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    Marc Lawrence Playbook

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    bitty11
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2023 - 5:09 PM ET #1

    Anybody else use the PLAYBOOK newsletter?

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    Anybody else use the PLAYBOOK newsletter?

     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2023 - 5:23 PM ET #2

    I consider it bathroom reading material. His linguistic nature and archaic speak annoys me, and I think while he has some good insight, frankly it doesnt matter if air force is 27-5 ATS all time against conference foes in november on the road if they are less than .500 and scored less than 13 points in their last game. it simply just doesnt matter. I read my black and white printed copy while on the shitttter, but no other time...there are so many better previews, of which i can help outline for you. 

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    I consider it bathroom reading material. His linguistic nature and archaic speak annoys me, and I think while he has some good insight, frankly it doesnt matter if air force is 27-5 ATS all time against conference foes in november on the road if they are less than .500 and scored less than 13 points in their last game. it simply just doesnt matter. I read my black and white printed copy while on the shitttter, but no other time...there are so many better previews, of which i can help outline for you. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2023 - 5:28 PM ET #3

    point being...  

     

    jacksonville state:  Rich Rodriguez is 7-1 SU and 8-0 ATS in his career
    when he sports a .600 exact win percentage.

    arizona: 8-2 as dogs in 2nd of BB RG’s vs opp off DD SU win

    arizona state:  ASU is 14-2-2 ATS with a win percentage of .400 > when
    seeking revenge against a foe coming off a SUATS win.

    bowling green: Over the last 11 years, the Falcons have been 47-8 SU
    when they win the stats, and 10-62 SU when they don’t.

     

    i mean, this mag is littered with stuff like this. doesnt seem like it applies to what real handicappers are looking for. 

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    point being...  

     

    jacksonville state:  Rich Rodriguez is 7-1 SU and 8-0 ATS in his career
    when he sports a .600 exact win percentage.

    arizona: 8-2 as dogs in 2nd of BB RG’s vs opp off DD SU win

    arizona state:  ASU is 14-2-2 ATS with a win percentage of .400 > when
    seeking revenge against a foe coming off a SUATS win.

    bowling green: Over the last 11 years, the Falcons have been 47-8 SU
    when they win the stats, and 10-62 SU when they don’t.

     

    i mean, this mag is littered with stuff like this. doesnt seem like it applies to what real handicappers are looking for. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2023 - 9:39 AM ET #4

    I use Pointwise, Winning Points and Northcoast newlettes

    GKR
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    I use Pointwise, Winning Points and Northcoast newlettes

     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2023 - 11:07 AM ET #5

    @xbigpappa

     again...all losing publications, but if you use the newsletters for information, stats, etc and gain a general consensus, the information can be valuable. blindly following those  newsletters has resulted in consistent 43% winning percentage, slowly draining the bankroll and numerous 4* and 5* losers, \

    good golly, they are still calling Virginia Tech "VPI"...what does that say about them...lol

    anyway, there are so many better options for information and if you insist on following or buying picks, take it with a grain of salt. RARELY...i mean rarely do they have more information than what you can obtain.

    Until the wallet is full.
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    @xbigpappa

     again...all losing publications, but if you use the newsletters for information, stats, etc and gain a general consensus, the information can be valuable. blindly following those  newsletters has resulted in consistent 43% winning percentage, slowly draining the bankroll and numerous 4* and 5* losers, \

    good golly, they are still calling Virginia Tech "VPI"...what does that say about them...lol

    anyway, there are so many better options for information and if you insist on following or buying picks, take it with a grain of salt. RARELY...i mean rarely do they have more information than what you can obtain.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2023 - 11:09 AM ET #6

    brad powers actually puts out a Fairly nice newsletter weekly, with good insight and decent plays, but he is a guy who has done the upfront work in the spring and keeps a really good pulse of things all summer long, 

    Its comical that some of these other "college football" newsletter outlets also post NFL, NBA, baseball picks...an_roll_laugh

    GTFO here with that nonsense...you cannot cap everything. 

    Until the wallet is full.
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    brad powers actually puts out a Fairly nice newsletter weekly, with good insight and decent plays, but he is a guy who has done the upfront work in the spring and keeps a really good pulse of things all summer long, 

    Its comical that some of these other "college football" newsletter outlets also post NFL, NBA, baseball picks...an_roll_laugh

    GTFO here with that nonsense...you cannot cap everything. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2023 - 8:18 PM ET #7

    I've always wondered about guys like Marc Lawrence in the chicken vs. the egg context.  Does he legitimately cap games and then use these ridiculous trends just to justify his pick, or does he look for these ridiculous trends and then make his picks based on them?  I would hope it's the former, but fear it's the latter.

     

    God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy.
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    I've always wondered about guys like Marc Lawrence in the chicken vs. the egg context.  Does he legitimately cap games and then use these ridiculous trends just to justify his pick, or does he look for these ridiculous trends and then make his picks based on them?  I would hope it's the former, but fear it's the latter.

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2023 - 2:10 PM ET #8

    i hate the "7 condition ATS play". pure data-mining.

    i used to get goldsheet on the bloomberg and i loved it........ gave me some great ideas.

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    i hate the "7 condition ATS play". pure data-mining.

    i used to get goldsheet on the bloomberg and i loved it........ gave me some great ideas.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2023 - 2:11 PM ET #9

    i should add that i do like Marc's little paragraphs on each team. very succint.

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    i should add that i do like Marc's little paragraphs on each team. very succint.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2023 - 11:13 PM ET #10

    @bluecompass

     Marcs stuff is all about marketing....the only think I will even look at is his 5 * plays after 2 months of footballpeace_5

    - The storms will come, the storms will pass -
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    @bluecompass

     Marcs stuff is all about marketing....the only think I will even look at is his 5 * plays after 2 months of footballpeace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2023 - 11:16 PM ET #11

    @xbigpappa

     The only thing I use with Pointwise is their mathematical rate guide from November - SB. 

    - The storms will come, the storms will pass -
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    @xbigpappa

     The only thing I use with Pointwise is their mathematical rate guide from November - SB. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2023 - 6:06 AM ET #12

    To me, use your eyes to see what a team does/doesn't do, create your own databases based upon what you feel is important and use sound money management.  At least that way, one might have a chance at a good/very good season, fail to do that (imho) will result in mediocre results which we all know means failure/losing money.

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    To me, use your eyes to see what a team does/doesn't do, create your own databases based upon what you feel is important and use sound money management.  At least that way, one might have a chance at a good/very good season, fail to do that (imho) will result in mediocre results which we all know means failure/losing money.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2023 - 7:21 AM ET #13

    I use the picks in the newsletters as games not to play or fade.  I suggest reading “How I make $200,000 every year betting football”.  I read it 30 years ago before the internet and YouTube existed.  Mr. Pappas listed the newsletters back then as one of his tools.  About 40% of the info in that book is now dated, but I find some of his strategies still useful in 2023.

    GKR
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    I use the picks in the newsletters as games not to play or fade.  I suggest reading “How I make $200,000 every year betting football”.  I read it 30 years ago before the internet and YouTube existed.  Mr. Pappas listed the newsletters back then as one of his tools.  About 40% of the info in that book is now dated, but I find some of his strategies still useful in 2023.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2023 - 11:10 AM ET #14

    @steponaduck

     Marc Lawrence picks are clearly the result of someone who knows nothing about the perils of "data mining".  When you introduce more than a few variables into any search, the results become more and more random and less and less predictive.  With every new variable entered, the results become worthless.  Steponaduck is correct when he refers to this kind of data as "bathroom material".

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    @steponaduck

     Marc Lawrence picks are clearly the result of someone who knows nothing about the perils of "data mining".  When you introduce more than a few variables into any search, the results become more and more random and less and less predictive.  With every new variable entered, the results become worthless.  Steponaduck is correct when he refers to this kind of data as "bathroom material".

     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2023 - 1:27 AM ET #15

    @steponaduck

     Wat are some other good previews??

     

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     Wat are some other good previews??

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2023 - 2:37 PM ET #16

    Phil steele

    brad powers

    the transfer portal preview 

    “pick six” preview

    vsin college football preview 

     

    pods:

    BBOC college football 

    bet the board

    hit the books 

     

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    Phil steele

    brad powers

    the transfer portal preview 

    “pick six” preview

    vsin college football preview 

     

    pods:

    BBOC college football 

    bet the board

    hit the books 

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by steponaduck:

    Phil steele brad powers the transfer portal preview  “pick six” preview vsin college football preview    pods: BBOC college football  bet the board hit the books
    I bought my first Steele mag back in 2002. It's the best preview mag I've found, especially for capping the first month of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steponaduck:

    Phil steele brad powers the transfer portal preview  “pick six” preview vsin college football preview    pods: BBOC college football  bet the board hit the books
    I bought my first Steele mag back in 2002. It's the best preview mag I've found, especially for capping the first month of the season.

     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2023 - 12:30 PM ET #18

    @THEMUGG

     for sure...phil stteele is an absolute must...i think the other members of the forum were asking for "other" previews, and capping literature/podcast content.

    Until the wallet is full.
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    @THEMUGG

     for sure...phil stteele is an absolute must...i think the other members of the forum were asking for "other" previews, and capping literature/podcast content.

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