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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 7:54 PM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by tlml1899:

    I see why you guys are mad but damn .........you bet on WWE and thought everything was going to be fair . I mean this shit is scripted remember ?

    i agree the shit is corney.

    but all miz backers thought they won. and they graded it as a loss. thats just not right....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlml1899:

    I see why you guys are mad but damn .........you bet on WWE and thought everything was going to be fair . I mean this shit is scripted remember ?

    i agree the shit is corney.

    but all miz backers thought they won. and they graded it as a loss. thats just not right....

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 7:54 PM ET #77

    They also likely stated Official WWE results will be used.

    5dimes stated that what comes out of the announcers mouth is what happens. They announced double countout did they not? What if they announced the double c.o. and then the rock came out and said, this match is actually not over, and will be continued in 2 weeks on raw or something. Is 5 dimes supposed to wait for 2weeks with pending tickets for the ring announcer to announce another decision? No. I think they handled this amazingly as per the rules. That customer service is fucking horrible though. I dont understand how you didnt punch tony through your computer

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    They also likely stated Official WWE results will be used.

    5dimes stated that what comes out of the announcers mouth is what happens. They announced double countout did they not? What if they announced the double c.o. and then the rock came out and said, this match is actually not over, and will be continued in 2 weeks on raw or something. Is 5 dimes supposed to wait for 2weeks with pending tickets for the ring announcer to announce another decision? No. I think they handled this amazingly as per the rules. That customer service is fucking horrible though. I dont understand how you didnt punch tony through your computer

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 7:55 PM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

    Did they open Miz at +1000..?



    Don't know to be honest. I do believe that the Miz was the dog on all sites available though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

    Did they open Miz at +1000..?



    Don't know to be honest. I do believe that the Miz was the dog on all sites available though.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 7:56 PM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocafella:


    sarcasm.

    the way he said it... just seemed like someone had alot of money on other people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocafella:


    sarcasm.

    the way he said it... just seemed like someone had alot of money on other people.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 7:56 PM ET #80

    Regardless if tony was getting swamped with the same shit all day, and even if the customers got irate, he is supposed to keep his cool. What a moron he is. 5 dimes should lose customers based on that.
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    Regardless if tony was getting swamped with the same shit all day, and even if the customers got irate, he is supposed to keep his cool. What a moron he is. 5 dimes should lose customers based on that.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 7:56 PM ET #81

    for future posters.

    who cares what they bet on.

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    for future posters.

    who cares what they bet on.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 7:56 PM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant:



    Man, we are really splitting hairs here. If Lawler was still viewed as the winner, why shouldn't the double countout still be the same?


    The Lawler grading is also incorrect. All other sportsbooks graded Lawler as a loss, as it should have been.

    Giant, I'm not understanding the discrepancy of the grading. Official results are posted and they're very easy to interpret. Every book except 5dimes got them correct. There really isn't a gray area that can give them the benefit of the doubt. They offered a prop that they had no clue how to handle. Someone other than Tony graded the wagers incorrectly. Rather than do some work and FIX the problem, they act as if it doesn't exist.

    Clear results, clear winners. Although it's a unique offering, it isn't one that leaves room for interpretation. Do you see where I'm coming from? The grading of this particular event is the least of my worries. How I'm going to get the rest of my money out without a hitch will be interesting, not to mention the "sister" accounts I use to get large amounts down on boxing matches that I'm capped on..
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant:



    Man, we are really splitting hairs here. If Lawler was still viewed as the winner, why shouldn't the double countout still be the same?


    The Lawler grading is also incorrect. All other sportsbooks graded Lawler as a loss, as it should have been.

    Giant, I'm not understanding the discrepancy of the grading. Official results are posted and they're very easy to interpret. Every book except 5dimes got them correct. There really isn't a gray area that can give them the benefit of the doubt. They offered a prop that they had no clue how to handle. Someone other than Tony graded the wagers incorrectly. Rather than do some work and FIX the problem, they act as if it doesn't exist.

    Clear results, clear winners. Although it's a unique offering, it isn't one that leaves room for interpretation. Do you see where I'm coming from? The grading of this particular event is the least of my worries. How I'm going to get the rest of my money out without a hitch will be interesting, not to mention the "sister" accounts I use to get large amounts down on boxing matches that I'm capped on..
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 7:57 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by claude_gir0ux:

    i agree the shit is corney.

    but all miz backers thought they won. and they graded it as a loss. thats just not right....

    I thought that it was a push?

    Kapono, was "Draw" an option...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by claude_gir0ux:

    i agree the shit is corney.

    but all miz backers thought they won. and they graded it as a loss. thats just not right....

    I thought that it was a push?

    Kapono, was "Draw" an option...?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 7:57 PM ET #84

    Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

    They also likely stated Official WWE results will be used.

    5dimes stated that what comes out of the announcers mouth is what happens. They announced double countout did they not? What if they announced the double c.o. and then the rock came out and said, this match is actually not over, and will be continued in 2 weeks on raw or something. Is 5 dimes supposed to wait for 2weeks with pending tickets for the ring announcer to announce another decision? No. I think they handled this amazingly as per the rules. That customer service is fucking horrible though. I dont understand how you didnt punch tony through your computer



    5dimes said that it is what comes out of the announcer's mouth at the END of the match. The match did not end until Miz was announced as the winner to close the show.

    I was trying not to lose my cool or anything. I didn't think spitting back expletives at him would do anything to help the situation to be honest and I like 5dimes so I wouldn't want to piss off the main guy and get my account closed or something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

    They also likely stated Official WWE results will be used.

    5dimes stated that what comes out of the announcers mouth is what happens. They announced double countout did they not? What if they announced the double c.o. and then the rock came out and said, this match is actually not over, and will be continued in 2 weeks on raw or something. Is 5 dimes supposed to wait for 2weeks with pending tickets for the ring announcer to announce another decision? No. I think they handled this amazingly as per the rules. That customer service is fucking horrible though. I dont understand how you didnt punch tony through your computer



    5dimes said that it is what comes out of the announcer's mouth at the END of the match. The match did not end until Miz was announced as the winner to close the show.

    I was trying not to lose my cool or anything. I didn't think spitting back expletives at him would do anything to help the situation to be honest and I like 5dimes so I wouldn't want to piss off the main guy and get my account closed or something.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 7:58 PM ET #85

    Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

    They also likely stated Official WWE results will be used.

    5dimes stated that what comes out of the announcers mouth is what happens. They announced double countout did they not? What if they announced the double c.o. and then the rock came out and said, this match is actually not over, and will be continued in 2 weeks on raw or something. Is 5 dimes supposed to wait for 2weeks with pending tickets for the ring announcer to announce another decision? No. I think they handled this amazingly as per the rules. That customer service is fucking horrible though. I dont understand how you didnt punch tony through your computer



    What the fuck are you talking about? The match was continued SECONDS later. There was no mention of Raw or a delayed result. Stop it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

    They also likely stated Official WWE results will be used.

    5dimes stated that what comes out of the announcers mouth is what happens. They announced double countout did they not? What if they announced the double c.o. and then the rock came out and said, this match is actually not over, and will be continued in 2 weeks on raw or something. Is 5 dimes supposed to wait for 2weeks with pending tickets for the ring announcer to announce another decision? No. I think they handled this amazingly as per the rules. That customer service is fucking horrible though. I dont understand how you didnt punch tony through your computer



    What the fuck are you talking about? The match was continued SECONDS later. There was no mention of Raw or a delayed result. Stop it.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 7:58 PM ET #86

    Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

    I thought that it was a push?

    Kapono, was "Draw" an option...?



    Nope, no "draw" option available. Only "Miz" or "Cena".

    It was graded as "canceled", not as "pushed"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

    I thought that it was a push?

    Kapono, was "Draw" an option...?



    Nope, no "draw" option available. Only "Miz" or "Cena".

    It was graded as "canceled", not as "pushed"
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 7:59 PM ET #87

     Just trying to say that even though I may be siding with them on the grading part, they are lowlife scum with the customer service and I agree that he was a dickhead. I never curse during live chat either, my brother does, that helps nothing at all and could only hurt you.
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     Just trying to say that even though I may be siding with them on the grading part, they are lowlife scum with the customer service and I agree that he was a dickhead. I never curse during live chat either, my brother does, that helps nothing at all and could only hurt you.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 8:00 PM ET #88

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    5dimes said that it is what comes out of the announcer's mouth at the END of the match. The match did not end until Miz was announced as the winner to close the show.

    I was trying not to lose my cool or anything. I didn't think spitting back expletives at him would do anything to help the situation to be honest and I like 5dimes so I wouldn't want to piss off the main guy and get my account closed or something.


    Did you call them or live chat..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    5dimes said that it is what comes out of the announcer's mouth at the END of the match. The match did not end until Miz was announced as the winner to close the show.

    I was trying not to lose my cool or anything. I didn't think spitting back expletives at him would do anything to help the situation to be honest and I like 5dimes so I wouldn't want to piss off the main guy and get my account closed or something.


    Did you call them or live chat..?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 8:00 PM ET #89

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    Nope, no "draw" option available. Only "Miz" or "Cena".

    It was graded as "canceled", not as "pushed"

    Ok, so you didn't lose your initial wager then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    Nope, no "draw" option available. Only "Miz" or "Cena".

    It was graded as "canceled", not as "pushed"

    Ok, so you didn't lose your initial wager then...

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 8:02 PM ET #90

    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:



    What the fuck are you talking about? The match was continued SECONDS later. There was no mention of Raw or a delayed result. Stop it.
    You are trying to say that the match was never TECHNICALLY over, even though results were announced by the ring announcer. So now I ask you, if the rock came out jerked off for 45 mins then said THE MATCH IS NOT OVER [because lets jsut say this is what vince scripted] and the match will continue in 2 weeks. According to you and Kapono, the match isnt over [even though ring announcer said results] so 5 dimes is supposed to wait 2 weeks and have pending tickets and wait for something else to come out of the ring announcers mouth because the rules say at the end of the match? Those were sketch rules and tony interpreted it as the end of the match the first time the announcer spoke, even if he did wait 15 min to grade tickets. IM sorry I think it was handled the right way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:



    What the fuck are you talking about? The match was continued SECONDS later. There was no mention of Raw or a delayed result. Stop it.
    You are trying to say that the match was never TECHNICALLY over, even though results were announced by the ring announcer. So now I ask you, if the rock came out jerked off for 45 mins then said THE MATCH IS NOT OVER [because lets jsut say this is what vince scripted] and the match will continue in 2 weeks. According to you and Kapono, the match isnt over [even though ring announcer said results] so 5 dimes is supposed to wait 2 weeks and have pending tickets and wait for something else to come out of the ring announcers mouth because the rules say at the end of the match? Those were sketch rules and tony interpreted it as the end of the match the first time the announcer spoke, even if he did wait 15 min to grade tickets. IM sorry I think it was handled the right way.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 8:02 PM ET #91

    fuck 5 dimes though. Disgusting customer service ,NOT EVEN CS, but a nasty owner.
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    fuck 5 dimes though. Disgusting customer service ,NOT EVEN CS, but a nasty owner.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 8:03 PM ET #92

    Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

    Did you call them or live chat..?




    Live chatted. I was informed by CS that this was the only way to speak to Tony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

    Did you call them or live chat..?




    Live chatted. I was informed by CS that this was the only way to speak to Tony.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 8:05 PM ET #93

    Scary though. Having alot of money in 5 dimes, and then encountering a problem and then TONY comes to the rescue [hardly.] ?????????? Ouch. I wouldnt feel comfortable with having a bus token on 5dimes.
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    Scary though. Having alot of money in 5 dimes, and then encountering a problem and then TONY comes to the rescue [hardly.] ?????????? Ouch. I wouldnt feel comfortable with having a bus token on 5dimes.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:



    The Lawler grading is also incorrect. All other sportsbooks graded Lawler as a loss, as it should have been.

    Giant, I'm not understanding the discrepancy of the grading. Official results are posted and they're very easy to interpret. Every book except 5dimes got them correct. There really isn't a gray area that can give them the benefit of the doubt. They offered a prop that they had no clue how to handle. Someone other than Tony graded the wagers incorrectly. Rather than do some work and FIX the problem, they act as if it doesn't exist.

    Clear results, clear winners. Although it's a unique offering, it isn't one that leaves room for interpretation. Do you see where I'm coming from? The grading of this particular event is the least of my worries. How I'm going to get the rest of my money out without a hitch will be interesting, not to mention the "sister" accounts I use to get large amounts down on boxing matches that I'm capped on..


    I definitely see where you're coming from, and I certainly empathize with what you're going through. It sucks.  Just goes to show we are really at the mercy of the books.

    Just thinking about these matches is giving me a headache, and I had nothing at stake.  Good luck getting the rest of your money out, I doubt it will be a problem.




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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:



    The Lawler grading is also incorrect. All other sportsbooks graded Lawler as a loss, as it should have been.

    Giant, I'm not understanding the discrepancy of the grading. Official results are posted and they're very easy to interpret. Every book except 5dimes got them correct. There really isn't a gray area that can give them the benefit of the doubt. They offered a prop that they had no clue how to handle. Someone other than Tony graded the wagers incorrectly. Rather than do some work and FIX the problem, they act as if it doesn't exist.

    Clear results, clear winners. Although it's a unique offering, it isn't one that leaves room for interpretation. Do you see where I'm coming from? The grading of this particular event is the least of my worries. How I'm going to get the rest of my money out without a hitch will be interesting, not to mention the "sister" accounts I use to get large amounts down on boxing matches that I'm capped on..


    I definitely see where you're coming from, and I certainly empathize with what you're going through. It sucks.  Just goes to show we are really at the mercy of the books.

    Just thinking about these matches is giving me a headache, and I had nothing at stake.  Good luck getting the rest of your money out, I doubt it will be a problem.




     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 8:10 PM ET #95

    Yeah I'm giving serious consideration to pulling my money and never going back. I disagree with Tony's ruling, but fine, you're the boss, OK whatever.

    I don't appreciate the lack of customer service when I inquired about it. I wasn't rude or anything but was basically told "tough shit" despite the fact that from an objective profile, I'm the exact type of customer that 5dimes should be BEGGING to keep around.

    There are other books out there that I'm sure would love my business.
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    Yeah I'm giving serious consideration to pulling my money and never going back. I disagree with Tony's ruling, but fine, you're the boss, OK whatever.

    I don't appreciate the lack of customer service when I inquired about it. I wasn't rude or anything but was basically told "tough shit" despite the fact that from an objective profile, I'm the exact type of customer that 5dimes should be BEGGING to keep around.

    There are other books out there that I'm sure would love my business.
     
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    walk & kap -

    Sorry for your happenings with WWE & 5Dimes grading decision.  Tony's lack of customer service is sickening at best - and should have been handled 100% better.  His display is worthy of job loss (if there is somebody higher than him).

    I do have a question for you.  Why would you wager on anything that can be decided by judges?

    Never wager on the following:

    American Idol, politics (if you believe elections are legit, ), MMA, WWE, boxing - and anything else that is decided by judges.

     

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    walk & kap -

    Sorry for your happenings with WWE & 5Dimes grading decision.  Tony's lack of customer service is sickening at best - and should have been handled 100% better.  His display is worthy of job loss (if there is somebody higher than him).

    I do have a question for you.  Why would you wager on anything that can be decided by judges?

    Never wager on the following:

    American Idol, politics (if you believe elections are legit, ), MMA, WWE, boxing - and anything else that is decided by judges.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    Crow -- I believe Bodog and SIA did, both are reported to have graded Miz tickets as winners.


    u are getting fucked
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    Crow -- I believe Bodog and SIA did, both are reported to have graded Miz tickets as winners.


    u are getting fucked
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 9:44 PM ET #98

    Quote Originally Posted by atlheatholder:

    walk & kap -

    Sorry for your happenings with WWE & 5Dimes grading decision.  Tony's lack of customer service is sickening at best - and should have been handled 100% better.  His display is worthy of job loss (if there is somebody higher than him).

    I do have a question for you.  Why would you wager on anything that can be decided by judges?

    Never wager on the following:

    American Idol, politics (if you believe elections are legit, ), MMA, WWE, boxing - and anything else that is decided by judges.

     

    NFL, MLB, and especially NBA are heavily influenced by judges or Refs...

    WWE is scripted and doesn't have judges...

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    Quote Originally Posted by atlheatholder:

    walk & kap -

    Sorry for your happenings with WWE & 5Dimes grading decision.  Tony's lack of customer service is sickening at best - and should have been handled 100% better.  His display is worthy of job loss (if there is somebody higher than him).

    I do have a question for you.  Why would you wager on anything that can be decided by judges?

    Never wager on the following:

    American Idol, politics (if you believe elections are legit, ), MMA, WWE, boxing - and anything else that is decided by judges.

     

    NFL, MLB, and especially NBA are heavily influenced by judges or Refs...

    WWE is scripted and doesn't have judges...

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2011 - 10:09 PM ET #99

    Quote Originally Posted by Messier-11:

    5dimes is a great book. Betting on staged wrestling is asking for trouble though. I agree that you got screwed but like tony said.....don't  bet on this crap. Sorry bro, I thought they'd reverse the call for you.



    Listen. If 5Dimes wants to put lines up and get publicity of having lines on the WWE event... THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH CUSTOMER SERVICE.... it does not matter if it is staged nor does it matter who bets on it... Tony is an asshole and I have heard about him quite a bit before. Complete asshole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messier-11:

    5dimes is a great book. Betting on staged wrestling is asking for trouble though. I agree that you got screwed but like tony said.....don't  bet on this crap. Sorry bro, I thought they'd reverse the call for you.



    Listen. If 5Dimes wants to put lines up and get publicity of having lines on the WWE event... THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH CUSTOMER SERVICE.... it does not matter if it is staged nor does it matter who bets on it... Tony is an asshole and I have heard about him quite a bit before. Complete asshole.
     
     
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    "crawl back under the rock of the forum you came from" What does that even mean? Was that somekind of insult to you or to covers? Either way its a pretty lame insult. Did you claim posting on covers forums was somehow going to hurt their business? If so threats from a position of weakness rarely work out well. Dont mean to kick you when your down but you bet on wrastling you sort of deserved to be taken advantage of.  
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    "crawl back under the rock of the forum you came from" What does that even mean? Was that somekind of insult to you or to covers? Either way its a pretty lame insult. Did you claim posting on covers forums was somehow going to hurt their business? If so threats from a position of weakness rarely work out well. Dont mean to kick you when your down but you bet on wrastling you sort of deserved to be taken advantage of.  
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