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    1vice.ag -- what the hell?

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    GIANFRANCO1114
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2016 - 9:27 AM ET #1

    I am a bigger player and get emails from these idiots everyday but I read alot about small limits so never even responded. But then a few ago I got the march madness promo and said maybe I will give them a try come conference tourney time. Then I saw something on twitter yesterday about them slow paying a customer so decided I would just email them. See email below. Who would ever deal with a book like this?

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: SUPPORT@1VICE <support@1vice.com>
    Date: Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:21 AM
    Subject: Re: new account
    To: GIAN FRANCO <gianfranco1114@gmail.com>


    Lol are you giving me a lesson on ethics?

    On Feb 12, 2016 8:18 AM, "GIAN FRANCO" <gianfranco1114@gmail.com> wrote:
    No reputable company should be talking like that even if they are a former client. I am a stock broker and have hundreds of ex-customers / investors and would never speak to the worst of them in that way. Do you think that is the proper way to address anyone especially when you are at fault for apparently closing the account and slow paying the guy?

    On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:10 AM, SUPPORT@1VICE <support@1vice.com> wrote:

    That company yourvasking about is owned by a former client of ours who we terminated here. So we are not intetested in their input. We have reached out to the client directly.

    On Feb 12, 2016 8:02 AM, "GIAN FRANCO" <gianfranco1114@gmail.com> wrote:
    Why would someone there not try and help the company trying to help your customer? Is that how your reps deal with people?

    On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:23 AM, SUPPORT@1VICE <support@1vice.com> wrote:
    Good morning 

    What do you mean by "whats going on here"

    Things are business as usual here my friend.

    Griffin

    On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:38 PM, GIAN FRANCO <gianfranco1114@gmail.com> wrote:
    My name is Franco and I am a popular poster on covers.com (username gianfranco1114) and alot of people speak highly of you guys and some do not. I want to take advantage of the no juice march madness but have some concerns about limits and I saw this on social media today. https://onthegamblersside.com/news/forums/do-not-play-here/ivice-complaint/ What is going on there?
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    I am a bigger player and get emails from these idiots everyday but I read alot about small limits so never even responded. But then a few ago I got the march madness promo and said maybe I will give them a try come conference tourney time. Then I saw something on twitter yesterday about them slow paying a customer so decided I would just email them. See email below. Who would ever deal with a book like this?

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: SUPPORT@1VICE <support@1vice.com>
    Date: Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:21 AM
    Subject: Re: new account
    To: GIAN FRANCO <gianfranco1114@gmail.com>


    Lol are you giving me a lesson on ethics?

    On Feb 12, 2016 8:18 AM, "GIAN FRANCO" <gianfranco1114@gmail.com> wrote:
    No reputable company should be talking like that even if they are a former client. I am a stock broker and have hundreds of ex-customers / investors and would never speak to the worst of them in that way. Do you think that is the proper way to address anyone especially when you are at fault for apparently closing the account and slow paying the guy?

    On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:10 AM, SUPPORT@1VICE <support@1vice.com> wrote:

    That company yourvasking about is owned by a former client of ours who we terminated here. So we are not intetested in their input. We have reached out to the client directly.

    On Feb 12, 2016 8:02 AM, "GIAN FRANCO" <gianfranco1114@gmail.com> wrote:
    Why would someone there not try and help the company trying to help your customer? Is that how your reps deal with people?

    On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:23 AM, SUPPORT@1VICE <support@1vice.com> wrote:
    Good morning 

    What do you mean by "whats going on here"

    Things are business as usual here my friend.

    Griffin

    On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:38 PM, GIAN FRANCO <gianfranco1114@gmail.com> wrote:
    My name is Franco and I am a popular poster on covers.com (username gianfranco1114) and alot of people speak highly of you guys and some do not. I want to take advantage of the no juice march madness but have some concerns about limits and I saw this on social media today. https://onthegamblersside.com/news/forums/do-not-play-here/ivice-complaint/ What is going on there?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2016 - 3:50 PM ET #2

    That's bullshit bro. 
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    That's bullshit bro. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2016 - 8:12 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by mrcash101:

    That's bullshit bro. 

    Wait.. what is bullshit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcash101:

    That's bullshit bro. 

    Wait.. what is bullshit?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2016 - 10:59 AM ET #4

    I will say that Griffin has always paid me lightning fast. I got one payout a while back in less than 2 hours via moolahgram. That being said a lot of the stuff you read on here can definitely scare you. I use them for small deposits and promos because I trust them until I get shafted just as with any shop. But they are a recreational book and don't even want the pro or big bettor so if I make a big deposit and want to play larger I use Heritage or Bookmaker.

    Griffin is a good dude and will be nice until he feels like you are attacking his book or his guys. Everyone isn't always gonna get along with everyone. If you like the book and not Griffin just talk to ED. He has been there forever and will get you sorted properly. I had the same problem with Steven and I didn't get along with him. He was a knucklehead and I remember seeing that note on my account history once. Jennifer also does a great job if you want to try her out. Good small book that pays everyone. Not for pro bettors.

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    I will say that Griffin has always paid me lightning fast. I got one payout a while back in less than 2 hours via moolahgram. That being said a lot of the stuff you read on here can definitely scare you. I use them for small deposits and promos because I trust them until I get shafted just as with any shop. But they are a recreational book and don't even want the pro or big bettor so if I make a big deposit and want to play larger I use Heritage or Bookmaker.

    Griffin is a good dude and will be nice until he feels like you are attacking his book or his guys. Everyone isn't always gonna get along with everyone. If you like the book and not Griffin just talk to ED. He has been there forever and will get you sorted properly. I had the same problem with Steven and I didn't get along with him. He was a knucklehead and I remember seeing that note on my account history once. Jennifer also does a great job if you want to try her out. Good small book that pays everyone. Not for pro bettors.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2016 - 12:37 PM ET #5

    That is cool they are for smaller players but why talk like that? Apparently "Griff" does not know what he is doing.

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr-news/1vice-sportsbook-be-reassumed-rdg-corp-69151/

    From link: 

    1Vice Griffin: "After reviewing our current business model, it has become apparent that we have made some wrong decisions, regarding bonuses, promotions, and player risk management. After the Superbowl, the 1Vice brand, will be moving to the RDGCorp Solution, as well as, revamping our business model, to mirror OTHER successful RDG Brands. During this transition we will be auditing accounts, and closing accounts that do NOT fit our NEW business model, and making arrangements to settle those accounts in a timely manner. We are excited about this change, and with the support of RDG Corp, will can ensure the success of 1Vice, and improve the already high quality of service our clients already enjoy."

    It is unclear if players will be immediately able to withdraw following the move or if a rollover will be placed on funds. SBR is seeking clarification from 1Vice on this.

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    RDG has always had payout issues so it does not get much better. This Griff is clueless it seems. And to me it also seems they are getting rid of anyone that requests a payout and is up through the "audit" BS in hopes of slow paying them until cash flow picks up for March Madness. I have never heard of a book going through an "audit" to get rid of customers. You play there now you might be better off giving it to a homeless person on the corner as it might go to better use 

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    That is cool they are for smaller players but why talk like that? Apparently "Griff" does not know what he is doing.

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr-news/1vice-sportsbook-be-reassumed-rdg-corp-69151/

    From link: 

    1Vice Griffin: "After reviewing our current business model, it has become apparent that we have made some wrong decisions, regarding bonuses, promotions, and player risk management. After the Superbowl, the 1Vice brand, will be moving to the RDGCorp Solution, as well as, revamping our business model, to mirror OTHER successful RDG Brands. During this transition we will be auditing accounts, and closing accounts that do NOT fit our NEW business model, and making arrangements to settle those accounts in a timely manner. We are excited about this change, and with the support of RDG Corp, will can ensure the success of 1Vice, and improve the already high quality of service our clients already enjoy."

    It is unclear if players will be immediately able to withdraw following the move or if a rollover will be placed on funds. SBR is seeking clarification from 1Vice on this.

    --

    RDG has always had payout issues so it does not get much better. This Griff is clueless it seems. And to me it also seems they are getting rid of anyone that requests a payout and is up through the "audit" BS in hopes of slow paying them until cash flow picks up for March Madness. I have never heard of a book going through an "audit" to get rid of customers. You play there now you might be better off giving it to a homeless person on the corner as it might go to better use 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 16, 2016 - 11:06 PM ET #6

    Do not play on 1vice.ag - I ran up a total of 6800 dollars. Refused to pay. Then decided to pay me on Fridays 600 a week. Only paid out 2300
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    Do not play on 1vice.ag - I ran up a total of 6800 dollars. Refused to pay. Then decided to pay me on Fridays 600 a week. Only paid out 2300
     
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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2016 - 9:21 AM ET #7

    book seems to be a shady joke. griff is just another jon kreta from beislands 
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    book seems to be a shady joke. griff is just another jon kreta from beislands 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2016 - 11:58 AM ET #8

    A lot of these books are started by clerks who steal a list and think they know more than those who pay them. As long as there are players willing to deposit at a place solely based on a promotion, they will continue to rip off players. Rinse and repeat. Do a search on RDG, never believed they broke with them in the 1st place.
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    A lot of these books are started by clerks who steal a list and think they know more than those who pay them. As long as there are players willing to deposit at a place solely based on a promotion, they will continue to rip off players. Rinse and repeat. Do a search on RDG, never believed they broke with them in the 1st place.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2016 - 8:12 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by slike:

    A lot of these books are started by clerks who steal a list and think they know more than those who pay them. As long as there are players willing to deposit at a place solely based on a promotion, they will continue to rip off players. Rinse and repeat. Do a search on RDG, never believed they broke with them in the 1st place.

    well put 
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    Quote Originally Posted by slike:

    A lot of these books are started by clerks who steal a list and think they know more than those who pay them. As long as there are players willing to deposit at a place solely based on a promotion, they will continue to rip off players. Rinse and repeat. Do a search on RDG, never believed they broke with them in the 1st place.

    well put 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2016 - 10:11 AM ET #10

    book is crap and so are the guys that run it.. had a similar email exchange with these guys regarding an issue..They are just about as unprofessional as you can get..
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    book is crap and so are the guys that run it.. had a similar email exchange with these guys regarding an issue..They are just about as unprofessional as you can get..
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2016 - 4:25 PM ET #11

    I have received numerous payouts from 1vice.  They usually limited me to a nickel/week.  Pain in the rear end when you're carrying a large balance.  They did in fact just run into some financial trouble.  The math behind some of their promos during football season were downright suicide (to the house). America's Bookie has recently taken them under their wing in some sort of partial buyout.  In light of this, they've made majority of their "sharp" customers complete 10x rollovers.  Griffin admits that he F'd up, but I don't think these guys aren't out to screw anyone.  Are these guys crooks?  No.  Are there better/safer places to play?  Absolutely.   
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    I have received numerous payouts from 1vice.  They usually limited me to a nickel/week.  Pain in the rear end when you're carrying a large balance.  They did in fact just run into some financial trouble.  The math behind some of their promos during football season were downright suicide (to the house). America's Bookie has recently taken them under their wing in some sort of partial buyout.  In light of this, they've made majority of their "sharp" customers complete 10x rollovers.  Griffin admits that he F'd up, but I don't think these guys aren't out to screw anyone.  Are these guys crooks?  No.  Are there better/safer places to play?  Absolutely.   
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2016 - 3:05 PM ET #12

    Amateur hour guys, why waste your time and energy on payout limits, when or if I get paid, rollover, blah blah.  Griffin is only nice to you BECAUSE YOU LOSE.  Start winning and the mood swings, trust me, you will be shown the door, or they will find ways to mess with you, take 3 days to pay 400 moneygram, comical issues like that.  .    

    Do you really want this dickhead small timer when you have a dozen better options? 


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    Amateur hour guys, why waste your time and energy on payout limits, when or if I get paid, rollover, blah blah.  Griffin is only nice to you BECAUSE YOU LOSE.  Start winning and the mood swings, trust me, you will be shown the door, or they will find ways to mess with you, take 3 days to pay 400 moneygram, comical issues like that.  .    

    Do you really want this dickhead small timer when you have a dozen better options? 


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