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    TaceroTacobell
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2011 - 3:06 AM ET #51

    I think I would call you wussie to your face, I ain't saying you don't know what your talking about chief what I'm saying is after a loss why come in and say anything except next one up and good luck. If this guy was some dipshit I wouldn't have come in here at all but he has great points in all his posts win or lose. And what's up with hating on L and L this madness you spoke cannot be true.
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    I think I would call you wussie to your face, I ain't saying you don't know what your talking about chief what I'm saying is after a loss why come in and say anything except next one up and good luck. If this guy was some dipshit I wouldn't have come in here at all but he has great points in all his posts win or lose. And what's up with hating on L and L this madness you spoke cannot be true.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2011 - 5:17 AM ET #52

    Great write up but damn, you cant catch a break.. always on the losing side.
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    Great write up but damn, you cant catch a break.. always on the losing side.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2011 - 5:25 AM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by Peewee2820:

    Wow that is kind of weird to go through that whole speech and not be playing the game.


    honestly who writes a essay about a game and not bet a dollar on it.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peewee2820:

    Wow that is kind of weird to go through that whole speech and not be playing the game.


    honestly who writes a essay about a game and not bet a dollar on it.....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2011 - 10:08 AM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by For_The_Books:



    honestly who writes a essay about a game and not bet a dollar on it.....

    VegasJack... aka KeithLine.... aka Adam Chernoff

    same guy different name....  surprised he hasn't asked anyone for money yet,  but he hasn't won any games yet either....  wait until he gets a job at a sportsbook and then maybe he will start winning again.  won last year when working for a sportsbook, but got fired down in Dominican Rep

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    Quote Originally Posted by For_The_Books:



    honestly who writes a essay about a game and not bet a dollar on it.....

    VegasJack... aka KeithLine.... aka Adam Chernoff

    same guy different name....  surprised he hasn't asked anyone for money yet,  but he hasn't won any games yet either....  wait until he gets a job at a sportsbook and then maybe he will start winning again.  won last year when working for a sportsbook, but got fired down in Dominican Rep

     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2011 - 10:11 AM ET #55

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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2011 - 10:13 AM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by wiredlu22:

    VegasJack... aka KeithLine.... aka Adam Chernoff

    same guy different name....  surprised he hasn't asked anyone for money yet,  but he hasn't won any games yet either....  wait until he gets a job at a sportsbook and then maybe he will start winning again.  won last year when working for a sportsbook, but got fired down in Dominican Rep


    Really?  How do you know all of this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wiredlu22:

    VegasJack... aka KeithLine.... aka Adam Chernoff

    same guy different name....  surprised he hasn't asked anyone for money yet,  but he hasn't won any games yet either....  wait until he gets a job at a sportsbook and then maybe he will start winning again.  won last year when working for a sportsbook, but got fired down in Dominican Rep


    Really?  How do you know all of this?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2011 - 10:17 AM ET #57

    I didn't see the first half.  But, based on what I saw in the 2nd half, TCU very easily could have won by more than 10.  Up 7, fumble punt inside the 10.  Then, a lucky zero coverage prayer that was answered on 3rd and long.  Other than that, very little from LT offense.  TCU moved the ball almost at will.  If LT went for it on 4th down with 3 mins left (like they should have if they were actually trying to win the game), outcome would have been different.

    It may have lost.  But, I always feel that you can not account for DTD's or those which are set up inside the 10 due to Special Teams,

    Was a decent pick.  
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    I didn't see the first half.  But, based on what I saw in the 2nd half, TCU very easily could have won by more than 10.  Up 7, fumble punt inside the 10.  Then, a lucky zero coverage prayer that was answered on 3rd and long.  Other than that, very little from LT offense.  TCU moved the ball almost at will.  If LT went for it on 4th down with 3 mins left (like they should have if they were actually trying to win the game), outcome would have been different.

    It may have lost.  But, I always feel that you can not account for DTD's or those which are set up inside the 10 due to Special Teams,

    Was a decent pick.  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2011 - 10:39 AM ET #58

    Is this the same dude that posted on sbr? If so writings are similar but only can confirm this,
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    Is this the same dude that posted on sbr? If so writings are similar but only can confirm this,
     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2011 - 11:04 AM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by HawaiianWarrior:

    Is this the same dude that posted on sbr? If so writings are similar but only can confirm this,

     

    same guy.  there is a thread on sbr about it.  used to post at cappersmall too.  took some clients for some money then just disappeared.  was a tout on toptencappers until just recently. not sure what happened there.  probably just took off again.  only time will tell

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawaiianWarrior:

    Is this the same dude that posted on sbr? If so writings are similar but only can confirm this,

     

    same guy.  there is a thread on sbr about it.  used to post at cappersmall too.  took some clients for some money then just disappeared.  was a tout on toptencappers until just recently. not sure what happened there.  probably just took off again.  only time will tell

     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2011 - 11:40 AM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by jjczar:

    I didn't see the first half.  But, based on what I saw in the 2nd half, TCU very easily could have won by more than 10.  Up 7, fumble punt inside the 10.  Then, a lucky zero coverage prayer that was answered on 3rd and long.  Other than that, very little from LT offense.  TCU moved the ball almost at will.  If LT went for it on 4th down with 3 mins left (like they should have if they were actually trying to win the game), outcome would have been different.

    It may have lost.  But, I always feel that you can not account for DTD's or those which are set up inside the 10 due to Special Teams,

    Was a decent pick.  

    I hate when people do this.  You clearly pointed out major details to support your side or if you didn't pick it, that side and left out all the significant plays which would have led to a LTech outright win.  How was the 61 yard TD pass luck?  At least twice before that LTech got behind the DB and a bad throw resulted in no points.  LTech also missed a chipshot FG from a very solid kicker.  Had the ball on like the 35 before the half with a chance to go up 13 or 17-3, threw a pick, 20 yards later tied at half.  The fumbled punt inside the 10 is nothing, near turnovers happen from INT's/fumbles almost a half dozen times a game.  Or how TCU had 2nd and goal from the one and was hit for an 8 yard loss, only to be bailed out by PI from a shitty DB.  The real reason TCU didn't cover is b/c it took them about 3 minutes longer to score inside the goalline.  A 7 minute drive to go up 31-24 took 3 full minutes longer than it should have.  Had you had those 3 minutes, TCU probbaly scores to end the game and the final reads 38-24.  And finally, anyone who's arguing to go for it on 4th down with 4 minutes left for LTech is a moron.  You only want that b/c its the only realistic opportunity you'll get to get TCU another score and cover your number.  No coach with 4 minutes left and 2 TOs in his pocket goes for it inside his own 35...anyone who argues otherwise should stop capping now.

    We've all had plays where we won in the "wrong" side and lost on the "right" side.  But to point out half a dozen plays trying to reason why TCU was the right side without pointing out all the lost opportunities that Ltech also missed is just stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjczar:

    I didn't see the first half.  But, based on what I saw in the 2nd half, TCU very easily could have won by more than 10.  Up 7, fumble punt inside the 10.  Then, a lucky zero coverage prayer that was answered on 3rd and long.  Other than that, very little from LT offense.  TCU moved the ball almost at will.  If LT went for it on 4th down with 3 mins left (like they should have if they were actually trying to win the game), outcome would have been different.

    It may have lost.  But, I always feel that you can not account for DTD's or those which are set up inside the 10 due to Special Teams,

    Was a decent pick.  

    I hate when people do this.  You clearly pointed out major details to support your side or if you didn't pick it, that side and left out all the significant plays which would have led to a LTech outright win.  How was the 61 yard TD pass luck?  At least twice before that LTech got behind the DB and a bad throw resulted in no points.  LTech also missed a chipshot FG from a very solid kicker.  Had the ball on like the 35 before the half with a chance to go up 13 or 17-3, threw a pick, 20 yards later tied at half.  The fumbled punt inside the 10 is nothing, near turnovers happen from INT's/fumbles almost a half dozen times a game.  Or how TCU had 2nd and goal from the one and was hit for an 8 yard loss, only to be bailed out by PI from a shitty DB.  The real reason TCU didn't cover is b/c it took them about 3 minutes longer to score inside the goalline.  A 7 minute drive to go up 31-24 took 3 full minutes longer than it should have.  Had you had those 3 minutes, TCU probbaly scores to end the game and the final reads 38-24.  And finally, anyone who's arguing to go for it on 4th down with 4 minutes left for LTech is a moron.  You only want that b/c its the only realistic opportunity you'll get to get TCU another score and cover your number.  No coach with 4 minutes left and 2 TOs in his pocket goes for it inside his own 35...anyone who argues otherwise should stop capping now.

    We've all had plays where we won in the "wrong" side and lost on the "right" side.  But to point out half a dozen plays trying to reason why TCU was the right side without pointing out all the lost opportunities that Ltech also missed is just stupid.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2011 - 11:45 AM ET #61

    [Quote: Originally Posted by jjczar] I didn't see the first half.  But, based on what I saw in the 2nd half, TCU very easily could have won by more than 10.  Up 7, fumble punt inside the 10.  Then, a lucky zero coverage prayer that was answered on 3rd and long.  Other than that, very little from LT offense.  TCU moved the ball almost at will.  If LT went for it on 4th down with 3 mins left (like they should have if they were actually trying to win the game), outcome would have been different.

    It may have lost.  But, I always feel that you can not account for DTD's or those which are set up inside the 10 due to Special Teams,

    Was a decent pick.  
    [/Qu

    Well the first half was the opposite LATECH dominating up 10-3 with 2 min to go in the half and threw a pick that led to a TD for TCU with 28 seconds left in the half.Also in that 2nd half lets not forget about the zero coverage on TCU getting lucky scoring a TD.

    Bottom line is TCU wasnt covering at anytime throughout the game in 60 minutes.No they shouldnt have covered
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by jjczar] I didn't see the first half.  But, based on what I saw in the 2nd half, TCU very easily could have won by more than 10.  Up 7, fumble punt inside the 10.  Then, a lucky zero coverage prayer that was answered on 3rd and long.  Other than that, very little from LT offense.  TCU moved the ball almost at will.  If LT went for it on 4th down with 3 mins left (like they should have if they were actually trying to win the game), outcome would have been different.

    It may have lost.  But, I always feel that you can not account for DTD's or those which are set up inside the 10 due to Special Teams,

    Was a decent pick.  
    [/Qu

    Well the first half was the opposite LATECH dominating up 10-3 with 2 min to go in the half and threw a pick that led to a TD for TCU with 28 seconds left in the half.Also in that 2nd half lets not forget about the zero coverage on TCU getting lucky scoring a TD.

    Bottom line is TCU wasnt covering at anytime throughout the game in 60 minutes.No they shouldnt have covered
     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2011 - 11:48 AM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by T_Rav1088:

    I hate when people do this.  You clearly pointed out major details to support your side or if you didn't pick it, that side and left out all the significant plays which would have led to a LTech outright win.  How was the 61 yard TD pass luck?  At least twice before that LTech got behind the DB and a bad throw resulted in no points.  LTech also missed a chipshot FG from a very solid kicker.  Had the ball on like the 35 before the half with a chance to go up 13 or 17-3, threw a pick, 20 yards later tied at half.  The fumbled punt inside the 10 is nothing, near turnovers happen from INT's/fumbles almost a half dozen times a game.  Or how TCU had 2nd and goal from the one and was hit for an 8 yard loss, only to be bailed out by PI from a shitty DB.  The real reason TCU didn't cover is b/c it took them about 3 minutes longer to score inside the goalline.  A 7 minute drive to go up 31-24 took 3 full minutes longer than it should have.  Had you had those 3 minutes, TCU probbaly scores to end the game and the final reads 38-24.  And finally, anyone who's arguing to go for it on 4th down with 4 minutes left for LTech is a moron.  You only want that b/c its the only realistic opportunity you'll get to get TCU another score and cover your number.  No coach with 4 minutes left and 2 TOs in his pocket goes for it inside his own 35...anyone who argues otherwise should stop capping now.

    We've all had plays where we won in the "wrong" side and lost on the "right" side.  But to point out half a dozen plays trying to reason why TCU was the right side without pointing out all the lost opportunities that Ltech also missed is just stupid.



    Exactly people always just look at the plays that fit their arguement and forget about the turnovers they got that let to their own TDs!!
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    I hate when people do this.  You clearly pointed out major details to support your side or if you didn't pick it, that side and left out all the significant plays which would have led to a LTech outright win.  How was the 61 yard TD pass luck?  At least twice before that LTech got behind the DB and a bad throw resulted in no points.  LTech also missed a chipshot FG from a very solid kicker.  Had the ball on like the 35 before the half with a chance to go up 13 or 17-3, threw a pick, 20 yards later tied at half.  The fumbled punt inside the 10 is nothing, near turnovers happen from INT's/fumbles almost a half dozen times a game.  Or how TCU had 2nd and goal from the one and was hit for an 8 yard loss, only to be bailed out by PI from a shitty DB.  The real reason TCU didn't cover is b/c it took them about 3 minutes longer to score inside the goalline.  A 7 minute drive to go up 31-24 took 3 full minutes longer than it should have.  Had you had those 3 minutes, TCU probbaly scores to end the game and the final reads 38-24.  And finally, anyone who's arguing to go for it on 4th down with 4 minutes left for LTech is a moron.  You only want that b/c its the only realistic opportunity you'll get to get TCU another score and cover your number.  No coach with 4 minutes left and 2 TOs in his pocket goes for it inside his own 35...anyone who argues otherwise should stop capping now.

    We've all had plays where we won in the "wrong" side and lost on the "right" side.  But to point out half a dozen plays trying to reason why TCU was the right side without pointing out all the lost opportunities that Ltech also missed is just stupid.



    Exactly people always just look at the plays that fit their arguement and forget about the turnovers they got that let to their own TDs!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2011 - 12:52 PM ET #63

    roughing the kicker penalty was absurd, but thankfully got a pass interference in end -zone to make-up.  official review of the first down and then to call it fourth down when even the tv analysts said it would be tough to overturn.  fumbled punt gave them a TD.  sloppy play.  lucky for the TCU int before half or it may have been ugly.  TCU int gave them the go ahead td. TCU clearly the better team, but penalties and motivational issues, dropped passes and missed receivers and fumbles leveled the playing field.  the point spread leveled it even more.
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    roughing the kicker penalty was absurd, but thankfully got a pass interference in end -zone to make-up.  official review of the first down and then to call it fourth down when even the tv analysts said it would be tough to overturn.  fumbled punt gave them a TD.  sloppy play.  lucky for the TCU int before half or it may have been ugly.  TCU int gave them the go ahead td. TCU clearly the better team, but penalties and motivational issues, dropped passes and missed receivers and fumbles leveled the playing field.  the point spread leveled it even more.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wiredlu22:

    VegasJack... aka KeithLine.... aka Adam Chernoff

    same guy different name....  surprised he hasn't asked anyone for money yet,  but he hasn't won any games yet either....  wait until he gets a job at a sportsbook and then maybe he will start winning again.  won last year when working for a sportsbook, but got fired down in Dominican Rep


    He had SF for SNF and Marshall plus the points 
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    VegasJack... aka KeithLine.... aka Adam Chernoff

    same guy different name....  surprised he hasn't asked anyone for money yet,  but he hasn't won any games yet either....  wait until he gets a job at a sportsbook and then maybe he will start winning again.  won last year when working for a sportsbook, but got fired down in Dominican Rep


    He had SF for SNF and Marshall plus the points 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 3:05 AM ET #65

    Hooter5 Keith line was very respectable at sbr till he went tout.....whether vj2 is the same person or not is irrelevant. Posting winners is all that matter. We are all in this to beat the books.
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    Hooter5 Keith line was very respectable at sbr till he went tout.....whether vj2 is the same person or not is irrelevant. Posting winners is all that matter. We are all in this to beat the books.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 4:39 AM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by TaceroTacobell:

    I think I would call you wussie to your face, I ain't saying you don't know what your talking about chief what I'm saying is after a loss why come in and say anything except next one up and good luck. If this guy was some dipshit I wouldn't have come in here at all but he has great points in all his posts win or lose. And what's up with hating on L and L this madness you spoke cannot be true.

    No fo real cuz you wouldn't call me anything to my face, i know that for a fact. We are done with this, cuz like i said i am not here to bash. Anyway L&L, anyone of them maybe you should venture into the kitchen in the morning while they are prepping....Very pilau! I used to deliver to them here in the islands, and what i say is the truth.......P EACE....
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    I think I would call you wussie to your face, I ain't saying you don't know what your talking about chief what I'm saying is after a loss why come in and say anything except next one up and good luck. If this guy was some dipshit I wouldn't have come in here at all but he has great points in all his posts win or lose. And what's up with hating on L and L this madness you spoke cannot be true.

    No fo real cuz you wouldn't call me anything to my face, i know that for a fact. We are done with this, cuz like i said i am not here to bash. Anyway L&L, anyone of them maybe you should venture into the kitchen in the morning while they are prepping....Very pilau! I used to deliver to them here in the islands, and what i say is the truth.......P EACE....
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Rav1088:

    I hate when people do this.  You clearly pointed out major details to support your side or if you didn't pick it, that side and left out all the significant plays which would have led to a LTech outright win.  How was the 61 yard TD pass luck?  At least twice before that LTech got behind the DB and a bad throw resulted in no points.  LTech also missed a chipshot FG from a very solid kicker.  Had the ball on like the 35 before the half with a chance to go up 13 or 17-3, threw a pick, 20 yards later tied at half.  The fumbled punt inside the 10 is nothing, near turnovers happen from INT's/fumbles almost a half dozen times a game.  Or how TCU had 2nd and goal from the one and was hit for an 8 yard loss, only to be bailed out by PI from a shitty DB.  The real reason TCU didn't cover is b/c it took them about 3 minutes longer to score inside the goalline.  A 7 minute drive to go up 31-24 took 3 full minutes longer than it should have.  Had you had those 3 minutes, TCU probbaly scores to end the game and the final reads 38-24.  And finally, anyone who's arguing to go for it on 4th down with 4 minutes left for LTech is a moron.  You only want that b/c its the only realistic opportunity you'll get to get TCU another score and cover your number.  No coach with 4 minutes left and 2 TOs in his pocket goes for it inside his own 35...anyone who argues otherwise should stop capping now.

    We've all had plays where we won in the "wrong" side and lost on the "right" side.  But to point out half a dozen plays trying to reason why TCU was the right side without pointing out all the lost opportunities that Ltech also missed is just stupid.


    Point noted.  My reason for posting is that it seems like some guys are more interested in pointing out when someone posts a wrong play that looking at the positive.  From my perspective (and you can choose to disagree), VJ has posted some good information over the last week.  I have personally benefitted so I am not going to bitch when he loses one that he (again in my opinion) very easily could have won.
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    I hate when people do this.  You clearly pointed out major details to support your side or if you didn't pick it, that side and left out all the significant plays which would have led to a LTech outright win.  How was the 61 yard TD pass luck?  At least twice before that LTech got behind the DB and a bad throw resulted in no points.  LTech also missed a chipshot FG from a very solid kicker.  Had the ball on like the 35 before the half with a chance to go up 13 or 17-3, threw a pick, 20 yards later tied at half.  The fumbled punt inside the 10 is nothing, near turnovers happen from INT's/fumbles almost a half dozen times a game.  Or how TCU had 2nd and goal from the one and was hit for an 8 yard loss, only to be bailed out by PI from a shitty DB.  The real reason TCU didn't cover is b/c it took them about 3 minutes longer to score inside the goalline.  A 7 minute drive to go up 31-24 took 3 full minutes longer than it should have.  Had you had those 3 minutes, TCU probbaly scores to end the game and the final reads 38-24.  And finally, anyone who's arguing to go for it on 4th down with 4 minutes left for LTech is a moron.  You only want that b/c its the only realistic opportunity you'll get to get TCU another score and cover your number.  No coach with 4 minutes left and 2 TOs in his pocket goes for it inside his own 35...anyone who argues otherwise should stop capping now.

    We've all had plays where we won in the "wrong" side and lost on the "right" side.  But to point out half a dozen plays trying to reason why TCU was the right side without pointing out all the lost opportunities that Ltech also missed is just stupid.


    Point noted.  My reason for posting is that it seems like some guys are more interested in pointing out when someone posts a wrong play that looking at the positive.  From my perspective (and you can choose to disagree), VJ has posted some good information over the last week.  I have personally benefitted so I am not going to bitch when he loses one that he (again in my opinion) very easily could have won.
     
     
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    HW ... I go wit u L&L  fo laulau plate xtra scoop rice & mac salad sound good.  
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