i like TEX but not over -25, i will not give the 31...
Make a good point and Texas should have one of the best backfields, talent and depth wise in the country. I say you need to be checked, but shit who am I kidding I'll probably end up throwing a unit on them at whatever like I always do....BOL this year
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Quote Originally Posted by QBoption:
nice to hear from a Horns fan...
only reason i like this one:
wyo not a great wk1 team
wyo not much DEF
wyo not great vs teams with run game+DEF
i like TEX but not over -25, i will not give the 31...
Make a good point and Texas should have one of the best backfields, talent and depth wise in the country. I say you need to be checked, but shit who am I kidding I'll probably end up throwing a unit on them at whatever like I always do....BOL this year
i like TEX but not over -25, i will not give the 31...
QB - I agree with you and hornyfrog. Like HF, I have lost on Texas as well. I think 25 and better is a good number. I doubt it will be that low. But, if it is, I may jump on it as well. I think Ash will be a more confident QB this year. Shipley and Davis should be good at WR, in Harsin's 2nd year. Our RB's, at least on paper, could be the best in the Nation. Our OL has gotten "more SEC like" meaning tougher. Our D should be lights out. As a UT Homer, I have decided to lay off UT until the Ole Miss game in week 3. But, if 25 and under, I will take my Longhorns. As Corley pointed out in an earlier thread, Wyoming has had major problems stopping the run. I doubt Wyoming will score more than 7. I think Texas will score a TD on its first 4 possessions. But, Mack Brown is a nice guy. Christenesen is a good coach and his players will play for him to the bitter end. Those two factors scare me for a potential back door cover. In my opinion, as bad as Texas as underachieved for the last 2 years, there should be no mercy on any one...we won't be back (to Texas standards) unless we go at least 11-1 in 2012.
LonghornHoosier
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Quote Originally Posted by QBoption:
nice to hear from a Horns fan...
only reason i like this one:
wyo not a great wk1 team
wyo not much DEF
wyo not great vs teams with run game+DEF
i like TEX but not over -25, i will not give the 31...
QB - I agree with you and hornyfrog. Like HF, I have lost on Texas as well. I think 25 and better is a good number. I doubt it will be that low. But, if it is, I may jump on it as well. I think Ash will be a more confident QB this year. Shipley and Davis should be good at WR, in Harsin's 2nd year. Our RB's, at least on paper, could be the best in the Nation. Our OL has gotten "more SEC like" meaning tougher. Our D should be lights out. As a UT Homer, I have decided to lay off UT until the Ole Miss game in week 3. But, if 25 and under, I will take my Longhorns. As Corley pointed out in an earlier thread, Wyoming has had major problems stopping the run. I doubt Wyoming will score more than 7. I think Texas will score a TD on its first 4 possessions. But, Mack Brown is a nice guy. Christenesen is a good coach and his players will play for him to the bitter end. Those two factors scare me for a potential back door cover. In my opinion, as bad as Texas as underachieved for the last 2 years, there should be no mercy on any one...we won't be back (to Texas standards) unless we go at least 11-1 in 2012.
I have heard from DUFL that this line has already gone to 14 on 5 Dimes as of 19 June 2012. S Miss returns 6 O and 4 D from a 12-2 team that was 9-5 ATS and won the Hawaii Bowl. The key loss is 4 year starter Austin Davis. If you watched the Hawaii bowl, he was the undisputed leader of the team. He through for almost 3500 yards with 30 TD and 11 interceptions. AM also loses its top 2 WR's Balentine and Bolden. They return their top 4 rushers. I think the loss of Davis and loss of key experience on D will facilitate a rebuilding year. In addition Ellis Johnson takes over form Guy Fedora. Thus, new HC, new systems, loss of key experience = a step back based on the merits.
Nebraska returns T Martinez, Burkhead and 7 of 8 top receivers. Nebraska has 7 O and 7 D returning starters. This is Pelini's 4th year. They do lose Carl Pelini, but from Longhorn perspective, losing this hothead maybe not be detrimental. They promoted from within with Papuchis so it won't be a new system or a drop-off. A lot of pundits believe Nebraska has underachieved on D the last few years. They come into this game with a chip on their shoulders, but also aspire to win the Legends Division of the Big 10. Nebraska comes in with a one of the top OLines and DLines in the Big 10. They also have a highly rated secondary. I have heard that T Martinez worked with some California based QB guru, but the jury is still out. If TM could threaten with the pass along with Bulkhead’s grinding it out and TM's potential to take it to the house on keepers, this could be a respectable Nebraska O. In addition, Nebraska is coming off a humiliating loss to Lattimoreless South Carolina in the Capital One Bowl.
Summary
Note - the spring game was cancelled due to weather, so there are some unknowns out there. We don't get to see it and neither does the books cappers.
He game will start at 2:30 CST in Lincoln. I think this is an opening volley for Pellini. They travel to UCLA the next week, so that may be on their minds, but I don't think it will be a distraction. Nebraska seems to have the motivation, Without Davis, with new schemes, at Lincoln, with a loss of 7 starters on D, I think S Miss is going to have its hands full. Pellini, love or hate him is a respectable 38-16 over 4 years at Nebraska. I think Nebraska will make a statement in this game and wear down a talented, but inexperienced S Miss squad
My prediction.
Nebraska 31
S Miss 10
As of 20 June 2012, this is my #1 pick for Week 1...
Please post your perspectives on this matchup...thank you in advance...
LonghornHoosier
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Nebraska -13 over S Miss. 20 June 2012
I have heard from DUFL that this line has already gone to 14 on 5 Dimes as of 19 June 2012. S Miss returns 6 O and 4 D from a 12-2 team that was 9-5 ATS and won the Hawaii Bowl. The key loss is 4 year starter Austin Davis. If you watched the Hawaii bowl, he was the undisputed leader of the team. He through for almost 3500 yards with 30 TD and 11 interceptions. AM also loses its top 2 WR's Balentine and Bolden. They return their top 4 rushers. I think the loss of Davis and loss of key experience on D will facilitate a rebuilding year. In addition Ellis Johnson takes over form Guy Fedora. Thus, new HC, new systems, loss of key experience = a step back based on the merits.
Nebraska returns T Martinez, Burkhead and 7 of 8 top receivers. Nebraska has 7 O and 7 D returning starters. This is Pelini's 4th year. They do lose Carl Pelini, but from Longhorn perspective, losing this hothead maybe not be detrimental. They promoted from within with Papuchis so it won't be a new system or a drop-off. A lot of pundits believe Nebraska has underachieved on D the last few years. They come into this game with a chip on their shoulders, but also aspire to win the Legends Division of the Big 10. Nebraska comes in with a one of the top OLines and DLines in the Big 10. They also have a highly rated secondary. I have heard that T Martinez worked with some California based QB guru, but the jury is still out. If TM could threaten with the pass along with Bulkhead’s grinding it out and TM's potential to take it to the house on keepers, this could be a respectable Nebraska O. In addition, Nebraska is coming off a humiliating loss to Lattimoreless South Carolina in the Capital One Bowl.
Summary
Note - the spring game was cancelled due to weather, so there are some unknowns out there. We don't get to see it and neither does the books cappers.
He game will start at 2:30 CST in Lincoln. I think this is an opening volley for Pellini. They travel to UCLA the next week, so that may be on their minds, but I don't think it will be a distraction. Nebraska seems to have the motivation, Without Davis, with new schemes, at Lincoln, with a loss of 7 starters on D, I think S Miss is going to have its hands full. Pellini, love or hate him is a respectable 38-16 over 4 years at Nebraska. I think Nebraska will make a statement in this game and wear down a talented, but inexperienced S Miss squad
My prediction.
Nebraska 31
S Miss 10
As of 20 June 2012, this is my #1 pick for Week 1...
Please post your perspectives on this matchup...thank you in advance...
How do we feel about the s.car/vandy game? any thoughts>
on paper, it would seem like a fairly easy SC cover -9 at Vandy...but if I recall Vandy has played SC tough...the game is Thursday night at Vendy on national team, with Franklin and his posse of assistants who have "hot" wives, I think SC will win, but it may be relatively close...this is a no play for me, though i did give it consideration. good luck...
LonghornHoosier
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Quote Originally Posted by QBoption:
How do we feel about the s.car/vandy game? any thoughts>
on paper, it would seem like a fairly easy SC cover -9 at Vandy...but if I recall Vandy has played SC tough...the game is Thursday night at Vendy on national team, with Franklin and his posse of assistants who have "hot" wives, I think SC will win, but it may be relatively close...this is a no play for me, though i did give it consideration. good luck...
Wait and see what the line does... I'm actually leaning Vandy here right now... Vandy brings back their QB and all the skill positions on offense... love the intensity of their coach, and they should have an electric crowd there...
Think S. Car wins the game... but Vandy covers...
S. Carolina 24 Vandy 16
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Wait and see what the line does... I'm actually leaning Vandy here right now... Vandy brings back their QB and all the skill positions on offense... love the intensity of their coach, and they should have an electric crowd there...
I also lean Vandy with a tight cover, however, there is potentially "easier" games, persay, week 1 then having to sweat out a game thats very likely to be within the 7-10 point margin, with 10 not being a cover. 2 plays I am a fan of as of now would be Clemson(seem to always win me serious $$ first 5-8 weeks), and Michigan St(Blah blah blah, no more Kellen moore, will need them to prove before I back them)....
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I also lean Vandy with a tight cover, however, there is potentially "easier" games, persay, week 1 then having to sweat out a game thats very likely to be within the 7-10 point margin, with 10 not being a cover. 2 plays I am a fan of as of now would be Clemson(seem to always win me serious $$ first 5-8 weeks), and Michigan St(Blah blah blah, no more Kellen moore, will need them to prove before I back them)....
I also lean Vandy with a tight cover, however, there is potentially "easier" games, persay, week 1 then having to sweat out a game thats very likely to be within the 7-10 point margin, with 10 not being a cover. 2 plays I am a fan of as of now would be Clemson(seem to always win me serious $$ first 5-8 weeks), and Michigan St(Blah blah blah, no more Kellen moore, will need them to prove before I back them)....
very funny,
clemson and mich st are ur easy covers for wk1?
If u haven't noticed me and longhorn got about 10 games each that were looking at.
not tryn to clown u but, there are way easier faves to side with than MICH ST and CLEM.
matter fact S.car owns vandy and has a better chance at covering than both of ur plays.
AUB/CLEM : dont be fooled by LY, AUB wins 28-20.
MICH ST/BOISE ST : dont be fooled broncos will be fired up! state wins 17-13.
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Quote Originally Posted by Hornyfrog2013:
I also lean Vandy with a tight cover, however, there is potentially "easier" games, persay, week 1 then having to sweat out a game thats very likely to be within the 7-10 point margin, with 10 not being a cover. 2 plays I am a fan of as of now would be Clemson(seem to always win me serious $$ first 5-8 weeks), and Michigan St(Blah blah blah, no more Kellen moore, will need them to prove before I back them)....
very funny,
clemson and mich st are ur easy covers for wk1?
If u haven't noticed me and longhorn got about 10 games each that were looking at.
not tryn to clown u but, there are way easier faves to side with than MICH ST and CLEM.
matter fact S.car owns vandy and has a better chance at covering than both of ur plays.
AUB/CLEM : dont be fooled by LY, AUB wins 28-20.
MICH ST/BOISE ST : dont be fooled broncos will be fired up! state wins 17-13.
I have heard from DUFL that this line has already gone to 14 on 5 Dimes as of 19 June 2012. S Miss returns 6 O and 4 D from a 12-2 team that was 9-5 ATS and won the Hawaii Bowl. The key loss is 4 year starter Austin Davis. If you watched the Hawaii bowl, he was the undisputed leader of the team. He through for almost 3500 yards with 30 TD and 11 interceptions. AM also loses its top 2 WR's Balentine and Bolden. They return their top 4 rushers. I think the loss of Davis and loss of key experience on D will facilitate a rebuilding year. In addition Ellis Johnson takes over form Guy Fedora. Thus, new HC, new systems, loss of key experience = a step back based on the merits.
Nebraska returns T Martinez, Burkhead and 7 of 8 top receivers. Nebraska has 7 O and 7 D returning starters. This is Pelini's 4th year. They do lose Carl Pelini, but from Longhorn perspective, losing this hothead maybe not be detrimental. They promoted from within with Papuchis so it won't be a new system or a drop-off. A lot of pundits believe Nebraska has underachieved on D the last few years. They come into this game with a chip on their shoulders, but also aspire to win the Legends Division of the Big 10. Nebraska comes in with a one of the top OLines and DLines in the Big 10. They also have a highly rated secondary. I have heard that T Martinez worked with some California based QB guru, but the jury is still out. If TM could threaten with the pass along with Bulkhead’s grinding it out and TM's potential to take it to the house on keepers, this could be a respectable Nebraska O. In addition, Nebraska is coming off a humiliating loss to Lattimoreless South Carolina in the Capital One Bowl.
Summary
Note - the spring game was cancelled due to weather, so there are some unknowns out there. We don't get to see it and neither does the books cappers.
He game will start at 2:30 CST in Lincoln. I think this is an opening volley for Pellini. They travel to UCLA the next week, so that may be on their minds, but I don't think it will be a distraction. Nebraska seems to have the motivation, Without Davis, with new schemes, at Lincoln, with a loss of 7 starters on D, I think S Miss is going to have its hands full. Pellini, love or hate him is a respectable 38-16 over 4 years at Nebraska. I think Nebraska will make a statement in this game and wear down a talented, but inexperienced S Miss squad
My prediction.
Nebraska 31
S Miss 10
As of 20 June 2012, this is my #1 pick for Week 1...
Please post your perspectives on this matchup...thank you in advance...
those are my thoughts exactly...
just looking at this -13 @ NEB, usually a non-AQ gets way more points when visiting, they must be getting love for going to a bowl LY. NEB usually beats non-AQ by 20 or more. SO.miss breaking in a new starter at QB in LINCOLN?!?! this could get ugly. i also noticed that so.miss has been a DD dogg on the road vs BCS teams and failed to cover.
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Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:
Nebraska -13 over S Miss. 20 June 2012
I have heard from DUFL that this line has already gone to 14 on 5 Dimes as of 19 June 2012. S Miss returns 6 O and 4 D from a 12-2 team that was 9-5 ATS and won the Hawaii Bowl. The key loss is 4 year starter Austin Davis. If you watched the Hawaii bowl, he was the undisputed leader of the team. He through for almost 3500 yards with 30 TD and 11 interceptions. AM also loses its top 2 WR's Balentine and Bolden. They return their top 4 rushers. I think the loss of Davis and loss of key experience on D will facilitate a rebuilding year. In addition Ellis Johnson takes over form Guy Fedora. Thus, new HC, new systems, loss of key experience = a step back based on the merits.
Nebraska returns T Martinez, Burkhead and 7 of 8 top receivers. Nebraska has 7 O and 7 D returning starters. This is Pelini's 4th year. They do lose Carl Pelini, but from Longhorn perspective, losing this hothead maybe not be detrimental. They promoted from within with Papuchis so it won't be a new system or a drop-off. A lot of pundits believe Nebraska has underachieved on D the last few years. They come into this game with a chip on their shoulders, but also aspire to win the Legends Division of the Big 10. Nebraska comes in with a one of the top OLines and DLines in the Big 10. They also have a highly rated secondary. I have heard that T Martinez worked with some California based QB guru, but the jury is still out. If TM could threaten with the pass along with Bulkhead’s grinding it out and TM's potential to take it to the house on keepers, this could be a respectable Nebraska O. In addition, Nebraska is coming off a humiliating loss to Lattimoreless South Carolina in the Capital One Bowl.
Summary
Note - the spring game was cancelled due to weather, so there are some unknowns out there. We don't get to see it and neither does the books cappers.
He game will start at 2:30 CST in Lincoln. I think this is an opening volley for Pellini. They travel to UCLA the next week, so that may be on their minds, but I don't think it will be a distraction. Nebraska seems to have the motivation, Without Davis, with new schemes, at Lincoln, with a loss of 7 starters on D, I think S Miss is going to have its hands full. Pellini, love or hate him is a respectable 38-16 over 4 years at Nebraska. I think Nebraska will make a statement in this game and wear down a talented, but inexperienced S Miss squad
My prediction.
Nebraska 31
S Miss 10
As of 20 June 2012, this is my #1 pick for Week 1...
Please post your perspectives on this matchup...thank you in advance...
those are my thoughts exactly...
just looking at this -13 @ NEB, usually a non-AQ gets way more points when visiting, they must be getting love for going to a bowl LY. NEB usually beats non-AQ by 20 or more. SO.miss breaking in a new starter at QB in LINCOLN?!?! this could get ugly. i also noticed that so.miss has been a DD dogg on the road vs BCS teams and failed to cover.
If u haven't noticed me and longhorn got about 10 games each that were looking at.
not tryn to clown u but, there are way easier faves to side with than MICH ST and CLEM.
matter fact S.car owns vandy and has a better chance at covering than both of ur plays.
AUB/CLEM : dont be fooled by LY, AUB wins 28-20.
MICH ST/BOISE ST : dont be fooled broncos will be fired up! state wins 17-13.
Notice no where did I say they were my easy covers, I said I was a fan and that there could potentially be easier games to pick than an SEC matchup. But I guess now that we know for sure that Auburn is going to win, the score of the Boise game, and the fact that vandy has a WAY better shot at covering than either of the above, we should all win a ton of money on those.....
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Quote Originally Posted by QBoption:
very funny,
clemson and mich st are ur easy covers for wk1?
If u haven't noticed me and longhorn got about 10 games each that were looking at.
not tryn to clown u but, there are way easier faves to side with than MICH ST and CLEM.
matter fact S.car owns vandy and has a better chance at covering than both of ur plays.
AUB/CLEM : dont be fooled by LY, AUB wins 28-20.
MICH ST/BOISE ST : dont be fooled broncos will be fired up! state wins 17-13.
Notice no where did I say they were my easy covers, I said I was a fan and that there could potentially be easier games to pick than an SEC matchup. But I guess now that we know for sure that Auburn is going to win, the score of the Boise game, and the fact that vandy has a WAY better shot at covering than either of the above, we should all win a ton of money on those.....
Notice no where did I say they were my easy covers, I said I was a fan and that there could potentially be easier games to pick than an SEC matchup. But I guess now that we know for sure that Auburn is going to win, the score of the Boise game, and the fact that vandy has a WAY better shot at covering than either of the above, we should all win a ton of money on those.....
u dont get it, and yes u did imply those were easier games, and ur ego is getting in the way of our money...this conv. is over, next topic please...
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Quote Originally Posted by Hornyfrog2013:
Notice no where did I say they were my easy covers, I said I was a fan and that there could potentially be easier games to pick than an SEC matchup. But I guess now that we know for sure that Auburn is going to win, the score of the Boise game, and the fact that vandy has a WAY better shot at covering than either of the above, we should all win a ton of money on those.....
u dont get it, and yes u did imply those were easier games, and ur ego is getting in the way of our money...this conv. is over, next topic please...
If the S.Car/Vandy line goes to 10, which I think it probably will, I will be all over Vandy... Vandy is a good team with enough coming back to stay within that number... Plus DD SEC dogs cover the majority of the time...
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If the S.Car/Vandy line goes to 10, which I think it probably will, I will be all over Vandy... Vandy is a good team with enough coming back to stay within that number... Plus DD SEC dogs cover the majority of the time...
If the S.Car/Vandy line goes to 10, which I think it probably will, I will be all over Vandy... Vandy is a good team with enough coming back to stay within that number... Plus DD SEC dogs cover the majority of the time...
i agree, even tho my first thought was take S.CAR...vandy sounds nice...
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Quote Originally Posted by Corley1011:
If the S.Car/Vandy line goes to 10, which I think it probably will, I will be all over Vandy... Vandy is a good team with enough coming back to stay within that number... Plus DD SEC dogs cover the majority of the time...
i agree, even tho my first thought was take S.CAR...vandy sounds nice...
The Bulldogs are rebuilding their offensive line after losing center Ben Jones and tackles Cordy Glenn and Justin Anderson from a 10-4 team. "Their progress from week one to now has been unbelievable," Murray said. "They're giving me plenty of time to throw the ball. Running lanes are opening up for the running backs, so you've got to give credit to those guys. They're taken on the challenge of going against maybe two of three first-round picks in next year's draft."Linebacker Jarvis Jones, who last year led the SEC and ranked fifth nationally with 13 1-2 sacks last season, believes Georgia will weather the early-game losses in the secondary.
BUFFaLO It's understandable that there are going to be some growing pains with two new defensive coaches, including a new coordinator.The defense is still clearly adjusting to Coach Tepper and Coach Linguist.The Defensive Backs were pretty unimpressive.
I love the direction Alex Wood is taking the offense. You just can't have a high powered passing offense with the quarterbacks on the roster.
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its the 21st, lets talk GEO/BUFF
here's the notes i gathered:
GEORGIA
The Bulldogs are rebuilding their offensive line after losing center Ben Jones and tackles Cordy Glenn and Justin Anderson from a 10-4 team. "Their progress from week one to now has been unbelievable," Murray said. "They're giving me plenty of time to throw the ball. Running lanes are opening up for the running backs, so you've got to give credit to those guys. They're taken on the challenge of going against maybe two of three first-round picks in next year's draft."Linebacker Jarvis Jones, who last year led the SEC and ranked fifth nationally with 13 1-2 sacks last season, believes Georgia will weather the early-game losses in the secondary.
BUFFaLO It's understandable that there are going to be some growing pains with two new defensive coaches, including a new coordinator.The defense is still clearly adjusting to Coach Tepper and Coach Linguist.The Defensive Backs were pretty unimpressive.
I love the direction Alex Wood is taking the offense. You just can't have a high powered passing offense with the quarterbacks on the roster.
The Bulldogs are rebuilding their offensive line after losing center Ben Jones and tackles Cordy Glenn and Justin Anderson from a 10-4 team. "Their progress from week one to now has been unbelievable," Murray said. "They're giving me plenty of time to throw the ball. Running lanes are opening up for the running backs, so you've got to give credit to those guys. They're taken on the challenge of going against maybe two of three first-round picks in next year's draft."Linebacker Jarvis Jones, who last year led the SEC and ranked fifth nationally with 13 1-2 sacks last season, believes Georgia will weather the early-game losses in the secondary.
BUFFaLO It's understandable that there are going to be some growing pains with two new defensive coaches, including a new coordinator.The defense is still clearly adjusting to Coach Tepper and Coach Linguist.The Defensive Backs were pretty unimpressive.
I love the direction Alex Wood is taking the offense. You just can't have a high powered passing offense with the quarterbacks on the roster.
you beat me to it QB! but, good job getting it started...I will post sometime today...thank you!
LonghornHoosier
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Quote Originally Posted by QBoption:
its the 21st, lets talk GEO/BUFF
here's the notes i gathered:
GEORGIA
The Bulldogs are rebuilding their offensive line after losing center Ben Jones and tackles Cordy Glenn and Justin Anderson from a 10-4 team. "Their progress from week one to now has been unbelievable," Murray said. "They're giving me plenty of time to throw the ball. Running lanes are opening up for the running backs, so you've got to give credit to those guys. They're taken on the challenge of going against maybe two of three first-round picks in next year's draft."Linebacker Jarvis Jones, who last year led the SEC and ranked fifth nationally with 13 1-2 sacks last season, believes Georgia will weather the early-game losses in the secondary.
BUFFaLO It's understandable that there are going to be some growing pains with two new defensive coaches, including a new coordinator.The defense is still clearly adjusting to Coach Tepper and Coach Linguist.The Defensive Backs were pretty unimpressive.
I love the direction Alex Wood is taking the offense. You just can't have a high powered passing offense with the quarterbacks on the roster.
you beat me to it QB! but, good job getting it started...I will post sometime today...thank you!
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