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    Anyone betting on the Kentucky Derby?

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    Pendo
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    Posted: May. 6, 2017 - 1:42 PM ET #26

    WHEEL ON DERBY-DAY

    This Derby will be thrown off track by inclement weather;
    something ludicrous can transpire under the Twin Spires.

    A sloppy track means there are no really "dominant"
    horses one can count on — not in this year's field.

    One can play $1 boxes, just cough up the nec. $1026.  
    Hey man, it's only happening once a year, so eat it.
    Then focus and observe open-mindedly each of the
    ponies in the Post Parade => you'll see who looks
    the fittest, most composed, relaxed, and happy to run.
    Double-Check it's not 1st-time Lasix induced.

    Then, you Wheel that horse with the entire field:
    1st, 2nd, & 3rd place in a Trifecta-box costing $1026
    with the rest of the field's post positions.  
    That key horse need only "hit the board" to win —
    and with so many entries and a sloppy track
    the payout can very well be rather large at that.


    One can also do the aforesaid in 50-cent Trifectas,
    which cuts the initial outlay in half ($513).

    20k yields are not uncommon; 3k's the min. pay.


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    WHEEL ON DERBY-DAY

    This Derby will be thrown off track by inclement weather;
    something ludicrous can transpire under the Twin Spires.

    A sloppy track means there are no really "dominant"
    horses one can count on — not in this year's field.

    One can play $1 boxes, just cough up the nec. $1026.  
    Hey man, it's only happening once a year, so eat it.
    Then focus and observe open-mindedly each of the
    ponies in the Post Parade => you'll see who looks
    the fittest, most composed, relaxed, and happy to run.
    Double-Check it's not 1st-time Lasix induced.

    Then, you Wheel that horse with the entire field:
    1st, 2nd, & 3rd place in a Trifecta-box costing $1026
    with the rest of the field's post positions.  
    That key horse need only "hit the board" to win —
    and with so many entries and a sloppy track
    the payout can very well be rather large at that.


    One can also do the aforesaid in 50-cent Trifectas,
    which cuts the initial outlay in half ($513).

    20k yields are not uncommon; 3k's the min. pay.


     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2017 - 2:07 PM ET #27

    my book offers h2h matchups, any good picks ?
    -120
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    my book offers h2h matchups, any good picks ?
    -120
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2017 - 2:15 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Pendo:



    Rather than doing your Homework...
    — Playing with your pud —

    "Johnson" as you uniquely like to call it -
    at least in the past got you some serious WINNERS:

    Sunday Silence, and Real Quiet,
    I'll Have Another
    Genuine Risk, Go for Gin, and Super Saver



    Now, while the thought of a group of women gabbing over mimosas at brunch and one of them shrieks out:
    "Oh my GAWD! I was once with this guy in college! He had the tiniest little PENDO you've ever seen!!!" - followed by raucous laughter is hilarious, there's no horse named that. So, since you brought it up, let's look at some other derby winners:

    American Pharoah - Yeah, given the right circumstance, I can see that
    California Chrome - pretty strong Johnson alias.....
    "Big Brown" - C'mon "Big Brown"!
    Smarty Jones - implies pain in a pleasurable way.
    War Emblem - Prepare for battle, ladies!!
    Charismatic - Bond, James Bond.....
    Grindstone - might be into some weird stuff....
    Lil E. Tee - An alien version of "Pendo"
    Unbridled - This guy can't be tamed!


    Like I said - I'm going with Thunder Snow, Win/Place

    See you all at the finish line with a mint julep!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendo:



    Rather than doing your Homework...
    — Playing with your pud —

    "Johnson" as you uniquely like to call it -
    at least in the past got you some serious WINNERS:

    Sunday Silence, and Real Quiet,
    I'll Have Another
    Genuine Risk, Go for Gin, and Super Saver



    Now, while the thought of a group of women gabbing over mimosas at brunch and one of them shrieks out:
    "Oh my GAWD! I was once with this guy in college! He had the tiniest little PENDO you've ever seen!!!" - followed by raucous laughter is hilarious, there's no horse named that. So, since you brought it up, let's look at some other derby winners:

    American Pharoah - Yeah, given the right circumstance, I can see that
    California Chrome - pretty strong Johnson alias.....
    "Big Brown" - C'mon "Big Brown"!
    Smarty Jones - implies pain in a pleasurable way.
    War Emblem - Prepare for battle, ladies!!
    Charismatic - Bond, James Bond.....
    Grindstone - might be into some weird stuff....
    Lil E. Tee - An alien version of "Pendo"
    Unbridled - This guy can't be tamed!


    Like I said - I'm going with Thunder Snow, Win/Place

    See you all at the finish line with a mint julep!!

     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2017 - 3:29 PM ET #29

    @GMN,

    Suppose it could be worse
    were the RONDO's square
    and not deemed BIG COJONES.

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    @GMN,

    Suppose it could be worse
    were the RONDO's square
    and not deemed BIG COJONES.

     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2017 - 3:30 PM ET #30

    There's some speed figure metrics out there to capp with:
    Beyer, Bris, Equibase, and Timeform, to name but a few.
    They each weight + evaluate differently, but in unison
    are more productive for comparison intents & purposes.

    Beyer, Bris, Equibase, and Timeform — Best #, Last #
    Classic Empire:  102, 94;  108, 96;  116, 103;  123, 113.
    Irap:  93, 93;  100, 100;  101, 101;  121, 121.
    Always Dreaming:  97, 97;  102, 102;  101, 100;  118, 118.
    Irish War Cry: 101, 101;  102, 102;  110, 111;  118, 118
    Gunnevera:  97, 88;  102, 95;  108, 107;  117, 113.
    McCracken:  95, 88;  99, 96;  105, 104;  116, 116.
    Gormley: 94, 88;  102, 99;  116, 116;  116, 112.
    Tapwrit: 96, 76;  101, 87;  107, 106;  112, 106
    Hence:  97, 97;  103, 103;  97, 97;  108, 108.
    Patch:  89, 89;  101, 98;  105, 105;  108, 108.
    Reply
    There's some speed figure metrics out there to capp with:
    Beyer, Bris, Equibase, and Timeform, to name but a few.
    They each weight + evaluate differently, but in unison
    are more productive for comparison intents & purposes.

    Beyer, Bris, Equibase, and Timeform — Best #, Last #
    Classic Empire:  102, 94;  108, 96;  116, 103;  123, 113.
    Irap:  93, 93;  100, 100;  101, 101;  121, 121.
    Always Dreaming:  97, 97;  102, 102;  101, 100;  118, 118.
    Irish War Cry: 101, 101;  102, 102;  110, 111;  118, 118
    Gunnevera:  97, 88;  102, 95;  108, 107;  117, 113.
    McCracken:  95, 88;  99, 96;  105, 104;  116, 116.
    Gormley: 94, 88;  102, 99;  116, 116;  116, 112.
    Tapwrit: 96, 76;  101, 87;  107, 106;  112, 106
    Hence:  97, 97;  103, 103;  97, 97;  108, 108.
    Patch:  89, 89;  101, 98;  105, 105;  108, 108.
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2017 - 3:33 PM ET #31

    Graham Motion set up Animal Kingdom to win the Derby in '11,
    and he's doing it again with Irish War Cry, the speedster, who won
    both of his sprints as a juvenile, including a minor stakes at Laurel
    before getting loose on the lead and going wire-to-wire in the
    Grade II, Holy Bull held at Gulfstream, breezing over the juvenile
    champ Classic Empire (this Derby's odds-on favorite).  Holy Bull
    was his first start this year, wherein he controlled a moderate pace.
    His Wood Memorial victory was even greater as he cruised early
    and then went in the middle stages to take on a very strong pace.

    Irish War Cry got the same 101 Beyer Speed Figure in the Wood
    that he made in the Holy Bull; most noteworthy b/c the 20 horses
    in this Derby-field combined for 129 career starts and yet earned
    only four triple-digit Beyers — Irish War Cry's got two of them !!

    Only four triple-digit Beyers to be found in last year’s Derby field.
    Nyquist & Exaggerator had 1 each => they hit the board one-two.

    8 horses in 2015's Derby field ran 16 triple-digit Beyers.
    American Pharoah owned four of those himself, dominating that
    Kentucky Derby. It stands to reason speed matters, but it isn't all.
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    Graham Motion set up Animal Kingdom to win the Derby in '11,
    and he's doing it again with Irish War Cry, the speedster, who won
    both of his sprints as a juvenile, including a minor stakes at Laurel
    before getting loose on the lead and going wire-to-wire in the
    Grade II, Holy Bull held at Gulfstream, breezing over the juvenile
    champ Classic Empire (this Derby's odds-on favorite).  Holy Bull
    was his first start this year, wherein he controlled a moderate pace.
    His Wood Memorial victory was even greater as he cruised early
    and then went in the middle stages to take on a very strong pace.

    Irish War Cry got the same 101 Beyer Speed Figure in the Wood
    that he made in the Holy Bull; most noteworthy b/c the 20 horses
    in this Derby-field combined for 129 career starts and yet earned
    only four triple-digit Beyers — Irish War Cry's got two of them !!

    Only four triple-digit Beyers to be found in last year’s Derby field.
    Nyquist & Exaggerator had 1 each => they hit the board one-two.

    8 horses in 2015's Derby field ran 16 triple-digit Beyers.
    American Pharoah owned four of those himself, dominating that
    Kentucky Derby. It stands to reason speed matters, but it isn't all.
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2017 - 4:55 PM ET #32

    Thunder Snow to beat Untrapped -182.
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    Thunder Snow to beat Untrapped -182.
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2017 - 7:30 PM ET #33

     Thunder snow


    I wagered on on rodeo horse.
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     Thunder snow


    I wagered on on rodeo horse.
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2017 - 2:55 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

     Thunder snow


    I wagered on on rodeo horse.


    Now that's funny .......he looked just like one.. having a bucking and bronking fit out there..
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    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

     Thunder snow


    I wagered on on rodeo horse.


    Now that's funny .......he looked just like one.. having a bucking and bronking fit out there..
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2017 - 8:52 AM ET #35

    This thread is plush with losers.

    Thanks for starting it, scal ... another fine contribution 
    bigreds daddy
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    This thread is plush with losers.

    Thanks for starting it, scal ... another fine contribution 
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2017 - 9:09 AM ET #36

    I got Thunder Snowblind in a blind draw..................ugh


    "And coming out of chute #2, IT'S THUNDER SNOW!"

    My only question is, did the rider stay on the mandatory 8 seconds?
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    I got Thunder Snowblind in a blind draw..................ugh


    "And coming out of chute #2, IT'S THUNDER SNOW!"

    My only question is, did the rider stay on the mandatory 8 seconds?
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2017 - 10:40 AM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by GimmeMoneyNow:


    Scal, you should bet the house on "Looking At Lee"

    "WOKKA WOKKA!!!!!"

    See Scal, should've listened to me. If you'd of had him to place, you were the big winner of the day. Paid $26.60, best payout on the board.....

    Stupid Thunder Snow! 
    Blew up on the launching pad....
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    Quote Originally Posted by GimmeMoneyNow:


    Scal, you should bet the house on "Looking At Lee"

    "WOKKA WOKKA!!!!!"

    See Scal, should've listened to me. If you'd of had him to place, you were the big winner of the day. Paid $26.60, best payout on the board.....

    Stupid Thunder Snow! 
    Blew up on the launching pad....
     
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2017 - 12:28 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:

    I got Thunder Snowblind in a blind draw..................ugh


    "And coming out of chute #2, IT'S THUNDER SNOW!"

    My only question is, did the rider stay on the mandatory 8 seconds?


    Yes but he failed to twirl his arm and shout yeeeehaaaaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:

    I got Thunder Snowblind in a blind draw..................ugh


    "And coming out of chute #2, IT'S THUNDER SNOW!"

    My only question is, did the rider stay on the mandatory 8 seconds?


    Yes but he failed to twirl his arm and shout yeeeehaaaaw

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