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    Texas Tech @ Oklahoma - Week 13

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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2008 - 11:36 PM ET #26

    At first I was going to unload on Oklahoma but for some reason I'm thinking TT wins this game.
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    At first I was going to unload on Oklahoma but for some reason I'm thinking TT wins this game.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2008 - 11:36 PM ET #27

    This game will probably take me all week to cap.  Its going to be a blast to watch.  It would take brass balls to play the under in this game.  Oklahoma is an absolute machine at home, and while I'm inclined to lay the points now I am going to hold off before viewing a few more angles.

    Betting an under in an Oklahoma game is heart attack inducing if one watches the game.  This is going to be a beauty.
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    This game will probably take me all week to cap.  Its going to be a blast to watch.  It would take brass balls to play the under in this game.  Oklahoma is an absolute machine at home, and while I'm inclined to lay the points now I am going to hold off before viewing a few more angles.

    Betting an under in an Oklahoma game is heart attack inducing if one watches the game.  This is going to be a beauty.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2008 - 11:41 PM ET #28

    Oklahoma is gonna be in a TON of teasers.
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 12:14 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    If Oklahoma went instead of Texas, then they would need to drop the BSC right on the spot.
     
    what would you think if Texas went ahead of Tech (assumes tech would lose to OU)?


    Texas beat OU going away.

    Texas played like shit after beating 3 top 11 teams in a row and still only lost to Tech on essentially the final play of the game.

    Texas going over Tech would bother NO ONE outside lubbock.  If OU wins, its a done deal Tech would be out of the picture.

    And the fact of the matter is, Tech is and almost certainly always will be percieved as a gimmick offense, true or not; Texas is perceived as among the top ten elite programs of all time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    If Oklahoma went instead of Texas, then they would need to drop the BSC right on the spot.
     
    what would you think if Texas went ahead of Tech (assumes tech would lose to OU)?


    Texas beat OU going away.

    Texas played like shit after beating 3 top 11 teams in a row and still only lost to Tech on essentially the final play of the game.

    Texas going over Tech would bother NO ONE outside lubbock.  If OU wins, its a done deal Tech would be out of the picture.

    And the fact of the matter is, Tech is and almost certainly always will be percieved as a gimmick offense, true or not; Texas is perceived as among the top ten elite programs of all time.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 12:23 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by MIB:

    Oklahoma is gonna be in a TON of teasers.

    How can you not take TT +14. 14 points with a team that can prolly win outright. Texas beat OU, TT beat Texas, therefore TT beats OU. Simple

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIB:

    Oklahoma is gonna be in a TON of teasers.

    How can you not take TT +14. 14 points with a team that can prolly win outright. Texas beat OU, TT beat Texas, therefore TT beats OU. Simple

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 12:36 AM ET #31

    Oklahoma realizes this is their 2nd chance to get a possibility at the national championship.

    Oklahoma wins by 2 TD's.
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    Oklahoma realizes this is their 2nd chance to get a possibility at the national championship.

    Oklahoma wins by 2 TD's.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 12:39 AM ET #32

    Texas Tech
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 1:22 AM ET #33

    no love for texas tech?

    damn't i'm on oklahoma too. lets get em!
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    no love for texas tech?

    damn't i'm on oklahoma too. lets get em!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 2:32 AM ET #34

    Leroy-Bombers... gotta warn you... CFB rarely works out that "simply" as you say...
     
    however... gotta think TT is the only play... Michael Crabtree is one of the best college WR's i  have ever seen... he is without a doubt the top player in CFB, and unless some NFL GM is a complete idiot, he is a lock to go first in the draft... and yet he is likely going to lose the Heisman to someone on his OWN TEAM...
     
    the OU defense has been ugly against all respectable opponents... i can't imagine for one second TT doesn't score AT LEAST 35 in this game... and honestly, i see them putting up 42+... TT shouldn't ever have to punt against that defense... if Tech can stop OU just a handful of times, that will be enough to win it outright...
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    Leroy-Bombers... gotta warn you... CFB rarely works out that "simply" as you say...
     
    however... gotta think TT is the only play... Michael Crabtree is one of the best college WR's i  have ever seen... he is without a doubt the top player in CFB, and unless some NFL GM is a complete idiot, he is a lock to go first in the draft... and yet he is likely going to lose the Heisman to someone on his OWN TEAM...
     
    the OU defense has been ugly against all respectable opponents... i can't imagine for one second TT doesn't score AT LEAST 35 in this game... and honestly, i see them putting up 42+... TT shouldn't ever have to punt against that defense... if Tech can stop OU just a handful of times, that will be enough to win it outright...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 3:25 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedj:

     

    If Oklahoma went instead of Texas, then they would need to drop the BSC right on the spot. 

     

    Don't be dumb now, looking at something from just one way.  According to you... you want to send Texas instead of Texas Tech (who they lost  to).  Thats the point of a tie breaker - they need some method to break up a 3 way tie.... and highest BCS ranking is fine.  Or maybe, you just wanted to break up the BSC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedj:

     

    If Oklahoma went instead of Texas, then they would need to drop the BSC right on the spot. 

     

    Don't be dumb now, looking at something from just one way.  According to you... you want to send Texas instead of Texas Tech (who they lost  to).  Thats the point of a tie breaker - they need some method to break up a 3 way tie.... and highest BCS ranking is fine.  Or maybe, you just wanted to break up the BSC.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 3:31 AM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by Mazdaspeed:



    Texas played like shit after beating 3 top 11 teams in a row and still only lost to Tech on essentially the final play of the game.

     

    If TT loses, it would be after beating 3 top 19 teams in a row.... So its not a major difference.  Also, TT's loss would be on the road - while Texas' was at a netural site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazdaspeed:



    Texas played like shit after beating 3 top 11 teams in a row and still only lost to Tech on essentially the final play of the game.

     

    If TT loses, it would be after beating 3 top 19 teams in a row.... So its not a major difference.  Also, TT's loss would be on the road - while Texas' was at a netural site.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 4:08 AM ET #37

    one difference between Texas' 3 game stretch and Tech's 3 game stretch is the bye week... i know OU is coming off the bye, just making the point that Texas had to sustain the emotion 3 weeks in a row, whereas Tech gets a bye to regather their emotion...
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    one difference between Texas' 3 game stretch and Tech's 3 game stretch is the bye week... i know OU is coming off the bye, just making the point that Texas had to sustain the emotion 3 weeks in a row, whereas Tech gets a bye to regather their emotion...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 7:41 AM ET #38

    home puppies, last i checked texas' loss wasn't at a neutral site, it was in lubbock
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    home puppies, last i checked texas' loss wasn't at a neutral site, it was in lubbock
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 10:52 AM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by PlacinUnits:

    If Oklahoma wins this game...who goes to the Big 12 championship?

    Texas, Oklahoma, or Texas Tech?

    I think it would be Texas at that point.

    Placin - whoever is highest ranked in the BCS

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlacinUnits:

    If Oklahoma wins this game...who goes to the Big 12 championship?

    Texas, Oklahoma, or Texas Tech?

    I think it would be Texas at that point.

    Placin - whoever is highest ranked in the BCS

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 11:18 AM ET #40

    Vegas is BEGGING us to take TT + the points...therefore I will go with the Sooners, but will go ahead and jump in now at 6.5 for a bunch and hope for a chance at a middle if it gets to 7.5 or 8...
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    Vegas is BEGGING us to take TT + the points...therefore I will go with the Sooners, but will go ahead and jump in now at 6.5 for a bunch and hope for a chance at a middle if it gets to 7.5 or 8...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 12:16 PM ET #41

    TT Outright win big
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 1:13 PM ET #42

    The question in this game is who's defense has a better chance at stopping the other teams offense.    If you review the stats:
     
    Tech: 22.2 PPG, 107 Rushing (3.4avg) and 62.3% for 244 passing
    Okla: 23.6 PPG, 107 Rushing (3.2avg) and 52.7% for 238 passing
     
    Now lets look at some common opponents:
     
    Kansas:  TT allowed 315/161r/154p (at KU) while OU allowed 491/134/357 at OU
    KSt: TT allowed 296/113r/183p while OU allowed 550/64r/486p both at KSt
    Texas: TT allowed 374/80/294 at TT while OU allowed 438/161/277 in Dallas
     
    From an OU perspective, all of these games were played without LB Ryan Reynolds (half of UT game - note after he left Texas dominated).    Heart and soul of their defense.   While the Sooners did some stat padding in recent weeks against Nebraska and A&M, Tech got battle hardened against Texas and OSU.   
     
    I believe Tech will be able to protect Harrell.  They have all season.  So that leaves the youngish OU secondary to cover too many Tech weapons.   Likely they will try to double Crabtree which will leave man or LB coverage on other receivers.   Could be big trouble for OU. 
     
    I believe this game will come down to who gets out in front first.   Tech has not been behind in a game all season (other than Texas game in last minute and we know what happened there).    OU gave up a lead to Texas with shoddy special teams play (A&M also had over 200 return yards against them) and suspect secondary play.
     
    In my opinion this game should be OU -1 or -2 at most if not a Pick'em.    I see Tech jumping out early and holding on at the end for a close win. 
     
    TT 42 - OU 38
     
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    The question in this game is who's defense has a better chance at stopping the other teams offense.    If you review the stats:
     
    Tech: 22.2 PPG, 107 Rushing (3.4avg) and 62.3% for 244 passing
    Okla: 23.6 PPG, 107 Rushing (3.2avg) and 52.7% for 238 passing
     
    Now lets look at some common opponents:
     
    Kansas:  TT allowed 315/161r/154p (at KU) while OU allowed 491/134/357 at OU
    KSt: TT allowed 296/113r/183p while OU allowed 550/64r/486p both at KSt
    Texas: TT allowed 374/80/294 at TT while OU allowed 438/161/277 in Dallas
     
    From an OU perspective, all of these games were played without LB Ryan Reynolds (half of UT game - note after he left Texas dominated).    Heart and soul of their defense.   While the Sooners did some stat padding in recent weeks against Nebraska and A&M, Tech got battle hardened against Texas and OSU.   
     
    I believe Tech will be able to protect Harrell.  They have all season.  So that leaves the youngish OU secondary to cover too many Tech weapons.   Likely they will try to double Crabtree which will leave man or LB coverage on other receivers.   Could be big trouble for OU. 
     
    I believe this game will come down to who gets out in front first.   Tech has not been behind in a game all season (other than Texas game in last minute and we know what happened there).    OU gave up a lead to Texas with shoddy special teams play (A&M also had over 200 return yards against them) and suspect secondary play.
     
    In my opinion this game should be OU -1 or -2 at most if not a Pick'em.    I see Tech jumping out early and holding on at the end for a close win. 
     
    TT 42 - OU 38
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 1:40 PM ET #43

    if OKL wins TX goes since they are ranked higher in the BCS rankings to Big 12 championship.  I can live with that as TX defeated OKL.  similarly, if 'bama loses to FL, gators go to BCS championship and good old USC gets left out.  too bad, but that is what happens after you lose to an unranked Or. St. team.  TX vs FL,  wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    USC vs TX T. or OKL very attractive matchup, then Utah vs Ohio St. or Penn St. vs Or. St.  Boise St against any others like MO or 'bama or OKL.
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    if OKL wins TX goes since they are ranked higher in the BCS rankings to Big 12 championship.  I can live with that as TX defeated OKL.  similarly, if 'bama loses to FL, gators go to BCS championship and good old USC gets left out.  too bad, but that is what happens after you lose to an unranked Or. St. team.  TX vs FL,  wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    USC vs TX T. or OKL very attractive matchup, then Utah vs Ohio St. or Penn St. vs Or. St.  Boise St against any others like MO or 'bama or OKL.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 1:47 PM ET #44

    This reminds me of the Texas-OU game when everyone said pound OU. You were wrong then and you are wrong now. I am a big Texas fan but Tech will beat OU in Norman Saturday and go on to play Florida for the National Championship.
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    This reminds me of the Texas-OU game when everyone said pound OU. You were wrong then and you are wrong now. I am a big Texas fan but Tech will beat OU in Norman Saturday and go on to play Florida for the National Championship.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 1:56 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by manifesto:

    The question in this game is who's defense has a better chance at stopping the other teams offense.    If you review the stats:
     
    Tech: 22.2 PPG, 107 Rushing (3.4avg) and 62.3% for 244 passing
    Okla: 23.6 PPG, 107 Rushing (3.2avg) and 52.7% for 238 passing
     
    Now lets look at some common opponents:
     
    Kansas:  TT allowed 315/161r/154p (at KU) while OU allowed 491/134/357 at OU
    KSt: TT allowed 296/113r/183p while OU allowed 550/64r/486p both at KSt
    Texas: TT allowed 374/80/294 at TT while OU allowed 438/161/277 in Dallas
     
    From an OU perspective, all of these games were played without LB Ryan Reynolds (half of UT game - note after he left Texas dominated).    Heart and soul of their defense.   While the Sooners did some stat padding in recent weeks against Nebraska and A&M, Tech got battle hardened against Texas and OSU.   
     
    I believe Tech will be able to protect Harrell.  They have all season.  So that leaves the youngish OU secondary to cover too many Tech weapons.   Likely they will try to double Crabtree which will leave man or LB coverage on other receivers.   Could be big trouble for OU. 
     
    I believe this game will come down to who gets out in front first.   Tech has not been behind in a game all season (other than Texas game in last minute and we know what happened there).    OU gave up a lead to Texas with shoddy special teams play (A&M also had over 200 return yards against them) and suspect secondary play.
     
    In my opinion this game should be OU -1 or -2 at most if not a Pick'em.    I see Tech jumping out early and holding on at the end for a close win. 
     
    TT 42 - OU 38
     

    Do you know how many games OU has lost at home since Bob Stoops has been there 2 and one of them was a last second score. If anyone knows anything about Tech and OU is that OU OWNS Tech; the only win Tech has in the last years is when OU got hosed at Tech. Everyone keeps talking about Tech's offense and Harrell; Bradford is the better qb and it will show when he goes much higher in the draft. Tech defense is going to get absolutely shredded. Look at Tech schedule; they beat OSU and Texas AT HOME; going on the road is COMPLETELY different. Tech is one dimensional just like always and Stoops AT HOME with 2 weeks to prepare spells blowout. OU would be number one is scoring if they didnt score over 50 every first half then just run the ball the rest of the game and as far as Reynolds being out. OU's defense in a big game will be more than ready to stop Tech. And to think OU will only score 38 against Tech's pathetic defense; do you know remember the Nebraska game; they almost got beat at home in overtime; they were lucky to win that game and you saw what OU did to Nebraska; they scored as much as Tech did in the first qtr. Anyone on Tech needs to go back and look at history. OU owns Tech even at Tech OU owns Tech. Also the guy from the BCS recently said that if OU beats Tech and OSU which the OSU game is probably a loss for OU; that those two games carry much more weight and OU would jump in the BCS over Texas. Good luck to you guys on Tech but if you think Tech has any chance of stopping OU's offense in Norman you are living in a dreamworld.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manifesto:

    The question in this game is who's defense has a better chance at stopping the other teams offense.    If you review the stats:
     
    Tech: 22.2 PPG, 107 Rushing (3.4avg) and 62.3% for 244 passing
    Okla: 23.6 PPG, 107 Rushing (3.2avg) and 52.7% for 238 passing
     
    Now lets look at some common opponents:
     
    Kansas:  TT allowed 315/161r/154p (at KU) while OU allowed 491/134/357 at OU
    KSt: TT allowed 296/113r/183p while OU allowed 550/64r/486p both at KSt
    Texas: TT allowed 374/80/294 at TT while OU allowed 438/161/277 in Dallas
     
    From an OU perspective, all of these games were played without LB Ryan Reynolds (half of UT game - note after he left Texas dominated).    Heart and soul of their defense.   While the Sooners did some stat padding in recent weeks against Nebraska and A&M, Tech got battle hardened against Texas and OSU.   
     
    I believe Tech will be able to protect Harrell.  They have all season.  So that leaves the youngish OU secondary to cover too many Tech weapons.   Likely they will try to double Crabtree which will leave man or LB coverage on other receivers.   Could be big trouble for OU. 
     
    I believe this game will come down to who gets out in front first.   Tech has not been behind in a game all season (other than Texas game in last minute and we know what happened there).    OU gave up a lead to Texas with shoddy special teams play (A&M also had over 200 return yards against them) and suspect secondary play.
     
    In my opinion this game should be OU -1 or -2 at most if not a Pick'em.    I see Tech jumping out early and holding on at the end for a close win. 
     
    TT 42 - OU 38
     

    Do you know how many games OU has lost at home since Bob Stoops has been there 2 and one of them was a last second score. If anyone knows anything about Tech and OU is that OU OWNS Tech; the only win Tech has in the last years is when OU got hosed at Tech. Everyone keeps talking about Tech's offense and Harrell; Bradford is the better qb and it will show when he goes much higher in the draft. Tech defense is going to get absolutely shredded. Look at Tech schedule; they beat OSU and Texas AT HOME; going on the road is COMPLETELY different. Tech is one dimensional just like always and Stoops AT HOME with 2 weeks to prepare spells blowout. OU would be number one is scoring if they didnt score over 50 every first half then just run the ball the rest of the game and as far as Reynolds being out. OU's defense in a big game will be more than ready to stop Tech. And to think OU will only score 38 against Tech's pathetic defense; do you know remember the Nebraska game; they almost got beat at home in overtime; they were lucky to win that game and you saw what OU did to Nebraska; they scored as much as Tech did in the first qtr. Anyone on Tech needs to go back and look at history. OU owns Tech even at Tech OU owns Tech. Also the guy from the BCS recently said that if OU beats Tech and OSU which the OSU game is probably a loss for OU; that those two games carry much more weight and OU would jump in the BCS over Texas. Good luck to you guys on Tech but if you think Tech has any chance of stopping OU's offense in Norman you are living in a dreamworld.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 2:03 PM ET #46

    Also manifesto your common opponents stats are about the most retarded thing I have seen on this site. Did you watch the Kstate/OU game; OU scored over 50 in the first half; they could have scored over 100; so to sit there and talk about meaningless stats in a game that was over at halftime makes absolutely no sense. As far as the Texas game that was on a neutral field; Tech was lucky to even win AT HOME against Texas so those stats mean nothing as well. Let me give you a lesson in college football. HOME FIELD MEANS EVERYTHING!!! That is why its a joke Florida is in the top 5 when they lost to a four loss team at home. If you lose at home you dont deserve to play for a NC period.
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    Also manifesto your common opponents stats are about the most retarded thing I have seen on this site. Did you watch the Kstate/OU game; OU scored over 50 in the first half; they could have scored over 100; so to sit there and talk about meaningless stats in a game that was over at halftime makes absolutely no sense. As far as the Texas game that was on a neutral field; Tech was lucky to even win AT HOME against Texas so those stats mean nothing as well. Let me give you a lesson in college football. HOME FIELD MEANS EVERYTHING!!! That is why its a joke Florida is in the top 5 when they lost to a four loss team at home. If you lose at home you dont deserve to play for a NC period.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy-Bombers:

    How can you not take TT +14. 14 points with a team that can prolly win outright. Texas beat OU, TT beat Texas, therefore TT beats OU. Simple

    My point was this. Books know that people will be pounding OU and putting them in a ton of teasers because it looks so damn easy. Not so fast, the books aren't stupid as we know. TT wins this game SU and books get paid!! Thats what I was saying in a  nutshell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy-Bombers:

    How can you not take TT +14. 14 points with a team that can prolly win outright. Texas beat OU, TT beat Texas, therefore TT beats OU. Simple

    My point was this. Books know that people will be pounding OU and putting them in a ton of teasers because it looks so damn easy. Not so fast, the books aren't stupid as we know. TT wins this game SU and books get paid!! Thats what I was saying in a  nutshell.

     
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    I'm taking the nation's #1 passing offense vs a porous Sooner secondary giving up 238 ypg.  That's good for 94th in the land and has me taking the Red Raiders and the points.
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    I'm taking the nation's #1 passing offense vs a porous Sooner secondary giving up 238 ypg.  That's good for 94th in the land and has me taking the Red Raiders and the points.
     
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    I'm more than likely staying away from this game.  I have been thinking about it for weeks and swapped back and forth from TT and OU.  

    I'm going with OU
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    I'm more than likely staying away from this game.  I have been thinking about it for weeks and swapped back and forth from TT and OU.  

    I'm going with OU
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by trichardson:

    Also manifesto your common opponents stats are about the most retarded thing I have seen on this site. Did you watch the Kstate/OU game; OU scored over 50 in the first half; they could have scored over 100; so to sit there and talk about meaningless stats in a game that was over at halftime makes absolutely no sense. As far as the Texas game that was on a neutral field; Tech was lucky to even win AT HOME against Texas so those stats mean nothing as well. Let me give you a lesson in college football. HOME FIELD MEANS EVERYTHING!!! That is why its a joke Florida is in the top 5 when they lost to a four loss team at home. If you lose at home you dont deserve to play for a NC period.

    trich - I am aware of Stoops record at home and how poorly Tech has played there.   History would definitely point to an OU romp.  But this is a different year and a differnt Tech team.   We will see on Saturday.    And I am glad you bring up Florida - best team in the country right now by far and they lost at home in arguably one of the most difficult places to play for an opposing team.   Anything can happen on any given Saturday, even to the best teams.    Tech and OU play at Norman and OU would probably win 7 or 8 out of 10.   But it aint gonna happen Saturday chief.   And thanks for the lesson....

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    Also manifesto your common opponents stats are about the most retarded thing I have seen on this site. Did you watch the Kstate/OU game; OU scored over 50 in the first half; they could have scored over 100; so to sit there and talk about meaningless stats in a game that was over at halftime makes absolutely no sense. As far as the Texas game that was on a neutral field; Tech was lucky to even win AT HOME against Texas so those stats mean nothing as well. Let me give you a lesson in college football. HOME FIELD MEANS EVERYTHING!!! That is why its a joke Florida is in the top 5 when they lost to a four loss team at home. If you lose at home you dont deserve to play for a NC period.

    trich - I am aware of Stoops record at home and how poorly Tech has played there.   History would definitely point to an OU romp.  But this is a different year and a differnt Tech team.   We will see on Saturday.    And I am glad you bring up Florida - best team in the country right now by far and they lost at home in arguably one of the most difficult places to play for an opposing team.   Anything can happen on any given Saturday, even to the best teams.    Tech and OU play at Norman and OU would probably win 7 or 8 out of 10.   But it aint gonna happen Saturday chief.   And thanks for the lesson....

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