Let me just start this conversation by saying that I do not at all believe in fixing, but I also don't believe its not possible. Anyway, I don't disagree with you obviously on your main point but this argument just has too many holes.
You can't deny how easy it would be for one player on a team to manipulate a spread. Why would a player care how much his school pocketed? That player might even be paying tuition haha. If you honestly don't plan on having a future in football then why not try to get paid now. A related argument is why would Cam Newton ask to get paid for play now when he's probably going to the NFL. Again there is no clear proof this is true but you also can't disprove it.
All a kicker has to do is show up to the NFL Combine and make 50+ yard field goals and make the 45 yarders with consistency. That's about it.
Quote Originally Posted by dnt_fade_me_bro:
Let me just start this conversation by saying that I do not at all believe in fixing, but I also don't believe its not possible. Anyway, I don't disagree with you obviously on your main point but this argument just has too many holes.
You can't deny how easy it would be for one player on a team to manipulate a spread. Why would a player care how much his school pocketed? That player might even be paying tuition haha. If you honestly don't plan on having a future in football then why not try to get paid now. A related argument is why would Cam Newton ask to get paid for play now when he's probably going to the NFL. Again there is no clear proof this is true but you also can't disprove it.
All a kicker has to do is show up to the NFL Combine and make 50+ yard field goals and make the 45 yarders with consistency. That's about it.
Let me just start this conversation by saying that I do not at all believe in fixing, but I also don't believe its not possible. Anyway, I don't disagree with you obviously on your main point but this argument just has too many holes.
You can't deny how easy it would be for one player on a team to manipulate a spread. Why would a player care how much his school pocketed? That player might even be paying tuition haha. If you honestly don't plan on having a future in football then why not try to get paid now. A related argument is why would Cam Newton ask to get paid for play now when he's probably going to the NFL. Again there is no clear proof this is true but you also can't disprove it.
All a kicker has to do is show up to the NFL Combine and make 50+ yard field goals and make the 45 yarders with consistency. That's about it.
Please tell us more about Cam Newton asking to get paid now. I would love to hear about Cam Newton asking to be paid now.
Do you have any idea about the whole Cam Newton debacle?
Quote Originally Posted by dnt_fade_me_bro:
Let me just start this conversation by saying that I do not at all believe in fixing, but I also don't believe its not possible. Anyway, I don't disagree with you obviously on your main point but this argument just has too many holes.
You can't deny how easy it would be for one player on a team to manipulate a spread. Why would a player care how much his school pocketed? That player might even be paying tuition haha. If you honestly don't plan on having a future in football then why not try to get paid now. A related argument is why would Cam Newton ask to get paid for play now when he's probably going to the NFL. Again there is no clear proof this is true but you also can't disprove it.
All a kicker has to do is show up to the NFL Combine and make 50+ yard field goals and make the 45 yarders with consistency. That's about it.
Please tell us more about Cam Newton asking to get paid now. I would love to hear about Cam Newton asking to be paid now.
Do you have any idea about the whole Cam Newton debacle?
i agree with you syddigs, no reason for the kicker to take money to blow his career... he really messed up... there were alot of questionable calls by the refs though in the second half favoring nevada though...
syddigs, who is the chick in your avatar she is smokin hot
i agree with you syddigs, no reason for the kicker to take money to blow his career... he really messed up... there were alot of questionable calls by the refs though in the second half favoring nevada though...
syddigs, who is the chick in your avatar she is smokin hot
So now we can agree you've gone full blast on the personal insults. Doesn't bother me. I have no interest in the Cam Newton investigation. You'll notice I never said anything about him being innocent or guilty. I honestly don't care either way. Its not like we're talking about steroids here and even then I really wouldn't care.
I even agreed with you in saying that I don't believe in fixing but the mere mention of the possibility seemed to enrage you. Anyway, to address your points....
I never said most teams had a backup kicker. I said that many teams were in need of a backup kicker. If they can get a player that punts and kicks instead of just punts don't you see the advantage? This interest has been openly addressed by a few NFL teams. There are already several kickers that double as punters or punters that double as kickers.
And I said Kyle Brotzman doubles up as a kicker and a punter which is three roles: Free kicker, FG kicker, and Punter.
So now we can agree you've gone full blast on the personal insults. Doesn't bother me. I have no interest in the Cam Newton investigation. You'll notice I never said anything about him being innocent or guilty. I honestly don't care either way. Its not like we're talking about steroids here and even then I really wouldn't care.
I even agreed with you in saying that I don't believe in fixing but the mere mention of the possibility seemed to enrage you. Anyway, to address your points....
I never said most teams had a backup kicker. I said that many teams were in need of a backup kicker. If they can get a player that punts and kicks instead of just punts don't you see the advantage? This interest has been openly addressed by a few NFL teams. There are already several kickers that double as punters or punters that double as kickers.
Why would anyone pay off the kicker in a two TD spread? Boise has run just about everyone off the field. If one is fixing a game, why would he approach the kicker to fix the game when a team is -14? Quite often, the kicker will have very little effect on a game like this as Boise typically scores TD and he is just responsible for kicking extra points. So to the people who think he fixed the game, you are saying that some gambler paid the kicker off and bet hundreds of thousands of dollars on Boise -14 because the kicker might miss a few FG's, which he very well might never have been asked to attempt if Boise kept scoring TD's.
In addition, if you think the kicker fixed the game, then he must be the most accurate kicker in history because the miss at the end of regulation was so close, some of the Boise players thought it was good. It was extremely close. The second kick wasn't even far off. So if he was in on a fix, he is so damn good and accurate, he has the ability to miss by inches and make it look damn close.
This "fix" theory is the stupidest thing I have read here in a long time!
I think the obvious is being ignored here.
Why would anyone pay off the kicker in a two TD spread? Boise has run just about everyone off the field. If one is fixing a game, why would he approach the kicker to fix the game when a team is -14? Quite often, the kicker will have very little effect on a game like this as Boise typically scores TD and he is just responsible for kicking extra points. So to the people who think he fixed the game, you are saying that some gambler paid the kicker off and bet hundreds of thousands of dollars on Boise -14 because the kicker might miss a few FG's, which he very well might never have been asked to attempt if Boise kept scoring TD's.
In addition, if you think the kicker fixed the game, then he must be the most accurate kicker in history because the miss at the end of regulation was so close, some of the Boise players thought it was good. It was extremely close. The second kick wasn't even far off. So if he was in on a fix, he is so damn good and accurate, he has the ability to miss by inches and make it look damn close.
This "fix" theory is the stupidest thing I have read here in a long time!
Why is everyone talking about the 14 point spread and a few thousand dollars? Lets see here, since Boise was -500 on the money line, that means if Vegas had $200,000 bet on the ML on Boise worldwide, they just made $1 MILLION! Brotzmans misses are now relevant!
Why is everyone talking about the 14 point spread and a few thousand dollars? Lets see here, since Boise was -500 on the money line, that means if Vegas had $200,000 bet on the ML on Boise worldwide, they just made $1 MILLION! Brotzmans misses are now relevant!
I MEAN, THINK ABOUT IT! FOR EVERY DOLLAR WAGERED ON BOISE, VEGAS GOT 5 TIMES BACK!!! BOISE HAS WON AND COVERED EVERY 30 POINT SPREAD THIS YEAR! WHO WOULD OF EVER THOUGHT THEY WOULD LOSE OUTRIGHT?
I MEAN, THINK ABOUT IT! FOR EVERY DOLLAR WAGERED ON BOISE, VEGAS GOT 5 TIMES BACK!!! BOISE HAS WON AND COVERED EVERY 30 POINT SPREAD THIS YEAR! WHO WOULD OF EVER THOUGHT THEY WOULD LOSE OUTRIGHT?
people like to give themselves a reason for sucking. after that nba scandal everyone thinks everything is fixed. just ignore the idiots that post that shit
thank you! lol people thought the auburn game was fixed to. i sonr understand how people can say bama meant to throw their biggest game of the year at home i just dont get it.
Quote Originally Posted by komot:
people like to give themselves a reason for sucking. after that nba scandal everyone thinks everything is fixed. just ignore the idiots that post that shit
thank you! lol people thought the auburn game was fixed to. i sonr understand how people can say bama meant to throw their biggest game of the year at home i just dont get it.
Why is everyone talking about the 14 point spread and a few thousand dollars? Lets see here, since Boise was -500 on the money line, that means if Vegas had $200,000 bet on the ML on Boise worldwide, they just made $1 MILLION! Brotzmans misses are now relevant!
-500 on a $200,000 bet is not a million
Quote Originally Posted by efsher:
Why is everyone talking about the 14 point spread and a few thousand dollars? Lets see here, since Boise was -500 on the money line, that means if Vegas had $200,000 bet on the ML on Boise worldwide, they just made $1 MILLION! Brotzmans misses are now relevant!
No disrespect betsunlimited but why doesnt it? If you would of bet $200 on Boise ML you would of lost $1000.00. An accumulation of $200,000 worth of bets on Boise ml would of netted the books a cool $1 million!!
No disrespect betsunlimited but why doesnt it? If you would of bet $200 on Boise ML you would of lost $1000.00. An accumulation of $200,000 worth of bets on Boise ml would of netted the books a cool $1 million!!
missed that goal for the sake of a few thousand from " Vegas ".
Are you people shitting me with this conspiracy bullshit? Do you really think a kid would miss those kicks for a few thousand ( yes, a few thousand ) and cost his school millions, and himself a shitload more because " Vegas got to him "?
Take your losses on the chin you fucking idiot. The kicker and his school had a shitload more to play for than anything " vegas " could have offered him/them.
Take your losses like a man you fucking dipshits!
Amen, Syd. Let's see...Boise defense blows a 17 pt. halftime lead giving up 239 yds rushing in the 2nd half. I don't believe the Boise kicker had anything to do with that. Unfortunately, that kid is taking all the heat for a total defensive collapse. Trust me...that poor kid is hurting one hell of a lot more than anybody's pocketbook right now and would take those kicks back in a heartbeat.
Quote Originally Posted by Syddigs:
missed that goal for the sake of a few thousand from " Vegas ".
Are you people shitting me with this conspiracy bullshit? Do you really think a kid would miss those kicks for a few thousand ( yes, a few thousand ) and cost his school millions, and himself a shitload more because " Vegas got to him "?
Take your losses on the chin you fucking idiot. The kicker and his school had a shitload more to play for than anything " vegas " could have offered him/them.
Take your losses like a man you fucking dipshits!
Amen, Syd. Let's see...Boise defense blows a 17 pt. halftime lead giving up 239 yds rushing in the 2nd half. I don't believe the Boise kicker had anything to do with that. Unfortunately, that kid is taking all the heat for a total defensive collapse. Trust me...that poor kid is hurting one hell of a lot more than anybody's pocketbook right now and would take those kicks back in a heartbeat.
the game was fixed get over it... it happens all the time and its pretty ironic that a pretty reliable kicker misses 2 easy fg's in VEGAS... give me $10k and i would miss a few chip shots too and im sure theres alot of people that would do the same
the game was fixed get over it... it happens all the time and its pretty ironic that a pretty reliable kicker misses 2 easy fg's in VEGAS... give me $10k and i would miss a few chip shots too and im sure theres alot of people that would do the same
I NEVER SAID THE GAME WAS FIXED, BUT THINK ABOUT THIS: THE OVER UNDER WAS 68, THE ONLY WAY THAT GAME GOES NEVADA OUTRIGHT AND UNDER WAS FOR BROTZMAN TO MISS BOTH KICKS! FINAL SCORE 34-31 NEVADA. NEVADA DIDNT SEEM TO ME TO WANT TO SCORE A TD AT THE END EITHER, THAT WOULD OF MADE THE FINAL SCORE 37-31, THATS 68 POINTS. IF BROTZMAN MAKES THE OT KICK, THAT MAKES IT 34-31 BOISE, THEN NEVADA TIES IT 34-34 , THATS 68 POINTS ALSO AND THEY GO TO A 2ND OT! WAKE UP AMERICA!! LOL
I NEVER SAID THE GAME WAS FIXED, BUT THINK ABOUT THIS: THE OVER UNDER WAS 68, THE ONLY WAY THAT GAME GOES NEVADA OUTRIGHT AND UNDER WAS FOR BROTZMAN TO MISS BOTH KICKS! FINAL SCORE 34-31 NEVADA. NEVADA DIDNT SEEM TO ME TO WANT TO SCORE A TD AT THE END EITHER, THAT WOULD OF MADE THE FINAL SCORE 37-31, THATS 68 POINTS. IF BROTZMAN MAKES THE OT KICK, THAT MAKES IT 34-31 BOISE, THEN NEVADA TIES IT 34-34 , THATS 68 POINTS ALSO AND THEY GO TO A 2ND OT! WAKE UP AMERICA!! LOL
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