they lost to oregonst on the road... who would be favored against old miss at home... florida lost to old miss AT HOME.. so you're tellin me florida deserves to play more so then USC?
what you're telling me is what you want is USC to go undefeated every year? you know how ridiculous that is?
do you know why he got his title back 03-04? because oklahoma lost to kansas state in the big 12 championship game and STILL got to to the NC and got embarassed.. while everyone but the computers knew USC was the better team.. they proved it the next year by stomping OK by 40+ points... in the NC.. with most starters by both teams returning...
Do I want USC to go undefeated every year? no of course not. But I I do not feel USC is entitled to play in the title game every year.
You argue USC is more deserving than Florida? are you kidding ? you compare each teams loss. Why don't you compare each teams entire schedule. USC more worthy that fla is an absolute joke.
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Quote Originally Posted by aznboi917:
they lost to oregonst on the road... who would be favored against old miss at home... florida lost to old miss AT HOME.. so you're tellin me florida deserves to play more so then USC?
what you're telling me is what you want is USC to go undefeated every year? you know how ridiculous that is?
do you know why he got his title back 03-04? because oklahoma lost to kansas state in the big 12 championship game and STILL got to to the NC and got embarassed.. while everyone but the computers knew USC was the better team.. they proved it the next year by stomping OK by 40+ points... in the NC.. with most starters by both teams returning...
Do I want USC to go undefeated every year? no of course not. But I I do not feel USC is entitled to play in the title game every year.
You argue USC is more deserving than Florida? are you kidding ? you compare each teams loss. Why don't you compare each teams entire schedule. USC more worthy that fla is an absolute joke.
BLAME THE SYSTEM , NOT THE COACH....USC WOULD WHOOP THE SHIT OUT OF EVERYONE IN TOP 8 WITH EXCEPTION OF FLORIDA WHO THEY WOULD BEAT BY 8 OR SO.................
How are they going to whip the shit out anyone when they cant even get by a weak 8-3 Oregon State. team. USC is the most over-hyped team in the country. Stanford ran up and down the field on them. Get real.
TROJAN NATION................FIGHT ON !
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Quote Originally Posted by BROWNTRUCK:
BLAME THE SYSTEM , NOT THE COACH....USC WOULD WHOOP THE SHIT OUT OF EVERYONE IN TOP 8 WITH EXCEPTION OF FLORIDA WHO THEY WOULD BEAT BY 8 OR SO.................
How are they going to whip the shit out anyone when they cant even get by a weak 8-3 Oregon State. team. USC is the most over-hyped team in the country. Stanford ran up and down the field on them. Get real.
lol... you're telling me that USC couldnt play through Florida's schedule? and yes i'm comparing the loss.. because they played NO ONE be4 the old miss game.. so they cant sit there and say they lost because they were being beat up by the tough SEC.. they started playing the hard part of the schedule AFTER that game..
what i'm trying to say is.. first off you're not a USC fan... second.. USC does deserve to go.. because you cant sit here and say 100% that anyone in the country is would be a sure win against USC.. let alone would be a sure favorite on a neutral field... the only team that deserves to go is alabama... as of right now.. other then that.. every other 1 loss team has a reason to complain...
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lol... you're telling me that USC couldnt play through Florida's schedule? and yes i'm comparing the loss.. because they played NO ONE be4 the old miss game.. so they cant sit there and say they lost because they were being beat up by the tough SEC.. they started playing the hard part of the schedule AFTER that game..
what i'm trying to say is.. first off you're not a USC fan... second.. USC does deserve to go.. because you cant sit here and say 100% that anyone in the country is would be a sure win against USC.. let alone would be a sure favorite on a neutral field... the only team that deserves to go is alabama... as of right now.. other then that.. every other 1 loss team has a reason to complain...
You argue the reason USC should go is, I am quoting you " because you can't sit here and say 100% that anyone in the country is would be a sure win against USC"
Of course I can not say that!! Not about tex tech..okla..texas..or fla either. SO WHY DOES USC get your spot??? The world does not revolve around USC.
USC fans are taking the torch from the old ND fans how they are the best and the world is here to serve them and it is lame.
You complain it is not their fault they have a weak conference or weak schedule and ALL one loss teams should complain..
answer this question why not boise or ball st?
if all you care about is record and not strength of schedule why not ball st or boise?
Or does strength of schedule only mean nothing when USC has the weaker schedule not the tougher one??
I will say again, whether you believe it or not I am a USC fan
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You argue the reason USC should go is, I am quoting you " because you can't sit here and say 100% that anyone in the country is would be a sure win against USC"
Of course I can not say that!! Not about tex tech..okla..texas..or fla either. SO WHY DOES USC get your spot??? The world does not revolve around USC.
USC fans are taking the torch from the old ND fans how they are the best and the world is here to serve them and it is lame.
You complain it is not their fault they have a weak conference or weak schedule and ALL one loss teams should complain..
answer this question why not boise or ball st?
if all you care about is record and not strength of schedule why not ball st or boise?
Or does strength of schedule only mean nothing when USC has the weaker schedule not the tougher one??
I will say again, whether you believe it or not I am a USC fan
sure buddy.. thats why you refer to USC FANs.. instead of us.. but whatever...
i didnt argue that USC should go above all the other 1 loss team.. what i'm arguing is you saying they DONT deserve to go... all the 1 loss team in the top 8 deserve to go or atleast has a reason to COMPLAIN... and boise and ballst are not in BCS conferences and didnt atleast make an attempt to schedule TOP BCS teams... so that point is useless...
about strength of schedule.. you dont see out of conference opps on usc schedule like citadel... and div 2.... again not their fault.. they TRIED.. so they have a right to express complaint..
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sure buddy.. thats why you refer to USC FANs.. instead of us.. but whatever...
i didnt argue that USC should go above all the other 1 loss team.. what i'm arguing is you saying they DONT deserve to go... all the 1 loss team in the top 8 deserve to go or atleast has a reason to COMPLAIN... and boise and ballst are not in BCS conferences and didnt atleast make an attempt to schedule TOP BCS teams... so that point is useless...
about strength of schedule.. you dont see out of conference opps on usc schedule like citadel... and div 2.... again not their fault.. they TRIED.. so they have a right to express complaint..
only people that any reason to whine is an undefeated team. boise st will have a big case to plead. using the fabulous game against OU couple years ago, as an argument. I know their schedule is weak, not saying they are good enough to be there, but they have an argument. more so than anyone with a loss.
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only people that any reason to whine is an undefeated team. boise st will have a big case to plead. using the fabulous game against OU couple years ago, as an argument. I know their schedule is weak, not saying they are good enough to be there, but they have an argument. more so than anyone with a loss.
No, Virginia, there will not be an 8-team playoff............
We'll be lucky if we get a plus 1 game when ESPN takes over in a few years.
Mitch Albom explained if perfectly on the Sports Reporters
"You're not gonna get 30,000 USC fans to travel to three different sites"
He used USC just as an example, but you get his point. This mythical playoff system people are crying for would have to incorporate the current bowls, and with them being all over the country, it's just not gonna happen.....
But, to get back on point, I'm glad somebody besides me pointed out that USC traveled across country to pound Virginia, 52-7, and then clobbered Ohio State (what, #3 in the country at the time?) 35-3 (one idiot on another thread called them "an unranked ohio state"..........michigan fan, 'nuff said).
You see anybody else schedule a Top Ten out of conference?
Oh, that's right. Oregon State went to Penn State. There's that "weak" Pac-10 scheduling for you again.........
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No, Virginia, there will not be an 8-team playoff............
We'll be lucky if we get a plus 1 game when ESPN takes over in a few years.
Mitch Albom explained if perfectly on the Sports Reporters
"You're not gonna get 30,000 USC fans to travel to three different sites"
He used USC just as an example, but you get his point. This mythical playoff system people are crying for would have to incorporate the current bowls, and with them being all over the country, it's just not gonna happen.....
But, to get back on point, I'm glad somebody besides me pointed out that USC traveled across country to pound Virginia, 52-7, and then clobbered Ohio State (what, #3 in the country at the time?) 35-3 (one idiot on another thread called them "an unranked ohio state"..........michigan fan, 'nuff said).
You see anybody else schedule a Top Ten out of conference?
Oh, that's right. Oregon State went to Penn State. There's that "weak" Pac-10 scheduling for you again.........
oh yeah, i forgot about usc playing virginia. they are so good. acc is such a strong conference this year. just like when they played arkansas, when was it last year or year before. and boasted about beating a sec team. arkansas is the class of sec like virginia to the acc. agree with you on 1 thing. big-10 always weak shedule. as well as pac-10. which is one good thing about college football they do. match them two conference champs in rose bowl. i believe if you dont's win your conference you have no reason to whine or cry about not being in the national championship game. don't care what team is in that situation. thats my rant
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oh yeah, i forgot about usc playing virginia. they are so good. acc is such a strong conference this year. just like when they played arkansas, when was it last year or year before. and boasted about beating a sec team. arkansas is the class of sec like virginia to the acc. agree with you on 1 thing. big-10 always weak shedule. as well as pac-10. which is one good thing about college football they do. match them two conference champs in rose bowl. i believe if you dont's win your conference you have no reason to whine or cry about not being in the national championship game. don't care what team is in that situation. thats my rant
as you can see by my avatar i'm not a USC fan what i can tell you is they have the best defense in the nation, and a very good running game. that combo plus one of the best big game coaches if not the best in ncaaf, will put you into position to win every game. also as noted they schedule out of conference bcs schools yearly, they went into virgina and demolished them, and virginia while their record doesn't show it is not a cakewalk. they've beaten UNC, they went on the road and beat a tough georgia tech team, the wrecked east carolina and maryland. they lost to some fairly tough teams, USC, @ uconn early in the season, miami, wake forest, and clemson. they also beat the ohio state university 35-3. while the pac-10 is down you can't fault usc for that, still oregon, cal, and even arizona. while i think they fall short this year because of the big 12 and sec being so tough, they aren't as overrated as most posters seem to think.
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as you can see by my avatar i'm not a USC fan what i can tell you is they have the best defense in the nation, and a very good running game. that combo plus one of the best big game coaches if not the best in ncaaf, will put you into position to win every game. also as noted they schedule out of conference bcs schools yearly, they went into virgina and demolished them, and virginia while their record doesn't show it is not a cakewalk. they've beaten UNC, they went on the road and beat a tough georgia tech team, the wrecked east carolina and maryland. they lost to some fairly tough teams, USC, @ uconn early in the season, miami, wake forest, and clemson. they also beat the ohio state university 35-3. while the pac-10 is down you can't fault usc for that, still oregon, cal, and even arizona. while i think they fall short this year because of the big 12 and sec being so tough, they aren't as overrated as most posters seem to think.
oh yeah, i forgot about usc playing virginia. they are so good. acc is such a strong conference this year. just like when they played arkansas, when was it last year or year before. and boasted about beating a sec team. arkansas is the class of sec like virginia to the acc. agree with you on 1 thing. big-10 always weak shedule. as well as pac-10. which is one good thing about college football they do. match them two conference champs in rose bowl. i believe if you dont's win your conference you have no reason to whine or cry about not being in the national championship game. don't care what team is in that situation. thats my rant
Got a smartass comment about Ohio State, you dix?
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Quote Originally Posted by dixie351:
oh yeah, i forgot about usc playing virginia. they are so good. acc is such a strong conference this year. just like when they played arkansas, when was it last year or year before. and boasted about beating a sec team. arkansas is the class of sec like virginia to the acc. agree with you on 1 thing. big-10 always weak shedule. as well as pac-10. which is one good thing about college football they do. match them two conference champs in rose bowl. i believe if you dont's win your conference you have no reason to whine or cry about not being in the national championship game. don't care what team is in that situation. thats my rant
This is the worst I've seen the Pac-10 in over a decade..............& this is NOT the best USC team they've had in the L6 years. IMHO, USC would lose to Fla., Texas, & Okla...........not get blown out, but lose. They have the D to hang but their offense is just not as explosive as it's been in past seasons. They have a lot of really good players, just no great ones.
That being said, with an eight team playoff........six auto's & two at-large.......the regular season would still be as important as ever. If you have to win your conf. champ. to go, you best play your ass off. Only thing I see that would hurt cfb in that scenario is that teams would schedule Sun Belt & 1-AA schools to fill out their ooc schedules, much like what the SEC & B12 does now.
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This is the worst I've seen the Pac-10 in over a decade..............& this is NOT the best USC team they've had in the L6 years. IMHO, USC would lose to Fla., Texas, & Okla...........not get blown out, but lose. They have the D to hang but their offense is just not as explosive as it's been in past seasons. They have a lot of really good players, just no great ones.
That being said, with an eight team playoff........six auto's & two at-large.......the regular season would still be as important as ever. If you have to win your conf. champ. to go, you best play your ass off. Only thing I see that would hurt cfb in that scenario is that teams would schedule Sun Belt & 1-AA schools to fill out their ooc schedules, much like what the SEC & B12 does now.
no nothing about ohio st. they have a tradition of getting beat when playing out of conference. especially against SEC lol. didnt consider them a team worthy enough to brag about beating.
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Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:
Got a smartass comment about Ohio State, you dix?
no nothing about ohio st. they have a tradition of getting beat when playing out of conference. especially against SEC lol. didnt consider them a team worthy enough to brag about beating.
This is the worst I've seen the Pac-10 in over a decade..............& this is NOT the best USC team they've had in the L6 years. IMHO, USC would lose to Fla., Texas, & Okla...........not get blown out, but lose. They have the D to hang but their offense is just not as explosive as it's been in past seasons. They have a lot of really good players, just no great ones.
That being said, with an eight team playoff........six auto's & two at-large.......the regular season would still be as important as ever. If you have to win your conf. champ. to go, you best play your ass off. Only thing I see that would hurt cfb in that scenario is that teams would schedule Sun Belt & 1-AA schools to fill out their ooc schedules, much like what the SEC & B12 does now.
......totally agree USC will lose to Fla, Tex and Okla straight up!
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Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:
This is the worst I've seen the Pac-10 in over a decade..............& this is NOT the best USC team they've had in the L6 years. IMHO, USC would lose to Fla., Texas, & Okla...........not get blown out, but lose. They have the D to hang but their offense is just not as explosive as it's been in past seasons. They have a lot of really good players, just no great ones.
That being said, with an eight team playoff........six auto's & two at-large.......the regular season would still be as important as ever. If you have to win your conf. champ. to go, you best play your ass off. Only thing I see that would hurt cfb in that scenario is that teams would schedule Sun Belt & 1-AA schools to fill out their ooc schedules, much like what the SEC & B12 does now.
......totally agree USC will lose to Fla, Tex and Okla straight up!
By the way if you haven't figured it out, ESPN has 4 networks they have to fill with garbage, conjecture, hypocrisy and bullshit....Carroll knows full well his cries will help more than hurt. If those idiots on PTI and Around the Horn can argue about an NFL player farting for 3 hours a day surely he can get some airtime.
And ESPN is more than happy to shovel drama to the sad little sports junkies the way ABC feeds pathetic woman ridiculous dramas and NBC pumps out reality shows and remakes to morons.
You want to stop the nonsense? Stop watching ESPN except to find out which team they are hyping to the retards.
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By the way if you haven't figured it out, ESPN has 4 networks they have to fill with garbage, conjecture, hypocrisy and bullshit....Carroll knows full well his cries will help more than hurt. If those idiots on PTI and Around the Horn can argue about an NFL player farting for 3 hours a day surely he can get some airtime.
And ESPN is more than happy to shovel drama to the sad little sports junkies the way ABC feeds pathetic woman ridiculous dramas and NBC pumps out reality shows and remakes to morons.
You want to stop the nonsense? Stop watching ESPN except to find out which team they are hyping to the retards.
WOW! A lot of USC haters on this message board!!! All of YOU please stop your CRYING!!! Just because your team SUCKS, please do not take it out on USC, or their fans. Every coach lobbies for their team, not just Pete. I am also sick and tired of people talking about how GOOD the SEC or the BIG 12 is. They are not that special. 2 good teams in the Sec(FL., and ALA) and 2 good teams in the Big 12. (Texas & Oklahoma) Other than that the teams are all garbage and are no much better than the teams in the Pac 10. So quit your bitchin and deal with it!
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WOW! A lot of USC haters on this message board!!! All of YOU please stop your CRYING!!! Just because your team SUCKS, please do not take it out on USC, or their fans. Every coach lobbies for their team, not just Pete. I am also sick and tired of people talking about how GOOD the SEC or the BIG 12 is. They are not that special. 2 good teams in the Sec(FL., and ALA) and 2 good teams in the Big 12. (Texas & Oklahoma) Other than that the teams are all garbage and are no much better than the teams in the Pac 10. So quit your bitchin and deal with it!
the only thing i have to say is that usc and florida should both be ranked in the bottom 5. i dont care what people think about their offense or how good they supposedly are. one of the biggest things is discipline. you have teams like texas, oklahoma, oklahoma state etc beating ranked teams back to back and i dont mean some bs ranked teams like lsu, or georgia i mean legit ranked teams and they compete heavy and hard. with florida, they might be able to run it up on citadel all day but they lost a game at home, same goes for usc. before these coaches start crying they need to understand that. every year i ask the same question, who did florida beat again? i hope they get a playoff soon so that all this bs can end soon. it will eliminate all these style points bs going on.
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the only thing i have to say is that usc and florida should both be ranked in the bottom 5. i dont care what people think about their offense or how good they supposedly are. one of the biggest things is discipline. you have teams like texas, oklahoma, oklahoma state etc beating ranked teams back to back and i dont mean some bs ranked teams like lsu, or georgia i mean legit ranked teams and they compete heavy and hard. with florida, they might be able to run it up on citadel all day but they lost a game at home, same goes for usc. before these coaches start crying they need to understand that. every year i ask the same question, who did florida beat again? i hope they get a playoff soon so that all this bs can end soon. it will eliminate all these style points bs going on.
carroll is such a bitch when things aren't going his way, yet he doesn't say shit when things swing his way..im sick of him and Mack brown now as well crying and complaining every single time the camera is on one of them.
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carroll is such a bitch when things aren't going his way, yet he doesn't say shit when things swing his way..im sick of him and Mack brown now as well crying and complaining every single time the camera is on one of them.
BLAME THE SYSTEM , NOT THE COACH....USC WOULD WHOOP THE SHIT OUT OF EVERYONE IN TOP 8 WITH EXCEPTION OF FLORIDA WHO THEY WOULD BEAT BY 8 OR SO.................
TROJAN NATION................FIGHT ON !
Anyone that has watched USC this year knows they have a great defense Top 3 but that is the ONLY THING that is keeping them in games; they could have easily lost the Zona and Cal game; scoring only 17 pts; now USC is supposed to put up huge points against OU, FL, and Texas who have the 1,2,3 offenses in the nation. USC offense is absolutely stagnant; their defense gives them so many chances and they still cant score. USC cant win on defense alone and OU, Texas and Fl would expose that.
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Quote Originally Posted by BROWNTRUCK:
BLAME THE SYSTEM , NOT THE COACH....USC WOULD WHOOP THE SHIT OUT OF EVERYONE IN TOP 8 WITH EXCEPTION OF FLORIDA WHO THEY WOULD BEAT BY 8 OR SO.................
TROJAN NATION................FIGHT ON !
Anyone that has watched USC this year knows they have a great defense Top 3 but that is the ONLY THING that is keeping them in games; they could have easily lost the Zona and Cal game; scoring only 17 pts; now USC is supposed to put up huge points against OU, FL, and Texas who have the 1,2,3 offenses in the nation. USC offense is absolutely stagnant; their defense gives them so many chances and they still cant score. USC cant win on defense alone and OU, Texas and Fl would expose that.
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