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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2014 - 11:39 AM ET #1

    I'm obviously new at soccer betting. But I had a question on lines. My book has mexico ML at +115. And also mexico -.5 at +125. Aren't these the exact same bet?
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    I'm obviously new at soccer betting. But I had a question on lines. My book has mexico ML at +115. And also mexico -.5 at +125. Aren't these the exact same bet?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2014 - 11:50 AM ET #2

    Quote Originally Posted by Zbballcapper12:

    I'm obviously new at soccer betting. But I had a question on lines. My book has mexico ML at +115. And also mexico -.5 at +125. Aren't these the exact same bet?

    They pretty much are but my book has them both at +115.  The -0.5 is the spread line and obviously Money line is the +115.  Good luck bud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zbballcapper12:

    I'm obviously new at soccer betting. But I had a question on lines. My book has mexico ML at +115. And also mexico -.5 at +125. Aren't these the exact same bet?

    They pretty much are but my book has them both at +115.  The -0.5 is the spread line and obviously Money line is the +115.  Good luck bud.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2014 - 11:55 AM ET #3

    A tie is the difference.

    You bet the ML and a tie gives you a push.

    You bet the -0.5 and a tie gives you a loss.
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    A tie is the difference.

    You bet the ML and a tie gives you a push.

    You bet the -0.5 and a tie gives you a loss.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2014 - 12:03 PM ET #4

    I don't think that's right. There is a draw option on the money line. I believe it's essentially the same bet with different odds.
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    I don't think that's right. There is a draw option on the money line. I believe it's essentially the same bet with different odds.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2014 - 12:05 PM ET #5

    I'm looking at Spain and it's -.5 at -130
    ML for spain is -130 also...

    what the heck??
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    I'm looking at Spain and it's -.5 at -130
    ML for spain is -130 also...

    what the heck??
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2014 - 12:10 PM ET #6

    That's normal! Because it's the same bet, my book seems to be off e
    Because it's different odds ML and -.5
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    That's normal! Because it's the same bet, my book seems to be off e
    Because it's different odds ML and -.5
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2014 - 12:44 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Zbballcapper12:

    I don't think that's right. There is a draw option on the money line. I believe it's essentially the same bet with different odds.


    The draw bet is different. If you bet that one, you need a tie to win.

    To win a -0.5 bet, the team MUST win by 1 or more goals.

    As far as I'm concerned, you can push a ML bet with a tie. Lower odds, lower risk, lower reward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zbballcapper12:

    I don't think that's right. There is a draw option on the money line. I believe it's essentially the same bet with different odds.


    The draw bet is different. If you bet that one, you need a tie to win.

    To win a -0.5 bet, the team MUST win by 1 or more goals.

    As far as I'm concerned, you can push a ML bet with a tie. Lower odds, lower risk, lower reward.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2014 - 12:51 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by weeble5672:



    The draw bet is different. If you bet that one, you need a tie to win.

    To win a -0.5 bet, the team MUST win by 1 or more goals.

    As far as I'm concerned, you can push a ML bet with a tie. Lower odds, lower risk, lower reward.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeble5672:



    The draw bet is different. If you bet that one, you need a tie to win.

    To win a -0.5 bet, the team MUST win by 1 or more goals.

    As far as I'm concerned, you can push a ML bet with a tie. Lower odds, lower risk, lower reward.

     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2014 - 1:01 PM ET #9

    Same bet, book just didn't update their lines properly.  Mine does the same thing all the time, which is why I ALWAYS check the spread line to make sure it's not paying better than the ML.

    But ML and -0.5 are 100% the same in soccer wagering.
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    Same bet, book just didn't update their lines properly.  Mine does the same thing all the time, which is why I ALWAYS check the spread line to make sure it's not paying better than the ML.

    But ML and -0.5 are 100% the same in soccer wagering.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2014 - 1:02 PM ET #10

    I believe you are wrong on this. In soccer you lose on a tie if you bet the moneyline. Looks like I'm not the only soccer betting newb lol
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    I believe you are wrong on this. In soccer you lose on a tie if you bet the moneyline. Looks like I'm not the only soccer betting newb lol
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2014 - 1:02 PM ET #11

    If you bet PK.. PK means if they tie, you get your money back.. if the team you put PK on wins, you win.. 
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    If you bet PK.. PK means if they tie, you get your money back.. if the team you put PK on wins, you win.. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2014 - 1:03 PM ET #12

    Thanks bk1374, just wanted confirmation
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    Thanks bk1374, just wanted confirmation
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2014 - 1:04 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by weeble5672:



    The draw bet is different. If you bet that one, you need a tie to win.

    To win a -0.5 bet, the team MUST win by 1 or more goals.

    As far as I'm concerned, you can push a ML bet with a tie. Lower odds, lower risk, lower reward.

    This is wrong.  ML loses in soccer, assuming there is a draw option, when your team loses.  Pk'em on the other hand, PUSHES on a draw.  Big difference.  

    Trust me, this is coming from someone who has lost PLENTY of ML wagers in soccer when the games ends in a draw.

    OP's case is simply a matter of a book not properly updating their lines.  If the ML would push (making it a "draw no bet") the difference in price would be MUCH more than 10 cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeble5672:



    The draw bet is different. If you bet that one, you need a tie to win.

    To win a -0.5 bet, the team MUST win by 1 or more goals.

    As far as I'm concerned, you can push a ML bet with a tie. Lower odds, lower risk, lower reward.

    This is wrong.  ML loses in soccer, assuming there is a draw option, when your team loses.  Pk'em on the other hand, PUSHES on a draw.  Big difference.  

    Trust me, this is coming from someone who has lost PLENTY of ML wagers in soccer when the games ends in a draw.

    OP's case is simply a matter of a book not properly updating their lines.  If the ML would push (making it a "draw no bet") the difference in price would be MUCH more than 10 cents.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2014 - 2:14 PM ET #14

    Bk is right. The ML loses if it's a draw at end of regulation. The line entends into the 'added' time and you don't automatically lose if it's ited and goes into extra time.
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    Bk is right. The ML loses if it's a draw at end of regulation. The line entends into the 'added' time and you don't automatically lose if it's ited and goes into extra time.
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2014 - 2:31 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by bk1374:


    This is wrong.  ML loses in soccer, assuming there is a draw option, when your team loses.  Pk'em on the other hand, PUSHES on a draw.  Big difference.  

    Trust me, this is coming from someone who has lost PLENTY of ML wagers in soccer when the games ends in a draw.

    OP's case is simply a matter of a book not properly updating their lines.  If the ML would push (making it a "draw no bet") the difference in price would be MUCH more than 10 cents.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bk1374:


    This is wrong.  ML loses in soccer, assuming there is a draw option, when your team loses.  Pk'em on the other hand, PUSHES on a draw.  Big difference.  

    Trust me, this is coming from someone who has lost PLENTY of ML wagers in soccer when the games ends in a draw.

    OP's case is simply a matter of a book not properly updating their lines.  If the ML would push (making it a "draw no bet") the difference in price would be MUCH more than 10 cents.



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