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    chargerfan10
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2012 - 4:42 PM ET #201

    waaaay too many games
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    waaaay too many games
     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2012 - 4:46 PM ET #202

    Love the thread minus the drama and bullshit Boom. 

    Really like Mich St, Ga Tech, and Clemson plays...I am also leaning Michigan.

    GL this year bro

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    Love the thread minus the drama and bullshit Boom. 

    Really like Mich St, Ga Tech, and Clemson plays...I am also leaning Michigan.

    GL this year bro

     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2012 - 5:15 PM ET #203

    On FL -29 early.  surprised the line has not changed
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    On FL -29 early.  surprised the line has not changed
     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2012 - 6:29 PM ET #204

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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2012 - 7:40 PM ET #205

    Quote Originally Posted by chargerfan10:

    waaaay too many games
    Think so? I went 10-2 on opening weekend last season...just saying


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    Quote Originally Posted by chargerfan10:

    waaaay too many games
    Think so? I went 10-2 on opening weekend last season...just saying


     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2012 - 7:41 PM ET #206

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnynumbers:

    Love the thread minus the drama and bullshit Boom. 

    Really like Mich St, Ga Tech, and Clemson plays...I am also leaning Michigan.

    GL this year bro

    The Forum has some stink to it.... what can you say?

    GL this year
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnynumbers:

    Love the thread minus the drama and bullshit Boom. 

    Really like Mich St, Ga Tech, and Clemson plays...I am also leaning Michigan.

    GL this year bro

    The Forum has some stink to it.... what can you say?

    GL this year
     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2012 - 8:58 PM ET #207

    Boom a question, i have michigan +13.5, did you buy a hook? or do you recommend me to buy it? thanks!
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    Boom a question, i have michigan +13.5, did you buy a hook? or do you recommend me to buy it? thanks!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2012 - 9:07 PM ET #208

    GL Boom!  Hope you have a great season!  
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    GL Boom!  Hope you have a great season!  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2012 - 10:31 PM ET #209

    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:



    I usually have 10 games in the books before the 6 pm games start


    Boom is correct. Value is where you find it. If you can only find 2 or 3 games you think you have enough knowledge to bet on, then you should probably quit. If you only bet 2 or 3 games you either have to hit 100% or 66% to make make money each week. Thats not gonna be easy. Hitting 12 out of 20 isnt so hard......




    first of all Id like to say im not one to get into lengthy discussions on line but this makes no sense........ the less games u choose the better chance at being successful...... u have a way better chance of 60% playing 3 to 5 a week then 20 a week....or even 10 for that matter.......no disrespect because its apparent that its a topic and statement on your part that needs further clarification but 

    and I'm sure you know ur RSI but for those that dont.......

     RSI also shows you the difference between a 20-10 record and a 40-20 record. Both records are 67%, but the 40-20 record is much harder to achieve, and results in a higher RSI rating.

    anyway....GL this season Train.....ttysoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:



    I usually have 10 games in the books before the 6 pm games start


    Boom is correct. Value is where you find it. If you can only find 2 or 3 games you think you have enough knowledge to bet on, then you should probably quit. If you only bet 2 or 3 games you either have to hit 100% or 66% to make make money each week. Thats not gonna be easy. Hitting 12 out of 20 isnt so hard......




    first of all Id like to say im not one to get into lengthy discussions on line but this makes no sense........ the less games u choose the better chance at being successful...... u have a way better chance of 60% playing 3 to 5 a week then 20 a week....or even 10 for that matter.......no disrespect because its apparent that its a topic and statement on your part that needs further clarification but 

    and I'm sure you know ur RSI but for those that dont.......

     RSI also shows you the difference between a 20-10 record and a 40-20 record. Both records are 67%, but the 40-20 record is much harder to achieve, and results in a higher RSI rating.

    anyway....GL this season Train.....ttysoon
     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2012 - 11:13 PM ET #210

    people, if you dont like this thread, dont read it. Boom is not expecting money from us, favours from us, or anything. He is just sharing his knowledge, could be an awful season, could be a great season, just wish everyone a great season!
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    people, if you dont like this thread, dont read it. Boom is not expecting money from us, favours from us, or anything. He is just sharing his knowledge, could be an awful season, could be a great season, just wish everyone a great season!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2012 - 11:25 PM ET #211

    Quote Originally Posted by slomotion:


    first of all Id like to say im not one to get into lengthy discussions on line but this makes no sense........ the less games u choose the better chance at being successful...... u have a way better chance of 60% playing 3 to 5 a week then 20 a week....or even 10 for that matter.......no disrespect because its apparent that its a topic and statement on your part that needs further clarification but 

    and I'm sure you know ur RSI but for those that dont.......

     RSI also shows you the difference between a 20-10 record and a 40-20 record. Both records are 67%, but the 40-20 record is much harder to achieve, and results in a higher RSI rating.

    anyway....GL this season Train.....ttysoon

    Why do you have more chance with less games?  And I need a logical (statistical?) answer not a wordy one.  If you cap well enough to have an edge then the more you play the MORE likely you are to tend towards that edge with a larger play size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slomotion:


    first of all Id like to say im not one to get into lengthy discussions on line but this makes no sense........ the less games u choose the better chance at being successful...... u have a way better chance of 60% playing 3 to 5 a week then 20 a week....or even 10 for that matter.......no disrespect because its apparent that its a topic and statement on your part that needs further clarification but 

    and I'm sure you know ur RSI but for those that dont.......

     RSI also shows you the difference between a 20-10 record and a 40-20 record. Both records are 67%, but the 40-20 record is much harder to achieve, and results in a higher RSI rating.

    anyway....GL this season Train.....ttysoon

    Why do you have more chance with less games?  And I need a logical (statistical?) answer not a wordy one.  If you cap well enough to have an edge then the more you play the MORE likely you are to tend towards that edge with a larger play size.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2012 - 11:49 PM ET #212

    Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:


    Why do you have more chance with less games?  And I need a logical (statistical?) answer not a wordy one.  If you cap well enough to have an edge then the more you play the MORE likely you are to tend towards that edge with a larger play size.

    An aberration is much more likely in a small sample (5 games) than a larger sample (40 games). 60% is an aberration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:


    Why do you have more chance with less games?  And I need a logical (statistical?) answer not a wordy one.  If you cap well enough to have an edge then the more you play the MORE likely you are to tend towards that edge with a larger play size.

    An aberration is much more likely in a small sample (5 games) than a larger sample (40 games). 60% is an aberration.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2012 - 9:21 AM ET #213

    How about this guys: as Train said, value is where you find it - whether it's one game or a hundred on any given week.  I think this is what Boom does - and he makes his wagers accordingly by making unit wagers - more units where there is more value, fewer units where there is less relative value, but still value from his handicapping perspective.

    At the end of the day, it is the best approach becuase while we all like to say we hit 65% of our plays or whatever, at the end what really matters is how many units of cash you have won.  There are plenty of successful handicappers hitting 56-57%, but if you're playing a lot of games and adjusting your bet size based on value, will can win a lot of units. Same for only playing a few very selective games, but you must hit the higher percentage.

    Boom can correct me here on the specifics, but I think he won something like 40 units last season in CFB.  I don't care how you do it, that is a great season - if your unit size is 2% of bankroll, that's an 80% ROI in 4 months; if your unit size is 5% of bankroll, it's a 200% ROI; both of which beat the markets by a long shot ....

    GWJTF
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    How about this guys: as Train said, value is where you find it - whether it's one game or a hundred on any given week.  I think this is what Boom does - and he makes his wagers accordingly by making unit wagers - more units where there is more value, fewer units where there is less relative value, but still value from his handicapping perspective.

    At the end of the day, it is the best approach becuase while we all like to say we hit 65% of our plays or whatever, at the end what really matters is how many units of cash you have won.  There are plenty of successful handicappers hitting 56-57%, but if you're playing a lot of games and adjusting your bet size based on value, will can win a lot of units. Same for only playing a few very selective games, but you must hit the higher percentage.

    Boom can correct me here on the specifics, but I think he won something like 40 units last season in CFB.  I don't care how you do it, that is a great season - if your unit size is 2% of bankroll, that's an 80% ROI in 4 months; if your unit size is 5% of bankroll, it's a 200% ROI; both of which beat the markets by a long shot ....

    GWJTF
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2012 - 12:21 PM ET #214

    gwjtf

    my comments have nothing to do with Boom directly. Just the math behind Trains thinking. Boom as well as everyone else can play as many games as they want. No difference to me one way or the other.
    GL this year
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    gwjtf

    my comments have nothing to do with Boom directly. Just the math behind Trains thinking. Boom as well as everyone else can play as many games as they want. No difference to me one way or the other.
    GL this year
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2012 - 12:54 PM ET #215

    ZZZZZ......half is true..... you sound like a bored table games supervisor beating around the bush about basic bankroll management when playing Blackjack....lol.....granted I dont flat bet but and I have easily doubled my bankroll in college foots year after year so I dunno...... also we are not talking blackjack here so the "game of chance" we are playing is not even close to similar..... im done with topic and trashing up this thread.....

    GL Boom
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    ZZZZZ......half is true..... you sound like a bored table games supervisor beating around the bush about basic bankroll management when playing Blackjack....lol.....granted I dont flat bet but and I have easily doubled my bankroll in college foots year after year so I dunno...... also we are not talking blackjack here so the "game of chance" we are playing is not even close to similar..... im done with topic and trashing up this thread.....

    GL Boom
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2012 - 5:16 PM ET #216

    Interesting conversation we got going here guys.

    Woody - Well thought out. I always respect a well thought out response.


    Look guys, it's simple for me. I know there is always a ton of discussions on how to mange your money or how many games to play. I say this. Do what's best for you.

     I play more games for this very simple reason...... I have a larger overall knowledge of the college football landscape then most. I see " value " in what I believe to be true. What I mean is, most guys focus on one conference, and that's totally fine. There again, do whats best for you!! I may bet on more games with a larger variety. But I only do that because I follow every conference and every team whereas most guys just follow one team or one conference. Trust me, If I bet on 13 plays in week 1....it's because I like those 13 plays. I think for my " money " or my " value ", it's the best for me.



    Again I will say this. Whereas 99.99% of every covers member you will meet cares about one thing. Winning there bet, Covering the game. As with me, I do want to cover my bet dont get me wrong. But I share my thoughts and picks with you guys because I'm a purist. I write the " ten things we learned " every week because I love the game, and I feel like my " voice " for the college game needs to be heard. The game of football means more to me then money. Although I have done very well with it through the years, it's simply not the most important thing in my life. I make good money at my job and have a wonderful family. Those are the things that mean the most to me, not gambling. So I say this to all the " Perfect System Gamblers "........Do whats best for you





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    Interesting conversation we got going here guys.

    Woody - Well thought out. I always respect a well thought out response.


    Look guys, it's simple for me. I know there is always a ton of discussions on how to mange your money or how many games to play. I say this. Do what's best for you.

     I play more games for this very simple reason...... I have a larger overall knowledge of the college football landscape then most. I see " value " in what I believe to be true. What I mean is, most guys focus on one conference, and that's totally fine. There again, do whats best for you!! I may bet on more games with a larger variety. But I only do that because I follow every conference and every team whereas most guys just follow one team or one conference. Trust me, If I bet on 13 plays in week 1....it's because I like those 13 plays. I think for my " money " or my " value ", it's the best for me.



    Again I will say this. Whereas 99.99% of every covers member you will meet cares about one thing. Winning there bet, Covering the game. As with me, I do want to cover my bet dont get me wrong. But I share my thoughts and picks with you guys because I'm a purist. I write the " ten things we learned " every week because I love the game, and I feel like my " voice " for the college game needs to be heard. The game of football means more to me then money. Although I have done very well with it through the years, it's simply not the most important thing in my life. I make good money at my job and have a wonderful family. Those are the things that mean the most to me, not gambling. So I say this to all the " Perfect System Gamblers "........Do whats best for you





     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2012 - 5:23 PM ET #217

    BOL this season. I hope you kill it
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    BOL this season. I hope you kill it
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2012 - 6:05 PM ET #218

    Good luck Boom.
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    Good luck Boom.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2012 - 6:05 PM ET #219

    Good luck Boom.
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    Good luck Boom.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2012 - 7:17 PM ET #220

    love flordia,micigan,ohio st...i like ky also..good job  boom
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    love flordia,micigan,ohio st...i like ky also..good job  boom
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2012 - 7:24 PM ET #221

    Boom, any concerns on maxwell's play for Sparty? I like mich st as well, but their qb play is a big concern. 

    On that note, I group Texas in the same category. Both should D Up with home openers, but what to expect from maxwell and ash?
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    Boom, any concerns on maxwell's play for Sparty? I like mich st as well, but their qb play is a big concern. 

    On that note, I group Texas in the same category. Both should D Up with home openers, but what to expect from maxwell and ash?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2012 - 7:44 PM ET #222

    I know others have said it this really is the best thread on covers ... really helps that you're a frickin' beast when it comes to picks ... take it to the house again this year BOOM !!!

    Anna31204
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    I know others have said it this really is the best thread on covers ... really helps that you're a frickin' beast when it comes to picks ... take it to the house again this year BOOM !!!

    Anna31204
     
    badlands
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2012 - 7:53 PM ET #223

    Quote Originally Posted by anna31204:

    I know others have said it this really is the best thread on covers ... really helps that you're a frickin' beast when it comes to picks ... take it to the house again this year BOOM !!!

    Anna31204

    this is the thread of a fruity fruitloop who owes me 3k from when i wiped his bunghole on the golf course down  in south carolina last summer. 

    gl fruitloop 
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    Quote Originally Posted by anna31204:

    I know others have said it this really is the best thread on covers ... really helps that you're a frickin' beast when it comes to picks ... take it to the house again this year BOOM !!!

    Anna31204

    this is the thread of a fruity fruitloop who owes me 3k from when i wiped his bunghole on the golf course down  in south carolina last summer. 

    gl fruitloop 
     
    IgetMoney101
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2012 - 8:17 PM ET #224

    Good luck this season Boom 
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    Good luck this season Boom 
     
     
    zmanpga
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2012 - 8:21 PM ET #225

    I like all your picks!

     

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    I like all your picks!

     

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