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    African-American Officer Jay Stalien. The words of a true American hero.

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    ilsp2003
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2016 - 9:28 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    D) How many people have the robbed

    E) How many cops have they shot

    F) How many businesses did they burn in their own neighborhood

    H) This is getting boring......


    But hey, BLM 

    You are off topic . stay focused  
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    D) How many people have the robbed

    E) How many cops have they shot

    F) How many businesses did they burn in their own neighborhood

    H) This is getting boring......


    But hey, BLM 

    You are off topic . stay focused  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2016 - 10:19 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    You are off topic . stay focused  
    Incorrect. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    You are off topic . stay focused  
    Incorrect. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2016 - 5:32 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:




    Due process is part of the 14th Amendment
    No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his
    rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled, or deprived of his standing in any other way, nor will we proceed with force against him, or send others to do so, except by the lawful judgment of his equals or by the law of the land.[2]




    can't argue, or debate the United States constitution....both men were Murdered in the second degree, as of today, NO charges have been filed, nothing, zero..just a bunch of political correctiveness, and speeches to the contrary, Obama, and Bush did nothing except talk in circles...and HRC, her speech on the subject matter was enough to make an American patriot vomit; no wonder why Trumps popularity soared in Florida, Ohio, and Pennsyvania, over the past week...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:




    Due process is part of the 14th Amendment
    No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his
    rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled, or deprived of his standing in any other way, nor will we proceed with force against him, or send others to do so, except by the lawful judgment of his equals or by the law of the land.[2]




    can't argue, or debate the United States constitution....both men were Murdered in the second degree, as of today, NO charges have been filed, nothing, zero..just a bunch of political correctiveness, and speeches to the contrary, Obama, and Bush did nothing except talk in circles...and HRC, her speech on the subject matter was enough to make an American patriot vomit; no wonder why Trumps popularity soared in Florida, Ohio, and Pennsyvania, over the past week...
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2016 - 1:15 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

    "when every time they called …I was there. Every time someone died….I was there. Every time they were going through one of the worst moments in their lives…I was there. "

     

    You mean you were doing your job?

    OK. Sweet. I do my job too. In fact, If I

    don't do my job, aka NOT BE THERE, I will not have that job. I will not have my nice pay. My nice benefits. My nice vacation pay. My nice paid holidays. Got it?

    Now you want credit for going where the dispatcher tells you to go?

    Some of these cops act like theyre volunteering .

     

    Also gotta love when a gang member is killed by another gang member and the black community is attacked for not marching.

    Gang members aren't being paid to protect the community

    When a gang member kills someone, well goddamnit , he was a gang member. That's what they do.

    Cops are not supposed to kill unarmed people in the community.

    Last year 108 unarmed black men were killed by police.

    All justified right? Please give me a break. Please.

     

    https://www.instagram.com/tnorman23/?hl=en

     

    That is a police hero. That is how you make your community a better place. Don't give me that bullshi* about these cops care about their community. They just want to collect a check. I know many cops. A lot of them did it for the money. Suffolk, Long Island. Big Money. I know plenty.

    This guy is a hero. He takes time, energy, love, food, snacks, water guns, and gives them to his community. They are VERY VERY VERY rare people. Bless you Officer Norman.

    The Officer who wrote the article was damn near spit on in his own neighborhood. Hated. They wanted him dead.

    Officer Norman is loved,and treated like a family member.

    Do you think Officer Norman would be hated if he patrolled where the officer who wrote this article patrolled?

    ABSOLUTELY NOT.

    Again,  give me a break with this nonsense.

     

    So, how do you suggest the problem of "unarmed black men being killed at alarming rates" be solved?

    As for the "its his job and he gets paid to do it" just like you do:

    1) Is your job dangerous and potentially fatal?

    2) Do you have to cross socioeconomic divides daily to try and preserve civilized behavior?

    Just curious.....I mean, media scrutiny, cameras on the policeman's body, cameras in the streets, DOJ investigations in wrongful shootings...what else can be done? All black police force? Never fire upon minorities again, no matter what?

    Really, instead of sitting back and being captain obvious, how should the problem be solved?

    Maybe black lives matter should be protesting gang murders, and the criminal enterprise that operates within their communities. Seems like if you get rid of the crime organically, without law enforcement, then you sort of take care of the whole problem.

    But, that is a tough sell....and a tough job...that would take time, effort, and lives. We are talking about the social dynamics of an intimidated populace.....not an easy thing to change.

    So, it is much easier to march against the evil white cop and get a lead story on the news.....but, what is the real solution? Will this problem ever be "solved."

    Never Make A Winner A Loser. Never.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

    "when every time they called …I was there. Every time someone died….I was there. Every time they were going through one of the worst moments in their lives…I was there. "

     

    You mean you were doing your job?

    OK. Sweet. I do my job too. In fact, If I

    don't do my job, aka NOT BE THERE, I will not have that job. I will not have my nice pay. My nice benefits. My nice vacation pay. My nice paid holidays. Got it?

    Now you want credit for going where the dispatcher tells you to go?

    Some of these cops act like theyre volunteering .

     

    Also gotta love when a gang member is killed by another gang member and the black community is attacked for not marching.

    Gang members aren't being paid to protect the community

    When a gang member kills someone, well goddamnit , he was a gang member. That's what they do.

    Cops are not supposed to kill unarmed people in the community.

    Last year 108 unarmed black men were killed by police.

    All justified right? Please give me a break. Please.

     

    https://www.instagram.com/tnorman23/?hl=en

     

    That is a police hero. That is how you make your community a better place. Don't give me that bullshi* about these cops care about their community. They just want to collect a check. I know many cops. A lot of them did it for the money. Suffolk, Long Island. Big Money. I know plenty.

    This guy is a hero. He takes time, energy, love, food, snacks, water guns, and gives them to his community. They are VERY VERY VERY rare people. Bless you Officer Norman.

    The Officer who wrote the article was damn near spit on in his own neighborhood. Hated. They wanted him dead.

    Officer Norman is loved,and treated like a family member.

    Do you think Officer Norman would be hated if he patrolled where the officer who wrote this article patrolled?

    ABSOLUTELY NOT.

    Again,  give me a break with this nonsense.

     

    So, how do you suggest the problem of "unarmed black men being killed at alarming rates" be solved?

    As for the "its his job and he gets paid to do it" just like you do:

    1) Is your job dangerous and potentially fatal?

    2) Do you have to cross socioeconomic divides daily to try and preserve civilized behavior?

    Just curious.....I mean, media scrutiny, cameras on the policeman's body, cameras in the streets, DOJ investigations in wrongful shootings...what else can be done? All black police force? Never fire upon minorities again, no matter what?

    Really, instead of sitting back and being captain obvious, how should the problem be solved?

    Maybe black lives matter should be protesting gang murders, and the criminal enterprise that operates within their communities. Seems like if you get rid of the crime organically, without law enforcement, then you sort of take care of the whole problem.

    But, that is a tough sell....and a tough job...that would take time, effort, and lives. We are talking about the social dynamics of an intimidated populace.....not an easy thing to change.

    So, it is much easier to march against the evil white cop and get a lead story on the news.....but, what is the real solution? Will this problem ever be "solved."

     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2016 - 5:59 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    1) what are you smoking while typing this BS or what did you smoke before typing it

    Philando Castile was a thug. You have his criminal record
    Care to cite your sources . FBI report or anything else

    Say for instance Sterling,Castile or any other black killed by police,  were breaking the law, does "due process " mena anything to you

    Due process is part of the 14th Amendment
    No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his
    rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled, or deprived of his standing in any other way, nor will we proceed with force against him, or send others to do so, except by the lawful judgment of his equals or by the law of the land.[2]

    2)  You stated that BLM is nothing but a terrorist gang

    Are you high ?

    If no what terrorist acts are you talking about ?


    A) How many white peoples have BLM lynched ?

    B)How many crosses have BLM burnt in front of white people houses

    C) How many  churches have BLM bombed  ?


    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/10/falcon-heights-philando-castile-shooting-update-radio-dispatch-and-dash-cams/

    Philando Castile was a CRIPS gang member.

    The officer that killed the thug was Hispanic not white by the way.
    The reason Castile was pulled over was because he matched the description of an armed robbery suspect that happened to be black not because he was black. We haven't even seen the dash-cam or body-cam video yet. That will reveal the truth.

    What are you talking about, due-process? What happened wasn’t a legal proceeding. What happened was the use of deadly force by an officer. Did you know that police officers are granted legal authority to use deadly force set forth and defined by common law, statute, and case law?

    Police officer's are granted legal authority to use deadly force when apprehending someone reasonably believed to have committed a felony, when there is reasonable assumption of a threat to life, threat to innocent bystanders, and for self-defense and the defense of others.

    Castile was shot multiple times for not listening to the officer’s demands not to go for his weapon.

    Sterling was a felon, sex offender, and bloods gang member that resisted arrest while trying to reach for an illegal firearm. The thug’s intent was to shoot the officer with the gun. The officer warned him. He resisted and was tased twice. The officers tried to gain control of the suspect but were being outmuscled. The thug was reaching for his gun to use on the officers and the officers responded with lethal force. Police officers have a right, and a duty, to stop the attempted murder before it is completed. Had officers waited until Sterling had a gun pointed at them, then there would have been no way for them to stop him from shooting. Police officers do not, and should not, and are under no obligation - to have to wait until after somebody has attempted to murder them before they can act. Officers followed the Use of Force Continuum and the Totality of the Circumstances Standard. The officers did what they were trained to do.

    Black Lives Matter is a domestic terrorist organization. According to the FBI: “Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics: Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law; Appear intended (I) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. Or kidnapping; and Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S. The Black Lives Matter hate speeches, burnings, robberies, ransacking, shootings, the blocking of roads and highways, openly encouraging violence towards police, and the group incited the deaths of 9 officers. BLM fit the definition of a domestic terrorist organization/hate group perfectly.

    It’s never black construction workers, teachers, accountants, pilots, veterinarians, professors, technicians, computer specialists, engineers, machinists, coaches, miners, painters, electricians, farmers, fisherman, plumbers, dentists, mechanics, real estate agents, carpenters, pharmacists, doctors, nurses, lawyers, military personnel, correction officers, judges, welders, firemen, scientists etc… getting killed by cops. Not a single model citizen. It’s always thugs or wannabe thugs. THUG lives don’t matter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    1) what are you smoking while typing this BS or what did you smoke before typing it

    Philando Castile was a thug. You have his criminal record
    Care to cite your sources . FBI report or anything else

    Say for instance Sterling,Castile or any other black killed by police,  were breaking the law, does "due process " mena anything to you

    Due process is part of the 14th Amendment
    No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his
    rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled, or deprived of his standing in any other way, nor will we proceed with force against him, or send others to do so, except by the lawful judgment of his equals or by the law of the land.[2]

    2)  You stated that BLM is nothing but a terrorist gang

    Are you high ?

    If no what terrorist acts are you talking about ?


    A) How many white peoples have BLM lynched ?

    B)How many crosses have BLM burnt in front of white people houses

    C) How many  churches have BLM bombed  ?


    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/10/falcon-heights-philando-castile-shooting-update-radio-dispatch-and-dash-cams/

    Philando Castile was a CRIPS gang member.

    The officer that killed the thug was Hispanic not white by the way.
    The reason Castile was pulled over was because he matched the description of an armed robbery suspect that happened to be black not because he was black. We haven't even seen the dash-cam or body-cam video yet. That will reveal the truth.

    What are you talking about, due-process? What happened wasn’t a legal proceeding. What happened was the use of deadly force by an officer. Did you know that police officers are granted legal authority to use deadly force set forth and defined by common law, statute, and case law?

    Police officer's are granted legal authority to use deadly force when apprehending someone reasonably believed to have committed a felony, when there is reasonable assumption of a threat to life, threat to innocent bystanders, and for self-defense and the defense of others.

    Castile was shot multiple times for not listening to the officer’s demands not to go for his weapon.

    Sterling was a felon, sex offender, and bloods gang member that resisted arrest while trying to reach for an illegal firearm. The thug’s intent was to shoot the officer with the gun. The officer warned him. He resisted and was tased twice. The officers tried to gain control of the suspect but were being outmuscled. The thug was reaching for his gun to use on the officers and the officers responded with lethal force. Police officers have a right, and a duty, to stop the attempted murder before it is completed. Had officers waited until Sterling had a gun pointed at them, then there would have been no way for them to stop him from shooting. Police officers do not, and should not, and are under no obligation - to have to wait until after somebody has attempted to murder them before they can act. Officers followed the Use of Force Continuum and the Totality of the Circumstances Standard. The officers did what they were trained to do.

    Black Lives Matter is a domestic terrorist organization. According to the FBI: “Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics: Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law; Appear intended (I) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. Or kidnapping; and Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S. The Black Lives Matter hate speeches, burnings, robberies, ransacking, shootings, the blocking of roads and highways, openly encouraging violence towards police, and the group incited the deaths of 9 officers. BLM fit the definition of a domestic terrorist organization/hate group perfectly.

    It’s never black construction workers, teachers, accountants, pilots, veterinarians, professors, technicians, computer specialists, engineers, machinists, coaches, miners, painters, electricians, farmers, fisherman, plumbers, dentists, mechanics, real estate agents, carpenters, pharmacists, doctors, nurses, lawyers, military personnel, correction officers, judges, welders, firemen, scientists etc… getting killed by cops. Not a single model citizen. It’s always thugs or wannabe thugs. THUG lives don’t matter!

     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2016 - 6:35 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Samuelsosa - What a load of crap. Pure fiction! You live in a fantasy world. Cops get paid jack squat for what they do. Wake up every day with the threat of dying 12+ hours a day - 5 days a week + overtime, on-call vacation, and on-call holidays, on the job 24/7. Yeah - such a glamorous job. Being a cop is a job of sacrifice! It is a volunteer job, just like being a soldier.

    Stop the BS false narrative of 108 unarmed black men were killed by police. What was the totality of the circumstances in each of those deaths? How many of those shootings were found to be justifiable? I'm guessing - all of them were found to be justifiable!

    Let me guess what happened in those cases - the black men were fighting or resisting or reaching for the officer’s weapon or made a motion that implied the suspect had a weapon and of course all were likely wearing the uniform of a thug also. Were any of the unarmed blacks educated, hard working, law abiding, model citizen, contributing members of society? I’ll answer that for you. NOPE! I bet they were thugs with lengthy records or wannabe thugs.

    I have yet to see one officer related shooting where the person that is shot dead is a model citizen. Not one!

    Hell yeah Officer Norman would be hated where Officer Stalien patrols. That cop is white. That officer would’ve been shot dead already if he tried to do Officer Stalien’s patrol. Everything you said is pseudo-intellectual liberal psycho babble nonsense.

    Black Lives Matter doesn’t make sense. What it should be is the Thug Lives Matter movement. Criminal thugs - getting gunned down for thug actions. Unarmed non-compliant thugs have been getting killed. That’s what the reality is!

    Total BS! Compliant thugs aren’t getting killed. I have yet to see a single compliant thug getting unjustifiably killed. It just happens that there is a deep seeded thug culture in the African American community. That is the root of the problem.

    BLM is nothing but a terrorist gang. MLK would absolutely appalled by the actions of BLM. Thugs portrayed as "victims." MLK sacrificed his life to show America that the blacks were just looking for a chance to be hard working, law abiding, model citizen, contributing members of society. All of his work has been crumbling down now that thugs and race pimps now represent Black America. MLK is crying from heaven.

    Legitimate research! 238 Whites killed by Police this year to 123 Black people killed! Fact! Why isn’t there a White Lives Matter movement? I’ll answer that. Because white Americans are smart enough to recognize that the actions of the white people who were killed by cops is what led to officers killing them. Imagine a white lives matter movement? The BLM movement is the neo nazi movement with black skin.  

    Blacks hate cops because they believe in the thug life. Cops represent being a model citizen, honor, sacrifice, law and order. Thug life is the opposite of that. They believe in lawlessness and rebuke authority. That’s why they hate cops.

    BLM is protesting for criminal thugs and thug like behavior not for some noble and just cause like the MLK movement. What cops need to do is stop going to black neighborhoods - PERIOD!  Let the thug neighborhoods police themselves and throw the samuelsosa’s and the scalabrine’s of the psycho liberal world in that community as well with no police presence, just to see how long they live without cops keeping the thugs that they adore and defend at bay.

    Really - police state? Only the thugs are dying. When model citizens start dying, then you’ll have a point. You liberals are funny. Two of my heroes are BLACK police officers David Clarke and Jay Stalien! Both believe the BLM is garbage. I stand with them. I know scalabrine. That's racist, and I'm a racist for standing with those two BLACK officers!

    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Samuelsosa - What a load of crap. Pure fiction! You live in a fantasy world. Cops get paid jack squat for what they do. Wake up every day with the threat of dying 12+ hours a day - 5 days a week + overtime, on-call vacation, and on-call holidays, on the job 24/7. Yeah - such a glamorous job. Being a cop is a job of sacrifice! It is a volunteer job, just like being a soldier.

    Stop the BS false narrative of 108 unarmed black men were killed by police. What was the totality of the circumstances in each of those deaths? How many of those shootings were found to be justifiable? I'm guessing - all of them were found to be justifiable!

    Let me guess what happened in those cases - the black men were fighting or resisting or reaching for the officer’s weapon or made a motion that implied the suspect had a weapon and of course all were likely wearing the uniform of a thug also. Were any of the unarmed blacks educated, hard working, law abiding, model citizen, contributing members of society? I’ll answer that for you. NOPE! I bet they were thugs with lengthy records or wannabe thugs.

    I have yet to see one officer related shooting where the person that is shot dead is a model citizen. Not one!

    Hell yeah Officer Norman would be hated where Officer Stalien patrols. That cop is white. That officer would’ve been shot dead already if he tried to do Officer Stalien’s patrol. Everything you said is pseudo-intellectual liberal psycho babble nonsense.

    Black Lives Matter doesn’t make sense. What it should be is the Thug Lives Matter movement. Criminal thugs - getting gunned down for thug actions. Unarmed non-compliant thugs have been getting killed. That’s what the reality is!

    Total BS! Compliant thugs aren’t getting killed. I have yet to see a single compliant thug getting unjustifiably killed. It just happens that there is a deep seeded thug culture in the African American community. That is the root of the problem.

    BLM is nothing but a terrorist gang. MLK would absolutely appalled by the actions of BLM. Thugs portrayed as "victims." MLK sacrificed his life to show America that the blacks were just looking for a chance to be hard working, law abiding, model citizen, contributing members of society. All of his work has been crumbling down now that thugs and race pimps now represent Black America. MLK is crying from heaven.

    Legitimate research! 238 Whites killed by Police this year to 123 Black people killed! Fact! Why isn’t there a White Lives Matter movement? I’ll answer that. Because white Americans are smart enough to recognize that the actions of the white people who were killed by cops is what led to officers killing them. Imagine a white lives matter movement? The BLM movement is the neo nazi movement with black skin.  

    Blacks hate cops because they believe in the thug life. Cops represent being a model citizen, honor, sacrifice, law and order. Thug life is the opposite of that. They believe in lawlessness and rebuke authority. That’s why they hate cops.

    BLM is protesting for criminal thugs and thug like behavior not for some noble and just cause like the MLK movement. What cops need to do is stop going to black neighborhoods - PERIOD!  Let the thug neighborhoods police themselves and throw the samuelsosa’s and the scalabrine’s of the psycho liberal world in that community as well with no police presence, just to see how long they live without cops keeping the thugs that they adore and defend at bay.

    Really - police state? Only the thugs are dying. When model citizens start dying, then you’ll have a point. You liberals are funny. Two of my heroes are BLACK police officers David Clarke and Jay Stalien! Both believe the BLM is garbage. I stand with them. I know scalabrine. That's racist, and I'm a racist for standing with those two BLACK officers!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/10/falcon-heights-philando-castile-shooting-update-radio-dispatch-and-dash-cams/

    Philando Castile was a CRIPS gang member.

    The officer that killed the thug was Hispanic not white by the way.
    The reason Castile was pulled over was because he matched the description of an armed robbery suspect that happened to be black not because he was black. We haven't even seen the dash-cam or body-cam video yet. That will reveal the truth.

    What are you talking about, due-process? What happened wasn’t a legal proceeding. What happened was the use of deadly force by an officer. Did you know that police officers are granted legal authority to use deadly force set forth and defined by common law, statute, and case law?

    Police officer's are granted legal authority to use deadly force when apprehending someone reasonably believed to have committed a felony, when there is reasonable assumption of a threat to life, threat to innocent bystanders, and for self-defense and the defense of others.

    Castile was shot multiple times for not listening to the officer’s demands not to go for his weapon.

    Sterling was a felon, sex offender, and bloods gang member that resisted arrest while trying to reach for an illegal firearm. The thug’s intent was to shoot the officer with the gun. The officer warned him. He resisted and was tased twice. The officers tried to gain control of the suspect but were being outmuscled. The thug was reaching for his gun to use on the officers and the officers responded with lethal force. Police officers have a right, and a duty, to stop the attempted murder before it is completed. Had officers waited until Sterling had a gun pointed at them, then there would have been no way for them to stop him from shooting. Police officers do not, and should not, and are under no obligation - to have to wait until after somebody has attempted to murder them before they can act. Officers followed the Use of Force Continuum and the Totality of the Circumstances Standard. The officers did what they were trained to do.

    Black Lives Matter is a domestic terrorist organization. According to the FBI: “Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics: Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law; Appear intended (I) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. Or kidnapping; and Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S. The Black Lives Matter hate speeches, burnings, robberies, ransacking, shootings, the blocking of roads and highways, openly encouraging violence towards police, and the group incited the deaths of 9 officers. BLM fit the definition of a domestic terrorist organization/hate group perfectly.

    It’s never black construction workers, teachers, accountants, pilots, veterinarians, professors, technicians, computer specialists, engineers, machinists, coaches, miners, painters, electricians, farmers, fisherman, plumbers, dentists, mechanics, real estate agents, carpenters, pharmacists, doctors, nurses, lawyers, military personnel, correction officers, judges, welders, firemen, scientists etc… getting killed by cops. Not a single model citizen. It’s always thugs or wannabe thugs. THUG lives don’t matter!


    You don't understand due process
    who said Castile was a CRIPS gang member ?

    According to below article it's BS

    https://www.snopes.com/philando-castile-crips-member/

    You also stated  that BLM is a terrorist gang

    Do you have any evidence ?

    Which members of BLM committed terrorist acts ?

    what did they do ?




    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/10/falcon-heights-philando-castile-shooting-update-radio-dispatch-and-dash-cams/

    Philando Castile was a CRIPS gang member.

    The officer that killed the thug was Hispanic not white by the way.
    The reason Castile was pulled over was because he matched the description of an armed robbery suspect that happened to be black not because he was black. We haven't even seen the dash-cam or body-cam video yet. That will reveal the truth.

    What are you talking about, due-process? What happened wasn’t a legal proceeding. What happened was the use of deadly force by an officer. Did you know that police officers are granted legal authority to use deadly force set forth and defined by common law, statute, and case law?

    Police officer's are granted legal authority to use deadly force when apprehending someone reasonably believed to have committed a felony, when there is reasonable assumption of a threat to life, threat to innocent bystanders, and for self-defense and the defense of others.

    Castile was shot multiple times for not listening to the officer’s demands not to go for his weapon.

    Sterling was a felon, sex offender, and bloods gang member that resisted arrest while trying to reach for an illegal firearm. The thug’s intent was to shoot the officer with the gun. The officer warned him. He resisted and was tased twice. The officers tried to gain control of the suspect but were being outmuscled. The thug was reaching for his gun to use on the officers and the officers responded with lethal force. Police officers have a right, and a duty, to stop the attempted murder before it is completed. Had officers waited until Sterling had a gun pointed at them, then there would have been no way for them to stop him from shooting. Police officers do not, and should not, and are under no obligation - to have to wait until after somebody has attempted to murder them before they can act. Officers followed the Use of Force Continuum and the Totality of the Circumstances Standard. The officers did what they were trained to do.

    Black Lives Matter is a domestic terrorist organization. According to the FBI: “Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics: Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law; Appear intended (I) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. Or kidnapping; and Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S. The Black Lives Matter hate speeches, burnings, robberies, ransacking, shootings, the blocking of roads and highways, openly encouraging violence towards police, and the group incited the deaths of 9 officers. BLM fit the definition of a domestic terrorist organization/hate group perfectly.

    It’s never black construction workers, teachers, accountants, pilots, veterinarians, professors, technicians, computer specialists, engineers, machinists, coaches, miners, painters, electricians, farmers, fisherman, plumbers, dentists, mechanics, real estate agents, carpenters, pharmacists, doctors, nurses, lawyers, military personnel, correction officers, judges, welders, firemen, scientists etc… getting killed by cops. Not a single model citizen. It’s always thugs or wannabe thugs. THUG lives don’t matter!


    You don't understand due process
    who said Castile was a CRIPS gang member ?

    According to below article it's BS

    https://www.snopes.com/philando-castile-crips-member/

    You also stated  that BLM is a terrorist gang

    Do you have any evidence ?

    Which members of BLM committed terrorist acts ?

    what did they do ?




     
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    @MoneySRH

    I just checked FBI web site . I don't see BLM listed as a domestic terrorist organization/hate group.

    where do you get your news ? 

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    @MoneySRH

    I just checked FBI web site . I don't see BLM listed as a domestic terrorist organization/hate group.

    where do you get your news ? 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    You don't understand due process
    who said Castile was a CRIPS gang member ?

    According to below article it's BS

    https://www.snopes.com/philando-castile-crips-member/

    You also stated  that BLM is a terrorist gang

    Do you have any evidence ?

    Which members of BLM committed terrorist acts ?

    what did they do ?




    The "Day of Rage" is planned for tomorrow. Sounds pretty terrifying to me. 
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    You don't understand due process
    who said Castile was a CRIPS gang member ?

    According to below article it's BS

    https://www.snopes.com/philando-castile-crips-member/

    You also stated  that BLM is a terrorist gang

    Do you have any evidence ?

    Which members of BLM committed terrorist acts ?

    what did they do ?




    The "Day of Rage" is planned for tomorrow. Sounds pretty terrifying to me. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    The "Day of Rage" is planned for tomorrow. Sounds pretty terrifying to me. 

    Are you scared ? 

    You are foolish and spreading misinformation and lies 

    The hacktivist group Anonymous is now calling for nationwide Day of Rage protests on Friday, July 15th. The video below promotes the protests.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-13/be-aware-not-there-national-day-rage-july-15th-2016

    what does it have to do with BLM ?



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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    The "Day of Rage" is planned for tomorrow. Sounds pretty terrifying to me. 

    Are you scared ? 

    You are foolish and spreading misinformation and lies 

    The hacktivist group Anonymous is now calling for nationwide Day of Rage protests on Friday, July 15th. The video below promotes the protests.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-13/be-aware-not-there-national-day-rage-july-15th-2016

    what does it have to do with BLM ?



     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    Are you scared ? 

    You are foolish and spreading misinformation and lies 

    The hacktivist group Anonymous is now calling for nationwide Day of Rage protests on Friday, July 15th. The video below promotes the protests.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-13/be-aware-not-there-national-day-rage-july-15th-2016

    what does it have to do with BLM ?



    Not scared. Just sad that people would do this. 

    Keep being ignorant and think the BLM movement isnt gonna do something tomorrow. Already have planned "protests" in Ferguson and near the Arch..... Supposed to be non violent. Problem is, very few people are gonna have to miss work to attend.....

    Keep your head in the sand. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    Are you scared ? 

    You are foolish and spreading misinformation and lies 

    The hacktivist group Anonymous is now calling for nationwide Day of Rage protests on Friday, July 15th. The video below promotes the protests.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-13/be-aware-not-there-national-day-rage-july-15th-2016

    what does it have to do with BLM ?



    Not scared. Just sad that people would do this. 

    Keep being ignorant and think the BLM movement isnt gonna do something tomorrow. Already have planned "protests" in Ferguson and near the Arch..... Supposed to be non violent. Problem is, very few people are gonna have to miss work to attend.....

    Keep your head in the sand. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    You don't understand due process
    who said Castile was a CRIPS gang member ?

    According to below article it's BS

    https://www.snopes.com/philando-castile-crips-member/

    You also stated  that BLM is a terrorist gang

    Do you have any evidence ?

    Which members of BLM committed terrorist acts ?

    what did they do ?




    WE have a Malcolm X/Muslim terrorist named Hussein Obama as president of the United States that endorses the terrorist/hate organization and also the terror group (the Democratic National Committee) endorse the terror/hate group. Of course, BLM isn’t listed as a domestic terrorist organization/hate group… yet. That’s their voting base.

    Stanley Williams is the leader and founder of the Westside CRIPS. CRIPS members throw up the W as a sign of allegiance to Stanley Williams. Castile throws up the W in one picture to show his allegiance and respect to the leader and founder of the CRIPS.

    Castile is shown in another picture with a CRIP gang member in blue, also wearing a blue bandana, and Castile is in the center of the C gesture wearing green and wearing a blue hat. Green is the second color CRIPS claim after blue. And Castile is a member of a Facebook group called CRIPS. (The evidence is clearly obvious!)

    Evidence that the Black Lives Matter movement is a terror/hate group:

    1. Black lives matter is responsible for shutting down malls, airports, I-35, I-93, and I-94 and way too many roadways list.

    2. “It’s open season on killing whites and police officers and probably killing cops period. It’s open season. Picking them off. Today we live in a time when the white man will be picked off.“  - The Black Lives Matter radio show

    “You will see more executions of cops and whites. It’s about to go down, it’s open season on killing white people and guy.” - The Black Lives Matter radio show

    Black Lives Matter chant - “Pigs in a blanket, fry’em like bacon” (“Pigs in a blanket” refers to police officers in body bags.)

    Black Lives Matter chant - “What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want it? Now!”

    “Burn everything down,” “Shut this garbage down,” and “rise the fu*k up.” - Black Lives Matter

    3. https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/in-ferguson businesses-burn-police-cars-torched-as-violence much/article_47fc89b3-b0d2-5c41-a1fa-f4636673aac0.html

    https://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/08/10/looters-hit-ferguson-in-wake of-police-shooting/

    4. Police officers Joseph Cameron Ponder, Wenjian Liu, Rafael Ramos, William Kennard, Brent Thompson, Patrick Zamarripa, Michael Krol, Michael Smith, Lorne Ahrens are all dead because of Black Lives Matter.  

    5. Black Lives Matter meets the three FBI characteristics to be considered a domestic terrorist organization and meets the FBI criteria to be labeled an official hate group.

    #TRUTH

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    You don't understand due process
    who said Castile was a CRIPS gang member ?

    According to below article it's BS

    https://www.snopes.com/philando-castile-crips-member/

    You also stated  that BLM is a terrorist gang

    Do you have any evidence ?

    Which members of BLM committed terrorist acts ?

    what did they do ?




    WE have a Malcolm X/Muslim terrorist named Hussein Obama as president of the United States that endorses the terrorist/hate organization and also the terror group (the Democratic National Committee) endorse the terror/hate group. Of course, BLM isn’t listed as a domestic terrorist organization/hate group… yet. That’s their voting base.

    Stanley Williams is the leader and founder of the Westside CRIPS. CRIPS members throw up the W as a sign of allegiance to Stanley Williams. Castile throws up the W in one picture to show his allegiance and respect to the leader and founder of the CRIPS.

    Castile is shown in another picture with a CRIP gang member in blue, also wearing a blue bandana, and Castile is in the center of the C gesture wearing green and wearing a blue hat. Green is the second color CRIPS claim after blue. And Castile is a member of a Facebook group called CRIPS. (The evidence is clearly obvious!)

    Evidence that the Black Lives Matter movement is a terror/hate group:

    1. Black lives matter is responsible for shutting down malls, airports, I-35, I-93, and I-94 and way too many roadways list.

    2. “It’s open season on killing whites and police officers and probably killing cops period. It’s open season. Picking them off. Today we live in a time when the white man will be picked off.“  - The Black Lives Matter radio show

    “You will see more executions of cops and whites. It’s about to go down, it’s open season on killing white people and guy.” - The Black Lives Matter radio show

    Black Lives Matter chant - “Pigs in a blanket, fry’em like bacon” (“Pigs in a blanket” refers to police officers in body bags.)

    Black Lives Matter chant - “What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want it? Now!”

    “Burn everything down,” “Shut this garbage down,” and “rise the fu*k up.” - Black Lives Matter

    3. https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/in-ferguson businesses-burn-police-cars-torched-as-violence much/article_47fc89b3-b0d2-5c41-a1fa-f4636673aac0.html

    https://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/08/10/looters-hit-ferguson-in-wake of-police-shooting/

    4. Police officers Joseph Cameron Ponder, Wenjian Liu, Rafael Ramos, William Kennard, Brent Thompson, Patrick Zamarripa, Michael Krol, Michael Smith, Lorne Ahrens are all dead because of Black Lives Matter.  

    5. Black Lives Matter meets the three FBI characteristics to be considered a domestic terrorist organization and meets the FBI criteria to be labeled an official hate group.

    #TRUTH

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    WE have a Malcolm X/Muslim terrorist named Hussein Obama as president of the United States that endorses the terrorist/hate organization and also the terror group (the Democratic National Committee) endorse the terror/hate group. Of course, BLM isn’t listed as a domestic terrorist organization/hate group… yet. That’s their voting base.


    Stanley Williams is the leader and founder of the Westside CRIPS. CRIPS members throw up the W as a sign of allegiance to Stanley Williams. Castile throws up the W in one picture to show his allegiance and respect to the leader and founder of the CRIPS.

    Castile is shown in another picture with a CRIP gang member in blue, also wearing a blue bandana, and Castile is in the center of the C gesture wearing green and wearing a blue hat. Green is the second color CRIPS claim after blue. And Castile is a member of a Facebook group called CRIPS. (The evidence is clearly obvious!)

    Evidence that the Black Lives Matter movement is a terror/hate group:

    1. Black lives matter is responsible for shutting down malls, airports, I-35, I-93, and I-94 and way too many roadways list.

    2. “It’s open season on killing whites and police officers and probably killing cops period. It’s open season. Picking them off. Today we live in a time when the white man will be picked off.“  - The Black Lives Matter radio show

    “You will see more executions of cops and whites. It’s about to go down, it’s open season on killing white people and guy.” - The Black Lives Matter radio show

    Black Lives Matter chant - “Pigs in a blanket, fry’em like bacon” (“Pigs in a blanket” refers to police officers in body bags.)

    Black Lives Matter chant - “What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want it? Now!”

    “Burn everything down,” “Shut this garbage down,” and “rise the fu*k up.” - Black Lives Matter

    3. https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/in-ferguson businesses-burn-police-cars-torched-as-violence much/article_47fc89b3-b0d2-5c41-a1fa-f4636673aac0.html

    https://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/08/10/looters-hit-ferguson-in-wake of-police-shooting/

    4. Police officers Joseph Cameron Ponder, Wenjian Liu, Rafael Ramos, William Kennard, Brent Thompson, Patrick Zamarripa, Michael Krol, Michael Smith, Lorne Ahrens are all dead because of Black Lives Matter.  

    5. Black Lives Matter meets the three FBI characteristics to be considered a domestic terrorist organization and meets the FBI criteria to be labeled an official hate group.

    #TRUTH


    You're not the FBI  nor did you answer the questions ?

    Here is the FBI domestic terrirism link 

    https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/dt



    BLM on this site stands for Bureau of Land Management

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    WE have a Malcolm X/Muslim terrorist named Hussein Obama as president of the United States that endorses the terrorist/hate organization and also the terror group (the Democratic National Committee) endorse the terror/hate group. Of course, BLM isn’t listed as a domestic terrorist organization/hate group… yet. That’s their voting base.


    Stanley Williams is the leader and founder of the Westside CRIPS. CRIPS members throw up the W as a sign of allegiance to Stanley Williams. Castile throws up the W in one picture to show his allegiance and respect to the leader and founder of the CRIPS.

    Castile is shown in another picture with a CRIP gang member in blue, also wearing a blue bandana, and Castile is in the center of the C gesture wearing green and wearing a blue hat. Green is the second color CRIPS claim after blue. And Castile is a member of a Facebook group called CRIPS. (The evidence is clearly obvious!)

    Evidence that the Black Lives Matter movement is a terror/hate group:

    1. Black lives matter is responsible for shutting down malls, airports, I-35, I-93, and I-94 and way too many roadways list.

    2. “It’s open season on killing whites and police officers and probably killing cops period. It’s open season. Picking them off. Today we live in a time when the white man will be picked off.“  - The Black Lives Matter radio show

    “You will see more executions of cops and whites. It’s about to go down, it’s open season on killing white people and guy.” - The Black Lives Matter radio show

    Black Lives Matter chant - “Pigs in a blanket, fry’em like bacon” (“Pigs in a blanket” refers to police officers in body bags.)

    Black Lives Matter chant - “What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want it? Now!”

    “Burn everything down,” “Shut this garbage down,” and “rise the fu*k up.” - Black Lives Matter

    3. https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/in-ferguson businesses-burn-police-cars-torched-as-violence much/article_47fc89b3-b0d2-5c41-a1fa-f4636673aac0.html

    https://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/08/10/looters-hit-ferguson-in-wake of-police-shooting/

    4. Police officers Joseph Cameron Ponder, Wenjian Liu, Rafael Ramos, William Kennard, Brent Thompson, Patrick Zamarripa, Michael Krol, Michael Smith, Lorne Ahrens are all dead because of Black Lives Matter.  

    5. Black Lives Matter meets the three FBI characteristics to be considered a domestic terrorist organization and meets the FBI criteria to be labeled an official hate group.

    #TRUTH


    You're not the FBI  nor did you answer the questions ?

    Here is the FBI domestic terrirism link 

    https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/dt



    BLM on this site stands for Bureau of Land Management

     
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    According to covers Alaskan Crab Fisherman are heroes because they risk their lives to provide for their families. even though the pay is great, they don't work nearly as much as most people, and they decided by themselves, that is a profession, albeit dangerous, that they would like to do.

    According to covers Black Lives Matter movement is a terrorist gang

    According to covers Blacks should be protesting gang murders.

    Because a cop killing an unarmed man, and a gang member killing someone is that same 

    According to covers all 108 unarmed black men that were killed in 2015,were justified

    Unarmed.

    Unarmed

    Unarmed

    All 108 reached for the officers gun right?

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    According to covers Alaskan Crab Fisherman are heroes because they risk their lives to provide for their families. even though the pay is great, they don't work nearly as much as most people, and they decided by themselves, that is a profession, albeit dangerous, that they would like to do.

    According to covers Black Lives Matter movement is a terrorist gang

    According to covers Blacks should be protesting gang murders.

    Because a cop killing an unarmed man, and a gang member killing someone is that same 

    According to covers all 108 unarmed black men that were killed in 2015,were justified

    Unarmed.

    Unarmed

    Unarmed

    All 108 reached for the officers gun right?

    COVERS BABY, ITS FAAAANNNNNTASTTTICCCC

     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2016 - 6:58 PM ET #40


    Bunch of morons everywhere.....citizens & cops.....

    Sometimes the 2 collide. Sometimes its black & white....

    Not everything and everyone is racist.....





    Its simply not possible. Not sure why people cant understand that.
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    Bunch of morons everywhere.....citizens & cops.....

    Sometimes the 2 collide. Sometimes its black & white....

    Not everything and everyone is racist.....





    Its simply not possible. Not sure why people cant understand that.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2016 - 7:16 PM ET #41

    This is great video. Now I don't agree with doing this. I wouldn't do it for obvious reasons in America today.

    But this is a good cop. He keeps his cool. He doesn't feel threatened at the mere presence of a black man, like too many cops do today.

    Also I think and hope we may start to see more cops like this guy. Who likely realize that if they are selfish in taking an unarmed mans life, theres a great chance that an innocent officer wont go home to his family possibly in his own PD, or possibly in a state thousands of miles away.

    Kudos to this cop.

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    This is great video. Now I don't agree with doing this. I wouldn't do it for obvious reasons in America today.

    But this is a good cop. He keeps his cool. He doesn't feel threatened at the mere presence of a black man, like too many cops do today.

    Also I think and hope we may start to see more cops like this guy. Who likely realize that if they are selfish in taking an unarmed mans life, theres a great chance that an innocent officer wont go home to his family possibly in his own PD, or possibly in a state thousands of miles away.

    Kudos to this cop.

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2016 - 7:16 PM ET #42

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLj7vgU96t4
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