Hawaii and Ohio State* both have the same argument next week. We beat a lot of nobodies and Washington. Hawaii at least beat a ranked team in Boise State. Take some time and look at Ohio State's* schedule when you get a chance. It is awful. In theory, how can you be ranked 2, when you lose to Illinois and beat nobody in the top 25, yet their fans keep screaming about how they belong. It is a sad state of affairs in ColumbUS Ohio. They still think beating Penn State is an accomplishment.
Look im a Bucks fan, i said from the time OSU became #1 i said there only there cause of no losses. They were never truly a #1 team only 3 seniors Tressle overchieved i realize that.
But to say they beat no ranked teams is not true, u have to look at the time they played @Purdue,@Penn St,Wisky,@Mich so take for granted as season went on Purdue and Mich sucked but to say they played no ranked teams is not true they were ranked at the time.
That holds true to anyother team in my eyes, I still say OSU should accept the Rose Bowl now and not go to the Campionship Game if the other 2 teams lose. They lost at home to Illinois next to last game of season at home.
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Quote Originally Posted by canes47:
Hawaii and Ohio State* both have the same argument next week. We beat a lot of nobodies and Washington. Hawaii at least beat a ranked team in Boise State. Take some time and look at Ohio State's* schedule when you get a chance. It is awful. In theory, how can you be ranked 2, when you lose to Illinois and beat nobody in the top 25, yet their fans keep screaming about how they belong. It is a sad state of affairs in ColumbUS Ohio. They still think beating Penn State is an accomplishment.
Look im a Bucks fan, i said from the time OSU became #1 i said there only there cause of no losses. They were never truly a #1 team only 3 seniors Tressle overchieved i realize that.
But to say they beat no ranked teams is not true, u have to look at the time they played @Purdue,@Penn St,Wisky,@Mich so take for granted as season went on Purdue and Mich sucked but to say they played no ranked teams is not true they were ranked at the time.
That holds true to anyother team in my eyes, I still say OSU should accept the Rose Bowl now and not go to the Campionship Game if the other 2 teams lose. They lost at home to Illinois next to last game of season at home.
Bling ,I have to agree, SEC homers and Big 11 homers (ie OHIO ST) are the biggest homers in sports today,you can't have a discussion on any level they are so one sided in there arguements. this year is a perfect example, WVU could beat any sec or Big11 team this year...but try to get one of them to admit it...
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Bling ,I have to agree, SEC homers and Big 11 homers (ie OHIO ST) are the biggest homers in sports today,you can't have a discussion on any level they are so one sided in there arguements. this year is a perfect example, WVU could beat any sec or Big11 team this year...but try to get one of them to admit it...
and I cant stand OSU and have always liked the Bengals but the fact is LSU D is very good but USC has just as good a D as does OSU, PSU and VT.....LSU is not well coached they got fucking lucky just to get to a 2 loss season..its time to put that dog to rest..USC has dominated some very good opp. take away the VT win from LSU and they have really struggled. That being said the HAT is not a great coach and Tressel is....if Michigan hires the Hat the Buckeyes will dominate the Wolverines big time....You cant get the same players in a class room in Ann Arbor as you can sneak in down in Baton Rouge...period.
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and I cant stand OSU and have always liked the Bengals but the fact is LSU D is very good but USC has just as good a D as does OSU, PSU and VT.....LSU is not well coached they got fucking lucky just to get to a 2 loss season..its time to put that dog to rest..USC has dominated some very good opp. take away the VT win from LSU and they have really struggled. That being said the HAT is not a great coach and Tressel is....if Michigan hires the Hat the Buckeyes will dominate the Wolverines big time....You cant get the same players in a class room in Ann Arbor as you can sneak in down in Baton Rouge...period.
Look im a Bucks fan, i said from the time OSU became #1 i said there only there cause of no losses. They were never truly a #1 team only 3 seniors Tressle overchieved i realize that.
But to say they beat no ranked teams is not true, u have to look at the time they played @Purdue,@Penn St,Wisky,@Mich so take for granted as season went on Purdue and Mich sucked but to say they played no ranked teams is not true they were ranked at the time.
That holds true to anyother team in my eyes, I still say OSU should accept the Rose Bowl now and not go to the Campionship Game if the other 2 teams lose. They lost at home to Illinois next to last game of season at home.
Not a big deal here, but my opinion just differs. I go by the finish. Purdue only gets ranked because they play nobody and are 4-0 or whatever. Going by your reasoning, just gives more power to preseason polls and we all know how good they are. The computers take the whole season into account and so should you. OSU* beat nobody that finshed ranked this year.
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Quote Originally Posted by buckeyes54:
Look im a Bucks fan, i said from the time OSU became #1 i said there only there cause of no losses. They were never truly a #1 team only 3 seniors Tressle overchieved i realize that.
But to say they beat no ranked teams is not true, u have to look at the time they played @Purdue,@Penn St,Wisky,@Mich so take for granted as season went on Purdue and Mich sucked but to say they played no ranked teams is not true they were ranked at the time.
That holds true to anyother team in my eyes, I still say OSU should accept the Rose Bowl now and not go to the Campionship Game if the other 2 teams lose. They lost at home to Illinois next to last game of season at home.
Not a big deal here, but my opinion just differs. I go by the finish. Purdue only gets ranked because they play nobody and are 4-0 or whatever. Going by your reasoning, just gives more power to preseason polls and we all know how good they are. The computers take the whole season into account and so should you. OSU* beat nobody that finshed ranked this year.
Saint John is living proof of the extra chromosome. Read his first sentence.
OK, under chromosome moron, I will correct his punctuation and explain it to you for St. John.
"I'll take Arkansas +4, against Ohio St., on the money line ALL DAY LONG." Now what he means is, if Arkansas was at +4 against Ohio State, he would take Arkansas on the money line, which means he would take Arkansas to Win the game straight up. Does he need to draw a picture too?
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Quote Originally Posted by 46and2:
Saint John is living proof of the extra chromosome. Read his first sentence.
OK, under chromosome moron, I will correct his punctuation and explain it to you for St. John.
"I'll take Arkansas +4, against Ohio St., on the money line ALL DAY LONG." Now what he means is, if Arkansas was at +4 against Ohio State, he would take Arkansas on the money line, which means he would take Arkansas to Win the game straight up. Does he need to draw a picture too?
I don't know where to start, 1st Arkansas dominated Wisconsin I watched that game and I still don't understand how they lost. The Big Ten will get owned like every bowl season just look at the lines in every game. They will get points in almost every matchup. The SEC has not had a banner year, they are overall better on all of their worst days than the Little 10
I'll certainly agree with that. Vegas doesn't give a fuck about predicting outcomes. They care about splitting action and winning the vig no matter the outcome. And their are plenty of people as evidenced by this forum that would lay points to NFL teams with SEC teams, so why not make them favorites over the lowly Big 10.
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Quote Originally Posted by erikthedevil:
I don't know where to start, 1st Arkansas dominated Wisconsin I watched that game and I still don't understand how they lost. The Big Ten will get owned like every bowl season just look at the lines in every game. They will get points in almost every matchup. The SEC has not had a banner year, they are overall better on all of their worst days than the Little 10
I'll certainly agree with that. Vegas doesn't give a fuck about predicting outcomes. They care about splitting action and winning the vig no matter the outcome. And their are plenty of people as evidenced by this forum that would lay points to NFL teams with SEC teams, so why not make them favorites over the lowly Big 10.
The Big Ten will get owned like every bowl season just look at the lines in every game.
Perhaps some facts might be in order here:
2006-2007: Big 10 was 2-5
SEC was 6-3
Big 10 was 2-1 vs. SEC
2005-2006: Big 10 was 3-3
SEC was 3-3
Big 10 was 1-1 vs. SEC
2004-2005: Big 10 was 2-3
SEC was 3-3
Big 10 was 1-1 vs. SEC
So the Big 10 had a lousy bowl season last year compared to the SEC. The previous 2 years before that were about dead even. And the head to head over the last 3 years is dead even.
like every bowl season
You mean like LAST YEAR.
I love these people who make blanket statements and who have selective memories.
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The Big Ten will get owned like every bowl season just look at the lines in every game.
Perhaps some facts might be in order here:
2006-2007: Big 10 was 2-5
SEC was 6-3
Big 10 was 2-1 vs. SEC
2005-2006: Big 10 was 3-3
SEC was 3-3
Big 10 was 1-1 vs. SEC
2004-2005: Big 10 was 2-3
SEC was 3-3
Big 10 was 1-1 vs. SEC
So the Big 10 had a lousy bowl season last year compared to the SEC. The previous 2 years before that were about dead even. And the head to head over the last 3 years is dead even.
like every bowl season
You mean like LAST YEAR.
I love these people who make blanket statements and who have selective memories.
Now I know this thread won't be popular because 90% of this forum is SEC homers and/or apologists but....
What is so different from OSU losing to Illinois then LSU losing to Arkansas? Yeah, I know that Ark has one of the best players in the country, but the rest of the team is horrible. Illinois has better players across the board.
Here is objectivity for SEC homers:
Ohio State loses to Illinois - OMG DOES THE BIG 10 SUCK! OVERFUCKENRATED!!!1 HOW COULD THEY LOSE TO ILLINOIS!!! BUNCH OF MEDIOCRE TEAMS!!
LSU losing to Arkansas - FIERCE INTER-CONFERENCE RIVALRY! THESE TWO TEAMS HATE EACH OTHER! THEY BRING THEIR A-GAME EVERY TIME THEY PLAY!
The double standard is amazing. On a neutral field Illinois would manhandle Arkansas just like Wisconsin did last year.
I watched this same arguement with the same words (expicitive's disregarded) on Mike and Mike just 15 minutes before this went up.
I agreed with Greenburg when he mentioned this. The Big Ten was highly overrated this year as opposed to SEC play. This is just one on a laundry list of reasons why this BCS shit needs to go.
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Quote Originally Posted by Bling:
Now I know this thread won't be popular because 90% of this forum is SEC homers and/or apologists but....
What is so different from OSU losing to Illinois then LSU losing to Arkansas? Yeah, I know that Ark has one of the best players in the country, but the rest of the team is horrible. Illinois has better players across the board.
Here is objectivity for SEC homers:
Ohio State loses to Illinois - OMG DOES THE BIG 10 SUCK! OVERFUCKENRATED!!!1 HOW COULD THEY LOSE TO ILLINOIS!!! BUNCH OF MEDIOCRE TEAMS!!
LSU losing to Arkansas - FIERCE INTER-CONFERENCE RIVALRY! THESE TWO TEAMS HATE EACH OTHER! THEY BRING THEIR A-GAME EVERY TIME THEY PLAY!
The double standard is amazing. On a neutral field Illinois would manhandle Arkansas just like Wisconsin did last year.
I watched this same arguement with the same words (expicitive's disregarded) on Mike and Mike just 15 minutes before this went up.
I agreed with Greenburg when he mentioned this. The Big Ten was highly overrated this year as opposed to SEC play. This is just one on a laundry list of reasons why this BCS shit needs to go.
Zook & Illinois are going to upset the status quo in BIG 11....... I can't wait.......
ya look at that iowa game. giving iowa the ball after accepting penalties and burning his ass. whats funny is the stupid ass people who think he'll do anyhting better than a third of fourth place after juice is gone. zooks a straight moron
atlfader
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Quote Originally Posted by AtlFader:
Zook & Illinois are going to upset the status quo in BIG 11....... I can't wait.......
ya look at that iowa game. giving iowa the ball after accepting penalties and burning his ass. whats funny is the stupid ass people who think he'll do anyhting better than a third of fourth place after juice is gone. zooks a straight moron
Take a look at their schedule and accomplishments and tell me why that team is ranked. Beating Michigan at Home????? Michigan sucks!! The entire conference is a joke and the Buckeyes are the biggest one. They haven't beaten a proven team in years. The only thing they have done of note since Tressel got there was outcoach Larry Coker and D up Miami to the point that the game was close enough to allow the officials to get in the way and give it to OSU*. A hot KSU team in 2003 was reasonable, but that is it. The schedule has fallen their way for years. It didn't in Glendale and you saw what happened.
Take a look at their schedule and accomplishments and tell me why that team is ranked. Beating Michigan at Home????? Michigan sucks!! The entire conference is a joke and the Buckeyes are the biggest one. They haven't beaten a proven team in years. The only thing they have done of note since Tressel got there was outcoach Larry Coker and D up Miami to the point that the game was close enough to allow the officials to get in the way and give it to OSU*. A hot KSU team in 2003 was reasonable, but that is it. The schedule has fallen their way for years. It didn't in Glendale and you saw what happened.
Take a look at their schedule and accomplishments and tell me why that team is ranked. Beating Michigan at Home????? Michigan sucks!! The entire conference is a joke and the Buckeyes are the biggest one. They haven't beaten a proven team in years. The only thing they have done of note since Tressel got there was outcoach Larry Coker and D up Miami to the point that the game was close enough to allow the officials to get in the way and give it to OSU*. A hot KSU team in 2003 was reasonable, but that is it. The schedule has fallen their way for years. It didn't in Glendale and you saw what happened.
So first it was OSU didn't have a win over a ranked team. Now it's why is that team ranked. All I do in these threads is state facts to retort the retarted shit that gets posted like your last rant about nothing. Thing is, nothing can be said about the paragraph of ignorance you just assembled. Next time I can provide a fact to refute something you say, I will. But there's a 0% chance I bother responding to Jim Tressell has 1 quality win in his entire OSU tenure cause that quite possibly may be the dumbest thing I've ever read.
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Quote Originally Posted by canes47:
Take a look at their schedule and accomplishments and tell me why that team is ranked. Beating Michigan at Home????? Michigan sucks!! The entire conference is a joke and the Buckeyes are the biggest one. They haven't beaten a proven team in years. The only thing they have done of note since Tressel got there was outcoach Larry Coker and D up Miami to the point that the game was close enough to allow the officials to get in the way and give it to OSU*. A hot KSU team in 2003 was reasonable, but that is it. The schedule has fallen their way for years. It didn't in Glendale and you saw what happened.
So first it was OSU didn't have a win over a ranked team. Now it's why is that team ranked. All I do in these threads is state facts to retort the retarted shit that gets posted like your last rant about nothing. Thing is, nothing can be said about the paragraph of ignorance you just assembled. Next time I can provide a fact to refute something you say, I will. But there's a 0% chance I bother responding to Jim Tressell has 1 quality win in his entire OSU tenure cause that quite possibly may be the dumbest thing I've ever read.
Yeah. Texas deserved that ranking last year. Proved it all year long. Michigan as well. If you were alive, you would understand that continually beating Little 10 teams doesn't prove a thing. Does the Fiesta Bowl ring a bell? You done? Since you know so much about gambling and public opinion, you should realize that you are contradicting yourself when you state that. You are correct about Wisconsin being ranked, I just don't see how. Beating that team is nothing to hang your hat on and Herbstreit said exactly that this afternoon.
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Yeah. Texas deserved that ranking last year. Proved it all year long. Michigan as well. If you were alive, you would understand that continually beating Little 10 teams doesn't prove a thing. Does the Fiesta Bowl ring a bell? You done? Since you know so much about gambling and public opinion, you should realize that you are contradicting yourself when you state that. You are correct about Wisconsin being ranked, I just don't see how. Beating that team is nothing to hang your hat on and Herbstreit said exactly that this afternoon.
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