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#176
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Let's get a grip people
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#178
Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
All I know from all of this is simple:
I want PaddyMacR to post non-stop.
Agreed
People got their money back from Neteller so that may be good, but this situation may be different. I don't know the details of the Neteller incident, but in the Beted situation it seems that owners still have the user accounts, not the DOJ. Thus, I'm not sure the DOJ would be able pay anyone their due until they get their hands on that information.
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#179
Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
All I know from all of this is simple:
I want PaddyMacR to post non-stop.
Please stay and post at covers. Yes, it is a square site made up of lots of folks who bet at crazy ass books, and lots of folks who will argue simple mathematics, and lots of folks who when presented with facts or fixes - will choose fixes.
We could use some more on the sanity side of the scale.
Thanks Vanzak,
My heart and soul is at OGD, which took me in when every other forum had banned me for speaking the truth about Calvin Ayre. Including this one. Me and the brother, Brunhuber, God rest him. I have a lot of friends at OGD, people I respect a lot, and I'm proud to be part of that place and its unique reputation.
But I do travel, I'm over at EOG now asking that, knowing one of their advertisers is a DOJ informant, they take down the Bodog banner. We'll see how that goes. And I'm here for this issue.
I do like it here. To me, it has a very nice feel about it. Kind of a quiet respectful place, and I'm not really one for the confrontation and agro anymore. Will if I have to, but prefer good humor and sometimes intelligent conversation and analysis.
Anyways, I'm sure I'll be around in this thread for a while and thanks again for the kind words.
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#180
Quote Originally Posted by jdamon26:
Agreed
People got their money back from Neteller so that may be good, but this situation may be different. I don't know the details of the Neteller incident, but in the Beted situation it seems that owners still have the user accounts, not the DOJ. Thus, I'm not sure the DOJ would be able pay anyone their due until they get their hands on that information.
Agreed
People got their money back from Neteller so that may be good, but this situation may be different. I don't know the details of the Neteller incident, but in the Beted situation it seems that owners still have the user accounts, not the DOJ. Thus, I'm not sure the DOJ would be able pay anyone their due until they get their hands on that information.
I think the first question the DOJ must answer is whether depositors have a legal right to their funds. As in Neteller, I think the answer is of course they do. I think the DOJ can only seize BetEd profits.
If Calvin isn't the owner, then it is possible that the BetEd guys will do the right thing and get the servers up so that they can assist the DOJ in identifying the innocent and getting their balances. I'm Irish, but I would expect that your government would at least have the honor not to hurt innocent people.
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#181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqRxMnH7_CY
Will never be able to listen to Mariachi without the visual
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#183
I'm not sure our government has the "honor" not to hurt innocent people (probably because they selfishly will maintain we are not innocent). I'm not sure if you have seen this article, but they already gave some money to the police, then took a picture with the check, almost mocking all of us who lost in the Beted. I was happy to see all of the comments at the bottom of the article completely bashing what took place.
https://odenton.patch.com/articles/county-police-net-470000-in-online-gambling-seizure#photo-6373325
The following link shows how the DOJ believes “The proceeds from illegal Internet gambling are often used to fuel organized crime and support criminal activity." How they came to this conclusion, I'm not sure.
https://www.regulatingonline.com/bookmaker-beted-among-latest-us-prosecutions/
There was a post somewhere on Covers that quoted a DOJ representative basically saying that anyone who gambled on Beted was supporting criminal activity and thus will not receive their money back. It was a pretty strong statement. I tried to find which thread the quote/article was in but haven't found it yet.
https://odenton.patch.com/articles/county-police-net-470000-in-online-gambling-seizure#photo-6373325
The following link shows how the DOJ believes “The proceeds from illegal Internet gambling are often used to fuel organized crime and support criminal activity." How they came to this conclusion, I'm not sure.
https://www.regulatingonline.com/bookmaker-beted-among-latest-us-prosecutions/
There was a post somewhere on Covers that quoted a DOJ representative basically saying that anyone who gambled on Beted was supporting criminal activity and thus will not receive their money back. It was a pretty strong statement. I tried to find which thread the quote/article was in but haven't found it yet.
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#184
...I will add that the check says "Operation Texas Hold-em" but it seems the money actually came from the accounts seized on the day Beted went down, not the poker indictments. This is evidenced by the following statement:
"The investigation involving Anne Arundel County Police is separate from the investigation resulting in the closure last month of several major Internet poker sites including Full Tilt Poker, Absolute Poker and PokerStars."
The implications of this is rather disheartening. Basically, this police unit headed the investigation, and then seized the money for the government, who then gave a chunk of the money back to the police. Seems very crooked. Almost like police everywhere should be taking on cases where grabbing money is involved because it will increase their pockets, instead of focusing on kidnappings, rapists, murders, etc.
"The investigation involving Anne Arundel County Police is separate from the investigation resulting in the closure last month of several major Internet poker sites including Full Tilt Poker, Absolute Poker and PokerStars."
The implications of this is rather disheartening. Basically, this police unit headed the investigation, and then seized the money for the government, who then gave a chunk of the money back to the police. Seems very crooked. Almost like police everywhere should be taking on cases where grabbing money is involved because it will increase their pockets, instead of focusing on kidnappings, rapists, murders, etc.
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#186
Quote Originally Posted by jdamon26:
I'm not sure our government has the "honor" not to hurt innocent people (probably because they selfishly will maintain we are not innocent). I'm not sure if you have seen this article, but they already gave some money to the police, then took a picture with the check, almost mocking all of us who lost in the Beted. I was happy to see all of the comments at the bottom of the article completely bashing what took place.
https://odenton.patch.com/articles/county-police-net-470000-in-online-gambling-seizure#photo-6373325
The following link shows how the DOJ believes “The proceeds from illegal Internet gambling are often used to fuel organized crime and support criminal activity." How they came to this conclusion, I'm not sure.
https://www.regulatingonline.com/bookmaker-beted-among-latest-us-prosecutions/
There was a post somewhere on Covers that quoted a DOJ representative basically saying that anyone who gambled on Beted was supporting criminal activity and thus will not receive their money back. It was a pretty strong statement. I tried to find which thread the quote/article was in but haven't found it yet.
I'm not sure our government has the "honor" not to hurt innocent people (probably because they selfishly will maintain we are not innocent). I'm not sure if you have seen this article, but they already gave some money to the police, then took a picture with the check, almost mocking all of us who lost in the Beted. I was happy to see all of the comments at the bottom of the article completely bashing what took place.
https://odenton.patch.com/articles/county-police-net-470000-in-online-gambling-seizure#photo-6373325
The following link shows how the DOJ believes “The proceeds from illegal Internet gambling are often used to fuel organized crime and support criminal activity." How they came to this conclusion, I'm not sure.
https://www.regulatingonline.com/bookmaker-beted-among-latest-us-prosecutions/
There was a post somewhere on Covers that quoted a DOJ representative basically saying that anyone who gambled on Beted was supporting criminal activity and thus will not receive their money back. It was a pretty strong statement. I tried to find which thread the quote/article was in but haven't found it yet.
Wow. I hadn't read that article. What a bunch of shit. How is the confiscated money not sitting in an account somewhere until everything is sorted out?
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#187
Quote Originally Posted by pjrez:
Wow. I hadn't read that article. What a bunch of shit. How is the confiscated money not sitting in an account somewhere until everything is sorted out?
Wow. I hadn't read that article. What a bunch of shit. How is the confiscated money not sitting in an account somewhere until everything is sorted out?
Exactly. I didn't even know they could legally do what they did without a hearing on all of the indictments.
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#188
Quote Originally Posted by PaddyMacR:
Listen up, laddie
Since I've come here, the insight I have provided is...
For some reason, Calvin Ayre has become an informant to the US department of justice. Without any substantiating evidence he has named the owners of this site as the owners of BetEd.
Calvin Ayre has been busted by the same prosecutor that busted Bet Ed. That prosecutor has a warrant out for his arrest.
The guys who run BetEd come from B.C. So does Calvin Ayre.
The indictments were unsealed three days before the accounts were seized. People had time to change their domain names, knowing they were going to be seized. Every target changed its domain name and carried on, as far as I know, except one. That was BetEd. But, get this new news, one that wasn't targetted also changed its domain name. That was Bodog. So you can expect the circumstances were that Bodog expected to have its domain name seized along with BetEd. Didn't happen, but they expected it.
The guys who run BetEd almost certainly ripped off people here in the three day 3x bonus deal. They had to know their accounts were seized or going to be seized and wanted to rip you and others off. They aren't going to pay you.
Calvin Ayre has a documented history of ripping people off big time. He didn't pay them.
There is a much better chance that Calvin Ayre is the one that ripped you off than the lads who own Covers.
If that isn't insight, you must be either functionally blind, or selectively blind.
That's what I have contributed of substance on here. In one day. Much more than likely that's the way its going to shake out.
Now, to the bit about Calvin's heinie. I didn't just fall off some turnip truck. I've been to more wars than you've had hot breakfasts. If you have some intelligent cogent argument to contribute here, fucking contribute it. Like a man. Never mind the this halfwittedly supposedly clever demeaning bullshit with talk about heinies.
You want to have little Esplanade's own special truth prevail, and the real truth gets in the way of that. Your own special truth is one which is really you screaming for Covers to bail you out. Whining, I think one of the mods described it as. You want, at the cost of honesty and the real truth, the truth to be that Covers somehow owes you. If somebody threatens that coming about, you start talking about heinies.
You want Covers to cover your losses? Tell me this, how much of the money you won off Covers listed books did you offer up to Covers, perhaps with a little thanks boys note? How much? If you ever won off BetEd, how much of a little thank you did you send along?
Fuck all, I'd say. But you hold them responsible for your losses.
I'm not here to create a subterfuge for Covers. I don't even know them, although one of the blokes seems to be Irish, and that's always a positive point with me.
As for all the people saying the money is lost, as I did, the Baines article does point out that all the people who got caught up in Netteller eventually did get their funds back from the DOJ seizure. Took nine months. I know that's not good for lots of people with cashflow issues, but I do expect now that the money will come back.
I think Ayre turned down your advances or something like that in Columbia. Am I close? Show me where I make a demand for Covers to mitigate my losses. What I said is that I covered the Beted losses of a relative. I'll expect <crickets>.
Sorry but your half witted lame assed rhetorical question about sending money to Covers doesn't fly.
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#189
Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:
I think Ayre turned down your advances or something like that in Columbia. Am I close? Show me where I make a demand for Covers to mitigate my losses. What I said is that I covered the Beted losses of a relative. I'll expect.
Sorry but your half witted lame assed rhetorical question about sending money to Covers doesn't fly.
endless blather
I think Ayre turned down your advances or something like that in Columbia. Am I close? Show me where I make a demand for Covers to mitigate my losses. What I said is that I covered the Beted losses of a relative. I'll expect
Sorry but your half witted lame assed rhetorical question about sending money to Covers doesn't fly.
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#192
Bodog Becky came on lying in the wee hours of the morning at my other forum and I just replied to her over there. Rather than think the whole thing up again over here, I hope I can be excused for the cut and paste.
Becky, do you write this stuff for an audience of cows. I mean, this is OGD, who the fuck do you think actually believes you. I have a post here from which most intelligent people would see immediately what Calvin is up to. Yes, Calvin, the Bicer Medical Calvin, the Big Book Calvin, the Kazootek Calvin, the Forbes Calvin and the man who single handledly brought on the UIGEA, the guy who had a nervous breakdown when he got hit with a 60 million judgment for patent theft and lost his domain name. The guy most people think is probably one of the stupidest people publicly known in the industry.
And now, the guy behind the BetEd ripoff. Because, Becky, a whole lot more people in Forumville believe me than you. I can't absolutely prove it, but I can lay out a detailed and rational analysis that so strongly points to the prostate testing fingers of Calvin Ayre being all over this fuckwitted bit of drama and theft.
And Becky, I'm going to write a story that says he is, unless I'm suddenly convinced by evidence other than "our sources" or "our unnamed sources" that he isn't.
Now, the arrest warrant. How the fuck would you know whether or not Calvin has an arrest warrant issued against him? Tell us all that. Come on back on here, don't run away, and tell me how anyone under a sealed indictment would know there is an arrest warrant out for him?
How in Christ's name could you ever imagine there wouldn't be? The guy confesses to operating an ongoing criminal enterprise in Forbes magazine. He loses $28 million in Maryland and two of his employees are charged. They have him as the guy who owned the payment processors in that Maryland bust. Then the case records went missing. WTF does that mean? Let me help you there. It may mean that there were superseding indictments and the whole package got sealed, including who had arrest warrants out on them. It may also mean that a major cooperation agreement was entered into, which included showing the feds how to set up their own processors. And which also had to include the smokescreen of his BetEd operation being busted.
You're a paid fucking liar when you say there are no arrest warrants out for him.
And listen up, you cute hoor. Nobody has any problem understanding the BetEd articles. Nobody now is in any doubt whatsoever that those articles demonstrate that Calvin Ayre is trying to feed the Covers guys to the DOJ to cover himself, and he thinks we are all such stupid cattle that we would believe "unnamed sources within the former BetEd employee group". For Christ sakes, you could be an unnamed source.
West Bromwich Albion, a Premier League football club, strikes a deal to wear the brand of an ongoing criminal enterprise on their shirts. Man oh fucking man, don't people do due diligence anymore? Do they need money so badly that they will take proceeds of crime as advertising dollars? You better hope the chairman of WBA, or even worse, the heads of the English FA and their enforcement people, don't read OGD. Or Covers.
Now that's a story for www.calvinayre.com. English Premier League club linked to stock market fraudster and man wanted by US Department of Justice and man widely believed to have been behind the BetEd ripoff of US gamblers. And, oh Holy God, the story gets even better, the same club accepting proceeds of crime to advertise a criminal enterprise on the shirts of its players.
It's almost like Brun was alive again, isn't it?"
Paddy
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And now, the guy behind the BetEd ripoff. Because, Becky, a whole lot more people in Forumville believe me than you. I can't absolutely prove it, but I can lay out a detailed and rational analysis that so strongly points to the prostate testing fingers of Calvin Ayre being all over this fuckwitted bit of drama and theft.
And Becky, I'm going to write a story that says he is, unless I'm suddenly convinced by evidence other than "our sources" or "our unnamed sources" that he isn't.
Now, the arrest warrant. How the fuck would you know whether or not Calvin has an arrest warrant issued against him? Tell us all that. Come on back on here, don't run away, and tell me how anyone under a sealed indictment would know there is an arrest warrant out for him?
How in Christ's name could you ever imagine there wouldn't be? The guy confesses to operating an ongoing criminal enterprise in Forbes magazine. He loses $28 million in Maryland and two of his employees are charged. They have him as the guy who owned the payment processors in that Maryland bust. Then the case records went missing. WTF does that mean? Let me help you there. It may mean that there were superseding indictments and the whole package got sealed, including who had arrest warrants out on them. It may also mean that a major cooperation agreement was entered into, which included showing the feds how to set up their own processors. And which also had to include the smokescreen of his BetEd operation being busted.
You're a paid fucking liar when you say there are no arrest warrants out for him.
And listen up, you cute hoor. Nobody has any problem understanding the BetEd articles. Nobody now is in any doubt whatsoever that those articles demonstrate that Calvin Ayre is trying to feed the Covers guys to the DOJ to cover himself, and he thinks we are all such stupid cattle that we would believe "unnamed sources within the former BetEd employee group". For Christ sakes, you could be an unnamed source.
West Bromwich Albion, a Premier League football club, strikes a deal to wear the brand of an ongoing criminal enterprise on their shirts. Man oh fucking man, don't people do due diligence anymore? Do they need money so badly that they will take proceeds of crime as advertising dollars? You better hope the chairman of WBA, or even worse, the heads of the English FA and their enforcement people, don't read OGD. Or Covers.
Now that's a story for www.calvinayre.com. English Premier League club linked to stock market fraudster and man wanted by US Department of Justice and man widely believed to have been behind the BetEd ripoff of US gamblers. And, oh Holy God, the story gets even better, the same club accepting proceeds of crime to advertise a criminal enterprise on the shirts of its players.
It's almost like Brun was alive again, isn't it?"
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#193
I'd like to go on the record here that, while Paddy makes a pretty compelling argument, I personally don't believe Calvin owned betED.
It's a sweet rumor, and while Paddy makes some interesting connections, there is no real proof available, and there is one big flaw, IMO.
We all know that Calvin cannot do anything and keep it secret. There's simply no way he would have been able to sit back and watch betED grow and become even moderately successful over the years without jumping up and taking credit for it. Wouldn't happen.
As for Becky's threat that...
"There is another Covers.com/BetED article coming soon that is even more clear for anyone that is unable to understand the ones currently published. The published articles are pretty clear on who the employees of BetED think the beneficial owners of BetED are, however."
Sounds like we are going to have some more anonymous ex-employees talking and making statements they couldn't possibly prove.
And Paddy, while I'm happy to have you here entertaining people as well as providing some valuable information, I do wish you would keep it above the waist and maybe provided a bit more provable evidence along with the accusations.
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#194
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Calvin does not own BetEd.
Calvin has never ever had an arrest warrant issued anywhere in the world. This information is inaccurate if its printed somewhere.
***** work closely with a number of operators but neither Calvin or any area of bodog world has any ownership of them and never has. I suggest that you contact Chalk directly if you require more details.
There is another Covers.com/BetED article coming soon that is even more clear for anyone that is unable to understand the ones currently published. The published articles are pretty clear on who the employees of BetED think the beneficial owners of BetED are, however.
Calvin has never ever had an arrest warrant issued anywhere in the world. This information is inaccurate if its printed somewhere.
***** work closely with a number of operators but neither Calvin or any area of bodog world has any ownership of them and never has. I suggest that you contact Chalk directly if you require more details.
There is another Covers.com/BetED article coming soon that is even more clear for anyone that is unable to understand the ones currently published. The published articles are pretty clear on who the employees of BetED think the beneficial owners of BetED are, however.
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#196
Quoted from Bodog Becky:
"There is another Covers.com/BetED article coming soon that is even more clear for anyone that is unable to understand the ones currently published."
I've read the articles. They are pretty straightforward. Now they are insulting our intelligence and reading comprehension? Having someone like Becky come on and make "by the book" and robotic/redundant claims is also pretty annoying. After reading a LONG forum on SBR about how Bodog could not find a way to pay some unfortunate person from New York (he was owed around 10k, but after much discussion forced him to go through 3rd + 4th parties and he only received around 3-4k after fees), I switched to a better book and couldn't be happier. Well, I guess I could be happier...if I got my Beted money back.
"There is another Covers.com/BetED article coming soon that is even more clear for anyone that is unable to understand the ones currently published."
I've read the articles. They are pretty straightforward. Now they are insulting our intelligence and reading comprehension? Having someone like Becky come on and make "by the book" and robotic/redundant claims is also pretty annoying. After reading a LONG forum on SBR about how Bodog could not find a way to pay some unfortunate person from New York (he was owed around 10k, but after much discussion forced him to go through 3rd + 4th parties and he only received around 3-4k after fees), I switched to a better book and couldn't be happier. Well, I guess I could be happier...if I got my Beted money back.
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#197
Quote Originally Posted by jdamon26:
Quoted from Bodog Becky:
"There is another Covers.com/BetED article coming soon that is even more clear for anyone that is unable to understand the ones currently published."
I've read the articles. They are pretty straightforward. Now they are insulting our intelligence and reading comprehension? Having someone like Becky come on and make "by the book" and robotic/redundant claims is also pretty annoying. After reading a LONG forum on SBR about how Bodog could not find a way to pay some unfortunate person from New York (he was owed around 10k, but after much discussion forced him to go through 3rd + 4th parties and he only received around 3-4k after fees), I switched to a better book and couldn't be happier. Well, I guess I could be happier...if I got my Beted money back.
Quoted from Bodog Becky:
"There is another Covers.com/BetED article coming soon that is even more clear for anyone that is unable to understand the ones currently published."
I've read the articles. They are pretty straightforward. Now they are insulting our intelligence and reading comprehension? Having someone like Becky come on and make "by the book" and robotic/redundant claims is also pretty annoying. After reading a LONG forum on SBR about how Bodog could not find a way to pay some unfortunate person from New York (he was owed around 10k, but after much discussion forced him to go through 3rd + 4th parties and he only received around 3-4k after fees), I switched to a better book and couldn't be happier. Well, I guess I could be happier...if I got my Beted money back.
That situation was totally unacceptable and the "jenny Woo" wanna be kept alleging the player had been offered payment options that he didn't take. Only thing she didn't tell you was it was gonna cost him $750 to get a 4 figure withdrawal. In her book that would fall into the "we have never missed a payment in 16 years" category. She is peter principle at its best.
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#198
Quote Originally Posted by MRSARATOGA:
That situation was totally unacceptable and the "jenny Woo" wanna be kept alleging the player had been offered payment options that he didn't take. Only thing she didn't tell you was it was gonna cost him $750 to get a 4 figure withdrawal. In her book that would fall into the "we have never missed a payment in 16 years" category. She is peter principle at its best.
Actually, the situation was even worse than that. Despite the $750 withdrawal fee charged by Bodog, they also paid out through a 3rd party, which took a big cut, which then paid out to a 4th party, which also took a cut. No way a 9-10k balance should only be paid around 3-5k total. Also, the balance was paid out in increments, not even at once (which is fine but still adds to the headache).
Furthermore, the user deposited using the normal cash deposit options (you know what they are...rhymes with honeyham and bestern munion) but they would not allow him to receive funds from that route (and continuously refused to give reasoning why not). Also, they told him one thing he could do was set up a bank account outside of NY, and he tried that. After he set up the account, they said they now need proof of residence in that state (water bill, etc). Now that is basically giving him the run-around because obviously they knew he didn't live in that state. As for that ridiculous offer which he ended up taking, they basically told him his choices are to take the offer or never see his money.
You have never missed a payment in 16 years? Maybe you didn't "miss" this payment, but you certainly did delay it and did not pay out in full.
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#199
Quote Originally Posted by Freedom@Stake:
I'd like to go on the record here that, while Paddy makes a pretty compelling argument, I personally don't believe Calvin owned betED.
I'd like to go on the record here that, while Paddy makes a pretty compelling argument, I personally don't believe Calvin owned betED.
It's a sweet rumor, and while Paddy makes some interesting connections, there is no real proof available, and there is one big flaw, IMO.
We all know that Calvin cannot do anything and keep it secret. There's simply no way he would have been able to sit back and watch betED grow and become even moderately successful over the years without jumping up and taking credit for it. Wouldn't happen.
As for Becky's threat that...
"There is another Covers.com/BetED article coming soon that is even more clear for anyone that is unable to understand the ones currently published. The published articles are pretty clear on who the employees of BetED think the beneficial owners of BetED are, however."
Sounds like we are going to have some more anonymous ex-employees talking and making statements they couldn't possibly prove.
And Paddy, while I'm happy to have you here entertaining people as well as providing some valuable information, I do wish you would keep it above the waist and maybe provided a bit more provable evidence along with the accusations.
Freedom,
I think two things matter in all of this. Firstly, this is a gambling forum, not a courtroom. There isn't going to be "proof" of whether you or Calvin or Billy Bob Thornton were phantom owners of BetEd.All we can do is accept that from the beginning, we had stories on Ayre's website that indicated that a once moderately important figure in online gaming had openly become an informant for the DOJ, and a false informant at that. It was you he was falsely informing on, using a website as an alternative to putting a dime in a payphone.
So the two things are: who owns BetEd, and who's an informant. You say I make a compelling argument, and it is just that, an argument, in the context of dispelling a false and vicious rumor to the folks on this forum, which is a very different place than the forum I usually post on. It's not an argument for a jury, it's an argument to warn people that a man with a long and disgraceful history of deceit is trying to con them. It's says, "Here's your other possibility".
There is a countervailing point to my theory, but it is not that Calvin can't keep a secret, the theory behind your belief that he doesn't own BetEd. Calvin has many secrets, and I know some of the worst ones. He knows I know. You miscalculate in your theory because you don't recognize that Calvin the illegal gaming operator disappeared a couple of years ago, to be replaced by Calvin the brand name owner and franchisor. He can't escape his Bodog crimes, although he tries to do that through this ridiculous "it ain't me, its da Mohawks" story, but the last thing he is going to do is admit to owning another site, let alone brag about it. So that secret he could keep.
The thing I actually find goes against my theory is that, despite being humiliated by getting the boot from Covers,he would then feed it substantial revenue from BetEd. I find it hard, but not impossible, to believe such a vengeful self centered prick would do that. But, no doubt it makes business sense, and why miss the chance to have BetEd rise in prominence if advertising with his humiliators could do that?
As for below the belt, I have no idea what you are talking about. Seriously. The man is trying to grass you out to the US government and hang the 3x bonus fraud on you at the same time. Against such a creep, what would be below the belt?
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#200
PADDYMACR, I sit here reading thru this, trying to absorb what makes the most sense. If this person had the forward thinking to calculate the end result, then maybe it was a dollar well spent to feed Covers ad money, push this "Super Bonus" knowing the future held the Medium sized BETED being seized, as well as doing a potentially unrepairable scar on the name of Covers. I thought I read in days past, that F@S stated that Covers got stiffed on the overdue BETED ad account. I know almost nothing about this Calvin, but do you feel he holds the intelligence to look that far ahead...?
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