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    ****Kansas @ TCU***** GAME OF THE WEEK

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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 12:45 AM ET #1

    ****Kansas @ TCU***** GAME OF THE WEEK

    Been hot with my college game of the weeks, winning again last week with Navy +10 over Memphis. Navy clearly was the better team going in, but the media over hyped Memphis so much, that they forgot that Navy was as good or better. 

    But thats old news...what can I do for you today....

    This is technical & situational 'cap for me....which to me are really my strongest plays historically. 

    The catch in this game is the situation TCU has this Saturday, and then what they have coming-up, and then the things they need to do this game to get by.

    Lets look at the situational angle first:

    TCU is clearly on the outside looking in ,as far as the National Championship argument, but to have any chance at getting there, they would need to run the table...meaning they would need to beat Kansas, then @Oaklahoma and finally beat Baylor at home. 

    Obviously, the push for a Championship argument would be due to their possible wins vs Oklahoma & Baylor, Kansas is pretty much just an assumed win (but needs to be viewed in a different way then previous TCU contests earlier in the year....)

    If you catch where I am going here....I am saying that although you are probably reading about TCU being "mad" about last weeks sub par performance...and will take it out on poor old Kansas....I am telling you that's not who college football business works. Especially when a possible, though an outside chance of a title, is in play. 

    That being said, what you read about TCU being mad and toss it out the window,...you have to look at the bigger picture.

    It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the most logical road for TCU is to win Kansas with risking and showing as little as possible, for (Oklahoma & Baylor to scout.) 

    With TCU star WR Doctson on the injury report, play or not, it would be insane to get him hurt in the Kansas game when they really need him for the last two games....The same can be said for all TCU starters. TCU running up the score on Kansas can not help them in the poles, so I just can't see TCU rolling up points and risking injury just to pummel Kansas, because they are mad. The goal is doing the  tare minimum to beat Kansas and to keep as much in reserve as possible for the last two games.

    So the handicap is that TCU will be able to do whatever they want verse Kansas, so after taking a lead of a few scores...TCU will go to a ball control run the clock as much as possible style offense. The type where they can burn 8 or 9 minutes of the third or fourth quarters by staying inbounds and bleeding clock. They will not run up the score, this would run contrary to the ultimate goal. 

    If TCU gets up 24 or 28, there is no motivation to run it up, it really would be best for them to get some reserves reps and get out as healthy as possible. 

    Kansas on the other hand has nothing to lose, and catching 6 TDs + another 3.5, leaves TCU plenty of room to win big and not cover. If Kansas can score they are gonna cover.

    Take the Kansas Jayhawks this week, as we fade a heavy favorite with a double look ahead.

    KU +45.5  

    Good Luck!!!!!!!!
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    ****Kansas @ TCU***** GAME OF THE WEEK

    Been hot with my college game of the weeks, winning again last week with Navy +10 over Memphis. Navy clearly was the better team going in, but the media over hyped Memphis so much, that they forgot that Navy was as good or better. 

    But thats old news...what can I do for you today....

    This is technical & situational 'cap for me....which to me are really my strongest plays historically. 

    The catch in this game is the situation TCU has this Saturday, and then what they have coming-up, and then the things they need to do this game to get by.

    Lets look at the situational angle first:

    TCU is clearly on the outside looking in ,as far as the National Championship argument, but to have any chance at getting there, they would need to run the table...meaning they would need to beat Kansas, then @Oaklahoma and finally beat Baylor at home. 

    Obviously, the push for a Championship argument would be due to their possible wins vs Oklahoma & Baylor, Kansas is pretty much just an assumed win (but needs to be viewed in a different way then previous TCU contests earlier in the year....)

    If you catch where I am going here....I am saying that although you are probably reading about TCU being "mad" about last weeks sub par performance...and will take it out on poor old Kansas....I am telling you that's not who college football business works. Especially when a possible, though an outside chance of a title, is in play. 

    That being said, what you read about TCU being mad and toss it out the window,...you have to look at the bigger picture.

    It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the most logical road for TCU is to win Kansas with risking and showing as little as possible, for (Oklahoma & Baylor to scout.) 

    With TCU star WR Doctson on the injury report, play or not, it would be insane to get him hurt in the Kansas game when they really need him for the last two games....The same can be said for all TCU starters. TCU running up the score on Kansas can not help them in the poles, so I just can't see TCU rolling up points and risking injury just to pummel Kansas, because they are mad. The goal is doing the  tare minimum to beat Kansas and to keep as much in reserve as possible for the last two games.

    So the handicap is that TCU will be able to do whatever they want verse Kansas, so after taking a lead of a few scores...TCU will go to a ball control run the clock as much as possible style offense. The type where they can burn 8 or 9 minutes of the third or fourth quarters by staying inbounds and bleeding clock. They will not run up the score, this would run contrary to the ultimate goal. 

    If TCU gets up 24 or 28, there is no motivation to run it up, it really would be best for them to get some reserves reps and get out as healthy as possible. 

    Kansas on the other hand has nothing to lose, and catching 6 TDs + another 3.5, leaves TCU plenty of room to win big and not cover. If Kansas can score they are gonna cover.

    Take the Kansas Jayhawks this week, as we fade a heavy favorite with a double look ahead.

    KU +45.5  

    Good Luck!!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 12:54 AM ET #2

    Grab a 45.5 if you can, it's a much tougher number to cover then a 44.5 or 45....trust me. A monster difference!!!!
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    Grab a 45.5 if you can, it's a much tougher number to cover then a 44.5 or 45....trust me. A monster difference!!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 2:00 AM ET #3

    The Longhorns scored 59 on Kansas. TCU cheerleaders could beat Kansas by 30. I understand what you are saying but I think the line already has that information taken into consideration. Kansas is probably the worst team in college football
    TCU backups 59
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    The Longhorns scored 59 on Kansas. TCU cheerleaders could beat Kansas by 30. I understand what you are saying but I think the line already has that information taken into consideration. Kansas is probably the worst team in college football
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 2:56 AM ET #4

    Agreed and gl
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 3:32 AM ET #5

    I really like the way you presented all that, and it does make total sense. Will take all that into consideration moving towards the weekend while keeping this game in mind. Thanks & GL.
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    I really like the way you presented all that, and it does make total sense. Will take all that into consideration moving towards the weekend while keeping this game in mind. Thanks & GL.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 4:52 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by foosball44:

    The Longhorns scored 59 on Kansas. TCU cheerleaders could beat Kansas by 30. I understand what you are saying but I think the line already has that information taken into consideration. Kansas is probably the worst team in college football
    TCU backups 59
    Kansas 10


    No...if anything, according to my numbers, the oddsmakers have padded this game by almost 5.5 points. Probably to blowup teasers.

    Appreciate your insight, thats why were hear is to gather as much info as we can. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by foosball44:

    The Longhorns scored 59 on Kansas. TCU cheerleaders could beat Kansas by 30. I understand what you are saying but I think the line already has that information taken into consideration. Kansas is probably the worst team in college football
    TCU backups 59
    Kansas 10


    No...if anything, according to my numbers, the oddsmakers have padded this game by almost 5.5 points. Probably to blowup teasers.

    Appreciate your insight, thats why were hear is to gather as much info as we can. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2015 - 1:10 AM ET #7

    How many CFB games of the week do I have to win to get som luv around here?

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    How many CFB games of the week do I have to win to get som luv around here?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2015 - 1:20 AM ET #8

    im opposite of u.... but gl nonetheless bro.. u been killin it
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    stay away game for me but wish you BOL sir. Can see Kansas quitting after they fall behind by 30 at halftime and TCU running up the score for poll reasons but you do present a lot of valid points. Just the type of game I usually shy away from because you cant gain good enough complexions on a spread this high.
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    stay away game for me but wish you BOL sir. Can see Kansas quitting after they fall behind by 30 at halftime and TCU running up the score for poll reasons but you do present a lot of valid points. Just the type of game I usually shy away from because you cant gain good enough complexions on a spread this high.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVandal:

    stay away game for me but wish you BOL sir. Can see Kansas quitting after they fall behind by 30 at halftime and TCU running up the score for poll reasons but you do present a lot of valid points. Just the type of game I usually shy away from because you cant gain good enough complexions on a spread this high.

    A margin win by TCU over KU will not help their ranking... It's a mathematical certainty, that is a major reason I am on the Jayhawks.
    The only thing that can happen to TCU in this game.... is that someone could get hurt for the last two game that matter...Once they grab a big lead (28+)...it's bleed the clock time and get out of Dodge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVandal:

    stay away game for me but wish you BOL sir. Can see Kansas quitting after they fall behind by 30 at halftime and TCU running up the score for poll reasons but you do present a lot of valid points. Just the type of game I usually shy away from because you cant gain good enough complexions on a spread this high.

    A margin win by TCU over KU will not help their ranking... It's a mathematical certainty, that is a major reason I am on the Jayhawks.
    The only thing that can happen to TCU in this game.... is that someone could get hurt for the last two game that matter...Once they grab a big lead (28+)...it's bleed the clock time and get out of Dodge.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2015 - 1:48 AM ET #11

    TCU practices this week, almost all their skill players were in no-contact jerseys. That shows their conservative approach to this game.

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    I just posted this game. Same tone alot of the same points too. i end with just a lean on TCU but like them because KU was the reason they were booted from the playoffs last year...er at least the committee spokesman and everyone made it sound that way. I can't do Kansas sorry, watching them is like watching the stock market when it's tanking huge dump and don't see why the public money would ever go on them and that line is inflated maybe too much if that's possible haha.I do think as long as the starters are i they're going to run it up just a matter of when the 2nd team goes out. anyone get look at them this year?...prob not because they've been in alot of close ones but would like to hear if someone has the 411 on that. ND burned me bad earlier this year when i made that kindof play on Umass. worked great, close at the half but pulled away and starters came in late 3rd with plenty of room...they scored another 30 or so.

    Anyway, I'll pull for Kansas because i like the write up and want to hear you gloat the KU win when it seems everyone's doing the TCU dance.this week. haha GL! 

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    I just posted this game. Same tone alot of the same points too. i end with just a lean on TCU but like them because KU was the reason they were booted from the playoffs last year...er at least the committee spokesman and everyone made it sound that way. I can't do Kansas sorry, watching them is like watching the stock market when it's tanking huge dump and don't see why the public money would ever go on them and that line is inflated maybe too much if that's possible haha.I do think as long as the starters are i they're going to run it up just a matter of when the 2nd team goes out. anyone get look at them this year?...prob not because they've been in alot of close ones but would like to hear if someone has the 411 on that. ND burned me bad earlier this year when i made that kindof play on Umass. worked great, close at the half but pulled away and starters came in late 3rd with plenty of room...they scored another 30 or so.

    Anyway, I'll pull for Kansas because i like the write up and want to hear you gloat the KU win when it seems everyone's doing the TCU dance.this week. haha GL! 

     
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    Here's one problem...TCU played these clowns last year and almost lost.

    It's not a bad bet, but TCU coming off a loss and the fact they barely beat them last year (34-30) would scare me off. 

    The only way I see it is if they go up 45-0 and then coast in the 4th quarter. The score could just as easily be 62-0 at that point.
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    Here's one problem...TCU played these clowns last year and almost lost.

    It's not a bad bet, but TCU coming off a loss and the fact they barely beat them last year (34-30) would scare me off. 

    The only way I see it is if they go up 45-0 and then coast in the 4th quarter. The score could just as easily be 62-0 at that point.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by m15525:

    ****Kansas @ TCU***** GAME OF THE WEEK

    Been hot with my college game of the weeks, winning again last week with Navy +10 over Memphis. Navy clearly was the better team going in, but the media over hyped Memphis so much, that they forgot that Navy was as good or better. 

    But thats old news...what can I do for you today....

    This is technical & situational 'cap for me....which to me are really my strongest plays historically. 

    The catch in this game is the situation TCU has this Saturday, and then what they have coming-up, and then the things they need to do this game to get by.

    Lets look at the situational angle first:

    TCU is clearly on the outside looking in ,as far as the National Championship argument, but to have any chance at getting there, they would need to run the table...meaning they would need to beat Kansas, then @Oaklahoma and finally beat Baylor at home. 

    Obviously, the push for a Championship argument would be due to their possible wins vs Oklahoma & Baylor, Kansas is pretty much just an assumed win (but needs to be viewed in a different way then previous TCU contests earlier in the year....)

    If you catch where I am going here....I am saying that although you are probably reading about TCU being "mad" about last weeks sub par performance...and will take it out on poor old Kansas....I am telling you that's not who college football business works. Especially when a possible, though an outside chance of a title, is in play. 

    That being said, what you read about TCU being mad and toss it out the window,...you have to look at the bigger picture.

    It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the most logical road for TCU is to win Kansas with risking and showing as little as possible, for (Oklahoma & Baylor to scout.) 

    With TCU star WR Doctson on the injury report, play or not, it would be insane to get him hurt in the Kansas game when they really need him for the last two games....The same can be said for all TCU starters. TCU running up the score on Kansas can not help them in the poles, so I just can't see TCU rolling up points and risking injury just to pummel Kansas, because they are mad. The goal is doing the  tare minimum to beat Kansas and to keep as much in reserve as possible for the last two games.

    So the handicap is that TCU will be able to do whatever they want verse Kansas, so after taking a lead of a few scores...TCU will go to a ball control run the clock as much as possible style offense. The type where they can burn 8 or 9 minutes of the third or fourth quarters by staying inbounds and bleeding clock. They will not run up the score, this would run contrary to the ultimate goal. 

    If TCU gets up 24 or 28, there is no motivation to run it up, it really would be best for them to get some reserves reps and get out as healthy as possible. 

    Kansas on the other hand has nothing to lose, and catching 6 TDs + another 3.5, leaves TCU plenty of room to win big and not cover. If Kansas can score they are gonna cover.

    Take the Kansas Jayhawks this week, as we fade a heavy favorite with a double look ahead.

    KU +45.5  

    Good Luck!!!!!!!!

    Well done!!!

     

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    ****Kansas @ TCU***** GAME OF THE WEEK

    Been hot with my college game of the weeks, winning again last week with Navy +10 over Memphis. Navy clearly was the better team going in, but the media over hyped Memphis so much, that they forgot that Navy was as good or better. 

    But thats old news...what can I do for you today....

    This is technical & situational 'cap for me....which to me are really my strongest plays historically. 

    The catch in this game is the situation TCU has this Saturday, and then what they have coming-up, and then the things they need to do this game to get by.

    Lets look at the situational angle first:

    TCU is clearly on the outside looking in ,as far as the National Championship argument, but to have any chance at getting there, they would need to run the table...meaning they would need to beat Kansas, then @Oaklahoma and finally beat Baylor at home. 

    Obviously, the push for a Championship argument would be due to their possible wins vs Oklahoma & Baylor, Kansas is pretty much just an assumed win (but needs to be viewed in a different way then previous TCU contests earlier in the year....)

    If you catch where I am going here....I am saying that although you are probably reading about TCU being "mad" about last weeks sub par performance...and will take it out on poor old Kansas....I am telling you that's not who college football business works. Especially when a possible, though an outside chance of a title, is in play. 

    That being said, what you read about TCU being mad and toss it out the window,...you have to look at the bigger picture.

    It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the most logical road for TCU is to win Kansas with risking and showing as little as possible, for (Oklahoma & Baylor to scout.) 

    With TCU star WR Doctson on the injury report, play or not, it would be insane to get him hurt in the Kansas game when they really need him for the last two games....The same can be said for all TCU starters. TCU running up the score on Kansas can not help them in the poles, so I just can't see TCU rolling up points and risking injury just to pummel Kansas, because they are mad. The goal is doing the  tare minimum to beat Kansas and to keep as much in reserve as possible for the last two games.

    So the handicap is that TCU will be able to do whatever they want verse Kansas, so after taking a lead of a few scores...TCU will go to a ball control run the clock as much as possible style offense. The type where they can burn 8 or 9 minutes of the third or fourth quarters by staying inbounds and bleeding clock. They will not run up the score, this would run contrary to the ultimate goal. 

    If TCU gets up 24 or 28, there is no motivation to run it up, it really would be best for them to get some reserves reps and get out as healthy as possible. 

    Kansas on the other hand has nothing to lose, and catching 6 TDs + another 3.5, leaves TCU plenty of room to win big and not cover. If Kansas can score they are gonna cover.

    Take the Kansas Jayhawks this week, as we fade a heavy favorite with a double look ahead.

    KU +45.5  

    Good Luck!!!!!!!!

    Well done!!!

     

     
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    Based on everything you said, wouldn't under 71.5 be a better bet?  Seems like if the game goes the way you think, it would be way under that anyway, and that would give you a cushion in case TCU breaks some long TDs while trying to bleed the clock in the 3rd & 4th.    
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    Based on everything you said, wouldn't under 71.5 be a better bet?  Seems like if the game goes the way you think, it would be way under that anyway, and that would give you a cushion in case TCU breaks some long TDs while trying to bleed the clock in the 3rd & 4th.    
     
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    Tcu has not covered vs Kansas in awhile.
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    BOL

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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2015 - 9:39 AM ET #18

    Wow you wrote 2 pages and didn't manage to say anything. Did KU losing their QB come up in your analysis? No. Did a team being mad come up in your analysis? About 5 times. Win or lose today, your logic is f'd and whatever you think you know about sports betting isn't what it seems
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    Wow you wrote 2 pages and didn't manage to say anything. Did KU losing their QB come up in your analysis? No. Did a team being mad come up in your analysis? About 5 times. Win or lose today, your logic is f'd and whatever you think you know about sports betting isn't what it seems
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2015 - 9:41 AM ET #19

    Appreciate your insight on which teams are really mad though
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2015 - 9:55 AM ET #20

    Had to come back to ream on you more. you look into this game at all before you started sputtering nonsense? My bet is no. You would think a change at QB would at least warrant consideration. If 1 young bettor reads this and realizes your full o shet I feel like I've done my job
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    Had to come back to ream on you more. you look into this game at all before you started sputtering nonsense? My bet is no. You would think a change at QB would at least warrant consideration. If 1 young bettor reads this and realizes your full o shet I feel like I've done my job
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2015 - 10:12 AM ET #21

    Great insight m15525!  I was thinking exactly that...TCU will be mad as hell and take it out on an over matched KU team.  I almost took the bait but upon reading your write up I am going to ride with you.  

    As for the KU QB, it has no effect in my mind  for the strategy you are deploying.  In fact, it makes it easier for TCU to get into "comfort mode" and turn off the jets.

    Thanks for your contribution.
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    Great insight m15525!  I was thinking exactly that...TCU will be mad as hell and take it out on an over matched KU team.  I almost took the bait but upon reading your write up I am going to ride with you.  

    As for the KU QB, it has no effect in my mind  for the strategy you are deploying.  In fact, it makes it easier for TCU to get into "comfort mode" and turn off the jets.

    Thanks for your contribution.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2015 - 10:36 AM ET #22

    Solid as usual.  trap game.
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    I like the writeup! I just hate betting on a crappy team when they could be down 40-0 at half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smushmachine:

    Based on everything you said, wouldn't under 71.5 be a better bet?  Seems like if the game goes the way you think, it would be way under that anyway, and that would give you a cushion in case TCU breaks some long TDs while trying to bleed the clock in the 3rd & 4th.    

     Nice. I don't think TCU stops trying to score but maybe limit Doctson and certainly should late or just use him but don't need to toss it to him. Huge loss if theres an injury.  they also have WR J. Story out (minor impact but still). Should note doctson slow game does not always = fewer points...yes against OK state and Minn but low output w S.F.Austin and TCU scored 70 by themselves. Maybe grab that for a pinch. Good luck!
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    Based on everything you said, wouldn't under 71.5 be a better bet?  Seems like if the game goes the way you think, it would be way under that anyway, and that would give you a cushion in case TCU breaks some long TDs while trying to bleed the clock in the 3rd & 4th.    

     Nice. I don't think TCU stops trying to score but maybe limit Doctson and certainly should late or just use him but don't need to toss it to him. Huge loss if theres an injury.  they also have WR J. Story out (minor impact but still). Should note doctson slow game does not always = fewer points...yes against OK state and Minn but low output w S.F.Austin and TCU scored 70 by themselves. Maybe grab that for a pinch. Good luck!
     
     
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    Looking good sensai!
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