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    HELP..HELP...MY BOOK SHUT ME OFF. HELP with new BOOK

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    tedwalsh7
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2017 - 7:44 AM ET #1

    guys yesterday I got my account closed at BETUS bc they said im no longer a non recreational bettor.. I loved betting there bc they pay you out on a debit card n you get cash at ATM..

    MY HELP comes with you guys..
    ;
    BETCOIN i hear is not safe

    other books offer WIRES n CHECKS

    Does anyone use those 2 options .My issue is if we start getting wires the banks are going to question what we are doing n checks , same thing..

    Would walmart cash the checks you think??

    OR does anyone know of any ther sites that ay you on a debit card

    PLEASE HELP.. IM OFF to work and kinda of upset bc ive been with them for 15 yrs and now they cut me off bc i win to much

    ANY ADVICE on where to play and how u guys feel about getting wires into ur USA BANK??

    thanks

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    guys yesterday I got my account closed at BETUS bc they said im no longer a non recreational bettor.. I loved betting there bc they pay you out on a debit card n you get cash at ATM..

    MY HELP comes with you guys..
    ;
    BETCOIN i hear is not safe

    other books offer WIRES n CHECKS

    Does anyone use those 2 options .My issue is if we start getting wires the banks are going to question what we are doing n checks , same thing..

    Would walmart cash the checks you think??

    OR does anyone know of any ther sites that ay you on a debit card

    PLEASE HELP.. IM OFF to work and kinda of upset bc ive been with them for 15 yrs and now they cut me off bc i win to much

    ANY ADVICE on where to play and how u guys feel about getting wires into ur USA BANK??

    thanks

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2017 - 12:27 PM ET #2

    you should not be gambling son,you are in never never land 
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2017 - 7:34 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by joanne12:

    you should not be gambling son,you are in never never land 
    ^^^this^^^
    As long as they pretend to pay me I will pretend to work
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    you should not be gambling son,you are in never never land 
    ^^^this^^^
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2017 - 4:09 AM ET #4

    Here's the gist of it. If you are a good bettor, no books will want you. For all of us in the United States, they understand that they can darn us over whenever they choose to do so because sports betting outside of casinos in select few states is federally illegal. We can hire no representation because of this fact. All books-- even the "best rated" books for Americans-- WILL eventually darn you over. Hell, you can't even truly make it in Vegas as a good bettor unless you have runners and even then the Feds will eventually be on your behind. See: Billy Walters

    All 100% reputable books that currently exist then, do not accept American bettors. If you want to make money without worries in this manner, you have to move abroad my friend. Move to Mexico and then you can sign up for a solid international book like Pinnacle. Betting is a great thing but unfortunately it is not such a great thing in this particular nook of the world. Our government is not desperate enough for the tax revenue... yet.

    That being said, 5Dimes is the best book for U.S. players-- by a long shot. Yes, Tony is also a scammer and if you've grown your account to such a large amount, he'll darn you over. I withdrew a good $12,000 off of a $1000 deposit before they started giving me the run around about further id for account verification and all. I had already gone through the verification process so there was no need for it. I knew this and I knew what they were doing. I also knew that I had minutely raped them over my years of betting with them too sooo I just had to laugh about it and move on. I was not conducive to the profit margin of 5Dimes and so it was the nicest way of them to say,

    "Hey, you're too good to bet here. We're not going to make any money off of you. Take a hike."

    If you go with 5Dimes though, I do have a few pieces of advice. Never deposit too much. Grow your account and as soon as you can make a withdrawal for profit, do so. At the point that you are playing with house money, you can never lose. Always keep your account less than $9000 large and never ask for a cashout that is over 25% of that. Will you be able to grow your account to the point where a 1% bet of your roll is $1,000 and you are cashing free every month? No, absolutely not. You can however siphon a good chunk of profits if you do your best to fly under the radar and maintain yourself as a "recreational bettor." 

    My last piece of advice to you. Don't darn with courier checks-- but it sounds like you pretty much already know that. Bitcoin is your friend. Use it to fund and to withdraw. The U.S. bank system is perhaps the most evil thing that exists in the known world today. They track every single thing you do as they are the regulators of the grand Ponzi scheme that is this country. As soon as you are trying to clear Canadian checks from shell companies every other month, they'll start to catch on to something fishy and your account will be flagged. As soon as your account is flagged, banks begin to treat you like a criminal no matter what you do. Trust me, that is not something that you want. 

    I hope I've helped and that you can still squeeze some side money out of the books. Keep your day job/stay in school though, and learn to trade stocks.
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    Here's the gist of it. If you are a good bettor, no books will want you. For all of us in the United States, they understand that they can darn us over whenever they choose to do so because sports betting outside of casinos in select few states is federally illegal. We can hire no representation because of this fact. All books-- even the "best rated" books for Americans-- WILL eventually darn you over. Hell, you can't even truly make it in Vegas as a good bettor unless you have runners and even then the Feds will eventually be on your behind. See: Billy Walters

    All 100% reputable books that currently exist then, do not accept American bettors. If you want to make money without worries in this manner, you have to move abroad my friend. Move to Mexico and then you can sign up for a solid international book like Pinnacle. Betting is a great thing but unfortunately it is not such a great thing in this particular nook of the world. Our government is not desperate enough for the tax revenue... yet.

    That being said, 5Dimes is the best book for U.S. players-- by a long shot. Yes, Tony is also a scammer and if you've grown your account to such a large amount, he'll darn you over. I withdrew a good $12,000 off of a $1000 deposit before they started giving me the run around about further id for account verification and all. I had already gone through the verification process so there was no need for it. I knew this and I knew what they were doing. I also knew that I had minutely raped them over my years of betting with them too sooo I just had to laugh about it and move on. I was not conducive to the profit margin of 5Dimes and so it was the nicest way of them to say,

    "Hey, you're too good to bet here. We're not going to make any money off of you. Take a hike."

    If you go with 5Dimes though, I do have a few pieces of advice. Never deposit too much. Grow your account and as soon as you can make a withdrawal for profit, do so. At the point that you are playing with house money, you can never lose. Always keep your account less than $9000 large and never ask for a cashout that is over 25% of that. Will you be able to grow your account to the point where a 1% bet of your roll is $1,000 and you are cashing free every month? No, absolutely not. You can however siphon a good chunk of profits if you do your best to fly under the radar and maintain yourself as a "recreational bettor." 

    My last piece of advice to you. Don't darn with courier checks-- but it sounds like you pretty much already know that. Bitcoin is your friend. Use it to fund and to withdraw. The U.S. bank system is perhaps the most evil thing that exists in the known world today. They track every single thing you do as they are the regulators of the grand Ponzi scheme that is this country. As soon as you are trying to clear Canadian checks from shell companies every other month, they'll start to catch on to something fishy and your account will be flagged. As soon as your account is flagged, banks begin to treat you like a criminal no matter what you do. Trust me, that is not something that you want. 

    I hope I've helped and that you can still squeeze some side money out of the books. Keep your day job/stay in school though, and learn to trade stocks.
     
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