14 DEAD, 50 INJURED, AS OF NOW, IN SHOOTING AT MOVIE THEATRE IN COLORADO!

Hutch, do you know what kind of rifle he was carrying??

Can't seem to get anything reliable from the media.

The fucking quotes in fucking Covers don't fucking work.

Thanks hutch. Now that we that information then the anti gun ferries can stop with their bullshit. Where the fuck did he get his clip capacity? LAPD motor has 24 round AR-15 max clips. Civilians get 8 round clips. 100 rounds is a shitload, that's a drum clip. All of this will calm in my opinion to high capacity semi autos.

Assualt rifle = fully auto. (lead salad)

Semi auto = fast as you can squeeze the trigger with given clip capacity according to state laws..

Media can't get it straight. Takes a class C license to own a full auto weapon in the United States. Class C is hardcore to aquire.

Hutch, that's what this nutbag did. Felony right out of the chute aquiring that clip. Only place you can fire that without drawing attention is in a fucking cave.

Now we have something tangible. Good post.

The fact is, people who carry are generally responsible and never even pull their weapon (nor want to). Get over it for goodness sake. The number of people who carry has gone through the roof and the crime rate is not going up.

That's a straight statistical fact. Hutch I know is has and uses CCL. 1 dime says if he's in that theatre and has a clear shot at this guy, then he's taking it.

Ramp up gun ownership requirements in the country (to satisfy the libbys) and allow citizens in all states to apply for CCL.

More CCL's = empowering the citizens to defend themselves and their families. This would never happen in Texas.

Not the point. Point is that you live in fear. What are the chances you will ever meet some total stranger who wants to kill you? Close to zero. If everybody carries a gun chances are bigger of some freak accident.

 Good comedy. Wrong.

Talking yourself into a phonebooth with statistics pushing ya there sir.

This week, an 8-year-old boy accidentally shot and killed his 2-year-old sister in California.

"It's a tragic case of a sibling who picked up a firearm, thinking it was a toy, pointed it at his sister and discharged one round from the firearm, striking her in the head," said Vacaville Police Sgt. Charlie Spruill.

But these aren't freak accidents. More than 500 children die annually from accidental gunshots. Some shoot themselves, while others kill friends or siblings after discovering a gun.

Here are more scary stats: Americans own 200 million firearms, and 35 percent of homes contain at least one gun. Last year, a study conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that more than 1.7 million children live in homes with loaded and unlocked guns.

And if you do own a gun and think your kid won't get to it, listen to this: A recent study published in the Archives of Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine found that 39 percent of kids knew where their parents' guns were stored, while 22 percent said that they had handled the weapons despite adults' warnings to stay away. What's more, age was not a factor in whether children had played with the guns: Five-year-olds were just as likely to report doing so as 14-year-olds.

Here are just a few heartbreaking cases:

• Four-year-old Dylan Jackson shot himself to death after finding a loaded gun at a friend's home during a birthday party.

• A 3-year-old Southeast Washington boy shot himself in the foot and grazed his hand while playing with his father's gun -- which he found lying on the floor.

• A 2-year-old Tampa boy shot himself in the chest with a loaded 9 mm he found in his parent's couch while playing.

• Last February, a 13-year-old boy shot himself with a semiautomatic handgun in the home of his guardian, a Maryland police officer.

• The 10-year-old son of a New York City police officer died after shooting himself in the face with his father's loaded revolver. The boy found the weapon on a shelf in the basement while looking for a ball his mom had hidden.

Is there a way to stop these senseless deaths?

The NRA (National Rifle Association) sponsors classes to teach children that if they find a gun, to leave the area and inform an adult. But studies show that kids who take these classes are no less likely to play with guns than kids who don't attend the class.

"The biggest mistake parents make is assuming their child doesn't know where the gun in the house is," says Matthew Miller, associate director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. "Kids are smart, and if they know there's a firearm in the house, they'll probably figure out a way to get to it.

"We can't expect children to act like adults," he adds. "Parents monitor their kid's diet, curfew and social life, but when it comes to guns, parents often just say, 'Respect the gun; it's off-limits,' or, 'Guns are dangerous.' That type of parenting just doesn't work."

So should parents not tell kids if there's a gun in the home? 

"First, you have to weigh whether or not you really need a weapon," says Miller. "Do the benefits outweigh the risks? If the answer is yes, you must take safety precautions. Be honest with your children. Tell them there is a firearm in the home, but explicitly explain that guns are fatal, no matter how children handle them. Don't keep the gun loaded; store the ammunition in a locked safe and carry the key with you at all times. Also, don't hide the combination and don't give it an obvious numerical password.

"The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that pediatricians ask parents about guns in their home in an effort called 'Anticipatory Guidance,' which attempts to keep children safe in cars, on bikes and around swimming pools," adds Miller. "It's rare that doctors initiate this conversation, but they should. Also, [you should] ask the parents of your children's friends if they keep guns at home, and if kids will be playing where they're stored. Don't worry about appearing intrusive: It's better to seem pushy and be safe."

Do you think parents should keep guns in their home with children present?

Arguing with the left side of gun control women is like herding cats in a corn field.

Forget it, they just don't bother to study the information - sort of like their voting behavior.

Blah blah ....guns are bad.....blah blah....heres how it works for me. Ill let go of mine when they kill me.

Thank you.

This thread should be more about human psychosis.