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STRATEGY TO BET EVERY BOWL GAME

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JaCampbe
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Posted: Dec. 20, 2012 - 7:00 PM ET #51

so far this "strategy" is 2-0 for the two bowl games this yr. you guys dont really need me around to make the call. no crazy "computer system" or analysis.. 
Just an obviously easy yet interesting idea.

byu/sdsu UNDER 23

good luck to all, and to all a good night 
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so far this "strategy" is 2-0 for the two bowl games this yr. you guys dont really need me around to make the call. no crazy "computer system" or analysis.. 
Just an obviously easy yet interesting idea.

byu/sdsu UNDER 23

good luck to all, and to all a good night 
 
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Posted: Dec. 21, 2012 - 6:17 PM ET #52

Quote Originally Posted by JaCampbe:

This wasnt originally posted by me.. found it somewhere else but wanted to share.

Hey everyone.  Check this out.  Last season I decided to play 1H unders in all bowl games.  What I found out was that I was 19-15.  Big whoop right, that's only +2.5 units.  Well, I started digging further.  December, the 1H unders were 16-7, in January, they were 3-8.  

 

Not satisfied, I took it a step further.  I looked at the 2H unders.  I found out that games that went over the 1H total, mostly went under the 2H total.  So, here's the gist, if you play 1H under and win, great.  If you play the 1H under and lose 1 unit, then play the 2H under for 2.1 units.  If you did this last year, you would have been 32-2 for 25.4 units.  That's a little insane.

 

The two losses to this "system" last year was Baylor/Washington which had 59 and 64 points in each half and NC St/Louiville which hit the 2H over by a point.  I looked back at 2010-11 bowl games.  That season yielded a 28-7 record for 4.8 units.  2011-12 was too perfect, I wouldn't expect it continue.  The breakeven point on this system is 27 wins and 8 losses.  For each win, you cash a unit, for each loss, you'd lose about 3.3 units.  Of course, you could modify it to win less profit with the 2H under if you wish or bail on 2H depending on how the game is going.  Shootouts like the Baylor/Washington game might need to be avoided.  


hope this helps us to be profitable over the holidays 


With all due respect, you do realize how flawed the math and stats are in this right?

You guys are gonna get burned if you keep doing this!!! Be very careful!!!
There is NEVER, let me repeat NEVER, a system that beats the books as simple as taking an over/under.

Furthermore, as you mentioned last year in December it was 16-7
January 3-8

TOTAL = 19-11  (not sure where 19-15 came from??)

So with 15 first half losses(19-15 record) how in the hell do you get 32-2???  LOL

Your win/loss will be prob about 60% with units only doubled ONLY if your 2nd half wins. depending on how many games hit in 2nd half
Those games where both 1st half & 2nd half loses you are now down 3 units.   

Based on that, you would need to hit 3 straight 1 half plays to get back to even.  Or a 1st half loss (now -4 units) with a 2nd half win (+2 units for total of -2 units overall).

I AM SIMPLY TRYING TO PROTECT PEOPLE!  THE MATH DOESN'T ADD UP!!

I've been capping a long time, this is fools gold with stats and numbers that fall short from being realistic.




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Quote Originally Posted by JaCampbe:

This wasnt originally posted by me.. found it somewhere else but wanted to share.

Hey everyone.  Check this out.  Last season I decided to play 1H unders in all bowl games.  What I found out was that I was 19-15.  Big whoop right, that's only +2.5 units.  Well, I started digging further.  December, the 1H unders were 16-7, in January, they were 3-8.  

 

Not satisfied, I took it a step further.  I looked at the 2H unders.  I found out that games that went over the 1H total, mostly went under the 2H total.  So, here's the gist, if you play 1H under and win, great.  If you play the 1H under and lose 1 unit, then play the 2H under for 2.1 units.  If you did this last year, you would have been 32-2 for 25.4 units.  That's a little insane.

 

The two losses to this "system" last year was Baylor/Washington which had 59 and 64 points in each half and NC St/Louiville which hit the 2H over by a point.  I looked back at 2010-11 bowl games.  That season yielded a 28-7 record for 4.8 units.  2011-12 was too perfect, I wouldn't expect it continue.  The breakeven point on this system is 27 wins and 8 losses.  For each win, you cash a unit, for each loss, you'd lose about 3.3 units.  Of course, you could modify it to win less profit with the 2H under if you wish or bail on 2H depending on how the game is going.  Shootouts like the Baylor/Washington game might need to be avoided.  


hope this helps us to be profitable over the holidays 


With all due respect, you do realize how flawed the math and stats are in this right?

You guys are gonna get burned if you keep doing this!!! Be very careful!!!
There is NEVER, let me repeat NEVER, a system that beats the books as simple as taking an over/under.

Furthermore, as you mentioned last year in December it was 16-7
January 3-8

TOTAL = 19-11  (not sure where 19-15 came from??)

So with 15 first half losses(19-15 record) how in the hell do you get 32-2???  LOL

Your win/loss will be prob about 60% with units only doubled ONLY if your 2nd half wins. depending on how many games hit in 2nd half
Those games where both 1st half & 2nd half loses you are now down 3 units.   

Based on that, you would need to hit 3 straight 1 half plays to get back to even.  Or a 1st half loss (now -4 units) with a 2nd half win (+2 units for total of -2 units overall).

I AM SIMPLY TRYING TO PROTECT PEOPLE!  THE MATH DOESN'T ADD UP!!

I've been capping a long time, this is fools gold with stats and numbers that fall short from being realistic.




 
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Posted: Dec. 21, 2012 - 6:27 PM ET #53

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Posted: Dec. 21, 2012 - 6:35 PM ET #54

[Quote: Originally Posted by TheWiseOneSix3]

With all due respect, you do realize how flawed the math and stats are in this right?

You guys are gonna get burned if you keep doing this!!! Be very careful!!!
There is NEVER, let me repeat NEVER, a system that beats the books as simple as taking an over/under.

Furthermore, as you mentioned last year in December it was 16-7
January 3-8

TOTAL = 19-11  (not sure where 19-15 came from??)

So with 15 first half losses(19-15 record) how in the hell do you get 32-2???  LOL

Your win/loss will be prob about 60% with units only doubled ONLY if your 2nd half wins. depending on how many games hit in 2nd half
Those games where both 1st half & 2nd half loses you are now down 3 units.   

Based on that, you would need to hit 3 straight 1 half plays to get back to even.  Or a 1st half loss (now -4 units) with a 2nd half win (+2 units for total of -2 units overall).

I AM SIMPLY TRYING TO PROTECT PEOPLE!  THE MATH DOESN'T ADD UP!!

I've been capping a long time, this is fools gold with stats and numbers that fall short from being realistic.

Uhmmm...are you sure you know how to add??
How is 16+3(19) and 7+8(15) equal 19-11??
I am not saying a word about the actual "system", as it is up to each individual to come up with their own strategy for betting, but it is hard to take your mathematical opinion seriously when you cannot do simple arithmetic...GLTA. 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by TheWiseOneSix3]

With all due respect, you do realize how flawed the math and stats are in this right?

You guys are gonna get burned if you keep doing this!!! Be very careful!!!
There is NEVER, let me repeat NEVER, a system that beats the books as simple as taking an over/under.

Furthermore, as you mentioned last year in December it was 16-7
January 3-8

TOTAL = 19-11  (not sure where 19-15 came from??)

So with 15 first half losses(19-15 record) how in the hell do you get 32-2???  LOL

Your win/loss will be prob about 60% with units only doubled ONLY if your 2nd half wins. depending on how many games hit in 2nd half
Those games where both 1st half & 2nd half loses you are now down 3 units.   

Based on that, you would need to hit 3 straight 1 half plays to get back to even.  Or a 1st half loss (now -4 units) with a 2nd half win (+2 units for total of -2 units overall).

I AM SIMPLY TRYING TO PROTECT PEOPLE!  THE MATH DOESN'T ADD UP!!

I've been capping a long time, this is fools gold with stats and numbers that fall short from being realistic.

Uhmmm...are you sure you know how to add??
How is 16+3(19) and 7+8(15) equal 19-11??
I am not saying a word about the actual "system", as it is up to each individual to come up with their own strategy for betting, but it is hard to take your mathematical opinion seriously when you cannot do simple arithmetic...GLTA. 
 
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With all due respect, you do realize how flawed the math and stats are in this right?

You guys are gonna get burned if you keep doing this!!! Be very careful!!!
There is NEVER, let me repeat NEVER, a system that beats the books as simple as taking an over/under.

Furthermore, as you mentioned last year in December it was 16-7
January 3-8

TOTAL = 19-11  (not sure where 19-15 came from??)

So with 15 first half losses(19-15 record) how in the hell do you get 32-2???  LOL

Your win/loss will be prob about 60% with units only doubled ONLY if your 2nd half wins. depending on how many games hit in 2nd half
Those games where both 1st half & 2nd half loses you are now down 3 units.   

Based on that, you would need to hit 3 straight 1 half plays to get back to even.  Or a 1st half loss (now -4 units) with a 2nd half win (+2 units for total of -2 units overall).

I AM SIMPLY TRYING TO PROTECT PEOPLE!  THE MATH DOESN'T ADD UP!!

I've been capping a long time, this is fools gold with stats and numbers that fall short from being realistic.

Uhmmm...are you sure you know how to add??
How is 16+3(19) and 7+8(15) equal 19-11??
I am not saying a word about the actual "system", as it is up to each individual to come up with their own strategy for betting, but it is hard to take your mathematical opinion seriously when you cannot do simple arithmetic...GLTA. 

My bad on the slight overlook.  Doesn't change the flaws in every way shape or form.  

Everybody are grown men some children here so make your own decisions wisely


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Quote Originally Posted by TheWiseOneSix3:


With all due respect, you do realize how flawed the math and stats are in this right?

You guys are gonna get burned if you keep doing this!!! Be very careful!!!
There is NEVER, let me repeat NEVER, a system that beats the books as simple as taking an over/under.

Furthermore, as you mentioned last year in December it was 16-7
January 3-8

TOTAL = 19-11  (not sure where 19-15 came from??)

So with 15 first half losses(19-15 record) how in the hell do you get 32-2???  LOL

Your win/loss will be prob about 60% with units only doubled ONLY if your 2nd half wins. depending on how many games hit in 2nd half
Those games where both 1st half & 2nd half loses you are now down 3 units.   

Based on that, you would need to hit 3 straight 1 half plays to get back to even.  Or a 1st half loss (now -4 units) with a 2nd half win (+2 units for total of -2 units overall).

I AM SIMPLY TRYING TO PROTECT PEOPLE!  THE MATH DOESN'T ADD UP!!

I've been capping a long time, this is fools gold with stats and numbers that fall short from being realistic.

Uhmmm...are you sure you know how to add??
How is 16+3(19) and 7+8(15) equal 19-11??
I am not saying a word about the actual "system", as it is up to each individual to come up with their own strategy for betting, but it is hard to take your mathematical opinion seriously when you cannot do simple arithmetic...GLTA. 

My bad on the slight overlook.  Doesn't change the flaws in every way shape or form.  

Everybody are grown men some children here so make your own decisions wisely


 
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Posted: Dec. 21, 2012 - 6:57 PM ET #56

remember to be profitable this strategy needs to win 4 to every 1 loss. challenging. 

3-0 so far


ball state/central florida UNDER 31  1st half

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remember to be profitable this strategy needs to win 4 to every 1 loss. challenging. 

3-0 so far


ball state/central florida UNDER 31  1st half

 
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Quote Originally Posted by JaCampbe:

remember to be profitable this strategy needs to win 4 to every 1 loss. challenging. 

3-0 so far


ball state/central florida UNDER 31  1st half


Good info JaCampbe.  Thanks
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remember to be profitable this strategy needs to win 4 to every 1 loss. challenging. 

3-0 so far


ball state/central florida UNDER 31  1st half


Good info JaCampbe.  Thanks
 
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Posted: Dec. 21, 2012 - 7:34 PM ET #58

in general 2nd halves are opposite of 1st half happens all the time in totals in points. I always take a team who is losing by 14 or  more in the1st  half and bet them in  second half ,same with totals in the nfl its a profitable angle also.

As far as this hick Tenn JED  go drink some more moonshine .,If u dont like the thread ,start one up and gives us yourwisdom  IDIOT

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in general 2nd halves are opposite of 1st half happens all the time in totals in points. I always take a team who is losing by 14 or  more in the1st  half and bet them in  second half ,same with totals in the nfl its a profitable angle also.

As far as this hick Tenn JED  go drink some more moonshine .,If u dont like the thread ,start one up and gives us yourwisdom  IDIOT

 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2012 - 1:13 AM ET #59

How can u call yourself a Wiseone when u cant even add or read. Its 32-2 last year because u have to lose both halves to consider it a loss. Last yr theres only 2 games that went over on both halves as stated by OP hence 2 losses, got it dummy?
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How can u call yourself a Wiseone when u cant even add or read. Its 32-2 last year because u have to lose both halves to consider it a loss. Last yr theres only 2 games that went over on both halves as stated by OP hence 2 losses, got it dummy?
 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2012 - 1:16 AM ET #60

Ill make it kindergarten for u, if u lose the 1h under and win your double up 2 units on the 2h of that game, that's consider 1-0 since its a system, not 1-1 get it??
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Ill make it kindergarten for u, if u lose the 1h under and win your double up 2 units on the 2h of that game, that's consider 1-0 since its a system, not 1-1 get it??
 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2012 - 9:11 AM ET #61

Lol...this Wiseone is a sharp one isn't he...doh!
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Lol...this Wiseone is a sharp one isn't he...doh!
 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2012 - 11:28 AM ET #62

Last night's second half under hit making the strategy 4-0. I really don't like the 1H under of the 12pm EST game but it doesn't matter bc I am just tryin to track this and see if it's profitable long term. So 
Ecu/ul under 1H

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Last night's second half under hit making the strategy 4-0. I really don't like the 1H under of the 12pm EST game but it doesn't matter bc I am just tryin to track this and see if it's profitable long term. So 
Ecu/ul under 1H

Good luck 
 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2012 - 3:52 PM ET #63

You didn't get the 1st half,but w only 26 points in 2nd,the 2nd had to have hit with the double down,no?....was sleeping and didn't see the 2nd half line,but assuming it was 28+...I have followed on a few,and it has been an enlightening ride so far...will continue to throw some change on them as Bowl season moves on...thx for the interesting angle and insight JaCampbe and GLTA
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You didn't get the 1st half,but w only 26 points in 2nd,the 2nd had to have hit with the double down,no?....was sleeping and didn't see the 2nd half line,but assuming it was 28+...I have followed on a few,and it has been an enlightening ride so far...will continue to throw some change on them as Bowl season moves on...thx for the interesting angle and insight JaCampbe and GLTA
 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2012 - 4:10 PM ET #64

i saw 37 as a second half line @ bookmaker for the first game. 

5-0 so far, with 3 games requiring a double up for the second half wager

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i saw 37 as a second half line @ bookmaker for the first game. 

5-0 so far, with 3 games requiring a double up for the second half wager

 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2012 - 5:25 PM ET #65

Ok so ya gonna 2x the UND 34 here...?
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Ok so ya gonna 2x the UND 34 here...?
 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2012 - 5:32 PM ET #66

would love to have und 34, best i saw was 23.5 at -105
but yes, according to this strategy this game qualifies as a double up for second half
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would love to have und 34, best i saw was 23.5 at -105
but yes, according to this strategy this game qualifies as a double up for second half
 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2012 - 5:36 PM ET #67

I went against the grain on this game and bet the over for game and 2nd half...this is one where i felt the line was simply set too low and we all know this system, albeit a good one so far, will obviously not go unbeaten...so I took my shot that this was gonna be the 1st....GLTA
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I went against the grain on this game and bet the over for game and 2nd half...this is one where i felt the line was simply set too low and we all know this system, albeit a good one so far, will obviously not go unbeaten...so I took my shot that this was gonna be the 1st....GLTA
 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2012 - 5:37 PM ET #68

furthermore, I got over 23 at even money through my local...we shall see, but this Boise no huddle would make me bite my nails rest of game if I had under...GLTA
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furthermore, I got over 23 at even money through my local...we shall see, but this Boise no huddle would make me bite my nails rest of game if I had under...GLTA
 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2012 - 6:53 PM ET #69

another bowl game another winner
6 bowl games and 6 winners so far
see ya monday

merry christmas and happy holidaze 
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another bowl game another winner
6 bowl games and 6 winners so far
see ya monday

merry christmas and happy holidaze 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BLAK_MAMBA:

How can u call yourself a Wiseone when u cant even add or read. Its 32-2 last year because u have to lose both halves to consider it a loss. Last yr theres only 2 games that went over on both halves as stated by OP hence 2 losses, got it dummy?

Wow great system.  I'm going to start that with all my plays.  How can one ever have a loss??

Last week I lost on Giants $1,000.  Now I am going to Double up on Giants this week for $2,000.  If it hits I am 1-0.  If it loses I'm going to Triple up on them week after. The losses don't count only the wins?

Funny, when I checked my book today, ANY LOSS 1st half, 2nd half, you being born, ATS, Side, any way you like shows up for the day what I do with WINS/LOSSES and TOTAL AMOUNT WIN/LOSS

So todays games goes 2-2 by any book.  But if you want to deem it as not losing today, 2-0 go ahead.

I got my system to, keep doubling for if you lose its not a loss...I'm going undefeated rest of bowl season and next year.
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How can u call yourself a Wiseone when u cant even add or read. Its 32-2 last year because u have to lose both halves to consider it a loss. Last yr theres only 2 games that went over on both halves as stated by OP hence 2 losses, got it dummy?

Wow great system.  I'm going to start that with all my plays.  How can one ever have a loss??

Last week I lost on Giants $1,000.  Now I am going to Double up on Giants this week for $2,000.  If it hits I am 1-0.  If it loses I'm going to Triple up on them week after. The losses don't count only the wins?

Funny, when I checked my book today, ANY LOSS 1st half, 2nd half, you being born, ATS, Side, any way you like shows up for the day what I do with WINS/LOSSES and TOTAL AMOUNT WIN/LOSS

So todays games goes 2-2 by any book.  But if you want to deem it as not losing today, 2-0 go ahead.

I got my system to, keep doubling for if you lose its not a loss...I'm going undefeated rest of bowl season and next year.
 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2012 - 7:07 PM ET #71

Quote Originally Posted by BLAK_MAMBA:

Ill make it kindergarten for u, if u lose the 1h under and win your double up 2 units on the 2h of that game, that's consider 1-0 since its a system, not 1-1 get it??

Not 1-0

If somebody bets $100 today they are 2-2, up +$180
based on doubling up scenario, not 2-0
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Ill make it kindergarten for u, if u lose the 1h under and win your double up 2 units on the 2h of that game, that's consider 1-0 since its a system, not 1-1 get it??

Not 1-0

If somebody bets $100 today they are 2-2, up +$180
based on doubling up scenario, not 2-0
 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2012 - 7:08 PM ET #72

My bad JA meant 23 ...the only issue I have with the syst. is max profit 1 unit per game ....max loss per game 3 units....

So I tweaked it ....and I dont play the 1stH and play the 2nd Halfs UND when They Qualify.

Granted not as many opportunitys but the risk factor WAY diminished

Its been working well

Keep up the good work 
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My bad JA meant 23 ...the only issue I have with the syst. is max profit 1 unit per game ....max loss per game 3 units....

So I tweaked it ....and I dont play the 1stH and play the 2nd Halfs UND when They Qualify.

Granted not as many opportunitys but the risk factor WAY diminished

Its been working well

Keep up the good work 
 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2012 - 7:21 PM ET #73

layman's terms for the "slow ones"

assuming a unit is $100:
boise st under 21.5 (-110) first half $110 to win $100 LOSS
so your down 110.. 
odds for the second half.. 23.5 at -110
to be up a unit for the game, you need also cover the juice you paid out for the 1h loss
so you would bet $231 to win $210 which covers the juice plus the $100 to be up for the game

 keep in mind you must win over 3 games for every 1 loss to remain profitable. 6-0 sounds great but there's a lot of games to be played

6 GAMES 6 UNITS SO FAR

6-0

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU AND YOURS

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layman's terms for the "slow ones"

assuming a unit is $100:
boise st under 21.5 (-110) first half $110 to win $100 LOSS
so your down 110.. 
odds for the second half.. 23.5 at -110
to be up a unit for the game, you need also cover the juice you paid out for the 1h loss
so you would bet $231 to win $210 which covers the juice plus the $100 to be up for the game

 keep in mind you must win over 3 games for every 1 loss to remain profitable. 6-0 sounds great but there's a lot of games to be played

6 GAMES 6 UNITS SO FAR

6-0

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU AND YOURS

GOODNIGHT
 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2012 - 7:22 PM ET #74

tweak it how u want my friends like i said this is not my system i merely came across it, thought i would share. if you can find a way to make it better, by all means.. DO IT!!!!

i wanna see you make money

and hey, maybe i can make some too 
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tweak it how u want my friends like i said this is not my system i merely came across it, thought i would share. if you can find a way to make it better, by all means.. DO IT!!!!

i wanna see you make money

and hey, maybe i can make some too 
 
 
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Did this work for the SMU game?..I was on 5/6 ..passed on on the Boise game as I thought the line was low
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Did this work for the SMU game?..I was on 5/6 ..passed on on the Boise game as I thought the line was low
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