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I posted up at an unreliable sportsbook not doing my research first and now I am having trouble getting paid. I made several deposits back to back as their limit amounts per transaction are very low so I needed to make several transactions. I had a decent run, and then provided the necessary papework to request a payout however they have neither taken the money out of my account after couple weeks nor have they responded to my emails. At this point I'd be content just getting my money back. If I do a ch-back on multiple transactions can I get into legal trouble since I've already provided authorization forms as well copies of my id? Also I have considered saying 1 of the transactions were okayed by me but the rest were not as this sounds more reasonable. Any advice will be higly appreciated.
 
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No legal trouble at all. It's all off shore correct? However doing a charge back on a debit card is a little more difficult than if it was a credit card. Assuming it was a debit card. All banks r different. If you have done business this book for awhile with several transactions and never had any issues in the past. The bank may tell you to get bent. Just keep in mind if you do do a charge back your will  most likely be banned from any book that is affiliated with the book u r doing a Charge back with.  The auth form just basically proves that it's u and your card. However it doesn't mean they "couldn't have charges your card multiple times" wink wink. Good luck. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by chargers6901:

No legal trouble at all. It's all off shore correct? However doing a charge back on a debit card is a little more difficult than if it was a credit card. Assuming it was a debit card. All banks r different. If you have done business this book for awhile with several transactions and never had any issues in the past. The bank may tell you to get bent. Just keep in mind if you do do a charge back your will  most likely be banned from any book that is affiliated with the book u r doing a Charge back with.  The auth form just basically proves that it's u and your card. However it doesn't mean they "couldn't have charges your card multiple times" wink wink. Good luck. 


Not just any affiliated book, but any book that uses the same processor. And processors could share a negative databases as well. 
 
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I posted a response in here but mods must have not liked my suggestion cause its been deleted.

Censorship is awesome.


 
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Quote Originally Posted by chargers6901:

No legal trouble at all. It's all off shore correct? However doing a charge back on a debit card is a little more difficult than if it was a credit card. Assuming it was a debit card. All banks r different. If you have done business this book for awhile with several transactions and never had any issues in the past. The bank may tell you to get bent. Just keep in mind if you do do a charge back your will  most likely be banned from any book that is affiliated with the book u r doing a Charge back with.  The auth form just basically proves that it's u and your card. However it doesn't mean they "couldn't have charges your card multiple times" wink wink. Good luck. 


its a CC. So I can just tell them I have several charges I did not process myself and they will go ahead with it without asking any questions? Like I said this is a fairly large sum of money as the deposits were stretched over a 2 week period hence the reason I am worried.
 
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What's your reason to charging back? Are they holding winning funds or did you just lose your bets?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by ropeAAdope:

What's your reason to charging back? Are they holding winning funds or did you just lose your bets?


its a D- rated book by SBR, which I discovered just a couple days ago. They are apparently known for slowpaying and I have no clue how long it will take to receive the funds.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by lifemisspent:

I posted a response in here but mods must have not liked my suggestion cause its been deleted.

Censorship is awesome.



He posted the same thing in two forums.  Your response is here

https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=35&sub=101964680


 
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its a CC. So I can just tell them I have several charges I did not process myself and they will go ahead with it without asking any questions? Like I said this is a fairly large sum of money as the deposits were stretched over a 2 week period hence the reason I am worried.
I would just tell the cc company you authorized 1 or 2 charges but not the rest. Usually the cc company  will credit your account right away and then do their investigation. Most likely the book with not argue. They don't wanna piss off visa or MasterCard. 

 
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What is the sportsbook gonna do ? Call up the CC company from Costa Rica and tell them that Joe Blow actually deposited to our online sportsbook when the CC company has been led to believe all along that the CC processor being used is supposed to be for a legitimate business ?

Those authorization papers you fill out are strictly to be use as scare tactics. The sportsbook wants nothing to do with the Credit Card company.

 
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will the bank itself give me any problems for disputing such large amounts and waiting almost a month to dispute the charges?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by unreal33:

will the bank itself give me any problems for disputing such large amounts and waiting almost a month to dispute the charges?

They might , if they think you are trying to defraud someone they might look into it further. If they ask if you knowingly used your credit card to make a deposit to an online sportsbook how are you prepared to answer ?


 
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Quote Originally Posted by lifemisspent:


They might , if they think you are trying to defraud someone they might look into it further. If they ask if you knowingly used your credit card to make a deposit to an online sportsbook how are you prepared to answer ?




I'm obviously not prepared to answer that. No clue what I would do if that was asked. Is their any chance of that happening?  I was just hoping to tell them I made an online purchase and the company kept charging me over time without me knowing several times.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by unreal33:



I'm obviously not prepared to answer that. No clue what I would do if that was asked. Is their any chance of that happening?  I was just hoping to tell them I made an online purchase and the company kept charging me over time without me knowing several times.

Just be prepared.......if you stumble or give them answers they know are false kiss your future credit goodbye.

They might ask what website you went too and what your trying to purchase.

I would tell them just flat out that you never bought or paid for anything online whatspever and you have no idea who those people are or how they got your info.

In this situation its 100% lie or no lie at all. You need to decide what you are comfy with.


 
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after doing a ch-back how long does it usually take for the sportsbook to realize what you have done?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by unreal33:

after doing a ch-back how long does it usually take for the sportsbook to realize what you have done?

Probably a month, but why would you care ?


 
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To sum this up .. "secret" offshore book is trying to rip u off....but u have the upper rip off hand...do what lifemisspent has advised.

There is that last question that you posed tho...red flag? 
 
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Simple Solution. It's a goodie too. Don't even bother with the sports book, or your bank. Research the processor..
   
 
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Quote Originally Posted by unreal33:

I posted up at an unreliable sportsbook not doing my research first and now I am having trouble getting paid. I made several deposits back to back as their limit amounts per transaction are very low so I needed to make several transactions. I had a decent run, and then provided the necessary papework to request a payout however they have neither taken the money out of my account after couple weeks nor have they responded to my emails. At this point I'd be content just getting my money back. If I do a ch-back on multiple transactions can I get into legal trouble since I've already provided authorization forms as well copies of my id? Also I have considered saying 1 of the transactions were okayed by me but the rest were not as this sounds more reasonable. Any advice will be higly appreciated.

sent you a friend request I got the answer to your issue pm me.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by OC_sharp949:


sent you a friend request I got the answer to your issue pm me.

hey, i would be very interested to hear your answer... i'll send a friend request
 
 
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Does anyone know anything about betonline ag? I bet on a 15 team parlay & I won for 7500. I always double check my teams before I hit confirm my picks. Now, there was a switch of 1 of my picks. Has this every happened  to anyone before? I played a 7 pt teaser on cin/hou under 51...After I won, they told me I had ov 36! Bullshit! They switched it on me in the system.
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