of all the regulations to do anything and moved back here. 
    I've thought about moving to Asia not sure if I will after visting a few times. The one thing I can advise is make sure you visit the place for an extended time before taking the leap. The little nuances of life you're accustomed to here in the States are often not part of life in other places. 
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    My Dad moved to France for a few years. Got sick of all the regulations to do anything and moved back here. 
    I've thought about moving to Asia not sure if I will after visting a few times. The one thing I can advise is make sure you visit the place for an extended time before taking the leap. The little nuances of life you're accustomed to here in the States are often not part of life in other places. 
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