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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2011 - 9:20 AM ET #251

    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:


    That was the grading rules used by 5dimes, as posted on their site prior to the match and given to me by a senior customer service rep. So no, I'm not citing the wrong rule.

    according to thier website that is the boxing/mma rule.... just saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:


    That was the grading rules used by 5dimes, as posted on their site prior to the match and given to me by a senior customer service rep. So no, I'm not citing the wrong rule.

    according to thier website that is the boxing/mma rule.... just saying

     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2011 - 9:48 AM ET #252

    Quote Originally Posted by sean2114:

    according to thier website that is the boxing/mma rule.... just saying



    sean is correct, that's where the rule is listed on their rules page. That being said, WTL was quoted this rule by 5dimes CS in one of his earlier chats that he posted, so he's not crazy for thinking its applicable and controlling
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    Quote Originally Posted by sean2114:

    according to thier website that is the boxing/mma rule.... just saying



    sean is correct, that's where the rule is listed on their rules page. That being said, WTL was quoted this rule by 5dimes CS in one of his earlier chats that he posted, so he's not crazy for thinking its applicable and controlling
     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2011 - 11:30 AM ET #253

    If this Tony prick tries to fuck me out of my over 2 turnbuckles eaten by George the Animal  Steel or my Cubs win the world series the next  3 years prop bet, there is going to be a big problem

    Cubsin08 strong like bull

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    If this Tony prick tries to fuck me out of my over 2 turnbuckles eaten by George the Animal  Steel or my Cubs win the world series the next  3 years prop bet, there is going to be a big problem

    Cubsin08 strong like bull

     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2011 - 1:06 PM ET #254

    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    oh really? so then the original match wasn't announced as a draw and then a second match never started? then how exactly are you claiming this miz character was declared the winner if a second match never took place?

    so what you guys are saying is that the original match should be thrown out and the book should act like it never happened and only count the restart match that followed giving you the win would this then be fair to the people that bet on the opponent? I mean after all someone has to lose right? 



    I think you're parsing what happened here Slovak when there is no need to do so. There was not "two matches", only one match. The results listed on any available website will show just that Miz def. Cena, not Miz and Cena Double CO and then Miz def. Cena in a "second" match.

    The match was originally announced by the ring announcer one way, it was restarted, and then at the end of the match (remember, same match at this point -- it was explicitly "re-started" and not a "re-match" or something along the lines), the ring announcer had Miz announced as the winner and at the end of the event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    oh really? so then the original match wasn't announced as a draw and then a second match never started? then how exactly are you claiming this miz character was declared the winner if a second match never took place?

    so what you guys are saying is that the original match should be thrown out and the book should act like it never happened and only count the restart match that followed giving you the win would this then be fair to the people that bet on the opponent? I mean after all someone has to lose right? 



    I think you're parsing what happened here Slovak when there is no need to do so. There was not "two matches", only one match. The results listed on any available website will show just that Miz def. Cena, not Miz and Cena Double CO and then Miz def. Cena in a "second" match.

    The match was originally announced by the ring announcer one way, it was restarted, and then at the end of the match (remember, same match at this point -- it was explicitly "re-started" and not a "re-match" or something along the lines), the ring announcer had Miz announced as the winner and at the end of the event.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2011 - 1:32 PM ET #255

    Quote Originally Posted by Messier-11:

    5dimes is a great book. Betting on staged wrestling is asking for trouble though. I agree that you got screwed but like tony said.....don't  bet on this crap. Sorry bro, I thought they'd reverse the call for you.
      I agree with everything except the last sentence.

    I think Tony made it pretty clear that he will never offer odds on WWE again.  He got tons of complaints about this and spent hours handling it.  How would you like to go to work at a business that you OWN, make a decision, then have people whine and bitch and moan about the decision for 2 weeks, then have 1/2 of the people ask you to change your mind and 1/2 of the people saying, "thanks!".  I don't blame him for being a little short fused.  Hell, I'm tired of hearing about this shit and I don't have a dog in the hunt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messier-11:

    5dimes is a great book. Betting on staged wrestling is asking for trouble though. I agree that you got screwed but like tony said.....don't  bet on this crap. Sorry bro, I thought they'd reverse the call for you.
      I agree with everything except the last sentence.

    I think Tony made it pretty clear that he will never offer odds on WWE again.  He got tons of complaints about this and spent hours handling it.  How would you like to go to work at a business that you OWN, make a decision, then have people whine and bitch and moan about the decision for 2 weeks, then have 1/2 of the people ask you to change your mind and 1/2 of the people saying, "thanks!".  I don't blame him for being a little short fused.  Hell, I'm tired of hearing about this shit and I don't have a dog in the hunt.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2011 - 1:39 PM ET #256

    Wendys -- I don't know though, I bet they offer odds on it again next year. You know why? Cause Tony admitted he took in "six figures" of handle on this event. By failing to pay out all Miz bets, I guarantee that he generated a profit on it.
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    Wendys -- I don't know though, I bet they offer odds on it again next year. You know why? Cause Tony admitted he took in "six figures" of handle on this event. By failing to pay out all Miz bets, I guarantee that he generated a profit on it.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2011 - 5:39 PM ET #257

    i never had an issue with them,  and i would never bet wwe or use the casino stick with the major sports
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    i never had an issue with them,  and i would never bet wwe or use the casino stick with the major sports
     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2011 - 6:38 PM ET #258

    I guarantee if walktheline had bet CENA and the match was initially ruled a double countout then restarted and ruled a MIZ victory, and recognized by WWE as a MIZ victory, but by 5dimes as a cancelled bet , WALKTHELNE would be  silent .and would be in love with tonys grading.
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    I guarantee if walktheline had bet CENA and the match was initially ruled a double countout then restarted and ruled a MIZ victory, and recognized by WWE as a MIZ victory, but by 5dimes as a cancelled bet , WALKTHELNE would be  silent .and would be in love with tonys grading.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 12:48 PM ET #259

    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:


    Get fucked, you moronic clown. You think this is just about this issue bitch? You're nothing. I beat the SOFTEST LINE EVER to death, which basically resulted in a max payout from 5dimes. 

    This chat is 100% real, moron. Did Tony ever dispute it? No. Why? Because that is verbatim, dipshit. 5dimes never talks to you like that because you are a book feeding fool. 

    I've made over 5k from 5dimes this month, and I'm well above "break even" during my time with them. Do you know the first thing you are talking about? Do you know about networking to get past the small limits on obscure props? Do you have a few people you work with to get down what you need to when the time comes?

    Read the rules, moron. Their criteria EXPLICITLY CONFIRM the validity of these wagers. Do you think we would have gotten paid if we weren't correct? C'mon man, you're speaking out of turn on a topic and a level you aren't familiar with. 

    Grow some balls? Really? Are you tough? Go troll somewhere else shitbag. I exploited a soft line as efficiently as any sharp winning bettor would. I"m shown the door because I've been shit storming their boxing lines for years. No more, no less. 

    Did Tony EVER dispute the verbiage in the chat? No. Why? Because it's verbatim. You can copy this out too... go crawl under the rock you came from because you're over your head on this topic. I throw dimes and represent an actual threat to some books. I'm a real gambler. You're a trolling box. Check your mouth next time..
    Just cause you call someone a "loser or moron" doesn't make you right. Should have learned that in the 3rd grade. I can tell by the way you conduct yourself that you have no idea what you are talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:


    Get fucked, you moronic clown. You think this is just about this issue bitch? You're nothing. I beat the SOFTEST LINE EVER to death, which basically resulted in a max payout from 5dimes. 

    This chat is 100% real, moron. Did Tony ever dispute it? No. Why? Because that is verbatim, dipshit. 5dimes never talks to you like that because you are a book feeding fool. 

    I've made over 5k from 5dimes this month, and I'm well above "break even" during my time with them. Do you know the first thing you are talking about? Do you know about networking to get past the small limits on obscure props? Do you have a few people you work with to get down what you need to when the time comes?

    Read the rules, moron. Their criteria EXPLICITLY CONFIRM the validity of these wagers. Do you think we would have gotten paid if we weren't correct? C'mon man, you're speaking out of turn on a topic and a level you aren't familiar with. 

    Grow some balls? Really? Are you tough? Go troll somewhere else shitbag. I exploited a soft line as efficiently as any sharp winning bettor would. I"m shown the door because I've been shit storming their boxing lines for years. No more, no less. 

    Did Tony EVER dispute the verbiage in the chat? No. Why? Because it's verbatim. You can copy this out too... go crawl under the rock you came from because you're over your head on this topic. I throw dimes and represent an actual threat to some books. I'm a real gambler. You're a trolling box. Check your mouth next time..
    Just cause you call someone a "loser or moron" doesn't make you right. Should have learned that in the 3rd grade. I can tell by the way you conduct yourself that you have no idea what you are talking about.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 12:50 PM ET #260

    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:


    Get fucked, you moronic clown. You think this is just about this issue bitch? You're nothing. I beat the SOFTEST LINE EVER to death, which basically resulted in a max payout from 5dimes. 

    This chat is 100% real, moron. Did Tony ever dispute it? No. Why? Because that is verbatim, dipshit. 5dimes never talks to you like that because you are a book feeding fool. 

    I've made over 5k from 5dimes this month, and I'm well above "break even" during my time with them. Do you know the first thing you are talking about? Do you know about networking to get past the small limits on obscure props? Do you have a few people you work with to get down what you need to when the time comes?

    Read the rules, moron. Their criteria EXPLICITLY CONFIRM the validity of these wagers. Do you think we would have gotten paid if we weren't correct? C'mon man, you're speaking out of turn on a topic and a level you aren't familiar with. 

    Grow some balls? Really? Are you tough? Go troll somewhere else shitbag. I exploited a soft line as efficiently as any sharp winning bettor would. I"m shown the door because I've been shit storming their boxing lines for years. No more, no less. 

    Did Tony EVER dispute the verbiage in the chat? No. Why? Because it's verbatim. You can copy this out too... go crawl under the rock you came from because you're over your head on this topic. I throw dimes and represent an actual threat to some books. I'm a real gambler. You're a trolling box. Check your mouth next time..
    So which is it did you make 5k or are you well above breaking even? why would you mention your above breaking even if you make so much money? I can see through your lieing WWE betting rookie ass
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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:


    Get fucked, you moronic clown. You think this is just about this issue bitch? You're nothing. I beat the SOFTEST LINE EVER to death, which basically resulted in a max payout from 5dimes. 

    This chat is 100% real, moron. Did Tony ever dispute it? No. Why? Because that is verbatim, dipshit. 5dimes never talks to you like that because you are a book feeding fool. 

    I've made over 5k from 5dimes this month, and I'm well above "break even" during my time with them. Do you know the first thing you are talking about? Do you know about networking to get past the small limits on obscure props? Do you have a few people you work with to get down what you need to when the time comes?

    Read the rules, moron. Their criteria EXPLICITLY CONFIRM the validity of these wagers. Do you think we would have gotten paid if we weren't correct? C'mon man, you're speaking out of turn on a topic and a level you aren't familiar with. 

    Grow some balls? Really? Are you tough? Go troll somewhere else shitbag. I exploited a soft line as efficiently as any sharp winning bettor would. I"m shown the door because I've been shit storming their boxing lines for years. No more, no less. 

    Did Tony EVER dispute the verbiage in the chat? No. Why? Because it's verbatim. You can copy this out too... go crawl under the rock you came from because you're over your head on this topic. I throw dimes and represent an actual threat to some books. I'm a real gambler. You're a trolling box. Check your mouth next time..
    So which is it did you make 5k or are you well above breaking even? why would you mention your above breaking even if you make so much money? I can see through your lieing WWE betting rookie ass
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 4:03 PM ET #261

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk_You:

    So which is it did you make 5k or are you well above breaking even? why would you mention your above breaking even if you make so much money? I can see through your lieing WWE betting rookie ass


    Don't you remember calling me a "loser" that never wins? You know, when you said that we are nothing but degenerate losing clowns?

    This is a fake chat.... 5dimes has never talked to me like that and has always been polite. You can't handle ur canceled wager not being a win, boo freaking who. Your stating that it should be a win because WWE website says so. THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY GO BY FOR RULING A WIN LOSS OR TIE. HE HAS SAID THAT OVER AND OVER TO YOU AND YOU JUST CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT.  Your lucky he talked to your rookie WWE betting ass in the 1st place. Grow some 

    Once again, get fucked. I'm done talking about the subject, as I've been paid (yeah, it was 5k payout) and moved on. 

    For any of the retards that laugh at someone betting on an outcome you were 100% sure of, you shouldn't place another wager. The point is to have an edge. I found a 100% guaranteed winner. When was the last time YOU have done so? 


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk_You:

    So which is it did you make 5k or are you well above breaking even? why would you mention your above breaking even if you make so much money? I can see through your lieing WWE betting rookie ass


    Don't you remember calling me a "loser" that never wins? You know, when you said that we are nothing but degenerate losing clowns?

    This is a fake chat.... 5dimes has never talked to me like that and has always been polite. You can't handle ur canceled wager not being a win, boo freaking who. Your stating that it should be a win because WWE website says so. THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY GO BY FOR RULING A WIN LOSS OR TIE. HE HAS SAID THAT OVER AND OVER TO YOU AND YOU JUST CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT.  Your lucky he talked to your rookie WWE betting ass in the 1st place. Grow some 

    Once again, get fucked. I'm done talking about the subject, as I've been paid (yeah, it was 5k payout) and moved on. 

    For any of the retards that laugh at someone betting on an outcome you were 100% sure of, you shouldn't place another wager. The point is to have an edge. I found a 100% guaranteed winner. When was the last time YOU have done so? 


     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 4:10 PM ET #262

    Fuck this clown Walk

    We got some good boxing tonight
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    Fuck this clown Walk

    We got some good boxing tonight
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 5:10 PM ET #263

    OK went and read most of all these fckn posts. Internet gambling is risky and has downfalls. If you do not like it stop gambling or move to Nevada and put up with the -110 vig!!!!   Here is the real question.....

    What the hell does "Rock of a Forum" mean that is the title to this awful thread can anyone answer that or what???   
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    OK went and read most of all these fckn posts. Internet gambling is risky and has downfalls. If you do not like it stop gambling or move to Nevada and put up with the -110 vig!!!!   Here is the real question.....

    What the hell does "Rock of a Forum" mean that is the title to this awful thread can anyone answer that or what???   
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 5:27 PM ET #264

    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:



    Don't you remember calling me a "loser" that never wins? You know, when you said that we are nothing but degenerate losing clowns?

    This is a fake chat.... 5dimes has never talked to me like that and has always been polite. You can't handle ur canceled wager not being a win, boo freaking who. Your stating that it should be a win because WWE website says so. THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY GO BY FOR RULING A WIN LOSS OR TIE. HE HAS SAID THAT OVER AND OVER TO YOU AND YOU JUST CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT.  Your lucky he talked to your rookie WWE betting ass in the 1st place. Grow some 

    Once again, get fucked. I'm done talking about the subject, as I've been paid (yeah, it was 5k payout) and moved on. 

    For any of the retards that laugh at someone betting on an outcome you were 100% sure of, you shouldn't place another wager. The point is to have an edge. I found a 100% guaranteed winner. When was the last time YOU have done so? 


    I never called you a loser that never wins. A liar yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:



    Don't you remember calling me a "loser" that never wins? You know, when you said that we are nothing but degenerate losing clowns?

    This is a fake chat.... 5dimes has never talked to me like that and has always been polite. You can't handle ur canceled wager not being a win, boo freaking who. Your stating that it should be a win because WWE website says so. THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY GO BY FOR RULING A WIN LOSS OR TIE. HE HAS SAID THAT OVER AND OVER TO YOU AND YOU JUST CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT.  Your lucky he talked to your rookie WWE betting ass in the 1st place. Grow some 

    Once again, get fucked. I'm done talking about the subject, as I've been paid (yeah, it was 5k payout) and moved on. 

    For any of the retards that laugh at someone betting on an outcome you were 100% sure of, you shouldn't place another wager. The point is to have an edge. I found a 100% guaranteed winner. When was the last time YOU have done so? 


    I never called you a loser that never wins. A liar yes.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 6:03 PM ET #265

    Anyone know what Tony's handle is on here?  I'm sure he's gotta be posting, right? 
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    Anyone know what Tony's handle is on here?  I'm sure he's gotta be posting, right? 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop:

    Anyone know what Tony's handle is on here?  I'm sure he's gotta be posting, right? 

    I think it's wrigleywagers he hangs out in the penalty box...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop:

    Anyone know what Tony's handle is on here?  I'm sure he's gotta be posting, right? 

    I think it's wrigleywagers he hangs out in the penalty box...

     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 6:15 PM ET #267

    Quote Originally Posted by drifter44:

    OK went and read most of all these fckn posts. Internet gambling is risky and has downfalls. If you do not like it stop gambling or move to Nevada and put up with the -110 vig!!!!   Here is the real question.....

    What the hell does "Rock of a Forum" mean that is the title to this awful thread can anyone answer that or what???   


    Do I have to wait another 200 posts to find out?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by drifter44:

    OK went and read most of all these fckn posts. Internet gambling is risky and has downfalls. If you do not like it stop gambling or move to Nevada and put up with the -110 vig!!!!   Here is the real question.....

    What the hell does "Rock of a Forum" mean that is the title to this awful thread can anyone answer that or what???   


    Do I have to wait another 200 posts to find out?????
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 6:46 PM ET #268

    Quote Originally Posted by drifter44:



    Do I have to wait another 200 posts to find out?????


    I think it was an insult?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drifter44:



    Do I have to wait another 200 posts to find out?????


    I think it was an insult?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by drifter44:



    Do I have to wait another 200 posts to find out?????

    He got the thread title from a quote in the chat on the first page...

    Tony: so back under the rock of the forum you crawled in from and let them all know what i just said

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    Quote Originally Posted by drifter44:



    Do I have to wait another 200 posts to find out?????

    He got the thread title from a quote in the chat on the first page...

    Tony: so back under the rock of the forum you crawled in from and let them all know what i just said

     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 6:52 PM ET #270

    As far as what the "Lingo" of that actually means, I have no clue... Tony must have got caught up in the moment...
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    As far as what the "Lingo" of that actually means, I have no clue... Tony must have got caught up in the moment...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 6:53 PM ET #271

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk_You:

    I never called you a loser that never wins. A liar yes.

    What did I ever lie about? The chat and the money are both very real, hence why this issue got so much attention. 

    The "Rock of a Forum" is what he called Covers and the posts/posters here. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk_You:

    I never called you a loser that never wins. A liar yes.

    What did I ever lie about? The chat and the money are both very real, hence why this issue got so much attention. 

    The "Rock of a Forum" is what he called Covers and the posts/posters here. 
     
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    Yeah, I am not sure why this guy is calling you a "Liar" either....
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    Yeah, I am not sure why this guy is calling you a "Liar" either....
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 7:20 PM ET #273

    Wow just read all 12 pages.

    For those that don't understand why Tony offered the money with the fuck off tag.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAuSTQUa3tM

    Vanzack its not clear and dry with the final result because the ring announcer actually gave two results for this match.

    I think in the future 5dimes and all books should wait 1 day before settling all WWE bets and use the official WWE results as there results.

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    Wow just read all 12 pages.

    For those that don't understand why Tony offered the money with the fuck off tag.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAuSTQUa3tM

    Vanzack its not clear and dry with the final result because the ring announcer actually gave two results for this match.

    I think in the future 5dimes and all books should wait 1 day before settling all WWE bets and use the official WWE results as there results.

     
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    people.... He is not calling Covers a "rock of a forum"... He is telling him to go back under the rock of THE forum you crawled from... saying he crawled out from under a rock... nothing to do with any specific forum... Rock is not being used as an adjective here...
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    people.... He is not calling Covers a "rock of a forum"... He is telling him to go back under the rock of THE forum you crawled from... saying he crawled out from under a rock... nothing to do with any specific forum... Rock is not being used as an adjective here...
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by pezeveng:

    Wow just read all 12 pages.

    For those that don't understand why Tony offered the money with the fuck off tag.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAuSTQUa3tM

    Vanzack its not clear and dry with the final result because the ring announcer actually gave two results for this match.

    I think in the future 5dimes and all books should wait 1 day before settling all WWE bets and use the official WWE results as there results.


    Great reference, but not even close to being applicable in this situation. 

    How anyone can give Tony a pass is ridiculous. To put some sort of weird ass spin on it and say that I'VE done ANYTHING wrong is even sillier. I placed a wager on a line offered. I won and wanted my money. What did I/others do wrong in this situation? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by pezeveng:

    Wow just read all 12 pages.

    For those that don't understand why Tony offered the money with the fuck off tag.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAuSTQUa3tM

    Vanzack its not clear and dry with the final result because the ring announcer actually gave two results for this match.

    I think in the future 5dimes and all books should wait 1 day before settling all WWE bets and use the official WWE results as there results.


    Great reference, but not even close to being applicable in this situation. 

    How anyone can give Tony a pass is ridiculous. To put some sort of weird ass spin on it and say that I'VE done ANYTHING wrong is even sillier. I placed a wager on a line offered. I won and wanted my money. What did I/others do wrong in this situation? 

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