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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2009 - 8:07 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by steinyj:

    I believe the Rose Bowl is the National Title game this year, I look for my Hawks to win this weekend (we havent won in EL since 91 ) but lose to OSU in Cbus. And IOWA lost 4 games last year by 12 points not 4

    The Rose Bowl isn't the National Championship game, the BCS Title game has been it's own separate game for 3 years or so.  It just rotates between the four BCS game locations.  This year, the BCS NC game is being played in the Rose Bowl in Pasadena 
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    Quote Originally Posted by steinyj:

    I believe the Rose Bowl is the National Title game this year, I look for my Hawks to win this weekend (we havent won in EL since 91 ) but lose to OSU in Cbus. And IOWA lost 4 games last year by 12 points not 4

    The Rose Bowl isn't the National Championship game, the BCS Title game has been it's own separate game for 3 years or so.  It just rotates between the four BCS game locations.  This year, the BCS NC game is being played in the Rose Bowl in Pasadena 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2009 - 8:31 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:

    Cincy is better than Iowa, not by alot though because Iowa is also a solid team and well coached, I would give the QB edge and the coaching edge to Cincy though, Cincy 24-16 over the Hawkeyes on a neutral field, a good game


    Most reasonable prediction above.

    Cincy or Iowa...could go either way for a night game with the entire country watching.  I give the edge to Cincinnati in a 20-17 win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:

    Cincy is better than Iowa, not by alot though because Iowa is also a solid team and well coached, I would give the QB edge and the coaching edge to Cincy though, Cincy 24-16 over the Hawkeyes on a neutral field, a good game


    Most reasonable prediction above.

    Cincy or Iowa...could go either way for a night game with the entire country watching.  I give the edge to Cincinnati in a 20-17 win.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2009 - 8:49 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by steinyj:

    I believe the Rose Bowl is the National Title game this year, I look for my Hawks to win this weekend (we havent won in EL since 91 ) but lose to OSU in Cbus. And IOWA lost 4 games last year by 12 points not 4



    Not this time. The Rose Bowl is at 2 pm January, 1.

    The BCS CHampionship game is January 7, 2010, at 5:00 p.m.

    https://www.tournamentofroses.com/index.asp

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    Quote Originally Posted by steinyj:

    I believe the Rose Bowl is the National Title game this year, I look for my Hawks to win this weekend (we havent won in EL since 91 ) but lose to OSU in Cbus. And IOWA lost 4 games last year by 12 points not 4



    Not this time. The Rose Bowl is at 2 pm January, 1.

    The BCS CHampionship game is January 7, 2010, at 5:00 p.m.

    https://www.tournamentofroses.com/index.asp

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2009 - 8:59 PM ET #29

    Cincy is juggling their QB's too much. And I'm not sure how anyone can rationalize too many coaches being better than Kirk Ferentz.

    Besides, everyone, sans Southwest Miz St, has scored on Cincy.

    Hawks have the ability to shut down and take away.
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    Cincy is juggling their QB's too much. And I'm not sure how anyone can rationalize too many coaches being better than Kirk Ferentz.

    Besides, everyone, sans Southwest Miz St, has scored on Cincy.

    Hawks have the ability to shut down and take away.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2009 - 9:01 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by jkat15:

    question just posed on college football live who would win this game on a neutral field.  kelly just came out in the media and said pike will play against louisville next week so lets assume that injury is a non-factor....who would win?

    IMO this isnt a question Cincinnati would run past Iowa on a neutral field.....Iowa could not cover Gilyard with a double team or any coverage they just don't face the speed that the Cats have in that conference with its own network.  Neutral field decent weather Bearcats 42 Iowa 21





    WOW you are way off....Iowa would control both sides of the line and while Iowa doesn't blow people out they would physically beat down this Cincy team
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkat15:

    question just posed on college football live who would win this game on a neutral field.  kelly just came out in the media and said pike will play against louisville next week so lets assume that injury is a non-factor....who would win?

    IMO this isnt a question Cincinnati would run past Iowa on a neutral field.....Iowa could not cover Gilyard with a double team or any coverage they just don't face the speed that the Cats have in that conference with its own network.  Neutral field decent weather Bearcats 42 Iowa 21





    WOW you are way off....Iowa would control both sides of the line and while Iowa doesn't blow people out they would physically beat down this Cincy team
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2009 - 9:27 PM ET #31

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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2009 - 10:24 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by norseman67:

    Cincy is juggling their QB's too much. And I'm not sure how anyone can rationalize too many coaches being better than Kirk Ferentz.

    Besides, everyone, sans Southwest Miz St, has scored on Cincy.

    Hawks have the ability to shut down and take away.


    Northern Iowa Arkansas State beaten by a combined 4 points Cincy just won't let that happen.  Sorry Hawkeyes you beat Penn State on a BS punt block in a driving rain....you beat wisky when their QB lost all confidence....thats all the impressive wins you have and they really arent that great.
    And to the retard that tried to talk about the Big 11 being hands down better than the big east..........get real you cant be serious
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    Quote Originally Posted by norseman67:

    Cincy is juggling their QB's too much. And I'm not sure how anyone can rationalize too many coaches being better than Kirk Ferentz.

    Besides, everyone, sans Southwest Miz St, has scored on Cincy.

    Hawks have the ability to shut down and take away.


    Northern Iowa Arkansas State beaten by a combined 4 points Cincy just won't let that happen.  Sorry Hawkeyes you beat Penn State on a BS punt block in a driving rain....you beat wisky when their QB lost all confidence....thats all the impressive wins you have and they really arent that great.
    And to the retard that tried to talk about the Big 11 being hands down better than the big east..........get real you cant be serious
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 3:48 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by norseman67:




    No can do. Cap One Bowl is affiliated with the SEC & Big 10.

    Iowa should beat Michigan St, but losing won't be a surprise as they are -1.5 faves

    Hawks usually play MSU well. I did bet the ML against Iowa last year in this one and they lost 13-16. It wasn't until Iowa beat Penn St last year that they turned the first corner. They seemingly have turned another corner.

    Now we'll see if they can turn the final corner for the home stretch.

    In all likelihood, they get a New Years BCS bowl - maybe the Rose Bowl.

     

    I stand corrected.... 

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    No can do. Cap One Bowl is affiliated with the SEC & Big 10.

    Iowa should beat Michigan St, but losing won't be a surprise as they are -1.5 faves

    Hawks usually play MSU well. I did bet the ML against Iowa last year in this one and they lost 13-16. It wasn't until Iowa beat Penn St last year that they turned the first corner. They seemingly have turned another corner.

    Now we'll see if they can turn the final corner for the home stretch.

    In all likelihood, they get a New Years BCS bowl - maybe the Rose Bowl.

     

    I stand corrected.... 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 5:57 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by jkat15:



    Northern Iowa Arkansas State beaten by a combined 4 points Cincy just won't let that happen.


    This is the shallowness of cappers around here trying to defend their rationale.

    This team beat that team and lost to this team but only beat these other teams by X amount of points.

    If that reasoning translated across the board like that, we'd all be millionaires.



     
    Quote Originally Posted by jkat15:

      Sorry Hawkeyes you beat Penn State on a BS punt block in a driving rain....you beat wisky when their QB lost all confidence....thats all the impressive wins you have and they really arent that great.


    That would be more great than any road wins Cincy has chalked up. Like I said before, look up Wisconsin's home record and get back to us and then try saying that win wasn't so great. If Iowa was going for style points, they would have won by 17.

    The population of Iowa's two road wins equals 200,000.

    And the population for Cincies two biggest road wins?

    That's what I thought.


    Quote Originally Posted by jkat15:

    And to the retard that tried to talk about the Big 11 being hands down better than the big east..........get real you cant be serious


    5th place Wisconsin would be fighting for 1st place in the Big East - nuff said.

    And needless to say, Ohio St and Penn St are a notch up from Pitt and W. Virginia.
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    Northern Iowa Arkansas State beaten by a combined 4 points Cincy just won't let that happen.


    This is the shallowness of cappers around here trying to defend their rationale.

    This team beat that team and lost to this team but only beat these other teams by X amount of points.

    If that reasoning translated across the board like that, we'd all be millionaires.



     
    Quote Originally Posted by jkat15:

      Sorry Hawkeyes you beat Penn State on a BS punt block in a driving rain....you beat wisky when their QB lost all confidence....thats all the impressive wins you have and they really arent that great.


    That would be more great than any road wins Cincy has chalked up. Like I said before, look up Wisconsin's home record and get back to us and then try saying that win wasn't so great. If Iowa was going for style points, they would have won by 17.

    The population of Iowa's two road wins equals 200,000.

    And the population for Cincies two biggest road wins?

    That's what I thought.


    Quote Originally Posted by jkat15:

    And to the retard that tried to talk about the Big 11 being hands down better than the big east..........get real you cant be serious


    5th place Wisconsin would be fighting for 1st place in the Big East - nuff said.

    And needless to say, Ohio St and Penn St are a notch up from Pitt and W. Virginia.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 6:37 PM ET #35

    Well said norseman
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 1:06 AM ET #36

    Cincinnati QB Pike has surgery on left forearm

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    Cincinnati QB Pike has surgery on left forearm

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 2:44 AM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by jkat15:

    question just posed on college football live who would win this game on a neutral field.  kelly just came out in the media and said pike will play against louisville next week so lets assume that injury is a non-factor....who would win?

    IMO this isnt a question Cincinnati would run past Iowa on a neutral field.....Iowa could not cover Gilyard with a double team or any coverage they just don't face the speed that the Cats have in that conference with its own network.  Neutral field decent weather Bearcats 42 Iowa 21

    This is laughable - if Cincy can't score 42 on oregon St, Fresno St (who wisconsin beat), or 0-7 Miami (oh) - good luck getting 10 on Iowa. Who does Cincy play this year other than WV. The S. Florida game was a lot closer than the score was. Hell Cincy gave up 168 yards rushing. Not to mention 290 to Fresno St.

    I don't think Iowa gets out of this buzz saw game with a win - but if they do and run the table there is no WAY Cincy stays above them. If Cincy makes the BCS it could be one of the biggest blowouts in BCS history. OVER RATED!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkat15:

    question just posed on college football live who would win this game on a neutral field.  kelly just came out in the media and said pike will play against louisville next week so lets assume that injury is a non-factor....who would win?

    IMO this isnt a question Cincinnati would run past Iowa on a neutral field.....Iowa could not cover Gilyard with a double team or any coverage they just don't face the speed that the Cats have in that conference with its own network.  Neutral field decent weather Bearcats 42 Iowa 21

    This is laughable - if Cincy can't score 42 on oregon St, Fresno St (who wisconsin beat), or 0-7 Miami (oh) - good luck getting 10 on Iowa. Who does Cincy play this year other than WV. The S. Florida game was a lot closer than the score was. Hell Cincy gave up 168 yards rushing. Not to mention 290 to Fresno St.

    I don't think Iowa gets out of this buzz saw game with a win - but if they do and run the table there is no WAY Cincy stays above them. If Cincy makes the BCS it could be one of the biggest blowouts in BCS history. OVER RATED!!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkat15:



    Northern Iowa Arkansas State beaten by a combined 4 points Cincy just won't let that happen.  Sorry Hawkeyes you beat Penn State on a BS punt block in a driving rain....you beat wisky when their QB lost all confidence....thats all the impressive wins you have and they really arent that great.
    And to the retard that tried to talk about the Big 11 being hands down better than the big east..........get real you cant be serious

    UNI and Arkansas St -  would both beat Rutgers, Miami (oh), and SE Missouri St. Wisconsin did beat Fresno, Penn St would beat S Fla by 3 scores - get a clue!!

    Per the sargarin rankings this is how it stacks up

    Iowa:

    UNI -73, Iowa State-70, Arizona - 14, Penn St - 21, Arkansas St - 105 , Michigan-34, Wisconsin 32, Mich St 42

    Cincy:

    Rutgers - 78, SE Missouri St - 226 (of 246 div 1 teams), Oregon St - 30, Fresno St - 22 (who Wisconsin beat), Miami (oh) - 151, S. Florida - 25, Louisville 94

    GET A CLUE!!

     

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    Northern Iowa Arkansas State beaten by a combined 4 points Cincy just won't let that happen.  Sorry Hawkeyes you beat Penn State on a BS punt block in a driving rain....you beat wisky when their QB lost all confidence....thats all the impressive wins you have and they really arent that great.
    And to the retard that tried to talk about the Big 11 being hands down better than the big east..........get real you cant be serious

    UNI and Arkansas St -  would both beat Rutgers, Miami (oh), and SE Missouri St. Wisconsin did beat Fresno, Penn St would beat S Fla by 3 scores - get a clue!!

    Per the sargarin rankings this is how it stacks up

    Iowa:

    UNI -73, Iowa State-70, Arizona - 14, Penn St - 21, Arkansas St - 105 , Michigan-34, Wisconsin 32, Mich St 42

    Cincy:

    Rutgers - 78, SE Missouri St - 226 (of 246 div 1 teams), Oregon St - 30, Fresno St - 22 (who Wisconsin beat), Miami (oh) - 151, S. Florida - 25, Louisville 94

    GET A CLUE!!

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 10:07 PM ET #39

    haha 9-6 W at MSU and you really think you can hang with cincy? can any iowa fan can try to defend stanzi and that great offense that cant even score a TD on the vaunted MSU defense......by the way 41-10 with our backup QB today no problem
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    haha 9-6 W at MSU and you really think you can hang with cincy? can any iowa fan can try to defend stanzi and that great offense that cant even score a TD on the vaunted MSU defense......by the way 41-10 with our backup QB today no problem
     
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    congrats Iowa you finally scored a touchdown must be a great feeling your the luckiest team in the country 2 points over MSU ND did better than that arkansas state/northern iowa  you really are a joke play a team with speed and youll be dominated
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    congrats Iowa you finally scored a touchdown must be a great feeling your the luckiest team in the country 2 points over MSU ND did better than that arkansas state/northern iowa  you really are a joke play a team with speed and youll be dominated
     
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    Cincy would be lucky to get out with a .500 record with Iowa's road warrior schedule.
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    Besides, if Hawks win out, Cincy fans will be crying, big time
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkat15:

    congrats Iowa you finally scored a touchdown must be a great feeling your the luckiest team in the country 2 points over MSU ND did better than that arkansas state/northern iowa  you really are a joke play a team with speed and youll be dominated

    haha 9-6 W at MSU and you really think you can hang with cincy? can any iowa fan can try to defend stanzi and that great offense that cant even score a TD on the vaunted MSU defense......by the way 41-10 with our backup QB today no problem





    I wouldn't be trying to make any point with your failed grammar.
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    congrats Iowa you finally scored a touchdown must be a great feeling your the luckiest team in the country 2 points over MSU ND did better than that arkansas state/northern iowa  you really are a joke play a team with speed and youll be dominated

    haha 9-6 W at MSU and you really think you can hang with cincy? can any iowa fan can try to defend stanzi and that great offense that cant even score a TD on the vaunted MSU defense......by the way 41-10 with our backup QB today no problem





    I wouldn't be trying to make any point with your failed grammar.
     
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    They could never play play IOWA's schedule


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    They could never play play IOWA's schedule




    Right because nothing makes us Bearcat fans tremble like road trips to Ames, Iowa and East Lansing......O wait we went out and beat Oregon State in their stadium by 10.....that same team just went to USC and lost by 6.....Iowa's schedule has happy valley and ohio stadium and after that is the same Big 10 bullshit........guys the big ten sucks Iowa is lucky not to have 3 losses and today you all will jump Cincy in the BCS standings....all I am saying is if you ever got a chance to play us on a neutral field we wouldnt line up like the spartans run twice up the middle throw a 5 yard out and punt......we throw the football and would do it all day on your slow ass secondary.....and then on D we would load up the box and make Peyton Manning (Rycki Stanzi) beat us in the air with our defensive backs making plays all day...sadly yall just wont go away...you have a nice team but probably should be heading back to the outback bowl to compete with a mid-level SEC school.....asking to be a BCS contender is dangerous because you may get blown out when you play a school with some speed
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    They could never play play IOWA's schedule




    Right because nothing makes us Bearcat fans tremble like road trips to Ames, Iowa and East Lansing......O wait we went out and beat Oregon State in their stadium by 10.....that same team just went to USC and lost by 6.....Iowa's schedule has happy valley and ohio stadium and after that is the same Big 10 bullshit........guys the big ten sucks Iowa is lucky not to have 3 losses and today you all will jump Cincy in the BCS standings....all I am saying is if you ever got a chance to play us on a neutral field we wouldnt line up like the spartans run twice up the middle throw a 5 yard out and punt......we throw the football and would do it all day on your slow ass secondary.....and then on D we would load up the box and make Peyton Manning (Rycki Stanzi) beat us in the air with our defensive backs making plays all day...sadly yall just wont go away...you have a nice team but probably should be heading back to the outback bowl to compete with a mid-level SEC school.....asking to be a BCS contender is dangerous because you may get blown out when you play a school with some speed
     
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    slowest team in the top 25 jumps to 4th in the BCS standings I really want to see Iowa play somebody with decent team speed theyll lose by 3 touches.........Iowa is a decent team but not national championship quality.......half their fans agree with me
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    slowest team in the top 25 jumps to 4th in the BCS standings I really want to see Iowa play somebody with decent team speed theyll lose by 3 touches.........Iowa is a decent team but not national championship quality.......half their fans agree with me
     
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    Here's how stupid, you are ignat.


    1. Iowas opponents have a .633 winning percentage - by far the best percentage of anyone on the top 10.

    2. Iowa moved into the 4th spot in the BCS. 

    3. Meanwhile, you're left rationalizing, err bragging, about beating another home patsy.




    No matter - Pitt  and or W. Virginia will knock Cincy off anyway. 



    Besides, you really don't want the embarrassment of Cincy in a major BCS bowl anyway.       


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    Here's how stupid, you are ignat.


    1. Iowas opponents have a .633 winning percentage - by far the best percentage of anyone on the top 10.

    2. Iowa moved into the 4th spot in the BCS. 

    3. Meanwhile, you're left rationalizing, err bragging, about beating another home patsy.




    No matter - Pitt  and or W. Virginia will knock Cincy off anyway. 



    Besides, you really don't want the embarrassment of Cincy in a major BCS bowl anyway.       


     
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    1. Does that include northern iowa? Please

    2.  Congrats on your BCS ranking until nov 14th.....enjoy beating indiana on a blocked punt/fg or some other new way you find a way to win a game you dont deserve in the 4th quarter

    3. home patsy by 31.....have you been able to play your back-ups in one football game this year?

    WVU against Cincy hahahahaha  maybe pitt but a healthy Pike and the neers go down by 14+......Noel Devine would make your defense look stupid

    do you know what a BCS bowl is? 
    Thats right you haven't played in one

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    2.  Congrats on your BCS ranking until nov 14th.....enjoy beating indiana on a blocked punt/fg or some other new way you find a way to win a game you dont deserve in the 4th quarter

    3. home patsy by 31.....have you been able to play your back-ups in one football game this year?

    WVU against Cincy hahahahaha  maybe pitt but a healthy Pike and the neers go down by 14+......Noel Devine would make your defense look stupid

    do you know what a BCS bowl is? 
    Thats right you haven't played in one

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkat15:

    1. Does that include northern iowa? Please

    Yes it does. Try doing some basic research and get back to us. Then maybe you'll try and quit selling your brand of stupid.


    2.  Congrats on your BCS ranking until nov 14th.....enjoy beating indiana on a blocked punt/fg or some other new way you find a way to win a game you dont deserve in the 4th quarter

    Funny how many times we keep winning in the 4th despite not deserving it.



    3. home patsy by 31.....have you been able to play your back-ups in one football game this year?

    Our tough schedule won't allow for it. Like I said, Iowa's road schedule would have knocked Cincy out of the top 25.



    WVU against Cincy hahahahaha  maybe pitt but a healthy Pike and the neers go down by 14+......

    Hawks have at least 3 players on defense that will be playing on Sundays. And Cincy?

    That's what I thought.



    do you know what a BCS bowl is? 
    Thats right you haven't played in one

    You really don't wanna go there, do you?





    There's a reason why we leapfrogged Cincy - deal with it.
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    1. Does that include northern iowa? Please

    Yes it does. Try doing some basic research and get back to us. Then maybe you'll try and quit selling your brand of stupid.


    2.  Congrats on your BCS ranking until nov 14th.....enjoy beating indiana on a blocked punt/fg or some other new way you find a way to win a game you dont deserve in the 4th quarter

    Funny how many times we keep winning in the 4th despite not deserving it.



    3. home patsy by 31.....have you been able to play your back-ups in one football game this year?

    Our tough schedule won't allow for it. Like I said, Iowa's road schedule would have knocked Cincy out of the top 25.



    WVU against Cincy hahahahaha  maybe pitt but a healthy Pike and the neers go down by 14+......

    Hawks have at least 3 players on defense that will be playing on Sundays. And Cincy?

    That's what I thought.



    do you know what a BCS bowl is? 
    Thats right you haven't played in one

    You really don't wanna go there, do you?





    There's a reason why we leapfrogged Cincy - deal with it.
     
     
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    1. Does that include northern iowa? Please

    As opposed to the historic powers like Youngstown St, Buffalo and Navy?


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    As opposed to the historic powers like Youngstown St, Buffalo and Navy?


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