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    LSU vs Bama the way I see it...

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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 11:01 AM ET #151

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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 11:06 AM ET #152

    Quote Originally Posted by -29-:

    Good stuff Tappy, you did as good a job of keeping it fair as could be expected from a 'Bama guy.   - You are among several rational people in here, who think the same way. Others seem to take the homer thing too seriously, and they get added to the list of people who get ignored really fast. It's a mortal sin to post positive things about your team in here, and be from that state, and have a Bama avatar. LOL! 

     A few observations;

    QB - LSU has the edge in this category.

    Maybe so but the advantage is not as great as some would lead you to believe.McCarron is pretty much a strictly play action QB, he relies on Richardson/Lacy and throws far fewer first and second down passes than the LSU QBs who are in a more pass friendly offense.This diminishes McCarrons stats a bit in my opinion. - LSU is pretty dangerous with that play action as well... They have had a lot of their deep balls come from play actin situations. I will agree that AJ is a bit underrated, you can't deny that he hasn't faced a secondary like this all season,  but you also can't deny that he is a great QB. So how well he does in this game, is a big ?, and I am anxious to see how it works out. 

     

    RB - Large Edge Alabama here...

     Again the advantage is not as great as what one might think. 'Bama will not be able to run through this D-line like they are used to doing and LSU with Ware and Ford running behind their O-line will be better than anything that 'Bama has faced thus far.- I agree totally, and the same goes for our offensive line vs their defensive line. They don't have the LB's to support their D line though, and that is a good reason why I like this matchup. 

    Special teams - Huge edge LSU...

    I agree, and catching 4 1/2 - 5 points in a low scoring game when you have a huge advantage in special teams is like  in the bank. 

    Yeah, the game of field position is going to be key in this game. We have got to be balanced, and have long drives with key third down completions, and our D has to stop that from happening. It remains to be seen, whether or not we will be able to. I hope and pray. Thank you sir for the thoughts, and best of luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by -29-:

    Good stuff Tappy, you did as good a job of keeping it fair as could be expected from a 'Bama guy.   - You are among several rational people in here, who think the same way. Others seem to take the homer thing too seriously, and they get added to the list of people who get ignored really fast. It's a mortal sin to post positive things about your team in here, and be from that state, and have a Bama avatar. LOL! 

     A few observations;

    QB - LSU has the edge in this category.

    Maybe so but the advantage is not as great as some would lead you to believe.McCarron is pretty much a strictly play action QB, he relies on Richardson/Lacy and throws far fewer first and second down passes than the LSU QBs who are in a more pass friendly offense.This diminishes McCarrons stats a bit in my opinion. - LSU is pretty dangerous with that play action as well... They have had a lot of their deep balls come from play actin situations. I will agree that AJ is a bit underrated, you can't deny that he hasn't faced a secondary like this all season,  but you also can't deny that he is a great QB. So how well he does in this game, is a big ?, and I am anxious to see how it works out. 

     

    RB - Large Edge Alabama here...

     Again the advantage is not as great as what one might think. 'Bama will not be able to run through this D-line like they are used to doing and LSU with Ware and Ford running behind their O-line will be better than anything that 'Bama has faced thus far.- I agree totally, and the same goes for our offensive line vs their defensive line. They don't have the LB's to support their D line though, and that is a good reason why I like this matchup. 

    Special teams - Huge edge LSU...

    I agree, and catching 4 1/2 - 5 points in a low scoring game when you have a huge advantage in special teams is like  in the bank. 

    Yeah, the game of field position is going to be key in this game. We have got to be balanced, and have long drives with key third down completions, and our D has to stop that from happening. It remains to be seen, whether or not we will be able to. I hope and pray. Thank you sir for the thoughts, and best of luck!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 11:08 AM ET #153

    Quote Originally Posted by bdog73:

    I didnt read the entire thread but I agree with you that nobody scores more than 17 against Bama's D. However, I think LSU's D will score more than once and win the game by 6.

    Good luck to you though   

    That's a pretty bold statement lol... LSU is amazing when it comes to turnovers, no doubt. Keep in mind, Saban has a very disciplined team, and they are very fundamentally sound team. AJ only has 3 ints on the year, and our boys don't put the ball on the ground. Best of luck to you though sir! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdog73:

    I didnt read the entire thread but I agree with you that nobody scores more than 17 against Bama's D. However, I think LSU's D will score more than once and win the game by 6.

    Good luck to you though   

    That's a pretty bold statement lol... LSU is amazing when it comes to turnovers, no doubt. Keep in mind, Saban has a very disciplined team, and they are very fundamentally sound team. AJ only has 3 ints on the year, and our boys don't put the ball on the ground. Best of luck to you though sir! 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 11:12 AM ET #154

    I am only going to say this once. If you don't like what I am saying, don't read it, and keep your thoughts to yourself. There are plenty of other threads in here for you to visit. If you want to talk about this game in a respectful fashion, like most people in here have done, you are welcome to respond. But if you are going to call me a "homer", and simply assume that everything I say is biased and wrong, then you can simply GTFO! I WILL NOT respond to you in any way form or fashion, and you are wasting your time in here. 
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    I am only going to say this once. If you don't like what I am saying, don't read it, and keep your thoughts to yourself. There are plenty of other threads in here for you to visit. If you want to talk about this game in a respectful fashion, like most people in here have done, you are welcome to respond. But if you are going to call me a "homer", and simply assume that everything I say is biased and wrong, then you can simply GTFO! I WILL NOT respond to you in any way form or fashion, and you are wasting your time in here. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 12:17 PM ET #155

    Quote Originally Posted by WhoDatWinDat27:

    Only 3 more days my friends

    And I absolutely cannot wait! I am setting up the projectors, and buying all the meat today! 
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    Only 3 more days my friends

    And I absolutely cannot wait! I am setting up the projectors, and buying all the meat today! 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 12:33 PM ET #156

    Bama has a clear advantage with their OL (and that should be enough to win) but that's IT in this game.  No reason for Bama to think they have a layup here.  Chavis is just simply too good at figuring out solutions.

    Predict LSU to bend but not break up front and keep throwing bodies at Trent.  Also thinking, Bama might get tired in the fourth Q   LSU plays a physical game and most teams simply give up in the fourth Q.  Has Bama ever had to play 60 minutes against a fast and physical team?

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    Bama has a clear advantage with their OL (and that should be enough to win) but that's IT in this game.  No reason for Bama to think they have a layup here.  Chavis is just simply too good at figuring out solutions.

    Predict LSU to bend but not break up front and keep throwing bodies at Trent.  Also thinking, Bama might get tired in the fourth Q   LSU plays a physical game and most teams simply give up in the fourth Q.  Has Bama ever had to play 60 minutes against a fast and physical team?

     
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    all I got to say is who is ready to come out and play their hearts out... Alabama edge at home court -3 pts.  Both team are great.... that why they #1 and # 2  leave all the past game out.. this is the game they should only concentrate...this whole game.. will be close.. vegas like to keep it close and interesting.. i say no more than 10 pts lead on each team.. final prediction going to be around  23-20 Alabama 24-20 Alabama  or and upset would be LSU 24-23 last FG.. u know vegas like to hype it up...
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    all I got to say is who is ready to come out and play their hearts out... Alabama edge at home court -3 pts.  Both team are great.... that why they #1 and # 2  leave all the past game out.. this is the game they should only concentrate...this whole game.. will be close.. vegas like to keep it close and interesting.. i say no more than 10 pts lead on each team.. final prediction going to be around  23-20 Alabama 24-20 Alabama  or and upset would be LSU 24-23 last FG.. u know vegas like to hype it up...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 12:45 PM ET #158

    And see LSU playing quite a big of ball hog themselves.  I see LSU scoring as much as they like.  In fact, I see one of LSU's challenges being to slow down the scoring drives to keep Bama defense on the field
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    And see LSU playing quite a big of ball hog themselves.  I see LSU scoring as much as they like.  In fact, I see one of LSU's challenges being to slow down the scoring drives to keep Bama defense on the field
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 12:47 PM ET #159

    Did I hear on the radio that there are 40 NFL players in this game and 20 of them are going to matter.
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    Did I hear on the radio that there are 40 NFL players in this game and 20 of them are going to matter.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 12:51 PM ET #160

    Also, the big Bama OL advantgage is mostly in the Interior and a little easier to stack and defend on.  LSU's got them on the edges.
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    Also, the big Bama OL advantgage is mostly in the Interior and a little easier to stack and defend on.  LSU's got them on the edges.
     
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    What is amazing about LSU defense is they are so aware and have good anticipation.  Been coached up and they swarm on the ball.  They know where they are supposed to be on the field and know where the ball is going.  No mistakes.

    And the guys from sportscenter last night said it........... in these big games, it's who loses more than who wins. 

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    What is amazing about LSU defense is they are so aware and have good anticipation.  Been coached up and they swarm on the ball.  They know where they are supposed to be on the field and know where the ball is going.  No mistakes.

    And the guys from sportscenter last night said it........... in these big games, it's who loses more than who wins. 

     
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    Also in regards to the Bama OL matchup.............. Bama not gonna push them like other teams...... LSU defense gets to practice against the LSU offense which, in my opinion, is way more potent than Bama's.
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    Also in regards to the Bama OL matchup.............. Bama not gonna push them like other teams...... LSU defense gets to practice against the LSU offense which, in my opinion, is way more potent than Bama's.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

    Bama has a clear advantage with their OL (and that should be enough to win) but that's IT in this game.  No reason for Bama to think they have a layup here.  Chavis is just simply too good at figuring out solutions. - I don't think that Bama thinks that at all, and if they did, I don't think that would be the main reason. Bama has plenty more weapons to work with in this game, other than Trent and the Oline. If you think AJ is gonna have this terrible game, and not be able to complete a single pass, or throw for a TD you are insane. 

    Predict LSU to bend but not break up front and keep throwing bodies at Trent.  Also thinking, Bama might get tired in the fourth Q   LSU plays a physical game and most teams simply give up in the fourth Q.  Has Bama ever had to play 60 minutes against a fast and physical team?

     
    I have pointed this out, but Bama is the more physical of these two teams. If a team wears out in the 4th quarter, it will be LSU, not Bama.... And the answer to your question is no, but in the same regard, has LSU?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

    Bama has a clear advantage with their OL (and that should be enough to win) but that's IT in this game.  No reason for Bama to think they have a layup here.  Chavis is just simply too good at figuring out solutions. - I don't think that Bama thinks that at all, and if they did, I don't think that would be the main reason. Bama has plenty more weapons to work with in this game, other than Trent and the Oline. If you think AJ is gonna have this terrible game, and not be able to complete a single pass, or throw for a TD you are insane. 

    Predict LSU to bend but not break up front and keep throwing bodies at Trent.  Also thinking, Bama might get tired in the fourth Q   LSU plays a physical game and most teams simply give up in the fourth Q.  Has Bama ever had to play 60 minutes against a fast and physical team?

     
    I have pointed this out, but Bama is the more physical of these two teams. If a team wears out in the 4th quarter, it will be LSU, not Bama.... And the answer to your question is no, but in the same regard, has LSU?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by NgonCao:

    all I got to say is who is ready to come out and play their hearts out... Alabama edge at home court -3 pts.  Both team are great.... that why they #1 and # 2  leave all the past game out.. this is the game they should only concentrate...this whole game.. will be close.. vegas like to keep it close and interesting.. i say no more than 10 pts lead on each team.. final prediction going to be around  23-20 Alabama 24-20 Alabama  or and upset would be LSU 24-23 last FG.. u know vegas like to hype it up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NgonCao:

    all I got to say is who is ready to come out and play their hearts out... Alabama edge at home court -3 pts.  Both team are great.... that why they #1 and # 2  leave all the past game out.. this is the game they should only concentrate...this whole game.. will be close.. vegas like to keep it close and interesting.. i say no more than 10 pts lead on each team.. final prediction going to be around  23-20 Alabama 24-20 Alabama  or and upset would be LSU 24-23 last FG.. u know vegas like to hype it up...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

    And see LSU playing quite a big of ball hog themselves.  I see LSU scoring as much as they like.  In fact, I see one of LSU's challenges being to slow down the scoring drives to keep Bama defense on the field

    Well you are seeing it wrong... That would require complete success in the run game, and that WILL NOT HAPPEN against our rush defense. The run game will get shut down, and those drives you are dreaming about, will not happen. Sorry...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

    And see LSU playing quite a big of ball hog themselves.  I see LSU scoring as much as they like.  In fact, I see one of LSU's challenges being to slow down the scoring drives to keep Bama defense on the field

    Well you are seeing it wrong... That would require complete success in the run game, and that WILL NOT HAPPEN against our rush defense. The run game will get shut down, and those drives you are dreaming about, will not happen. Sorry...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 1:19 PM ET #166

    Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

    Also, the big Bama OL advantgage is mostly in the Interior and a little easier to stack and defend on.  LSU's got them on the edges.

    Wrong again... Barret Jones is probably the best offensive tackle in college football, and DJ Fluker is 6'6 330lbs. 
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    Also, the big Bama OL advantgage is mostly in the Interior and a little easier to stack and defend on.  LSU's got them on the edges.

    Wrong again... Barret Jones is probably the best offensive tackle in college football, and DJ Fluker is 6'6 330lbs. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

    What is amazing about LSU defense is they are so aware and have good anticipation.  Been coached up and they swarm on the ball.  They know where they are supposed to be on the field and know where the ball is going.  No mistakes.

    And the guys from sportscenter last night said it........... in these big games, it's who loses more than who wins. 


    The same can be said for Bama's defense. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

    What is amazing about LSU defense is they are so aware and have good anticipation.  Been coached up and they swarm on the ball.  They know where they are supposed to be on the field and know where the ball is going.  No mistakes.

    And the guys from sportscenter last night said it........... in these big games, it's who loses more than who wins. 


    The same can be said for Bama's defense. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 1:21 PM ET #168

    Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

    Also in regards to the Bama OL matchup.............. Bama not gonna push them like other teams...... LSU defense gets to practice against the LSU offense which, in my opinion, is way more potent than Bama's.
    Not saying that they will, but Trent and the Oline will have success in this game. 
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    Also in regards to the Bama OL matchup.............. Bama not gonna push them like other teams...... LSU defense gets to practice against the LSU offense which, in my opinion, is way more potent than Bama's.
    Not saying that they will, but Trent and the Oline will have success in this game. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 1:22 PM ET #169

    Who's got access to Mock Draft?

    Trent goes first but then the next 10 is all LSU.

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    Trent goes first but then the next 10 is all LSU.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 1:22 PM ET #170

    666 post for Tappy! Yay! 
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 1:23 PM ET #171

    Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:


    Wrong again... Barret Jones is probably the best offensive tackle in college football, and DJ Fluker is 6'6 330lbs. 

    Weight is not the only factor............. Mingo runs a 4.5

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    Wrong again... Barret Jones is probably the best offensive tackle in college football, and DJ Fluker is 6'6 330lbs. 

    Weight is not the only factor............. Mingo runs a 4.5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 1:24 PM ET #172

    Drake Nevis wasn't even 6' 2"
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 1:24 PM ET #173

    Height isn't necessarily a positive on OL by the way.
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 1:27 PM ET #174

    Did I see something about Kuandidijo out?......... Isn't that Fluker's backup?

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    Did I see something about Kuandidijo out?......... Isn't that Fluker's backup?

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 1:30 PM ET #175

    Bama wins because of this guy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArRtnDjwLp4

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArRtnDjwLp4

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