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Tappy

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 3:15 PM ET #201

Quote Originally Posted by TurnstoneMoney:

Yeah, but those games mean nothing to me as well. Those aren't pressure games. It should concern you, because to me, he is the deciding factor in this game. Lee and Jefferson have played and won in games like this. This is 10x bigger then anything your QB has come close to playing. - I agree with you, but as I said, he has given me no reason to think that he will struggle in this game. He is an excellent game manager, and he doesn't make mistakes. I could be completely wrong... I have in the past, but until he gives me a reason to suspect he isn't everything we need him to be, I am going to have all the confidence in the world with my QB.

. What happens if Trent can't find holes and he's forced to throw...no doubt LSU's defense has holes, but they also have shown they can expose people who can't react to their defense quick enough. - This is a key factor in this game. I am anxious to see how well AJ manages it. As I said, I do believe there will be times when the run game is shut down.

You can't act like that isn't a concern...

I still don't call it a "concearn"... I call it an interesting matchup, and the better, more focused team will come out on top.

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 3:22 PM ET #202

LSU all day and thank you for the +pts too.......

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 3:26 PM ET #203

Quote Originally Posted by ryan8186:

A young QB playing in the biggest game of his life does not concern you? Doesn't bother you in the slightest bit? - As I said before... I have all the confidence in the world with AJ. He has not given me one reason to doubt him all season long. Every question that anyone has asked about him, has been answered.

You keep bringing up West Virginia put up 500 yards on LSU 463 to be exact) So what? Guess what, LSU still won the damn game! In SEC Games only LSU leads the SEC in pass Defense and Alabama is third. LSU is giving up 119 yard per game and bama is giving up 148 per game. In football fluke shit happens, like the WVU game. What you fail to mention in that game is they forced 4 turnovers (2 INTs) and still beat them by 25. - Regardless of who played who, and when they played, the point still stands. There are some gaping holes in the LSU defense. I will take the reasoning of that to the grave, and I hope that it's a sign that AJ will be able to take what that defense gives him, and help win this game. If you just think that he is going to get completely shut down, and never complete a pass, or not throw one in for a TD, you have some major issues. And I already addressed the turnover situation between these two teams... I am not going to do it again.

If you are hanging you hat on AJ McCarron throwing for 300+ then bama will lose. That is not their game. If he throws for that much it will mean they are down and will probably be forcing throws and turn it over. Hmmm....similar to what WVU did. So the 463 yards in passing has no merit in my opinion for this game because Bama will never throw enough to get that high and if they do it is because they are down. - I am certainly not saying that AJ will get that many yards, but I think he will have the opportunity to do what it takes to help the Tide win this game. Also, what WV did vs what I think Bama can do, is completely situational. I am not trying to say that the same situations will occur that occurred in that game, and it will allow Bama to rack up that many yards on LSU. Bama will play Bama football, and this defense they are up against isn't invulnerable.

I also stick to the point I made where I stated that there is no way in HELL that ANY TEAM in college football would put up 500 yards on Bama's defense. That is the same defense that our offense goes up against in practice every day...

Fluke shit happens in football, doesn't make LSU any worse on defending the pass. Hell the Saints lost to the Rams this past weekend...bad!

I agree totally... As I said, very situational.

Fluke shit happens in football, doesn't make LSU any worse on defending the pass. Hell the Saints lost to the Rams this past weekend...bad!

I agree totally... As I said, very situational.

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 3:26 PM ET #204

Quote Originally Posted by choiOi:

LSU all day and thank you for the +pts too.......

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 3:47 PM ET #205

Tappy, sent you friend request, would like to ask you something off of her. Thanks

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 3:52 PM ET #206

I really can't wait for Tappy to eat crow after this game. The way he talks you would think Green Bay couldn't beat his crimson elephants

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 4:09 PM ET #207

Quote Originally Posted by petelapot:

Tappy, sent you friend request, would like to ask you something off of her. Thanks

Accepted, ask away my friend

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 4:10 PM ET #208

Quote Originally Posted by ryan8186:

I really can't wait for Tappy to eat crow after this game. The way he talks you would think Green Bay couldn't beat his crimson elephants

After Bama wins, I will make a celebration threat, just for you

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 4:12 PM ET #209

Haha...bring it on.

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 4:16 PM ET #210

Couple of thoughts from a TX fan, far, far away from the SEC.

1. Line is creeping up, which may be sharps driving public up to hammer LSU late

2. McCarron against a top 5 defense seems difficult. These big games always come down to qb play, not rb play. He will have to make plays and has some pretty bad picks this year. McElroy at least didn't make mistakes.

3. Giving up 500 yds to WV is extremely misleading. They were up 3 scores by the half and backed off. And on the road in a much more unfamiliar environment as they knew WV couldn't score regularly.

4. Saban can get outcoached - I know it's sacrilege to Bama fans. And Tappy---please look at the NFL product that Duane Akina has sent off before Saban is such a secondary genius. Saban's vaunted secondary couldn't handle Jordan Shipley two years ago from a frosh qb. Love me some Dre Kirk of course (who chose you guys over TX).

5. Dual qbs rarely work in big games---the only recent exception was FL vs OSU. Bunch of average qbs between both these squads.

6. Games like this typically suck. The real GOY was USC vs Stanford last week where there were 2 real qbs.

No lean as of yet. Waiting on line movement.

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 4:25 PM ET #211

I've been called a homer many a times, and I don't mind discussion but this is absurd. AJ "biggest" game came against Penn St @ Happy Valley. We later found out that Penn St is not a good football team, at all.

You say that LSU is going to stack the box and give Trent and Ed problems at times but AJ's ability and play is not a concern for you.

What are your concerns?

Please rename thread to " Alabama game, the way it is going to happen"

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 4:37 PM ET #212

Quote Originally Posted by kroch:

Couple of thoughts from a TX fan, far, far away from the SEC.

1. Line is creeping up, which may be sharps driving public up to hammer LSU late

2. McCarron against a top 5 defense seems difficult. These big games always come down to qb play, not rb play. He will have to make plays and has some pretty bad picks this year. McElroy at least didn't make mistakes. - I wouldn't look into the picks... His first two were in the opening game, and were bounced off receivers hands, and he was in a QB competition. After that he threw 154 passes without a TD, which was 4th best in school history. The thing to remember about the Tenn pick, is that he didn't let it get to him. He stepped up as a leader, and after the pick, he had the best game of his career. I am in no way worried about him in this game... If you want to look at a QB more likely to go into a pick fest, look at Lee. He hasn't faced a legit defense either...

3. Giving up 500 yds to WV is extremely misleading. They were up 3 scores by the half and backed off. And on the road in a much more unfamiliar environment as they knew WV couldn't score regularly. - I agree that is very situational, but I guarantee you, there isn't a team in the nation that can put up 500 on our D. I am just simply stating that LSU's defense isn't invulnerable.

4. Saban can get outcoached - I know it's sacrilege to Bama fans. And Tappy---please look at the NFL product that Duane Akina has sent off before Saban is such a secondary genius. Saban's vaunted secondary couldn't handle Jordan Shipley two years ago from a frosh qb. Love me some Dre Kirk of course (who chose you guys over TX). He has an impressive record, no doubt about it, but he is no Saban I am sorry sir. Saban currently has two #1 NFL draft picks in the secondary. Barron, and Kirkpatrick.

5. Dual qbs rarely work in big games---the only recent exception was FL vs OSU. Bunch of average qbs between both these squads. - It is working GREAT for LSU right now, and I am a bit scared of Jefferson, not gonna lie.

6. Games like this typically suck. The real GOY was USC vs Stanford last week where there were 2 real qbs. - LOL! You can't be serious, can you? I guess you say that because it went into overtime? I found a lot more excitement out of the Wisconsin, Michigan st game. USC isn't even raked, and Stanford struggled against them. Alabama or LSU would absolutely humiliate either of those teams, and that includes Ok st, and Boise.

No lean as of yet. Waiting on line movement.

Thanks for the thoughts! BOL!

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 4:44 PM ET #213

Quote Originally Posted by lsufasteddie:

I've been called a homer many a times, and I don't mind discussion but this is absurd. AJ "biggest" game came against Penn St @ Happy Valley. We later found out that Penn St is not a good football team, at all. - Why, because someone is making valid points, that you don't consider valid, and go against your thinking? That's just plain bias homerism right? If you can't handle it just GTFO man. And the thing to remember is that during that game, he performed just like he was supposed to. He didn't struggle, so why would I assume that things would be any different in this game?

You say that LSU is going to stack the box and give Trent and Ed problems at times but AJ's ability and play is not a concern for you.

What are your concerns? - Reuben Randal , and our secondary being able to contain him. JJ, and his ability as a dual threat QB. LSU special teams, and their ability to control field position, despite Bama's ability to control field position in this game. Those things concern me...

Please rename thread to " Alabama game, the way it is going to happen"

Just as much as I have said I think this will happen with Bama, I have stated that I am excited to see how things will happen, and I am not sure how they will turn out. Once again, if you can't take it GTFO!

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 4:48 PM ET #214

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 4:53 PM ET #215

Aside from the dominance in the trenches, the LSU defense as a unit is
one big, fast, mean, nasty, disruptive force. Of the 503 offensive
plays run against LSU, FORTY percent of those have ended in tackles
for loss, incompletions or turnovers. Think about it. How would your
day be if 40% of the things you did ended badly?

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 5:09 PM ET #216

Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:

So now LSU's defense has gaping holes? You are something else- They gave up 463 yds against West Virginia because they spent most of the game playing a soft zone in nickel coverage, keeping W. Virginia's receivers in front of them. They gave them lots of passes underneath. W. Virginia threw the ball 65 times and has receivers that can fly- Bama hasn't played any prolific offenses this year. To keep bringing that up is pointless. It should be a good game but i can't wait to see how Bama's QB plays against the LSU secondary. Especially if LSU can keep Bama's running game in check. That will be the key to this game. - Bama hasn't? I thought they played Arkansas, and shut them down? We saw what they are capable of against Texas AM. (Tyler Wilson threw for more than 500 yards alone, against Texas AM. QB's from Baylor, Texas Tech, and Oklahoma St didn't get that many yards, and that is RG3 included. Those are some of the most high powered offenses in all of college football, with some of the best QB's, and they didn't do what Arkansas did to them. ) I am also excited to see how AJ does against that secondary, but I don't see it being an issue when I can see him passing well, and that takes pressure off Trent.

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 5:12 PM ET #217

Quote Originally Posted by lsufasteddie:

Aside from the dominance in the trenches, the LSU defense as a unit is
one big, fast, mean, nasty, disruptive force. Of the 503 offensive
plays run against LSU, FORTY percent of those have ended in tackles
for loss, incompletions or turnovers. Think about it. How would your
day be if 40% of the things you did ended badly?

I will let the top ranked offense in the SEC answer that for me Saturday.

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 5:14 PM ET #218

Go with Alabama to win from between 3 to 7 points.

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 5:46 PM ET #219

I know Arkansas can be explosive but i think they are highly overranked. Everybody puts up points against Texas A&M. They have one of the worst defenses in the country. They give up tons of yardage to everyone, not just Arkansas. You act like the Hogs were the only team to put up any yards against them. Vandy had the game won and found a way to gift wrap it and give it away. The Hogs do not impress me. So you think the Alabama WR's are going to get open long enough for him to get them the ball? I don't but they might get a couple of big plays simply because LSU is so concerned about the run. Not because the Alabama passing game is good. Guess we'll just have to wait until the game is played. Good luck!

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 5:57 PM ET #220

Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:

I know Arkansas can be explosive but i think they are highly overranked. Everybody puts up points against Texas A&M. They have one of the worst defenses in the country. They give up tons of yardage to everyone, not just Arkansas. You act like the Hogs were the only team to put up any yards against them. Vandy had the game won and found a way to gift wrap it and give it away. The Hogs do not impress me. So you think the Alabama WR's are going to get open long enough for him to get them the ball? I don't but they might get a couple of big plays simply because LSU is so concerned about the run. Not because the Alabama passing game is good. Guess we'll just have to wait until the game is played. Good luck!

The point is, they are capable of doing this, and they didn't against us. There have been teams that shut WV down, and they didn't put up the 500 against. It's all very situational, and hard to make a point from it. When it comes down to things like this, and you try to make points about teams and how good they are vs other teams, it rarely works out.

And yes I do think that will happen with the passing game, but as you said, we will see...

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 7:02 PM ET #221

"6. Games like this typically suck. The real GOY was USC vs Stanford last week where there were 2 real qbs. - LOL! You can't be serious, can you? I guess you say that because it went into overtime? I found a lot more excitement out of the Wisconsin, Michigan st game. USC isn't even raked, and Stanford struggled against them. Alabama or LSU would absolutely humiliate either of those teams, and that includes Ok st, and Boise. "

Even without OT that game will be 10x more exciting than the one come Saturday that ends 14-10, 17-14, something like that.

If Luck was LSU's qb, Bama would lose by 3TDs.

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 7:07 PM ET #222

Quote Originally Posted by kroch:

"6. Games like this typically suck. The real GOY was USC vs Stanford last week where there were 2 real qbs. - LOL! You can't be serious, can you? I guess you say that because it went into overtime? I found a lot more excitement out of the Wisconsin, Michigan st game. USC isn't even raked, and Stanford struggled against them. Alabama or LSU would absolutely humiliate either of those teams, and that includes Ok st, and Boise. "

Even without OT that game will be 10x more exciting than the one come Saturday that ends 14-10, 17-14, something like that. - Yeah, I saw a few high school games that were more exciting than a game that will be low scoring. However, with all the implications that are surrounding this game, there won't be a single person who watches college football not be paying close, hyped up attention to every snap in this game. We don't need to light up the score board, and have some crazy OT shit happen to be impressive in the game of the century!

If Luck was LSU's qb, Bama would lose by 3TDs.

IF I didn't have a dick, I would be a woman... But what's the point?

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 7:55 PM ET #223

Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:

I can't argue with anything you say whilst having that avatar lol... However, I like what you are saying. Bama wins, you make money, I do the happy drunk pickle dance all night long!

that will do for our saturday afternoon