Was Michigan much stronger, faster, and smarter than IU last year? If I remember correctly, the officiating is the only reason Michigan was able to win v.s. the Hoosiers in the Big House. IU moved the ball at will last year v.s. U of M and the Hoosiers return virtually everyone on offense. Meanwhile, Michigan lost Graham, Warren, and Woolfolk from last years defense (or lackthereof). I love the 11.5 I'm getting with the "weaker, slower, and dumber" team.
surely you realize 2009 Michigan is much different than 2010 Michigan. Defense has grown up a little(a lot more to do) and the offensive players seem to have finally 'got it'. Indiana has always been a bottom tiered big 10 school and the players they suit up shows it every year. what of indiana's defense? you surely cant see them slowing down Shoelace
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Quote Originally Posted by bense197969:
Was Michigan much stronger, faster, and smarter than IU last year? If I remember correctly, the officiating is the only reason Michigan was able to win v.s. the Hoosiers in the Big House. IU moved the ball at will last year v.s. U of M and the Hoosiers return virtually everyone on offense. Meanwhile, Michigan lost Graham, Warren, and Woolfolk from last years defense (or lackthereof). I love the 11.5 I'm getting with the "weaker, slower, and dumber" team.
surely you realize 2009 Michigan is much different than 2010 Michigan. Defense has grown up a little(a lot more to do) and the offensive players seem to have finally 'got it'. Indiana has always been a bottom tiered big 10 school and the players they suit up shows it every year. what of indiana's defense? you surely cant see them slowing down Shoelace
surely you realize 2009 Michigan is much different than 2010 Michigan. Defense has grown up a little(a lot more to do) and the offensive players seem to have finally 'got it'. Indiana has always been a bottom tiered big 10 school and the players they suit up shows it every year. what of indiana's defense? you surely cant see them slowing down Shoelace
The UM defense is actually worse, statistically, this year than last year..
Also, in comparing UM's Offense this year to last year..
In the non-conference games in 2009.. UM averaged: 511 total yards 319 rushing 193 passing 41.8 ppg
in 2010: 562 total yards 319 rushing 231 passing 41.2 ppg
So, while the UM passing game has seen some improvement, the rush game is roughly the same and they are averaging the same amount of pts..
Not sure why I'm arguing with a clear homer, but still.. UM's D is just awful.. Chappelle will throw for over 300 easily..
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Quote Originally Posted by DNorman702:
surely you realize 2009 Michigan is much different than 2010 Michigan. Defense has grown up a little(a lot more to do) and the offensive players seem to have finally 'got it'. Indiana has always been a bottom tiered big 10 school and the players they suit up shows it every year. what of indiana's defense? you surely cant see them slowing down Shoelace
The UM defense is actually worse, statistically, this year than last year..
Also, in comparing UM's Offense this year to last year..
In the non-conference games in 2009.. UM averaged: 511 total yards 319 rushing 193 passing 41.8 ppg
in 2010: 562 total yards 319 rushing 231 passing 41.2 ppg
So, while the UM passing game has seen some improvement, the rush game is roughly the same and they are averaging the same amount of pts..
Not sure why I'm arguing with a clear homer, but still.. UM's D is just awful.. Chappelle will throw for over 300 easily..
Ok but I mean for an overall win.... do you really believe that Indiana will be able to beat Michigan????
My teaser makes them a str8 win pick and I believe that Michigan cannot look past Indiana and will not. Last year they started 4-0 and got beat in the start of Big 10 action. This year I believe will not happen.
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Ok but I mean for an overall win.... do you really believe that Indiana will be able to beat Michigan????
My teaser makes them a str8 win pick and I believe that Michigan cannot look past Indiana and will not. Last year they started 4-0 and got beat in the start of Big 10 action. This year I believe will not happen.
Actually Michigan started Big Ten action last year with a win over Indiana to make it 4-0 and then lost to MSU.... so I was wrong but still Rich Rod will not over look this team because they must keep winning to keep his job.
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Actually Michigan started Big Ten action last year with a win over Indiana to make it 4-0 and then lost to MSU.... so I was wrong but still Rich Rod will not over look this team because they must keep winning to keep his job.
Actually Michigan started Big Ten action last year with a win over Indiana to make it 4-0 and then lost to MSU.... so I was wrong but still Rich Rod will not over look this team because they must keep winning to keep his job.
To be fair, I think UM easily looks past this game to next week when they host Sparty.. UM hasn't lost 3 times in a row to MSU in quite some time.. all the UM alum and fans I've spoken with (went to MSU)- say they can't wait to kick our butts..
Indiana should have won LY on the road.. UM and RR are awful on the road.. not to mention line has dropped 5points in 2 days..
Feel free to play UM, but I'm not sure how you can justify that to yourself, esp. laying double digits with one of its biggest rivals on deck
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Quote Originally Posted by wilk704:
Actually Michigan started Big Ten action last year with a win over Indiana to make it 4-0 and then lost to MSU.... so I was wrong but still Rich Rod will not over look this team because they must keep winning to keep his job.
To be fair, I think UM easily looks past this game to next week when they host Sparty.. UM hasn't lost 3 times in a row to MSU in quite some time.. all the UM alum and fans I've spoken with (went to MSU)- say they can't wait to kick our butts..
Indiana should have won LY on the road.. UM and RR are awful on the road.. not to mention line has dropped 5points in 2 days..
Feel free to play UM, but I'm not sure how you can justify that to yourself, esp. laying double digits with one of its biggest rivals on deck
surely you realize 2009 Michigan is much different than 2010 Michigan. Defense has grown up a little(a lot more to do) and the offensive players seem to have finally 'got it'. Indiana has always been a bottom tiered big 10 school and the players they suit up shows it every year. what of indiana's defense? you surely cant see them slowing down Shoelace
Last year v.s. IU, "Shoelace" ran 11 times for 24 yards. I know that was last year, but at least this IU defense is somewhat similar with what they'll be seeing Saturday. I'm not saying IU shuts them down, not saying that at all.
I bet this game because:
IU can score on offense and Chapell should shread that secondary.
RichRod has been awful in the Big Ten.
RichRod has been awful on the road.
Michigan could very well be looking ahead to MSU.
IU almost won SU last year as a 18-point 'dog in AA.
IU outgained Michigan by almost 100 yards last season.
Oh yeah, and I'm getting 11.5 points
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Quote Originally Posted by DNorman702:
surely you realize 2009 Michigan is much different than 2010 Michigan. Defense has grown up a little(a lot more to do) and the offensive players seem to have finally 'got it'. Indiana has always been a bottom tiered big 10 school and the players they suit up shows it every year. what of indiana's defense? you surely cant see them slowing down Shoelace
Last year v.s. IU, "Shoelace" ran 11 times for 24 yards. I know that was last year, but at least this IU defense is somewhat similar with what they'll be seeing Saturday. I'm not saying IU shuts them down, not saying that at all.
I bet this game because:
IU can score on offense and Chapell should shread that secondary.
RichRod has been awful in the Big Ten.
RichRod has been awful on the road.
Michigan could very well be looking ahead to MSU.
IU almost won SU last year as a 18-point 'dog in AA.
IU outgained Michigan by almost 100 yards last season.
Dnorman you are such a homer. have fun betting on michigan this wknd. you clearly know nothing about this team and are on the shoelace bandwagon. fact is shoelace has done good against shitty opponents. The irish suck this year they are not good. Indiana is not bad and the secondary at michigan is horrible. They are not gonna be able to stack the box to block the run because if they do that chappel is gonna have a field day on those weak corners. Also i would say that many plays on indiana are good enough to be on michigan they didnt come here for various reasons like many players the past few years. I mean why on earth would you wanna play on arguably one of the shittiest teams in the big ten right now?
You can make whatever arguments you want about who played who but that doesnt matter. what matters is the matchups this wknd. Michigan is coming up short on these matchups and i think they can win but they do not have a good shot at winning by more then a FG. in fact since the odds are so juicy im backing indiana ML to pull off an upset and shutup the shoelace is awesome and espn folks.
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Dnorman you are such a homer. have fun betting on michigan this wknd. you clearly know nothing about this team and are on the shoelace bandwagon. fact is shoelace has done good against shitty opponents. The irish suck this year they are not good. Indiana is not bad and the secondary at michigan is horrible. They are not gonna be able to stack the box to block the run because if they do that chappel is gonna have a field day on those weak corners. Also i would say that many plays on indiana are good enough to be on michigan they didnt come here for various reasons like many players the past few years. I mean why on earth would you wanna play on arguably one of the shittiest teams in the big ten right now?
You can make whatever arguments you want about who played who but that doesnt matter. what matters is the matchups this wknd. Michigan is coming up short on these matchups and i think they can win but they do not have a good shot at winning by more then a FG. in fact since the odds are so juicy im backing indiana ML to pull off an upset and shutup the shoelace is awesome and espn folks.
Wilk you are paying 10 point teaser juice on a team that hasnt shown anything why do you think this is smart?
I mean i'm actually from michigan and i was watching these games on ABC. All the teams michigan has faced they havent looked strong against. in highlights they looked like world beaters but in the grand scheme receivers were left wide open for big gains numerous times. The running game aganst michigan wasn't all that bad considering the fact they didnt face one great running back id be worried about their upcoming schedule.
Why are you so quick to lay chalk on a road team that is greatly overrated and unproven??
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Wilk you are paying 10 point teaser juice on a team that hasnt shown anything why do you think this is smart?
I mean i'm actually from michigan and i was watching these games on ABC. All the teams michigan has faced they havent looked strong against. in highlights they looked like world beaters but in the grand scheme receivers were left wide open for big gains numerous times. The running game aganst michigan wasn't all that bad considering the fact they didnt face one great running back id be worried about their upcoming schedule.
Why are you so quick to lay chalk on a road team that is greatly overrated and unproven??
Flying squrrel.... that is 6 more than the teams Indiana have played..... where do you people come from?????
I guess you missed my point.
Having 6 wins against the dreck of college football does not mean much IMHO. But if it makes you feel better about 'your' team, who am I to rain on your parade.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
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Quote Originally Posted by wilk704:
Flying squrrel.... that is 6 more than the teams Indiana have played..... where do you people come from?????
I guess you missed my point.
Having 6 wins against the dreck of college football does not mean much IMHO. But if it makes you feel better about 'your' team, who am I to rain on your parade.
Because it is a straight pick and if I had to pick Michigan vs Indiana then I pick Michigan..... its as easy as that.... Indiana's rush D is worse than Michigan's pass defense..... not to mention the fact that Rich Rod must win this game because if he does not and then loses to MSU, he absolutely must win vs OSU or he is gone!!!!! I am just stating the facts
Saturday night fever..... seriously you have to be kidding me?!?!?!?!?!
GT has dogged on the road against a really bad Kanas team and barely beat a depleted UNC team.... so sorry but that pick is worse than a Michigan pick game
FSU is playin a very opportunistic Virginia team which played well going across the country vs USC earlier this year and ACC teams play much better at home than on the road
Iowa is not a lock but a good pick
Minny can easily get beat by 17.... 2 Persa runs or throws and a Demos FG who is a very good kicker can easily beat that..... Northwestern is alot better than people put them...
Florida has not found themselves but I do like the +18.5..... but one big quarter can really make this game ugly..... the Gators are not the past 4 season Gators......
It is very hard to tell me that my 3 team teaser is bad when you have 5 teams..... gotta give me 3 teams buddy not 5!!!!!
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Because it is a straight pick and if I had to pick Michigan vs Indiana then I pick Michigan..... its as easy as that.... Indiana's rush D is worse than Michigan's pass defense..... not to mention the fact that Rich Rod must win this game because if he does not and then loses to MSU, he absolutely must win vs OSU or he is gone!!!!! I am just stating the facts
Saturday night fever..... seriously you have to be kidding me?!?!?!?!?!
GT has dogged on the road against a really bad Kanas team and barely beat a depleted UNC team.... so sorry but that pick is worse than a Michigan pick game
FSU is playin a very opportunistic Virginia team which played well going across the country vs USC earlier this year and ACC teams play much better at home than on the road
Iowa is not a lock but a good pick
Minny can easily get beat by 17.... 2 Persa runs or throws and a Demos FG who is a very good kicker can easily beat that..... Northwestern is alot better than people put them...
Florida has not found themselves but I do like the +18.5..... but one big quarter can really make this game ugly..... the Gators are not the past 4 season Gators......
It is very hard to tell me that my 3 team teaser is bad when you have 5 teams..... gotta give me 3 teams buddy not 5!!!!!
but just keep hatin but are not coming up with any facts or stats....
Indiana's D cannot contain Michigan's O but Michigan's D can contain Indiana's O...... this might be an over but i am guessing 35-24. Michigan
This is based on what?
LY at home, Indiana had 467 total yards, 200 rush yards (averaged 6.0 yards per carry), Chappelle went 21/37 for 270 and put up 33 points.. UM is ranked 100th or below is almost every defense category this year.. care to explain how UM'd D will stop Indiana's O?
And if you guessed that as a final score- you'd be Under by a TD..
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Quote Originally Posted by wilk704:
lol eliminator
but just keep hatin but are not coming up with any facts or stats....
Indiana's D cannot contain Michigan's O but Michigan's D can contain Indiana's O...... this might be an over but i am guessing 35-24. Michigan
This is based on what?
LY at home, Indiana had 467 total yards, 200 rush yards (averaged 6.0 yards per carry), Chappelle went 21/37 for 270 and put up 33 points.. UM is ranked 100th or below is almost every defense category this year.. care to explain how UM'd D will stop Indiana's O?
And if you guessed that as a final score- you'd be Under by a TD..
Buddy I am a Miami fan..... you people think you know everything but you come up with no facts or stats just bullshit lines...... Indiana has played the druck of the NCAA world and their oppornents have not beaten anyone compared to the teams Michigan have played..... you people are freakin morons
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Buddy I am a Miami fan..... you people think you know everything but you come up with no facts or stats just bullshit lines...... Indiana has played the druck of the NCAA world and their oppornents have not beaten anyone compared to the teams Michigan have played..... you people are freakin morons
dude if you think michigan is gonna win the battle in the trenches you need to do a lot more research. This isnt even worth my time i got beer to drink and a tigers team to root for. Bet michigan tell all your friends to bet michigan tell people michigan is the lock of the year. It only makes my play on indiana better because i\ll get a better line or more value. ML for indy is only 320, i'd love some more value there. But i'll easily take Indy to hold this game to within a touchdown at 5% juice.
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dude if you think michigan is gonna win the battle in the trenches you need to do a lot more research. This isnt even worth my time i got beer to drink and a tigers team to root for. Bet michigan tell all your friends to bet michigan tell people michigan is the lock of the year. It only makes my play on indiana better because i\ll get a better line or more value. ML for indy is only 320, i'd love some more value there. But i'll easily take Indy to hold this game to within a touchdown at 5% juice.
I said it might be an over but this is what I guess the score to be.... so meaning it might be an over bug I believe this is the score at the end of the game.... please tell me what u had this weekend and tell me ur winnings.... i had 4 wins and 1 loss.... look up my posts you idiots....
won $900 and only had to bet $300 to get it..... but you people are so Godly.... douchebags
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I said it might be an over but this is what I guess the score to be.... so meaning it might be an over bug I believe this is the score at the end of the game.... please tell me what u had this weekend and tell me ur winnings.... i had 4 wins and 1 loss.... look up my posts you idiots....
won $900 and only had to bet $300 to get it..... but you people are so Godly.... douchebags
Buddy I am a Miami fan..... you people think you know everything but you come up with no facts or stats just bullshit lines...... Indiana has played the druck of the NCAA world and their oppornents have not beaten anyone compared to the teams Michigan have played..... you people are freakin morons
Look at the post above.. how are those not stats or facts?
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Quote Originally Posted by wilk704:
Buddy I am a Miami fan..... you people think you know everything but you come up with no facts or stats just bullshit lines...... Indiana has played the druck of the NCAA world and their oppornents have not beaten anyone compared to the teams Michigan have played..... you people are freakin morons
Look at the post above.. how are those not stats or facts?
wilk you dont know shit about michigan football quit listening to espn analysts they dont know shit about rich rods situation. He does not have to beat OSU to keep his job thats an unrealistic goal. The team just has to show an improvement over last year and that things are headed in the right direction. Straight from the athletic directors mouth before the season started.
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wilk you dont know shit about michigan football quit listening to espn analysts they dont know shit about rich rods situation. He does not have to beat OSU to keep his job thats an unrealistic goal. The team just has to show an improvement over last year and that things are headed in the right direction. Straight from the athletic directors mouth before the season started.
lol really.... well str8 from Mike Singletaries mouth on Sunday..... the OC will stay the OC for the rest of the year..... what happens monday.... he is fired...... no you dont know shit about football itself
the guy has to win this game..... you have to stay in Michigan and enjoy the nations worse economy.... keep delievering those pizzas bud
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lol really.... well str8 from Mike Singletaries mouth on Sunday..... the OC will stay the OC for the rest of the year..... what happens monday.... he is fired...... no you dont know shit about football itself
the guy has to win this game..... you have to stay in Michigan and enjoy the nations worse economy.... keep delievering those pizzas bud
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