5dimes Calls Covers a "rock of a forum"

You can research on-line books with Sport Book Review.  A local book is not trustworthy, especiaaly if you win big.  Moving to Vegas is not an option most people have.

Quote Originally Posted by BIGfnPOO:

y do any of u shmendricks bet with people and places youve never seen known or been? sorry i have a ged....i hear horror stories like this all the time  sportsbook fukd me out of 26k .... 5dimes fkd me etcetc....wsex   banged me....beted  screwed me ....wtf r u kids doing...u see a web site   u give yr life story to some aholes in a diff country..then u win and u want to get paid  ?  know who you bet with....i take yr bets  send yr $$ first to me....u shmendricks...u can trust me more then these  sites and thats the sad part........move to vegas if there isnt a bookie on yr block/bar/job/gym/casino/etcetc...sign up with a  unseen entity..knowing absolutely nada nothing about them and u give address phone#  credit cards#  birthdates, ss#s  u SHMENDRICKSSSSSSSSS............And by the by u got a right to bet as much as u want on anything they offer...but do it with a human being.....imo

kapanofor3...

oneline books are reliable. pick one that is listed on london stock exchange and your set...

https://www.covers.com/articles/articles.aspx?theArt=230064

wow, WWE, i didnt know it was possible to bet on this!!

Wow. What a slanted article. Very disappointing.

Factually inaccurate, too.

Well if Tony gets to present his interpretation on how it went down, its only fair that it be responded to in the comments section, gonna post it there as well:

1. "Williams told Covers.com before last Sunday’s event that each bout will be graded by what the ring announcer states at the end of the match. In the above case, the announced ruling was a draw."

In this case, at the end of the match (i.e. the conclusion of the main event, the last match on the card), the ring announced DID state a decision -- Miz was the winner and remained champion. Was there an initial decision announced? Yes. But the decision at the end of the match was clear.

Also, the ruling wasn't graded a draw until around 15-20 minutes after the event, while the Lawler/Cole ruling was done immediately after the match, within 5 minutes tops.

2. "A similar scenario happened during the Michael Cole and Jerry “The King” Lawler match. Lawler was initially ruled the winner, before the decision was overturned. Williams also ruled no action on that match, citing a listed rule on the site: "5Dimes does not recognize suspended games, protests, overturned decisions, etc., for wagering purposes.""

Also incorrect. Lawler was initially ruled the winner, but the decision was "overturned" by the Raw GM, so the announced result by the ring announcer (remember, that is key according to Tony himself) at the end of the match was Lawler wins. In fact, I had multiple parlays with Lawler in them and Lawler was graded as a win, NOT a no action or canceled bet.

3. "Williams: “Any time a customer can find a "hole" or a possible chance of getting paid on a selection in any wagering category that they think they can deem marginal, they're going to try to collect. We grade all events based on the posted rules on the website. Those rules were followed. In this case, a Covers.com interview was done where we even clearly stated, "The sportsbook grades each bout by what the ring announcer states at the end of the match." That is exactly how all bouts were graded.”"

Selective interpretation by Williams when it favors his book. Miz opened at +1000 and got down to around +140 by time of the event. That's a lot of winning Miz tickets to grade out if Miz is ruled the winner. For Tony to say that people who wanted the Miz graded as a winner are looking for "holes" or have "marginal" cases is a joke. The grade, based on his own books' interpretation, should have been a win. He can disagree with that, but for him to claim that Miz bettors were trying to somehow take a shot at his book looking for "holes" is flat out false.

4. “In my mind, we came out and handled the grade exactly as we said we were going to handle it prior to the event in a documented statement. There is no reason for the bouts in question to be graded in any other manner."

Except for the multitude of reasons that have been discussed ad nauseum in the threads about the topic.

Seems to me like this is a deterrent purpose interview more than anything else -- i.e., disagree with Tony and he'll show you the ****** door, so don't even get him angry.

5. "Anyone who felt it was that important to be paid on selections they most probably know were not winners, 'were paid.' Then, those same customers were shown the door. If it is that important to you to get paid on a bet you didn't win, it is that important to me to never have to deal with you again."

I think most bettors would agree that it is important for them to get paid on a bet that should have correctly been graded a winner, but instead, was interpreted in one way only, and that way just happens to favor the book who is making the decision. Conflict of interest perhaps?

bottom line 5dimes shouldn't be putting out lines on bullshit because there is no official rules ( rules are made up as they go along). as for the people betting on it, you shouldn't be betting on shit when the rules have so much grey area... hopefully both sides learned a lesson over this incident.

wow,,,,,,geezus,,,,,,i don't bet nor watch wrestling but sleazy move from lou, comes off like a greasy politician

If the bet wasn't a winner, he never would have conceded the settlements made. Do you really believe he would give you a win on

I would still like to know what they based the original line of +1000 off of... I still think originally something was supposed to happen and then got scrapped for some reason...

No way someone is going to make a line of +1000 without knowing some type of inside info..

MMA lines are never that high even with complete and total mismatches...

 Goes to show what you can get done when you stand up for what you believe. Well done to the OP!

betting on wwf

I have spent so much time on this damn site explaining exactly that. But people would rather bet on what's "cool" rather than bet on what makes them money.

5 Dimes sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!

They have great betting options and they deserve credit for that but their Customer Service is pathetic.....it flat out sucks!!

Fuck 5 Dimes

 

take the 2K and bounce...

This is a fake chat.... 5dimes has never talked to me like that and has always been polite. You can't handle ur canceled wager not being a win, boo freaking who. Your stating that it should be a win because WWE website says so. THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY GO BY FOR RULING A WIN LOSS OR TIE. HE HAS SAID THAT OVER AND OVER TO YOU AND YOU JUST CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT.  Your lucky he talked to your rookie WWE betting ass in the 1st place. Grow some

Not sure why you'd lay $2,000 on a "staged" wrestling event...