HAVANA — U.S. Secretary of State John Kerrycalled for an end to "mutual isolation" and issued an impassioned plea for democracy in Cuba as the American flag was raised outside the recently reopened U.S. Embassy here Friday for the first time in 54 years.
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HAVANA — U.S. Secretary of State John Kerrycalled for an end to "mutual isolation" and issued an impassioned plea for democracy in Cuba as the American flag was raised outside the recently reopened U.S. Embassy here Friday for the first time in 54 years.
HAVANA — U.S. Secretary of State John Kerrycalled for an end to "mutual isolation" and issued an impassioned plea for democracy in Cuba as the American flag was raised outside the recently reopened U.S. Embassy here Friday for the first time in 54 years.
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John Kerry named names......
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
HAVANA — U.S. Secretary of State John Kerrycalled for an end to "mutual isolation" and issued an impassioned plea for democracy in Cuba as the American flag was raised outside the recently reopened U.S. Embassy here Friday for the first time in 54 years.
All the Cubans can finally sell their 1950's Chevys for big money.
Unfortunately for the Cubans there is little interest from Americans in the cars,, seems only the chassis is original in most...many have Peugeot engines
Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:
All the Cubans can finally sell their 1950's Chevys for big money.
Unfortunately for the Cubans there is little interest from Americans in the cars,, seems only the chassis is original in most...many have Peugeot engines
yeah... really awesome how this administration wants to give credibility to the communist government of Cuba after Castro jailed and tortured my Grandfather and took all the material possessions my family worked for (obviously all families fleeing Cuba faced similar circumstances. ) I'm sure Detox wouldn't be so happy if Obama took everything he owned and Detox was forced to move to a foreign country.
thank you for showing us how small of a world you live in Detox, you fkng clown.
yeah... really awesome how this administration wants to give credibility to the communist government of Cuba after Castro jailed and tortured my Grandfather and took all the material possessions my family worked for (obviously all families fleeing Cuba faced similar circumstances. ) I'm sure Detox wouldn't be so happy if Obama took everything he owned and Detox was forced to move to a foreign country.
thank you for showing us how small of a world you live in Detox, you fkng clown.
yeah... really awesome how this administration wants to give credibility to the communist government of Cuba after Castro jailed and tortured my Grandfather and took all the material possessions my family worked for (obviously all families fleeing Cuba faced similar circumstances. ) I'm sure Detox wouldn't be so happy if Obama took everything he owned and Detox was forced to move to a foreign country.
thank you for showing us how small of a world you live in Detox, you fkng clown.
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Liberals are too shortsighted and simpleminded to understand these things
Quote Originally Posted by HighScore:
yeah... really awesome how this administration wants to give credibility to the communist government of Cuba after Castro jailed and tortured my Grandfather and took all the material possessions my family worked for (obviously all families fleeing Cuba faced similar circumstances. ) I'm sure Detox wouldn't be so happy if Obama took everything he owned and Detox was forced to move to a foreign country.
thank you for showing us how small of a world you live in Detox, you fkng clown.
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Liberals are too shortsighted and simpleminded to understand these things
yeah... really awesome how this administration wants to give credibility to the communist government of Cuba after Castro jailed and tortured my Grandfather and took all the material possessions my family worked for (obviously all families fleeing Cuba faced similar circumstances. ) I'm sure Detox wouldn't be so happy if Obama took everything he owned and Detox was forced to move to a foreign country.
thank you for showing us how small of a world you live in Detox, you fkng clown.
let me see if i have your logic right. because castro f*cked over your family, you are in favor of keeping these useless restrictions on cuba so the cuban citizens still there get f*cked also?
Quote Originally Posted by HighScore:
yeah... really awesome how this administration wants to give credibility to the communist government of Cuba after Castro jailed and tortured my Grandfather and took all the material possessions my family worked for (obviously all families fleeing Cuba faced similar circumstances. ) I'm sure Detox wouldn't be so happy if Obama took everything he owned and Detox was forced to move to a foreign country.
thank you for showing us how small of a world you live in Detox, you fkng clown.
let me see if i have your logic right. because castro f*cked over your family, you are in favor of keeping these useless restrictions on cuba so the cuban citizens still there get f*cked also?
Liberals are too shortsighted and simpleminded to understand these things
let me see if i have your definition of liberals right. the "big government liberals" are the ones against our government telling the people where they can travel and who they can do business with and the "small government conservatives" are in favor of big government telling US citizens where they can and can't travel, who they can and can't do business with and how other countries should run themselves.
Quote Originally Posted by thecentaur:
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Liberals are too shortsighted and simpleminded to understand these things
let me see if i have your definition of liberals right. the "big government liberals" are the ones against our government telling the people where they can travel and who they can do business with and the "small government conservatives" are in favor of big government telling US citizens where they can and can't travel, who they can and can't do business with and how other countries should run themselves.
let me see if i have your logic right. because castro f*cked over your family, you are in favor of keeping these useless restrictions on cuba so the cuban citizens still there get f*cked also?
its not 'my logic'. its what actually happened.
it wasn't just my family but the thousands of families that left because they believe in free will.
and you think lifting these restrictions will keep the cuban people from getting f*cked????
Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
let me see if i have your logic right. because castro f*cked over your family, you are in favor of keeping these useless restrictions on cuba so the cuban citizens still there get f*cked also?
its not 'my logic'. its what actually happened.
it wasn't just my family but the thousands of families that left because they believe in free will.
and you think lifting these restrictions will keep the cuban people from getting f*cked????
it wasn't just my family but the thousands of families that left because they believe in free will.
and you think lifting these restrictions will keep the cuban people from getting f*cked????
i don't think you understood the logic part. i'm not saying that didn't happen to your family. i don't doubt that it did. the logic i didn't understand is why we should continue to punish cuban people because of it.
i do think allowing expanded economic opportunities and allowing people to send more money to their friends and relatives in cuba will be an improvement for cuban people.
also, what has 54 years of sanctions against cuiba accomplished?
also, why should my government be telling me i can't travel to cuban or spend my money in cuba or do business with cuba?
also, why is our government is the business of telling cuba how to run their country and even if we were in that business (because we've done so well telling spreading "freedom" and democracy to other countries) why would we think continuing 50+ years of sanctions that haven't worked so far will start working now?
Quote Originally Posted by HighScore:
its not 'my logic'. its what actually happened.
it wasn't just my family but the thousands of families that left because they believe in free will.
and you think lifting these restrictions will keep the cuban people from getting f*cked????
i don't think you understood the logic part. i'm not saying that didn't happen to your family. i don't doubt that it did. the logic i didn't understand is why we should continue to punish cuban people because of it.
i do think allowing expanded economic opportunities and allowing people to send more money to their friends and relatives in cuba will be an improvement for cuban people.
also, what has 54 years of sanctions against cuiba accomplished?
also, why should my government be telling me i can't travel to cuban or spend my money in cuba or do business with cuba?
also, why is our government is the business of telling cuba how to run their country and even if we were in that business (because we've done so well telling spreading "freedom" and democracy to other countries) why would we think continuing 50+ years of sanctions that haven't worked so far will start working now?
I don't think they tell you where you can go or not to go. The government doesn't actually "enforce" the travel to Cuba restrictions, it's in the same sphere as our immigration "laws". They don't enforce them either (see the loser that got deported 5x and then killed the girl in SF if you need any evidence.)
Your free to go to N. Korea if you wish, ask Dennis Rodman.
If you really believe that us making nice with Cuba will help the Cuban "people", you really are naive...
The saying "Your judged by the company you keep" is very telling. 0 is just so much smarter than the previous 8 presidents since JFK and a man that has Al Sharpton to the White-house over 100 times is clearly a well informed/advised man. Clearly this is a great idea, why should anyone even question it, all the commies love it.
I don't think they tell you where you can go or not to go. The government doesn't actually "enforce" the travel to Cuba restrictions, it's in the same sphere as our immigration "laws". They don't enforce them either (see the loser that got deported 5x and then killed the girl in SF if you need any evidence.)
Your free to go to N. Korea if you wish, ask Dennis Rodman.
If you really believe that us making nice with Cuba will help the Cuban "people", you really are naive...
The saying "Your judged by the company you keep" is very telling. 0 is just so much smarter than the previous 8 presidents since JFK and a man that has Al Sharpton to the White-house over 100 times is clearly a well informed/advised man. Clearly this is a great idea, why should anyone even question it, all the commies love it.
i guess i could swim to cuba but the government prevents me from getting on a plane and flying there ,ike i can most other places.
i do think opening the american market to cuban people and allowing them expanded economic opportunities along with allowing their friends and relatives in the US to send cuban people more money to pay their bills, start businesses etc and opening uo tourism so more people can come to cuba to spend money there will help them. seems logical. i guess we'll see.
if in a couple of years this somehow hasn't helped anyone in cuba at all, feel free to check back with me and let me know how naive i was about that.
i guess i could swim to cuba but the government prevents me from getting on a plane and flying there ,ike i can most other places.
i do think opening the american market to cuban people and allowing them expanded economic opportunities along with allowing their friends and relatives in the US to send cuban people more money to pay their bills, start businesses etc and opening uo tourism so more people can come to cuba to spend money there will help them. seems logical. i guess we'll see.
if in a couple of years this somehow hasn't helped anyone in cuba at all, feel free to check back with me and let me know how naive i was about that.
There's a travel embargo still in place. Religious, educational, humanitarian and professional trips are allowed.
Obama will do what he can to ease up on the embargo. Jet Blue just began direct charters from NY to Havana. Carnival will have have a ship going from Miami to Havana starting in May '16.
Things are heading in the right direction. The embargo is un-American.
There's a travel embargo still in place. Religious, educational, humanitarian and professional trips are allowed.
Obama will do what he can to ease up on the embargo. Jet Blue just began direct charters from NY to Havana. Carnival will have have a ship going from Miami to Havana starting in May '16.
Things are heading in the right direction. The embargo is un-American.
i'm not following the logic here of killer and highscore. if lifting sanctions don't help the people of the sanctioned country, what's the point of imposing sanctions in the first place?
i'm not following the logic here of killer and highscore. if lifting sanctions don't help the people of the sanctioned country, what's the point of imposing sanctions in the first place?
i'm not following the logic here of killer and highscore. if lifting sanctions don't help the people of the sanctioned country, what's the point of imposing sanctions in the first place?
1. They don't like anything Obama does.
2. You're and your give them a hard time. Do you think they're capable of grasping who the sanctions end up hurting?
Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
i'm not following the logic here of killer and highscore. if lifting sanctions don't help the people of the sanctioned country, what's the point of imposing sanctions in the first place?
1. They don't like anything Obama does.
2. You're and your give them a hard time. Do you think they're capable of grasping who the sanctions end up hurting?
2. You're and your give them a hard time. Do you think they're capable of grasping who the sanctions end up hurting?
something tells me the castro family and the government elite are doing fine and the cuban people are suffering the brunt of the sanctions, not the other way around.
2. You're and your give them a hard time. Do you think they're capable of grasping who the sanctions end up hurting?
something tells me the castro family and the government elite are doing fine and the cuban people are suffering the brunt of the sanctions, not the other way around.
And they (the Castros) still will Club with or without the embargo...
Detox, a friend of mine went to Cuba 2 years ago for a vacation. Wouldn't a true "travel restriction" eliminate ALL TRAVEL? I'll have to check which heading he claimed the travel was under. Like I said naive...
And they (the Castros) still will Club with or without the embargo...
Detox, a friend of mine went to Cuba 2 years ago for a vacation. Wouldn't a true "travel restriction" eliminate ALL TRAVEL? I'll have to check which heading he claimed the travel was under. Like I said naive...
let me see if i have your definition of liberals right. the "big government liberals" are the ones against our government telling the people where they can travel and who they can do business with and the "small government conservatives" are in favor of big government telling US citizens where they can and can't travel, who they can and can't do business with and how other countries should run themselves.
Wow you sure just put a lot of words in my mouth
By liberals I mean people like detox who routinely side against the traditional values and policies of the USA
Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
let me see if i have your definition of liberals right. the "big government liberals" are the ones against our government telling the people where they can travel and who they can do business with and the "small government conservatives" are in favor of big government telling US citizens where they can and can't travel, who they can and can't do business with and how other countries should run themselves.
Wow you sure just put a lot of words in my mouth
By liberals I mean people like detox who routinely side against the traditional values and policies of the USA
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