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55 people shot in Chicago this holiday weekend

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yup, there in chicago, let them kill themselves off, i will not be shedding a tear
 
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one less person to leach off of the government and have 7 kids they can't support
 
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Posted: #28
Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

JamesD,

Is that not already happening? Aren't addicts already involved in harming society? Dealers as well? I'm not saying my suggestion is the perfect solution. However I think it's a better alternative to the status quo of the current war on drugs.



Yes you are correct It is already happening all over the country. But a drug safe haven is no answer for many reasons . The only way to even put a dent in the drug trade or in illegal guns in the country is to institute EXTREMELY harsh MANDATORY sentences if a person is caught with a gun or in the sale of drugs . No drug programs no sob stories about needing protection . No exceptions. If the presidents daughter gets caught with a gun she goes to prison . Anyone no exceptions. 

This would be unreasonable and barbaric and in some isolated instances good people will suffer greatly because of these laws. The reality is something this extreme is the only way to turn things around anytime soon, maybe at all .
 
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Quote Originally Posted by JamesD816:



Yes you are correct It is already happening all over the country. But a drug safe haven is no answer for many reasons . The only way to even put a dent in the drug trade or in illegal guns in the country is to institute EXTREMELY harsh MANDATORY sentences if a person is caught with a gun or in the sale of drugs . No drug programs no sob stories about needing protection . No exceptions. If the presidents daughter gets caught with a gun she goes to prison . Anyone no exceptions. 

This would be unreasonable and barbaric and in some isolated instances good people will suffer greatly because of these laws. The reality is something this extreme is the only way to turn things around anytime soon, maybe at all .

I disagree on the harsh penalties for selling drugs. The sale of drugs isn't necessarily the problem. It's the fight over the drug dollars that is the problem. IMO, it mirrors prohibition with alcohol. There wasn't much, if any, violence stemming from the sale of alcohol until it was made illegal and the market was pushed underground. 

I don't think harsh, mandatory sentences is the solution for the sale of drugs. People won't stop selling/doing drugs due to harsh, mandatory sentences. IMO, legalizing the market place and getting rid of the underground (unprotected) market would help to stem some of the violence. Also, getting users and street level dealers away from society, so there isn't a turf war around citizens would help stem the violence. The police could then give these areas extra attention to help prevent violence. 

I agree that something extreme is needed to turn things around, however I think it needs to be extreme in the opposite direction that you refer too. 

I do appreciate you giving suggestions though. It's good to see someone give an idea for a solution instead of just criticizing others for their ideas for a solution without giving their own. 

 
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Posted: #30
Al Sharpton should get his ignorant racist behind to Chicago and help fix the problem at the source rather than pissing and moaning about about rare incident where a black is wronged by a white or  close to being white.

White people are not killing off the blacks, they are exterminating themselves.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:



 I agree that something extreme is needed to turn things around, however I think it needs to be extreme in the opposite direction that you refer too.





You are right, extreme and violent force is the only way that anyone will ever get through to people who have lived by their own rules their entire life. Like the saying goes, in order to make an omelet, you have to crack a few eggs, And any Liberal that thinks different is delusional.


 
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Quote Originally Posted by crod1980:




You are right, extreme and violent force is the only way that anyone will ever get through to people who have lived by their own rules their entire life. Like the saying goes, in order to make an omelet, you have to crack a few eggs, And any Liberal that thinks different is delusional.


These barbaric mini cultures amidst our great country can only be eradicated by force. If it's not in our ability to do so, then let them carry on in their little hoods until they eradicate themselves. 
 
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It's a shame that the POTUS doesn't do anything about it or doesn't care about his hometown of Chicago. I thought a brother is supposed to help each other out?
 
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Being tough in war on drugs has been a huge failure.  United States has the highest incarceration rate and prison population in the world.  Decades of enforcement and punishment haven't stop growth of illegal drugs distribution and consumption.
 
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The world has its ways of weeding out the worthless 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:


You can not legally purchase (there are no gun stores) or carry a firearm in the City of Chicago.

That law is workin' out great don't you think?
 
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For those that may not be aware, the city of Chicago is very segregated (not unlike most big metropolis's are). All I will say is that 98% of these shootings are happening on the South and West sides of the city. Don't go in those areas, this is one of the most beautiful cities in the country, hands down.

The other point is, like someone else mentioned... these shootings are 100% drug/gang related.  And "no", the police do not turn a blind eye to the crime, as was hinted. The city, and especially the South and West sides, are inundated with 'blue light cameras' that are providing 24/7/365 surveillance. The problem is that these crimes are mainly being created by young thugs who have absolutely ZERO value for human life, including their own.

I've lived here my entire life, and see the vicious circle year after year. I never once have felt threatened for myself or my family, because its all about the situation you put yourself in. Again, don't go in those areas, and you're not putting yourself at an increased risk. It's not as though the entire city and suburbs (close to 10 million people) are a war zone. 

Lastly, I see the mayor of Chicago and other leaders all puffy chested about the number of shootings/violent crimes being down this year (unbelievable hearing these statistics, I know!).  There is a simple correlation between this statistic, and the weather.  Bottom line, when the heat skyrockets, watch the killings go through the roof.  We have not had many 90 degree+ days so far.... but there's still plenty of time, Mr. Mayor.... So hang in there!
 
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Can you imagine how the press would be reporting on this if the Mayor of Chicago were a white Republican rather than the current white Democrat?

We'd be seeing breathless stories about a black genocide facilitated by the worthless neocons.

Instead, the phony little "tough guy" Rahm mostly gets a pass by blaming guns.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoMachine:

For those that may not be aware, the city of Chicago is very segregated (not unlike most big metropolis's are). All I will say is that 98% of these shootings are happening on the South and West sides of the city. Don't go in those areas, this is one of the most beautiful cities in the country, hands down.

The other point is, like someone else mentioned... these shootings are 100% drug/gang related.  And "no", the police do not turn a blind eye to the crime, as was hinted. The city, and especially the South and West sides, are inundated with 'blue light cameras' that are providing 24/7/365 surveillance. The problem is that these crimes are mainly being created by young thugs who have absolutely ZERO value for human life, including their own.

I've lived here my entire life, and see the vicious circle year after year. I never once have felt threatened for myself or my family, because its all about the situation you put yourself in. Again, don't go in those areas, and you're not putting yourself at an increased risk. It's not as though the entire city and suburbs (close to 10 million people) are a war zone. 

Lastly, I see the mayor of Chicago and other leaders all puffy chested about the number of shootings/violent crimes being down this year (unbelievable hearing these statistics, I know!).  There is a simple correlation between this statistic, and the weather.  Bottom line, when the heat skyrockets, watch the killings go through the roof.  We have not had many 90 degree+ days so far.... but there's still plenty of time, Mr. Mayor.... So hang in there!


atlanta is the same way.  highly segregated.  some of the serious crime spills over to the white areas but the majority of it is in the poor neighborhoods.  the cops don't care too much about it. 
 
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Looks like a total of 67 shot and zero killed. Talk about awful accuracy! Classic black on black crime in Chicago.
 
 
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most recent article says 67 shot, 11 killed since wed afternoon

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-chicago-violence-july-6july-7-20130706,0,34361.story
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